Friday, 12. November 2004, 16:07:31
Opera 7.60 Preview 3 for Windows available
Opera 7.60 Preview 3 for Windows is available for download. As usual, discuss the new version in opera.beta and in the my.opera.com Beta Testing forum. Please do not distribute the download link directly, but link to the post in opera.beta or in the my.opera.com Beta Testing forum.Due to the experimental nature of this release, upgrading a previous Opera installation is not recommended. If you'd like to test your mail from a previous release with this preview, delete the \Opera\Mail\ folder, then copy your entire Mail folder from your old install to your 7.60 Preview 3 installation.
Download Preview 3:
[url]http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o760p3_7321.exe (build 7321)
=== Release Notes ===
- Use of the prefix "browser" is now mandatory for all voice commands.
- A detailed list of changes is available at [url]http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w760p3.html#important.
Friday, 12. November 2004, 16:22:07
This version "feels" very good so far! Very nice job!
Friday, 12. November 2004, 16:54:08
Beautiful
Middle-click to create new tab, get a nifty drop-down under empty address line.It's as though Opera developers read my mind, knew just what I wanted (which is astounding, because until I saw this, even I didn't know I wanted it). I may cry.
EDIT: Just realized this is the universal dropdown behavior - but that a "new page" forces the dropdown to open automagically.
SWEET!
EDIT #2 - Small suggestion (possible mini-bug): Clicking the downward arrow at the far-right of the address field opens this tremendously useful dropdown. However, the dropdown seems stuck (hiding a bit of the page). It seems like it would be most intuitive that the downward arrow graphic would change to an upward arrow, which could be clicked to hide the dropdown. As it is, the dropdown sticks until you click somewhwere inside the page.
Friday, 12. November 2004, 17:04:36
It looks like my reported bugs regarding BiDi (new to 7.6, not present in 7.5) have not been dealt with. A pitty. I hope that this won't get into the final release... See thread: [url]http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70817
Friday, 12. November 2004, 17:15:42
Read the Release Notes -- it works in Advanced MDI mode, not in 'Prefer pages inside window' mode.Originally posted by Arach
UH-AH! Still, clicking a page tab DOES NOT minimize it! This is driving me NUTS! (I'm using only Windows Standard Skin!). Damn!
Friday, 12. November 2004, 17:38:30
edit: oh, and great improvements
Friday, 12. November 2004, 18:06:54
clicking on the link gives me the following message:
The requested URL /windows/o760p3_7321.exe was not found on this server.
Friday, 12. November 2004, 18:11:09
Some things I'd like to see as defaults:
* Notepad instead of wordpad as the default editor.
* Smooth scrolling, smooth zooming of images turned on
* Disk cache > 2MB. Maybe 50 or 100MB.
* Check documents - Always. If I visit a page I've visited before it's because I want to see if it's changed.
* Identify as Opera. Web developers need to be able to show with statistics when people are using modern browsers. It's hard to know which stats correctly identify Opera when it's set to appear as IE and which don't. The sites I visit don't require me to identify as IE.
EDIT: Very, very annoying crash - I'd just finished writing my rather lengthy comment to another site for the second time and Opera crashed again while I was submitting it. Arrgh, I couldn't be bothered writing it a third time.
Friday, 12. November 2004, 18:15:42
Friday, 12. November 2004, 18:16:17
Back to my Firefox/Thunderbird combo that lets me do everything, albeit with somewhat less convenience than Opera for some routine things.
Friday, 12. November 2004, 18:17:06
Originally posted by aylons
Why the mandatory prefix in speech?
Because it causes confusion with X+V pages that have similar grammars as the built in ones (it thinks you said something you didn't). Also, a longer phrase is easier to reco than a short one.
If you don't want the prefix, just delete it from the dropdown box in preferences or put square brackets around it (makes it optional).
Saturday, 13. November 2004, 16:08:26 (edited)
"Advanced MDI" sounds mysterious
I like new menus now. Toolbars and Windows menus are back, mail/chat/rss split.
mdi icons back - great!
startbar-like-personalbar was better.
Now there is less room in startbar, besides it makes bad impression because it's so buggy (stays underneath usual dropdown, elements are not one-per-line, cannot be disabled from view->toolbars
irc:// urls don't ask before connecting! also clicking on irc link does not bring chat windows up, so first its seems like they do nothing.
Friday, 12. November 2004, 19:50:46
Friday, 12. November 2004, 19:58:56
Works for me fine on p3Originally posted by 22sas
Regression here [url]http://www.autotrader.co.uk/ Try a search workded fine in P2.
Friday, 12. November 2004, 20:08:55
After TP2 I was seriously worried, didn't like the removal of the Window Menu and the removal of 'Toolbars' from the View menu at all - same with the 'X' on the tabs and not being able to minimize them per click.
Now, all of those misses are back, good idea about the advanced MDI.
I have absolutely no problem with Opera being made easier to understand for new users but please, oh please don't remove those handy features for advanced users anymore - feel free to hide them like done in P3, no problem with that. It's ok with me as long as I can make Opera work like the previous versions.
Thanks again, looking forward to the Final!
Oh, one thing I still miss - please add a whitelist feature for the popup blocker, it IS great to see the blocked popups now, but it would be even greater if I could tell opera to allow popups generally for specific servers.
Friday, 12. November 2004, 20:09:22
about identify Opera
2ShinglorDon't understand why somebody still can't currectly define Opera?
// check browsers var ua= navigator.userAgent; var opera= false; var ie= false; var moz= false; if (opera = ua.match(/opera.([0-9\.]+)/i)) opera= opera[1]; else if (ie = ua.match(/msie.([0-9\.]+)/i)) ie= ie[1]; else if (moz = ua.match(/mozilla.([0-9\.]+)/i)) moz= moz[1]; else var other = ua; /* end browser checks */
Friday, 12. November 2004, 20:12:42
Friday, 12. November 2004, 20:17:41
* Check documents - Always. If I visit a page I've visited before it's because I want to see if it's changed.
I've always been confused by the options:
Check Documents, Check Images, Check Other .... it seems these things overlap. I mean, if I have Check Documents set at "every 5 hours" and Check Images at "every 24 hours" and then recheck the page in 6 hours and the the page has new images, will not the Check Documents setting make for the new images appearing?
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