who needs the title bar anyway!

who needs the title bar anyway!

is there some way to remove the title bar - that's a more than sufficient full screen mode for me.

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Hmmm, not possible and more likely not going to be in a near future.

Solution: Use a mac. They got that right.

Or you could just use Full Screen mode (F11).

in full screen, I'll have to activate the page bar and address bar too frequently and plus the panel toggle doesn't show.

Edit your F11 key to do something like this:

Enable Menu bar & Enter fullscreen & View main bar,2 | Leave fullscreen & View main bar,2 & Disable Menu bar

Put the panels button and address field on the main bar. Add a Wiki button to the main bar of the Windows Menu. That replaces the page bar's function. Use the middle-mouse or a scroll-wheel mouse for scrolling, use the Alter key to pull down the menus, and away you go.

Some things are better shown graphically.

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where do you get the page title from?

Originally posted by csant
where do you get the page title from?

Damn, until you mentioned it, I didn't realise it was of any use.

Originally posted by Domel
Solution: Use a mac. They got that right.

The menubar at the top of the screen is something I'd really like to have in Windows. With MDI apps in particular it makes much more sense to have the menubar at the top, rather than a pointless titlebar. It just wastes space and makes accessing the menus significantly slower. Unfortunately there's quite a lot of Windows software I need, otherwise I'd probably switch to Mac OS.

Or you could just use Full Screen mode (F11).

Unless I'm very much mistaken there's no way to have MDI window management in full screen mode as it maximises the page being displayed. Compared with losing MDI features like tile and cascade, having the titlebar waste a bit of space is a pretty minor problem.

Having said that it would be really nice to be able to hide it like you can hide the menubar, every bit of wasted screen space that can be reclaimed is worth having IMO.

Originally posted by Stephen Yates
quote:
Originally posted by Domel
Solution: Use a mac. They got that right.


The menubar at the top of the screen is something I'd really like to have in Windows. With MDI apps in particular it makes much more sense to have the menubar at the top, rather than a pointless titlebar. It just wastes space and makes accessing the menus significantly slower. Unfortunately there's quite a lot of Windows software I need, otherwise I'd probably switch to Mac OS.


quote:
Or you could just use Full Screen mode (F11).


Unless I'm very much mistaken there's no way to have MDI window management in full screen mode as it maximises the page being displayed. Compared with losing MDI features like tile and cascade, having the titlebar waste a bit of space is a pretty minor problem.

Having said that it would be really nice to be able to hide it like you can hide the menubar, every bit of wasted screen space that can be reclaimed is worth having IMO.

I totally agree man!

I would like this feature also. Not for the space saving, but for the speed of going to the top right to get a new page or to hit on of the tabs quiker. The only way to achieve a similar result is to move the task bar to the top, move the other tab to the bottom, then you can simulate the effect, but you have to go down to the bottom instead of to the top. Let me know if you don't understand what i'm saying. Anywho, a good feature, but other stuff, like a PIM, i'd much rather have.

Originally posted by iooin The only way to achieve a similar result is to move the task bar to the top, move the other tab to the bottom, then you can simulate the effect, but you have to go down to the bottom instead of to the top.

Yeah. What they should really do, though, is like in psp

look at that, now aint that cute!.png

wuah... that color-scheme hurts o.O

Ah, png. Smart guy. Wow, that's cool, just checked it out.

Resize the application window (so it's not fullscreen anymore) and move it upward to get the title bar off the screen. That's as far as you're going to get it, I'm afraid.

Originally posted by Pesala
Or maybe like Irfan View:

Alter Shift C = show/hide caption (windows title bar)

+100

Originally posted by F_V
Resize the application window (so it's not fullscreen anymore) and move it upward to get the title bar off the screen. That's as far as you're going to get it, I'm afraid.

Hey, that's cool

Actually, I'd much like the title bar removed in the normal mode so that I have the option of the full screen mode

wow, this thread died a death didn't it?

Removing the Title bar isn't so much an option for Opera - but for your window manager isn't it? I know with gnome, I can simply tell the window decorator to take decorations away from windows in maximised state - or maybe just for selected windows. This means I can maximise Opera vertically and take away the borders - so I don't use the full screen (window is maybe 1100 wide, but full screen height, leaving room at the side for something else).

full-screen on mousegesture? allows me to switch it like in 0.1 second?

Or maybe like Irfan View:

Alter Shift M = show/hide menu bar
Alter Shift S = show/hide status line
Alter Shift C = show/hide caption (windows title bar)
Alter Shift T = show/hide toolbar

With Windows you can use this: opera-launcher and hide-opera-title-bar

Or using AutoHotkey you can add a row in the config like:

#A::WinSet, Style, ^0xC00000, A

that will hide/unhide the titlebar when pressing Win+A.

Originally posted by ben2talk:

Removing the Title bar isn't so much an option for Opera - but for your window manager isn't it?

And yet somehow Chrome managed to do that.....

I think Chrome's UI is a solution for this thread. It works for Windows really well and it looks really clean too.

Originally posted by polaromonas:

And yet somehow Chrome managed to do that.....

What he was saying is that such things should be manages but system settings and not by applications (i.e. browsers)
(and i completely agree with that -- even safari gave up messing with title bar in its final version!)

Originally posted by csant:

where do you get the page title from?

The tabs maybe?

Originally posted by sevenred:

Originally posted by csant:

where do you get the page title from?

The tabs maybe?

The title is written on the tabs and the address on the addressbar, the only drawback is that if you have many tabs opened you won't be able to tell the title of the current page (which is absolutely useless).

I've never read anything from the titlebar, it won't hurt if it's gone.

Originally posted by Sasko88:

I've never read anything from the titlebar, it won't hurt if it's gone.

For most of the time i seek page title in titlebar and tab titles shows only few first letters and favicon to distinguish them in a way. I will if it's gone.
Do you want to play some more?

Originally posted by IAmDeath:

who needs the title bar anyway!

I for instance.

Originally posted by Sasko88:

I've never read anything from the titlebar, it won't hurt if it's gone.

There are also users who never read anything from the address bar. Those users won't miss the address bar either.
A pop up bar for typing addresses would do the job for them

I need! See this post http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=3114833
and the rest of the thread