Opera 7.60 Preview 3 for Windows available

Opera 7.60 Preview 3 for Windows available

Opera 7.60 Preview 3 for Windows is available for download. As usual, discuss the new version in opera.beta and in the my.opera.com Beta Testing forum. Please do not distribute the download link directly, but link to the post in opera.beta or in the my.opera.com Beta Testing forum.

Due to the experimental nature of this release, upgrading a previous Opera installation is not recommended. If you'd like to test your mail from a previous release with this preview, delete the \Opera\Mail\ folder, then copy your entire Mail folder from your old install to your 7.60 Preview 3 installation.

Download Preview 3:

http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o760p3_7321.exe (build 7321)

=== Release Notes ===

- Use of the prefix "browser" is now mandatory for all voice commands.
- A detailed list of changes is available at http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w760p3.html#important.

Originally posted by olli
Go to prefs/mail/manage accounts and see if a acount has been added there.. If it's not a account you want there remove it and the menu's etc wil goaway..

olli >> Thank you for answering. Strangely enough I have no accounts, but I have the menu "Feeds" and the button "Mail" (on the panel).

If I add a mail account, I also get the button "Contacts".

If I delete this account, the button "Contacts" disappear, but the button "Mail" and the menu "Feeds" stay...

What am I missing?

Originally posted by ar1pe
WOW:)
Yes,yes! M2 works in this version!

M2 has always been working, hasn't it?

Yay! launch.com finally plays videos in Opera!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Opera for the fix!

Originally posted by olli
Does restarting opera help?

Yep... (Should have thought of that myself... )

Originally posted by 22sas
Regression here http://www.autotrader.co.uk/ Try a search workded fine in P2.

Searching on autotrader works fine for me. However, in the results, the blue box at the top (with the various search options) turns white if I view opera Prefs and then close, also bits of it turn white when I scroll it off and then on the screen using PgUp / PgDown (using smooth scrolling).

Seb

Originally posted by burnout426
I like this build. Let keep things how they are, move on to adding more features and fixing more bugs.

Fix more bugs paleeze!!!

Seb

Yes fix more bugs and add new fefatures.

That's always the plan, isn't it?

This page doesn't play the videos no matter what I set Opera to. Please fix this.

EDIT: I forgot to post the link.

http://music.channel.aol.com/franchise/firstview.adp

Here's a bug I've reported before but persists. I'm fairly certain that I've even submitted it properly, but in case I haven't, I'll do it again.

SDI Mode. Bookmarks. "Open All Folder Items".

Opens XX bookmarks IN ONE PAGE! (xx being the number of bookmarks in a folder -- my specific instance was 26). Not in XX separate instances of Opera as an SDI user would expect.

You can't close pages either, except by mouse gestures. You can /not/ minimize pages at all. (the down-left minimize minimizes the whole instance of opera). You used to be able to, when the minimize, restore, and close buttons were in the top right, but those are gone in this version.

While I realize the tax on system performance of opening 26 pages of Opera at once, wouldn't it be better to conform to the user's desire of SDI mode?

@havaard: Here's another way favicons are getting worse. One of my bookmark sites ( www.drudgereport.com ) has no favicon associated with it but has adopted the favicon of some newspaper whose link was on this bookmarked webpage.

Is there anyway to clear erroneous favicons?

I'm finally seeing favicons for these two sites, after a long absence:
http://sites.barchart.com/pl/jcf/default.asp
http://www.1and1.com/

Originally posted by jimraehl
I'm finally seeing favicons for these two sites, after a long absence:
http://sites.barchart.com/pl/jcf/default.asp
http://www.1and1.com/

Firefox displays those favicons without the Opera favicons' problems, also, as described in this thread.

Originally posted by TreeGo

Originally posted by OperaLvr
Yes fix more bugs and add new fefatures.

That's always the plan, isn't it?

Yes, besides all the concentration lately on the UI for n00bies. (Which is perfectly O.K. I think they can move on to other things now though)

YEA!!! I can type in the TO CC & BCC fields again!!!

tight these preview builds kick ass gmail finally works!

It seems that F4 and Shift-F4 have exchanged their function as of 7.60 P3. Is this by design?

Originally posted by sgunhouse
Sometimes I wish the forum would quote quotes ...

1) Favicons are now scaled to your font size. If you happen to like a fairly small font ...

Is this the reason I suddenly get no Favicons? If so, that's not on -- why should I suddenly lose my Favicons? If it isn't, how do I get them back? Settings look ok.

And strangely enough, as I have quite a few open pages, at the right hand corner I have a drop down window, and when I look at the tabs there, they've got Favicons!

Doug1

I like it. Nothing seems too broken since the last release....and somehow Opera seems to be using less RAM.

Originally posted by OperaLvr
Yay! launch.com finally plays videos in Opera!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Opera for the fix!

Really?

for me I get:

ERROR

To use this application with Netscape, you must use a 4.7x or 7.1 version. Download now.

Please use the following error code when writing to Yahoo! Help. (Error Code: 12)

Looks good, much better than P2. I was getting a little worried there. But I do have one simple request: Add an option in the preferences to turn off the web-style links in the panels, please.

Under Toolbars and Menus, I did see a checkbox for "Enable Hotclick Menu", I tried turning it off, but it didn't stop the web-styling. Maybe this is for something else I'm not aware of?

The mouse wheel scrolling bug is still unfixed.
Also noticed some weird behavior while fast scrolling long webpages using wheel. Sometimes it scrolls in reverse.

From changelog:

- Reenabled saving of chats

Where can I do that please?

It would be much appreciated I think if Opera would offer an option for Drag'n Drop in the Bookmarks section (not in "Manage bookmarks") like Internet Explorer does.

Originally posted by ouzo23
It would be much appreciated I think if Opera would offer an option for Drag'n Drop in the Bookmarks section (not in "Manage bookmarks") like Internet Explorer does.

Agreed !!!

just a thought but is it worth adding s skin page to the right-click-on-a-tool-bar customise dialog??

Originally posted by Shokuji
Add an option in the preferences to turn off the web-style links in the panels, please.

You can do this by changing an opera6.ini setting.

Can you add some option like "lock" for Panels list? now its with variable width and in result we have something like in attach.

unlocked_panels_list.gif

customize dialog (+show hidden):
If you are using 'show progressbar inside address bar' only the 'loading page' type bar will be seen.
- this has to be set to 'pop-up at bottom' so that the static address bar can be changed...

at present you have to OK out, then re-enter to change the right bar - and do it again for the other one...

can they *both* be displayed at once, or an 'apply' button be added?

also: Can the 'name' of the element being customized be shown somewhere??

Originally posted by TreeGo
M2 has always been working, hasn't it?

Not for me TreeGo. That's why I am soooo happy about this P3:D

has inline find been disabled for this preview release? can't seem to find it.

1)
I have attatched a picture of my top panels. But i cannot get it to make more than one line, even if i put wrap to multiple lines on, and i would really like to have some buttons for eg. bookmarks there. is this possible?

2)
Is it possible to allow pop-ups for a single webpage? Or maybe the blocked popup could be opened by clicking on the tooltip that shows when a popup is blocked? I love the trashcan, do not misunderstand me, but it can be a bit annoying to go all the way in and choose a blocked popup.

3)
Reopened popups opens in a new tab (good) but the tab is placed as the first tab (bad). Could an option be made to put the tab last, or next to the tab where the popup origined from?

4)
[Whine]I still cannot pay bills with my webbank, and in FF & IE it works [\whine]

5)


operapanel.png

Two things that annoy me most about Opera -

1. Bookmarks -> Bookmark This Page. It remembers the last folder I added a bookmark to and selects it automatically which is very annoying. I usually forget that it does this and so I'm left wondering where my bookmark went. How are you supposed to add a bookmark to the root folder? Once a folder has been selected, the only way (that I know of) to unselect it (so that I can add my bookmark to the root folder) is to resize the dialog until there is blank space below the list of folders and then click in that space.

2. If I leave a page that is only partly loaded (by clicking a link or clicking back for example) and then come back to it, it doesn't finish loading, it just stays in it's partly loaded state.

EDIT: Oh, and one minor thing - the popup blocked notification gets in the way of the tabs.

@Shinglor - There /used/ to be an "add page here" dialogue for bookmarks in the bookmarks menu, but that seems to have disappeared.

As a workaround, you could always add it to a random folder then go into 'manage bookmarks' and drag it to the root, but that's sort of a waste of time...

P3 keeps freezing on me and I have to end process on it . No errors, nothing. Seems to be when I have 3 or more tabs open.

Originally posted by Val_Parthen
@Shinglor - There /used/ to be an "add page here" dialogue for bookmarks in the bookmarks menu, but that seems to have disappeared.

'Bookmark page' from a sub folder in the Bookmarks menu adds it to that folder.

Originally posted by OxxY
1)
I have attatched a picture of my top panels. But i cannot get it to make more than one line, even if i put wrap to multiple lines on, and i would really like to have some buttons for eg. bookmarks there. is this possible?

The address field is designed to fill available space, adding extra buttons to the address bar merely causes the address field to shrink to adjust.

The solution is to add a special kind of spacer called a wrapper which acts like a line feed in text - it forces everything after it to appear on the next line.

So, right-click on the Address bar and select Customize. Go to the Buttons tab, click on Spacers, and drag a wrapper to the toolbar where you'd like the buttons to wrap (so that the first button after the wrapper will be on the next line).

Shinglor and Val,

The Bookmark page entry on the top of the Bookmarks menu should add the bookmark to the top level folder now. It's the Add-in-most-recent-folder item that is gone from the menu. However, that's still the functionality of some other buttons and the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+T. We plan to clean up those things before 7.6 goes final.

One proposal is to change Add-in-most-recent-folder to Ctrl+Shift+T and make Ctrl+T add the bookmark to the top level folder.

Originally posted by illiad
customize dialog (+show hidden):
If you are using 'show progressbar inside address bar' only the 'loading page' type bar will be seen.
- this has to be set to 'pop-up at bottom' so that the static address bar can be changed...

at present you have to OK out, then re-enter to change the right bar - and do it again for the other one...

can they *both* be displayed at once, or an 'apply' button be added?

Of course, you could just uncheck "Show hidden" ...

Preferences in fullscreen mode is not saved! If i add tabs to fullscreen (very handy) Opera forgets it when fullscreen mode is exited!

oh and http://www.dailyrush.dk renders totally wrong in fullscreen mode (this is also the case is 7.5x i have just not noticed before).

edit: Oh and can you specify your own icons for certian buttons? like having a different icon for each bookmark on a bar? or maybe have the page's favicon?

The display of http://www.dailyrush.dk is by design, please see:
http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=578

Originally posted by borg
Shinglor and Val,

The Bookmark page entry on the top of the Bookmarks menu should add the bookmark to the top level folder now. It's the Add-in-most-recent-folder item that is gone from the menu. However, that's still the functionality of some other buttons and the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+T. We plan to clean up those things before 7.6 goes final.

One proposal is to change Add-in-most-recent-folder to Ctrl+Shift+T and make Ctrl+T add the bookmark to the top level folder.

Thanks, I tried and it worked how it should. I thought I was using preview 3 the last time it happened but I must have been wrong.

who is right?

If in JavaScript find some input field, write to it's value string like "Ваш" and submit form, next page recieve:
1) if use Mozilla or IE - Ваш
2) if use Opera latest versions (~ >= 7.50) - Ваш (letters, not it's codes)

looks like Opera is right, but I not sure... your comments

Originally posted by OxxY
Preferences in fullscreen mode is not saved! If i add tabs to fullscreen (very handy) Opera forgets it when fullscreen mode is exited!

This is the way it's always been, IIRC. After all, fullscreen gets rid of the ads, and it's supposed to be a presentation tool anyway, so toolbars there don't make any sense.

@borg: I don't quite understand. This site has stylesheets only for "screen" media type - not a single style for projection. Shouldn't Opera in this case use fullSCREEN not projection media?

Unchecking "Enable sound in Web pages" in Preferences > Multimedia/Quick preferences will now disable Voice.

Noooo. Always got this unchecked for those annoying backgroudn music on sites, and I always use(d) the Voice Control

@porneL: they have defined their CSS for the 'screen' medium ONLY, so the fullscreen=projection mode does not get any styles.

If the site wants the styles to work across all modes they must use media=all or no media limitation.

@jor: so Opera sucks here. Fullscreen is screen medium, to the fullest!

If Opera wants to mix fullscreen view and Opera Show feature it should have smart fallbacks implemented (like it does with SSR - uses screen medium unless page has handheld stylesheet).

@sgunhouse: Thanks for the wrapper, I did not know it excisted.

Thanks for explaining the www.dailyrush.dk problem.

I do not understand why preferences should be ignored in fullscreen, I can understand the add issue. But if (read when) I pay for Opera i would want the preferences to be saved because i love browsing in fullscreen (with tabs). Fullscreen being a presentation tool is not the case for all users i am quite sure, though it does seem minimalism is a dead trend these days.