pls Ctrl-click to open a new page / tab

pls Ctrl-click to open a new page / tab

I'm sure there must be a reason why you guys are not providing this as an option, but for the life of me i cannot work it out. I love Opera, i love the speed, the styling, and the innovations, but why do u insist on forcing shift-click for new page/tab.

People switching from IE/FF are immediately turned off by this, it's a common comment that they want to use opera, but can't/don't want to get used to shift-click.

C'mon... you guys are at the cutting edge (i loved the chrome speed parody by the way, that was so classic on many levels), but seriously, wtf is going on with no option for ctrl-click?

Can you just do it, make it a simple check box, and (really) just make it the a default.

Normally ctrl and ctrl+shift . . + click are derived from Safari.

On Opera 10.6 only ctrl+shift+click on linux works, and in Opens the link in a background tab.

On Unix (i386)

Or even middle click (in menues)? Like any other Browser does?

Right-Click; Open in New Tab (or Window)

Works like a charm.

Originally posted by yesboss:

i loved the chrome speed parody by the way

For those who haven't seen it:

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Originally posted by yesboss:

and (really) just make it the a default.

Users migrating from other browsers should adjust their habits, not expect long-term Opera users to adjust their's.

The easiest method by some distance is to use a mouse gesture — no need to touch the keyboard to open links in the background (or a new active tab if that's what you prefer).

GestureDown = Open link in background page | New page

Over a link it will open it in the background — elsewhere it will just open a new speed dial tab. The default gesture is:

GestureDown = Open link in new page | New page

Which, I think, does exactly what you want without even touching the keyboard.

No, I think the point is to make everyone happy, not just the people who want to be hipster-like with their "I've been using Opera longer than you" attitudes.

I love Opera, but I can't stand this ridiculous nonsense. Everything else is just like every other browser (or at least changeable to match other browsers); why can't this one be the same/changeable too?

Shift key resembles something that goes up (new tab is created in top of the previous tab).
Ctrl resembles controlling. Ctrl should be used for controlling actions, not performing them.

Correct behavior based on the keys definitions I found in Wikipedia (interpreted by me):
Shift + click: Shift modifies the action of the click command.
Ctrl + Shift + click: Shift modifies the action of the click command, Ctrl modifies the operation of Shift by controlling it to make the tab to open in the background.

And look the order the keys are wrote when referring to a command: Ctrl + Shift + another key. Using Ctrl + click definitely is skipping a function that should be performed by Shift initially.

My conclusion is that all the the other browsers are wrong on the usability of Ctrl + click to open a link in a new tab.

Originally posted by pieRr0Ur:

On Opera 10.6 only ctrl+shift+click on linux works, and in Opens the link in a background tab.

It must be a bug, in 10.6 final version Shift + click will work.

Originally posted by m1ss1ontomars2k4:

No, I think the point is to make everyone happy

The request was to make it the default, not to provide an option to change it. Changing the default would obviously make existing long-term Opera users unhappy.

i'm new to opera and so far the lack of a ctrl + click Option is driving me crazy...because every now and again when im busy i ctrl + click and it means i now have to go back and then do the ctrl +shift +click or the right click option. its a bother so maybe for us newcomers there can be an option somewhere to enable this.

Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by majimus:

it means i now have to go back and then do the ctrl +shift +click or the right click option

There is no need to go back at all, just switch to the previous tab or minimise the active tab by clicking on it.

See Preferences, Tabs, and disable "Reuse current tab," and Additional tab options "Click on tabs to minimise."

Originally posted by majimus:

i'm new to opera and so far the lack of a ctrl + click Option is driving me crazy...

It seems that you'll need to get used to it. I got used to it when I started using Opera.
As I explained above the correct behavior to the browser is to open a tab in the background when you Ctrl + Shift + click, not Ctrl + click.

Have you ever thought in middle-clicking the link or button you want to open in a new tab in the background or using a mouse gesture for it?

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

Shift key resembles something that goes up (new tab is created in top of the previous tab).
Ctrl resembles controlling. Ctrl should be used for controlling actions, not performing them.

They are just keys. Like all others. They should be used in whatever way user wants.

Do you imply that I should use a “Win key” for starting Windows form my Linux system?

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

My conclusion is that all the the other browsers are wrong on the usability of Ctrl + click to open a link in a new tab.

Because it's always better to press two modifier keys rather then on, right?

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

It seems that you'll need to get used to it. I got used to it when I started using Opera.

Opera should get used to me not the other way around.

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

As I explained above the correct behavior to the browser is to open a tab in the background when you Ctrl + Shift + click, not Ctrl + click.

There's no such thing as correct behaviour as far as users preferences goes.

Having said that, I'm using middle click anyway so I don't really care. I only noticed that under Windows MMC invokes this bizarre scrolling. Still, it's a pity that Opera does not let user customise what's going to happen when clicking with modifiers. Why not add those settings to mouse set-up anyway?

Originally posted by mina86:

Because it's always better to press two modifier keys rather then on, right?

You already have Shift + click as the single modifier key command, Ctrl + click would be wrong because the two commands (open in new tab / in background) are related.
Common, don't you think Opera has a good reason to do so? Don't you think they studied the human–computer interaction thing?

Originally posted by mina86:

it's a pity that Opera does not let user customise what's going to happen when clicking with modifiers

So..., other web browsers let user customize it?

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Originally posted by rafaelluik:

You already have Shift + click as the single modifier key command, Ctrl + click would be wrong because the two commands (open in new tab / in background) are related.

Sorry, but this doesn't make sense to me.

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

Common, don't you think Opera has a good reason to do so? Don't you think they studied the human–computer interaction thing?

No. And besides it's irrelevant. What's best for most is not necessary best for someone in particular. Again, that's the point of customisation.

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

So..., other web browsers let user customize it?

I'm sure that if you really want you can set it in Firefox. And besides, it's irrelevant. I don't care about other browsers that I don't use. I care about Opera which I would like to customise the way I want.

Good reply!
I think you are right, you should be able to customize it (I never said you shouldn't be).

I just want to back up the request, to be able to configure "open in background tab" without SHIFT.
I'm a web designer and while testing I'm switching between browsers all the time. I usually CTRL-click all the important links one ofter the other, then check each tab. It's *very* annoying that Opera is the only one that requires the SHIFT key. If I was just a normal user, always browsing with Opera, it wouldn't be a problem, I'd adjust. But for my daily work it's just an inconvenience I don't always remember and that repeatedly stops my work-flow.
I see absolutely no reason why almost everything in Opera is configurable but not this option. And neither right-click nor mouse-gesture are as speedy as pressing CTRL with my left pinky, which is always resting on the keyboard anyway. (BTW, SHIFT+CTRL is really not comfortable to press at once). And my middle mouse-button is configured for task-switching system-wide. As said above by someone else, modern software should be configurable to the user's needs and not enforce the developer's philosophy. It seems a bit stubborn to me, that Opera insists on this key scheme (how much market share?) when really EVERY other browser does it the other way.

That out of the way: Opera 10.50/10.60 is a fantastic browser I recommend to everybody. Great, great work in the last year!

+1

Please, give the users the possibility to customize the short-cuts.

1) You can use Middle click to "open links in background tab"
2) Ctrl-click is better than Ctrl+Shift+Click
3) Ctrl+click works in IE, FF, Safari and Chrome already.

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Opera's Parody

Hilarious.

Slightly related question: how do people with laptops minimise tabs?

Originally posted by davegould:

how do people with laptops minimise tabs?

like anybody else, by checking "click on tab to minimize" in "Additional Tab Options" and then clicking on them

Ah thanks, been using the gestures for it since gestures came out.

As a matter of fact, Opera currently doesn't not use Ctrl+click in any way. And there's no way to customize it's behavior. It is neither keyboard shortcut (it includes mouse click) nor mouse gesture. There's to ways to open new background tab by (almost) simple clicking: click it with middle button and shift+ctrl+click. I see no harm to make ctrl+click do the same. Anyway, it is not bound to anything.
Besides, FF, Chrome and IE open new background tab by ctrl+click. I am all for ctrl+click open new background tab.

Originally posted by drawsteel:

Anyway, it is not bound to anything.

It is bound to save image. Ctrl Click on an image.