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5. June 2010, 12:54:38

handsomekhan

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do u believe on luck?

hi.... its very important question....

5. June 2010, 12:57:04

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I believe one can be lucky but not that "Luck" happens of its own volition.
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5. June 2010, 12:58:40

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I don't think being lucky is merely by chance, there some planning involved.
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5. June 2010, 13:04:49

handsomekhan

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its gud.... i think we have to explain it deeply.... luck is so important for anyone....

5. June 2010, 13:20:53

handsomekhan

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can u believe that the girl u love very much will be ur wife.... its luck

5. June 2010, 13:48:56

Hadilfrancisco

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yes i do believe on it... But there's alot of thing's that you can get by luck,. You must to do something to achieve it without saying its luck...
Being Lonely..

5. June 2010, 18:31:13

parkerjm

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Originally posted by jax:

I don't think being lucky is merely by chance, there some planning involved.

Sometimes planning was involved, and sometimes you are born with a rich grandfather who has nothing to do with you but dies when you are 17 and leaves you 100,000 dollars. Happened to my friend. I consider that pretty lucky! Of course, he grew up without knowing his grandfather, but my grandfather died when I was 1, so I had no grandfather and no 100,000 dollars. I guess that makes me unlucky.

Of course, I don't really believe in "luck". There are probabilities in the world, but being in one group or the other isn't "lucky", it just is.
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5. June 2010, 19:23:47

ensbb3

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Luck is just the term used when something good happens to you by chance. Situations of your own creation can lead to the probability that something good will happen to you. If it does you are lucky if not, you are not lucky. You can get good at being lucky by seeing the odds are stacked in your favor. And yes, “dumb luck” happens too. But just because your aren’t aware you’ve provided yourself a lucky situation doesn’t mean you had nothing to do with setting up the probability the situation would turn out lucky for you. Sometimes showing up (or not) is all you had to do.

5. June 2010, 20:19:59

Thabotizz

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there is also bad luck! My car broke down, I hitch hiked to Midrand only to be mugged. The next day I bet the lottery and never won!
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5. June 2010, 20:38:36

ensbb3

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SO poor maintenance on your car lead to you traveling in an unsafe way through a unsafe area where bad things can and did happen... and for some reason lead you to play a game designed for you to lose. Bad luck = bad decisions? Don't think me heartless though i hate that happened to you! eek
I just don't believe the outcome of what will happen to me is always out of my own hands.

5. June 2010, 22:19:44

Macallan

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Originally posted by ensbb3:

Luck is just the term used when something good happens to you by chance.


And in most cases 'chance' isn't really random but you either don't know all the parameters or there are too many of them. Usually both.
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5. June 2010, 22:34:18

thedawgfan

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The Great and Infallible FSM in the sky grants me "luck" periodically.
Unfortunately, when I went to the casinos last Sunday, He chose not to grant it to me. irked
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5. June 2010, 22:36:10

Macallan

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Originally posted by thedawgfan:

The Great and Infallible FSM in the sky grants me "luck" periodically.
Unfortunately, when I went to the casinos last Sunday, He chose not to grant it to me. irked


He granted you the luck of not getting mugged on the way right
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5. June 2010, 22:43:45

thedawgfan

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Originally posted by Macallan:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

The Great and Infallible FSM in the sky grants me "luck" periodically.
Unfortunately, when I went to the casinos last Sunday, He chose not to grant it to me. irked


He granted you the luck of not getting mugged on the way right


Well it is Tunica, MS. Where would I get mugged, in the cotton fields?
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5. June 2010, 22:46:44

ensbb3

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Originally posted by Macallan:

Originally posted by ensbb3:

Luck is just the term used when something good happens to you by chance.


And in most cases 'chance' isn't really random but you either don't know all the parameters or there are too many of them. Usually both.



indeed. beer

Originally posted by Macallan:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

The Great and Infallible FSM in the sky grants me "luck" periodically.
Unfortunately, when I went to the casinos last Sunday, He chose not to grant it to me. irked


He granted you the luck of not getting mugged on the way right



Maybe then it was luck... had you won someone would of had a reason to mug you. sherlock

5. June 2010, 22:51:32

reacher9

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Nope... I don't believe in "luck". It's just a convenient abstract definition for some chance happening of a fortunate (or an adverse) event in our lives. The former is considered "good" luck and the latter "bad" luck.

Those individuals with a strong external locus of control are usually more likely to ascribe an outcome as being "lucky" or "unlucky".

smile

5. June 2010, 23:04:27

Macallan

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Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Macallan:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

The Great and Infallible FSM in the sky grants me "luck" periodically.
Unfortunately, when I went to the casinos last Sunday, He chose not to grant it to me. irked


He granted you the luck of not getting mugged on the way right


Well it is Tunica, MS. Where would I get mugged, in the cotton fields?


Probably. Where there's a mugger there will be a muggee, one way or another right
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6. June 2010, 01:14:46

lustremelvs

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i dnt believe in luck.. why? God has plan for us. 'i can do all things through CHRIST' -PHILIPPIANS 3:14-

6. June 2010, 01:17:36

parkerjm

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Interesting... I figured the most superstitious among us would be those most likely to believe in concepts, such as luck...
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6. June 2010, 01:22:40

Macallan

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Originally posted by parkerjm:

Interesting... I figured the most superstitious among us would be those most likely to believe in concepts, such as luck...


They just changed the word, the concept is the same - big guy in the sky helps or he doesn't and there's nothing they can do.
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6. June 2010, 01:23:12

rjhowie

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Luck?

If it exists it ain't around here. I slipped coming down stairs carrying laptop and getting pains on my right shoulder, elbow and wrist. Then a permanent health situation flared up then along came a damnable cold giving me a running nose, tickly cough, chest bother and a headache. The other day wet to run for a bus and strained a muscle in the calf of a leg. Now just received word that the Tax people undercharged me tax for the last two years and have to stump up .

If anyone comes near me with selling lucky white heather I expect to be done for assault. That would be my only form of 'luck'.

6. June 2010, 14:49:00

reacher9

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Originally posted by lustremelvs:

... God has plan for us. 'I can do all things through CHRIST' - PHILIPPIANS 3:14



I'm so sorry to disillusion you, but there is NO god (or gods). There's also NO supernatural or paranormal entity out there who seemingly helps you with your problems or rewards you for your good deeds, or looks after you in times of duress or sickness.

I'm guessing that as a religionist, you claim the outcomes of the natural laws of chance and probability as being a directive from some god or omnipotent, omniscient entity, rather than as the more prosaic (but possibly more appropriate) definition of "luck".

Blind "faith" or strict adherence to some millennia-old religious dogma does NOT a god make. Rather than look to an imaginary friend up in the sky, you'd do better to have faith in yourself and your own capabilities, and those around you in their turn. The more strongly you believe in the inner person's abilities, the less you'll need to rely on fairy story heroes.

Jack.

6. June 2010, 17:39:57

Museatlantis

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I believe in luck
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6. June 2010, 18:20:58

ensbb3

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Originally posted by reacher9:

Originally posted by lustremelvs:

... God has plan for us. 'I can do all things through CHRIST' - PHILIPPIANS 3:14



I'm so sorry to disillusion you, but there is NO god (or gods). There's also NO supernatural or paranormal entity out there who seemingly helps you with your problems or rewards you for your good deeds, or looks after you in times of duress or sickness.

I'm guessing that as a religionist, you claim the outcomes of the natural laws of chance and probability as being a directive from some god or omnipotent, omniscient entity, rather than as the more prosaic (but possibly more appropriate) definition of "luck".

Blind "faith" or strict adherence to some millennia-old religious dogma does NOT a god make. Rather than look to an imaginary friend up in the sky, you'd do better to have faith in yourself and your own capabilities, and those around you in their turn. The more strongly you believe in the inner person's abilities, the less you'll need to rely on fairy story heroes.

Jack.



My problem with religions usually stems from some funddie trying to make me prove god doesn't exist while throwing out all reasonable proof I present with what is said in one disputable book they don't even understand. Luck is relative anyway and I'm not going to say positive thinking don't effect it. It goes in with what I said about unknowingly producing a "lucky" situation, that is a situation where the probabilities have aligned is such a way something good is likely to happen to you even if you didn't manipulate the circumstances consciously. Religion is not without it's uses for the simple minded folk. sherlock

7. June 2010, 16:16:53

reacher9

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Originally posted by ensbb3:

My problem with religions usually stems from some funddie trying to make me prove god doesn't exist while throwing out all reasonable proof I present with what is said in one disputable book they don't even understand. Luck is relative anyway and I'm not going to say positive thinking don't effect it. It goes in with what I said about unknowingly producing a "lucky" situation, that is a situation where the probabilities have aligned is such a way something good is likely to happen to you even if you didn't manipulate the circumstances consciously. Religion is not without it's uses for the simple minded folk.



Totally agree; if you "believe" in the concept of luck, whether rightly or wrongly, you tend to be a more optimistic type of personality. And if you're an optimist, rather than a pessimist, then better things tend to happen around you.


I always enjoy telling religious fundamentalists that I can fly like a bird. Their obvious response is no, no way! I then say I have a 100% belief, and absolute faith that I can in fact fly. Now an atheistic skeptic will obviously get me to prove this by simply asking me to jump off a twenty-storey building.

However, when the religionist asks me to do that, I say: Why? I don't have to prove to you that I can fly; it's simply a matter of my personal faith.

Shoots the existence of god down in one fell swoop. Too easy.

—Jack. smile

7. June 2010, 17:20:55

thedawgfan

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Originally posted by rjhowie:

Luck?



If it exists it ain't around here. I slipped coming down stairs carrying laptop and getting pains on my right shoulder, elbow and wrist. Then a permanent health situation flared up then along came a damnable cold giving me a running nose, tickly cough, chest bother and a headache. The other day wet to run for a bus and strained a muscle in the calf of a leg. Now just received word that the Tax people undercharged me tax for the last two years and have to stump up .



If anyone comes near me with selling lucky white heather I expect to be done for assault. That would be my only form of 'luck'.


lol lol
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7. June 2010, 22:43:04

leftwing

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Luck is the occurring of several random events taking place simultaneously in the same space and time .

8. June 2010, 00:44:12

rjhowie

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Oh and I have a postscript after that epistle of damnables. I lost my dashed reading specs so now I have to cough up for new ones.

8. June 2010, 02:50:17

ensbb3

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Originally posted by leftwing:

...the occurring of several random events taking place simultaneously in the same space and time .



sounds like a car accident. rolleyes

8. June 2010, 08:53:26

handsomekhan

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nice discussions.... we should think about our life.... we have a lot of events which can prove that luck is existed... so friends think good for others so you gain good.... i am new one on opera... and i found a lot of good friends like you by luck...... thanks

8. June 2010, 09:09:48

probafix

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Originally posted by Hadilfrancisco:

yes i do believe on it... But there's alot of thing's that you can get by luck,. You must to do something to achieve it without saying its luck...



I am agree.

8. June 2010, 20:34:43

reacher9

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Originally posted by probafix:

I am agree.



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9. June 2010, 03:15:26

Orlha

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LUCK MAKES ME CRIT ALL THE TIME!
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9. June 2010, 03:25:29

ensbb3

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okie dokie, pokie.

9. June 2010, 03:46:35

parkerjm

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Originally posted by Orlha:

LUCK MAKES ME CRIT ALL THE TIME!


just dont' crit your pants.
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9. June 2010, 03:55:43

ensbb3

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lol

9. June 2010, 05:13:09

Macallan

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Originally posted by Orlha:

I HATE STARBUCKS ELITISTS!!


Hmm, the last clown using this signature was banned a while ago, let's see how long this one lasts.
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9. June 2010, 06:47:09

Thabotizz

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can anybody tell me who said these words, 'Do you feel lucky punk?'

clint eastwood.
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9. June 2010, 08:24:37

KANJEDZA

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my first week in cape town, went to shoprite with R10, to buy a snack....on the till the cashier gave me R92 in change instead of R2....wasnt it lucky.?

9. June 2010, 08:46:15

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jax

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Originally posted by leftwing:

the occurring of several random events taking place simultaneously in the same space and time

The word for that is coincidence.

An advantageous action at the right space and time can be seen as lucky, as a similar action taken at similar circumstances may not be quite as advantageous.
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9. June 2010, 08:55:18

Pesala

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A certain Rabbi was late for his flight and arrived just in time to see it taking off. At the end of the runway it crashed and burst into flames, He exclaimed, “Thank God, as luck would have it, fate was on my side, so I missed my flight.”

Luck is just a term that people use when they do not know the cause of something. If they like the result, they call it good luck, if the result is not to their liking, they call it bad luck.

However, in reality there is nothing that happens without an appropriate cause — if you want to be lucky then do plenty of good kamma and try to avoid evil kamma. Results always follow in due course depending on the kind of seeds that you plant. Exactly when or in what manner our volitional actions will bear fruit is unknown to us, but it is impossible that evil kamma could bear fruit as happiness, and it is impossible that wholesome kamma could bear fruit as suffering.
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9. June 2010, 11:10:10

jim-locksmith

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Things in our life that are out of our hand or that we cannotchange is luck.

9. June 2010, 12:51:50

Belfrager

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Luck or bad luck are related with the degree of probability that we anticipate something, either good or bad, to happen.
It's a kind of statistical interpretation of the future and a characteristic need for psychological security. So when our previsions miserably fails, we have an excuse, it failed because he/she was lucky and not because we were wrong at our prevision.
It's like if luck would be a momentary suspension of logic. Then things would return to their normal course.
Remains of magical thinking, I suppose.
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9. June 2010, 18:45:26

ensbb3

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Originally posted by KANJEDZA:

my first week in cape town, went to shoprite with R10, to buy a snack....on the till the cashier gave me R92 in change instead of R2....wasnt it lucky.?



No just dishonest if you kept it...

10. June 2010, 09:21:18

handsomekhan

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Pesala, your comments are so solid...... i think u have deeply thinking on it..... great great

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