Opera 7.60 Preview 1 for Windows available

Opera 7.60 Preview 1 for Windows available

Opera 7.60 Preview 1 for Windows is available for download. As usual, discuss the new version in opera.beta and in the my.opera.com Beta Testing forum. Please do not distribute the download link directly, but link to the post in opera.beta or in the my.opera.com Beta Testing forum.

Due to the experimental nature of this release, upgrading a previous Opera installation is not recommended. If you'd like to test your mail from a previous release with this preview, delete the \Opera\Mail\ folder, then copy your entire Mail folder from your old install to your 7.60 Preview 1 installation.

Download Preview 1:

http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o760tp1v_7141.exe (build 7141)

=== Release Notes ===

- Gmail should be working much better than in 7.5x (but not perfect yet). However, we are waiting on changes that need to be done be Google. Check out the sign-in work-around to get started with Gmail in Opera 7.60. You must ID as Opera for Gmail to work

- If you are experiencing problems with secure sites that worked in 7.5x, please see the TLS issues page. Experimental TLS code in this release in known to cause problems on some sites. Please see this thread to report problems (and win Opera merchandise!)

=== Major New Features ===
* New start-up options *

One of the first things you will notice when you start Opera is the ability to select whether to use Opera as an Internet suite or as a browser only. The latter option disables Opera Mail, which can be enabled again via Preferences > Programs and paths. The first-time setup dialog also allows you to easily disable the personal bar and panel selector to increase your page viewing area.

* Speech-enabled browsing *

You may have noticed the increased size of the install file. This release comes with a set of voice libraries that enable the user to control Opera by speaking commands to it. Opera now supports XHTML+Voice 1.2 and the CSS3 speech module (properties new to CSS3 are prefixed by "-xv-"). With the default setup, you can navigate pages, have selected text read to you, and control parts of the browser. Select some text, hold down Scroll lock, and say "speak" or visit the IBM Multimodal demo page for a demo. More information about using voice can be found in the help files by issuing the command "voice help" or in the Opera with Voice tutorial. Join the discussions about this new feature in #voice on irc.opera.com.

Voice functions only work on Windows 2000 and XP.

*In-line error pages *

Opera 7.60 features in-line error pages, allowing you to continue to work if a page loading in the background gives an HTTP error. The error pages include helpful tips to troubleshoot possible problems and stay out of your way until you are ready to deal with them.

* Medium-Screen Rendering *

Not everyone has huge monitors or lots of free workspace. That is one of the reasons we created Medium-Screen Rendering (MSR), available by selecting "Fit to width" from the "View" menu. MSR reformats pages so they fit better on smaller screens. The end result is a page that is very close to the original design, but that should not require horizontal scrolling.

A detailed list of changes is available at http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w760p1.html#important.

Really liking the in-line error messages.

ho my god *In-line error pages *

Thank you so much!!! Can't remember for how long I've been waiting for this. Hope you will start fixing lots of other longtime standing gripes of users!

Originally posted by Squirt
Really liking the in-line error messages.

+1 Great!


But 6M download...
What if I don't need voice features?

Originally posted by jaa
What if I don't need voice features?

I really hope that'll be a separate download in the final.

Yup!!

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, no linux version!!!! I want one to test it now!!!
I don't care about speech navigation, I want a new Opera for my Debian NOW!!!

There is a distinct possibility there will be a Linux and a Mac version some day.

Love the inline error messages.. but I think the writing for the tips is too big

Well actually for the final.. include some sort of logo beside the error message.. It looks a tad too bare.. With maybe a line under it, seperating it.. with a bit of style.

Can't you guys design a funky sad Opera face


Matt

could someone clue me in on what inline errors are?

Go to a site that doesnt exist.. instead of the popup box saying 'Cannot be blah', you get it inline.. like you'd get the IE 404 error

ah. i like that better. thanks

Improved RSS handling too! Asks if you want to add new access point! Nice!!

-tripper

Originally posted by jax
There is a distinct possibility there will be a Linux and a Mac version some day.

but too late for the scavenger hunt!!

How do I hold down scroll lock and say speak when I don't have a scroll lock button on my laptop?

oooooooooooooh.... just looked here to see if there was anything new... the speech support is just soooooooo cooooooll....
just go here, press scroll lock or the microphone, and say "i would like twenty large pizzas with extra cheese, Olives, Mushrooms, Onions, Peppers, Bacon, Chicken, Ham, Meatball, Sausage and Pepperoni". Or anything else you'd like. It rocks :-P

Ok I press the mic icon and say "computer,..." but it doesn't understand me

try saying "voice help"

I said "Bean" in Mr. Beans voice and it went one page back! Yupie!

http://everquest2.station.sony.com/
Works even worse with this build

Please be specific when reporting problems. Explain exactly what the problem is and how it can be reproduced. See the sticky post with the beta testing rules.

Can I make him "read" by clicking something because it only understand my "read" once in 1000 times.

read read read read read read read read

michmaj: you should say "speak", that may help
hm... btw, the my opera server seems really slow. i have to wait for about 40-60 seconds for connection to establish

edit: uh... and i should learn to _read_ before posting...
it does indeed hardly recognize my read too

zeekoe: ive noticed it too today.

HAHA "Speeak works"
Test: I am HAL-9000 computer. I am stupid but coooooooool.

Is there a way to make 7.60 show smilies in mail?

Originally posted by jaa
Is there a way to make 7.60 show smilies in mail?

Doesn't the usual way work? In the mail display toolbar, View > Display >> Enable smileys...

Originally posted by neeraj_deshmukh
Doesn't the usual way work? In the mail display toolbar, View > Display >> Enable smileys...

Nope, it doesn't

Originally posted by jaa
Nope, it doesn't

Now that I pay a bit more attention, I can see that you are right. The smileys seem to be gone.

Question: Why must I have a microphone for it? Isn't it possible that Opera reads the site without to give the command "speak" via a microphone.

Thx - maybe I've done something wrong ...

removed

[Removed. No feature requests please. Read the rules. -mods]

The MSR "Fit to width" feature is awesome. /me browses with it turned on all the time now

Originally posted by fuzi1968
Question: Why must I have a microphone for it? Isn't it possible that Opera reads the site without to give the command "speak" via a microphone.

Thx - maybe I've done something wrong ...

You could map the voice commands to a key (combination) of your choice... There is also an action "Speak from selection" - this starts reading from the point you selected until the end of the page... (stop it by hitting ctrl+f9)

/c

Some exciting news in this build, but still no sign of server side rules.
Waiting, hoping

Originally posted by fuzi1968
Question: Why must I have a microphone for it? Isn't it possible that Opera reads the site without to give the command "speak" via a microphone.

See discussion following http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=663450#post663430

Little problem:
http://my.opera.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=663480

Re: Opera 7.60 Preview 1 for Windows available

Originally posted by Junyor
One of the first things you will notice when you start Opera is the ability to select whether to use Opera as an Internet suite or as a browser only. The latter option disables Opera Mail, which can be enabled again via Preferences > Programs and paths.

Is the IRC client also disabled when this option is chosen?

I have no need for the voice thingy, but it surely is entertaining! And I love the inline errors alot.

Opera doesn't pronounce "Ni" correctly (as in Knights Who Say 'Ni) but it manages to say 'Ecky- ecky- ecky- ecky- pikang- zoop- boing- goodem- zoo- owli- zhiv' suprisingly well.

This is terrific. Going to test it!

Originally posted by zeekoe
just go here [...] It rocks :-P

Whoa, that's pretty cool. It even understands my spanglish!

The female voice should be sexier though..

OMG. Coolness!

Originally posted by michmaj
Opera doesn't pronounce "Ni" correctly (as in Knights Who Say 'Ni) but it manages to say 'Ecky- ecky- ecky- ecky- pikang- zoop- boing- goodem- zoo- owli- zhiv' suprisingly well.

Get a good laugh: try to make it read any page in a foreign language I've tried French, Spanish and German). It's hilarious!

I stumbled across a link that made 7.60 crash when my 7.54 did not
when you go to http://ilovebees.com/ and click on "Home" in 7.60 it Opera crashes and gives a generic microsoft error something to do with opera.dll

Is it just me or is this an issue with 7.60 It could just be bad web page programing or the fact that when I change from 7.45 to 7.60 I installed it overtop of it even when it told me not to. I was to lazy to conpleatly unistall and re-install the 7.60 so I figerd I would ask one of you to try the link and see if it fails or if it's just me.


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It's kinda funny each time it crashes it adds an extra opera Icon to my tray have to reboot to kill them
[img]http://www.victory2b.com/Recoil/temp/operacrash.jpg
The realy funny thing is the more I crash oprea the harder it is to recrash it.
It's getting smarter and learing how to not crash like it's younger brother 7.45
the first 3 times I only had to click on Home ones and it died the last 3 times I had to click on it about 4 times


I realy must find something more productive to do with my time I even made a Video of it crashing my opera

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Thanks

@Rapture: No need to reboot to get rid of the icon(s) in the tray - did you try to hover your mouse on them?

/c

I just tried to install 7.60p1 over 7.54 and got an error message:

M2 error
Store Init failed
Engine Init() failed

I know that one should rather install preview versions in separate folders, and I didn't use my 'real' directory but a copy of it.

Still, the error ist strange.
Has the mail format been changed?

Is there anything I can do to enable M2 again?
Or is it a bug that's gonna be fixed in one of the next previews?
thx.

Mmmm.. the copy may point to files in the original mail folder. Trying to run two Operas with the same mail folder simultaneously will not work.

Copying your installation somewhere else and running it will break things.