My suggestion for the new Menu button

My suggestion for the new Menu button

I just installed Opera 10.60 (3400) and I want to give a little feedback for the new approach to displaying the Menu button. I think it's suitable for new users, but I liked it better in the previous versions. So my suggestion is to leave it like it is in the default installation, but to make it prone to Toolbar Style (Images only, Text only, Images and text below [..]), thus making the mini toolbar subject to change like, for example, the address bar. I already saw people discussing this, so here's a topic in the right place.

+1 I hide that Menu button though...

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+1 for customisation^^

At least an option to hide the text 'Menu' would be a good compromise.

+1 for change it from Opera itself.

But you can hide the "Menu" text for yourself.
Open your Opera application folder and /locale/en/en.lng file (or your language specific file).
Search for this number: 606160820
Change the text next to it from "Menu" to simply ""
Save it, restart Opera. (Alternatively you can save the .lng file to a new file, then you must select this new file in the Preferences / General / Language section)

The new menu button in 10.6 Alpha builds is a step backward in my opinion. I also hate how the button doesn't sit directly beside and flush with the tabs as it did in 10.5 stable. I don't understand who thought it would be a good idea to make it slightly above the tabs, leaving all that empty space in the process.

Originally posted by Emoryy:

Open your Opera application folder and /locale/en/en.lng file

Can't open it. What app should open it?

Originally posted by pieRr0Ur:

(...) What app should open it?

Any plain text editor which can save files with UTF-8 encoding - e.g. Windows' Notepad.

Originally posted by Saskatchewan:

Any plain text editor which can save files with UTF-8 encoding - e.g. Windows' Notepad.

Oh right thanks.

Anyways I changed it to "pera"

Originally posted by Emoryy:

But you can hide the "Menu" text for yourself.
Open your Opera application folder and /locale/en/en.lng file (or your language specific file).
Search for this number: 606160820
Change the text next to it from "Menu" to simply ""
Save it, restart Opera. (Alternatively you can save the .lng file to a new file, then you must select this new file in the Preferences / General / Language section)

Do you know what's it on linux?

"old" (10.5) button was better, as it was besides the tabs (like it still is in fullscreen). current(10.60) button just doesn't feel right for me, esp as it takes away the vertical size gain that the "old" button brought.

With the latest snapshot it's much easier now! Just change the style on the appearance to Images Only!

Originally posted by D1sasterp1ece:

I just installed Opera 10.60 (3400) and I want to give a little feedback for the new approach to displaying the Menu button. I think it's suitable for new users, but I liked it better in the previous versions. So my suggestion is to leave it like it is in the default installation, but to make it prone to Toolbar Style (Images only, Text only, Images and text below [..]), thus making the mini toolbar subject to change like, for example, the address bar. I already saw people discussing this, so here's a topic in the right place.

100% agree. +1

Originally posted by e-berlin:

100% agree. +1

Did you read the last post in this topic (the one which is now above yours), before answering?

Originally posted by pieRr0Ur:

With the latest snapshot it's much easier now! Just change the style on the appearance to Images Only!

i wonder can opera add the ability to "text only"..same as "images only" but without that "O" icon there when changing to "text only"

that would be cool

Originally posted by Saskatchewan:

Originally posted by e-berlin:

100% agree. +1

Did you read the last post in this topic (the one which is now above yours), before answering?

Originally posted by pieRr0Ur:

With the latest snapshot it's much easier now! Just change the style on the appearance to Images Only!

Oh, thanks, it works. Sorry.

But I'm a user who got used to it and liked to live with it! On both Windows and *nix!

Look at this guy's comment: http://my.opera.com/portalnews/blog/2010/06/16/speed-and-good-looks-try-the-opera-10-60-beta-now?cid=31529882#comment31529882

Hope the comment helps you

Originally posted by pieRr0Ur:

But I'm a user who got used to it and liked to live with it! On both Windows and *nix!

I will not like to live with it however, because of the way my Opera looks now:

So that's why I don't want the OMenu button to be too wide.

Originally posted by Saskatchewan:

Originally posted by pieRr0Ur:

But I'm a user who got used to it and liked to live with it! On both Windows and *nix!

I will not like to live with it however, because of the way my Opera looks now:

So that's why I don't want the OMenu button to be too wide.

Oh, right, the additional "Menu" won't be nice if added according to how your browser looks now.

oh my g*d - it would make the adress-bar like 20 pixels narrower! how are you supposed to use it ?
really not argument - especially for you - those who are having tabs "on top" are loosing valuabel space - you dont^^

Originally posted by bleicher:

oh my g*d - it would make the adress-bar like 20 pixels narrower! how are you supposed to use it ?
really not argument - especially for you - those who are having tabs "on top" are loosing valuabel space - you dont^^

No - it would make a place for displaying a page sth like 30 pixels narrower! Note that Previous, Next, Stop/Refresh, Trash buttons are NOT on the Address bar.


With "Menu" text: http://files.myopera.com/Saskatchewan/opera/TabBarOMenu10.60.png
Without "Menu" text: http://files.myopera.com/Saskatchewan/opera/TabBarOMenu.png

For ages I have been using a custom button which displayed menu bar and it worked and still work great for me. In addition it was much smaller then the new “O” button. All I ask is for this “thing” to respect “Remove from toolbar”. You cannot even remove it editing the toolbar INI file -- it always comes back. Make the “O” button a button like any other not some “magical” thing that respects no customisation... All buttons are equal but some are more equal then the others?

And yes, it's even worse when tabs are on top.

Originally posted by mina86:

(...) All I ask is for this “thing” to respect “Remove from toolbar” (...) Make the “O” button a button like any other not some “magical” thing that respects no customisation... (...)

That would be nice. Just And let us turn off the Menu Bar like any other toolbar in Appearance dialog.

Originally posted by Saskatchewan:

Just let us turn off the Menu Bar like any other toolbar in Appearance dialog.

ehm - isnt it already?
or do you mean the menu-button?

Originally posted by bleicher:

ehm - isnt it already?

The menu toolbar is not listed on the appearance toolbars dialogue. I think it would be a useful addition.

Originally posted by bleicher:

Originally posted by Saskatchewan:

Just let us turn off the Menu Bar like any other toolbar in Appearance dialog.

ehm - isnt it already?
or do you mean the menu-button?

Like Pesala said - if menu toolbar was listed on the Appearance dialog it would not bring so much confusion for new users (I think). The Menu Button, on the other hand, should behave like any other button.