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Opera 7.60 Preview 3 for Windows available
Opera 7.60 Preview 3 for Windows is available for download. As usual, discuss the new version in opera.beta and in the my.opera.com Beta Testing forum. Please do not distribute the download link directly, but link to the post in opera.beta or in the my.opera.com Beta Testing forum.Due to the experimental nature of this release, upgrading a previous Opera installation is not recommended. If you'd like to test your mail from a previous release with this preview, delete the \Opera\Mail\ folder, then copy your entire Mail folder from your old install to your 7.60 Preview 3 installation.
Download Preview 3:
http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o760p3_7321.exe (build 7321)
=== Release Notes ===
- Use of the prefix "browser" is now mandatory for all voice commands.
- A detailed list of changes is available at http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w760p3.html#important.
Originally posted by Junyor
@freedimension: do you have a test case for the blur() and focus() problems?
Yep, I reduced my original file to the necessary:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xml:lang="en" lang="en" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta name="generator" content="PSPad editor, [url]www.pspad.com[/url]" />
<title>
Title
</title>
<style type="text/css">
/* <![CDATA[ */
* {
padding:0;
margin:0;
border-spacing:0;
empty-cells:show;
font-size:10px;
font-family:verdana;
}
body {
margin:10px;
}
div.mdidoc{
position:absolute;
padding:10px;
display:none;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
color:#fff;
}
div.mdifirst{
display:block;
}
div.mdidoc a{
border:1px solid #000;
text-decoration:none;
color:#000;
padding:1px 2px;
}
#mdi{
z-index:0;
position:relative;
overflow:auto;
top:-1px;
left:-5px;
width:605px;
height:375px;
background:#aaa;
border:1px solid #000;
}
input.mditab{
z-index:255;
position:relative;
color:#000;
background:#888;
border:1px solid #000;
margin:0;
}
input.mdifocus{
background:#aaa;
border-bottom:1px solid #aaa;
}
input{
padding:0;
margin:5px;
border:1px solid black;
cursor:pointer;
height:18px;
}
/* ]]> */
</style>
<script type="text/javascript">
/* <![CDATA[ */
var oldname="";
function initTab(name)
{
oldname=name;
}
function switchTab(name)
{
d = document.getElementById("doc_" + oldname);
t = document.getElementById("tab_" + oldname);
d.style.display = "none";
t.style.background = "#888";
t.style.border = "1px solid #000";
d = document.getElementById("doc_" + name);
t = document.getElementById("tab_" + name);
d.style.display = "block";
t.style.background = "#aaa";
t.style.borderBottom = "1px solid #aaa";
t.blur();
oldname = name;
}
/* ]]> */
</script>
</head>
<body onLoad="initTab('grp');">
<input id="tab_grp" type="button" class="mditab mdifocus" value="AAA" onClick="switchTab('grp')" />
<input id="tab_lang" type="button" class="mditab" value="BBB" onClick="switchTab('lang')" />
<div id="mdi">
<div id="doc_grp" class="mdidoc mdifirst">
This is side AAA
</div>
<div id="doc_lang" class="mdidoc">
Side BBB as you can see
</div>
</div>
</body>
When clicking on the tabs the border around them should vanish afterwards (especially the bottom one). In IE and Firefox it's working this way. I tried several workarounds, none of them functioned (and I don't like hacks that much anyway).
Oh, and the smilie in the code should of course be ":<nospacehere>p"
(the board-software really shouldn't do that inside code-tags, tsktsk ;-) )
Originally posted by Stephen Yates
The start bar doesn't appear when you drag something from the bookmarks or windows panels. It's hidden as soon as you click inside the panel, even if the toolbars are being customised. This makes it more hassle to add existing bookmarks and open windows to the p3 start bar.
edit: I've now found that this is only the case when the panel is floating; I can drag from bookmarks & windows when it's on a screen edge. This kind of inconsistency is definitely a bug, hopefully it'll be fixed in the final.
That's not true for me. It doesn't matter if my window is maximized or floating. The startbar always drops down when I drag a link from the window or the bookmarks. (I installed from scratch, not over a p2 installation. Are you different?)
Though I really wish I could turn off this behavior. I'd rather only be able to add links to the start bar when I'm customizing. It's annoying for the startbar to drop down all the time. It would be better (for me at least) if they start bar only dropped on a new page or when I click in the address bar. That would be ideal!
Fast, faster, Opera, Opera 7.60...
1) I've checked 7.60 P3 vs 7.54 JavaScript speed at:http://www.24fun.com/downloadcenter/benchjs/benchjs.html
And the result is... Wow ! Well, probably it was also true with P1&P2 but I have not played with them.
2) Blocked pop-up notification - yeah, finally ! I need it sometimes.. Unfortunately..
I am happy-happy-happy.
Originally posted by Val_Parthen
I can't stand pop-up notification. I really hope we turn it off in the final...
Well, OK. I am glad that pop-up notification exists, but certainly there should be a way to turn it off. An it could be even turned off by default, why not.
Re: Fast, faster, Opera, Opera 7.60...
Originally posted by erleusortok
1) I've checked 7.60 P3 vs 7.54 JavaScript speed at:
http://www.24fun.com/downloadcenter/benchjs/benchjs.html
And the result is... Wow ! Well, probably it was also true with P1&P2 but I have not played with them.
Looked at it a couple of days ago. That one test with the random background colors was ... well, incredible. 1.1 seconds on a 500 MHz processor! On the other hand, the layers test is still pretty slow ...
<grumble>I told you to do that the very first time...</grumble> Glad you got it working, finally...Originally posted by fesquivel
You guys rock! I just did that and now I can see the Start bar ;-) It's great, I've never seen that functionality before in any other browser...
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. - Dilbert
edit: I've now found that this is only the case when the panel is floating; I can drag from bookmarks & windows when it's on a screen edge. This kind of inconsistency is definitely a bug, hopefully it'll be fixed in the final.
No, that will also happen if your URL bar is on the Main Bar.
Intel Core i7 2670QM 2,2 GHz | 8GB RAM | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M 3072 MB
Originally posted by neeraj_deshmukh
<grumble>I told you to do that the very first time...</grumble> Glad you got it working, finally...
Well, you made a little typo:
You can enable the Start bar by View > Toolbars > Customize...; and checking the option for Start bar in the Panels tab.
Actually, it's View > Toolbars > Customize / Toolbars tab... that's why I couldn't find it at first
Fabio
Opera v9.00 (build 8432) ID'ed as himself | SUN JRE build 1.5.0_07-b03 (on) | Windows XP Pro (+SP2) | Intel Pentium 4-M 2.0 GHz | 640 MB RAM | Mobility Radeon 7500 Video
//
...wand?
i tried a clean install and saved my old wand.dat file... then, i tried to enter websites such as mail.yahoo.com, hotmail.com, and many other... and enabling wand won't work... no notification or whatever... opera won't save the password...why is it?*this is for opera 7.6 p3
Originally posted by NoSanninWa
That's not true for me. It doesn't matter if my window is maximized or floating. The startbar always drops down when I drag a link from the window or the bookmarks. (I installed from scratch, not over a p2 installation. Are you different?)
I'm talking about the position of the panel, not whether the window is maximised or not. If the panel is on either the left or right of the screen then I can drag from the bookmarks or windows panel to the start bar. But if the panel is floating then the start bar is hidden when I click in the panel, so I cannot drag items to it from the panel.
By me the dropmenus and the site is total correct, both the gray
and yellow too. I've registered me to "Kispál és a Borz", and
could download the video.
Re: ...wand?
Originally posted by rochure
i tried a clean install and saved my old wand.dat file... then, i tried to enter websites such as mail.yahoo.com, hotmail.com, and many other... and enabling wand won't work... no notification or whatever... opera won't save the password...why is it?
*this is for opera 7.6 p3
Wand data is encrypted. At a guess, the key is in your ousr600.dat file, if you didn't back that up too then you have a new key and your old file is unreadable.
the positioning correct. I agree, small error is error, too.
I'll much more listen to these tests.
Originally posted by Levente
Hi! The page http://kispalesaborz.hu does not work correctly with Opera. It was bad with earlier versions, too. It's OK with IE and FF. Look at the drop-down menu! I wrote them a mail, and they said, that it is because Opera cannot handle layers. Is this true? If yes, you should fix it for 7.6 final...
yea for me its off the left about 2 menus over.. but honestly, any site that is 1.3 MB for the indexpage doesn't deserve to be viewed.. you should be emailing them to learn some web courtesy.
I noticed a couple font white-out problems that I never noticed in p1p2 or even v7.54...
Two places I've noticed this issue: IHT and WashPost. http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/10/21/yourmoney/macao.html and http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57209-2004Nov17.html
IHT link, scroll through to later pages (far right column) and you'll notice the middle column white-out on the 2nd or 3rd page...highlight test in first column and drag through middle column to reveal text...
WashPost link, notice the "most viewed" window in left column and story links are whited out. Mouse through window and links will reveal themselves.
Strange, eh?
(v76p3 is very, very fast...great work!)
Enhancement request: the start bar is cool idea...please consider <history> button..was trying to figure out if I can add a <history> button via customize toolbar, but I couldn't...
Customize window and "My buttons", and from there can you put this button to
startbar.( If you had this problem.)
Re: Top 10 List
Originally posted by freedimension
On my installation the Top 10 List won't work with URLs that have to be encoded (i.e. <space> to %20 becomes ""0 here: '""0und""0Einstellungen/')
Please report bugs here:
http://www.opera.com/support/bugs/
Håvard Kvam Moen @ My Opera / Twitter
GMAIL NOW!!
HEy gmail working cool now:D.but y doesn't gmail support that instant back thing.is there a solution?
Oh I almost forgot.. BE Gʚʚk BE Gȫd-Lʚšš http://godlessgeeks.com/
Re: Top 10 List
Originally posted by freedimension
On my installation the Top 10 List won't work with URLs that have to be encoded (i.e. <space> to %20 becomes ""0 here: '""0und""0Einstellungen/')
Related to another bug about buttons ...
Opera just recently (this preview) added support for encoded characters in INI files, but it isn't working right with URLs...
Re: Preliminary O7.60P3 observations
Originally posted by jimraehl
4. There was a temporary glitch in the item mentioned in fixes #4. I brought up my usual 30+ tab session, then invoked the 16-tab session mentioned in fixes #4. No progress bar appeared, nor any progress information in the Total, Speed, or Time fields on my main toolbar.
Further research indicates that apparently the progress bar does not appear unless there is actual comunication with the server. If the entire frame can be loaded from cache, the progress bar will not appear at all. I've watched traffic (or lack of) in Ethereal with progress bar appearances. Seen the progress bar come on and off while loading a frame, coordinated with Ethereal traffic. Can anyone enlighten me on whether progress bar handling was changed this way in P3?
Originally posted by Heightsmite
I'm getting a fair number of random P3 crashes, and it seems to occur more often in forum-type web pages, including this one. In fact, especially in the Opera forums, although they have occurred at other locations. This is on a clean installation and profile, with no apparent calls for flash or any other plug-ins. On two occasions since the release last Friday, Opera also crashed after waking the PC from power saver suspension.
Might be connected with Preferences/Windows/Loading. Try a higher redraw delay, like 2, 3, or 5 seconds. See if that helps. See quiris post in this thread:
http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72932
Oh I almost forgot.. BE Gʚʚk BE Gȫd-Lʚšš http://godlessgeeks.com/
Some sites that support RSS feeds produce a little blue button in the URL bar of Opera where, when clicked, it adds the feed to your collection.
Anyone know the trigger for this? I'd like to add that to my sites.
Thanks.
Shane R. Monroe
RetroGaming Radio - http://www.retrogamingradio.com
Nintendo Dual Screen Radio - http://www.dualscreenradio.com
Originally posted by darkuni
Anyone know the trigger for this? I'd like to add that to my sites.
<link rel="alternate" href="feed-url-here" type="application/rss+xml" title="feed-title-here" />
I can drag buttons onto the 'page bar'
( called [Pagebar Head.content] in toolbar file.. )Also the 'start bar' ( [Start toolbar.content] ) now has 'not often used' stuff like author mode, find, & zoom.. )
This means I can have address bar + status bar at max size - (half screen width) - I can live with smaller tabs...
another advantage is, the buttons are not 'lost' when there are no pages..
{Classic is better!}Desktop team blog!)XPhomeSP2,P4(1.2Ghz,mx400) :star:Nokia5800XM V210025 make a bug report,
so the next one will be better!!browser stats! tell me better..
Get a skin!! Get a button!! Dont believe the myths!! I can't browse Al Rai News Paper web page it causes opera to crash !
20. November 2004, 18:11:13 (edited)
Hopefully somebody can help as I don't see the solution.
Basically the wand works fine on most websites I use.
However when using the well known hotmail it never asks to save a password.
Cleaning all cookies, history and related stuff doesn't change this.
Also there is no entry for hotmail in the password list of the wand.
Problem occurs on a clean install of Windows and Opera 7.6 P3.
The wand did (more or less)work with hotmail in P2.
(it only failed sometimes to fill in the password for hotmail)
Any sugguestions on how to get the wand working for hotmail would be appreciated. :-)
Behaviour is definitely not as expected here...
ps) Alien_Zero is completely correct about Opera crashing on that website. Opening that website takes all processor power....shows memory consumption steadily increasing above 100 MB and crashing. Pretty nasty...hope that this kind of bugs get top-priority. I've seen Opera crash way too often since version 7!!
ps2) found another example were the wand fails : www.theisonews.com
Yes, I want that button away. Yes, I want those X in page tabs away and old _[]X back. But I don't know how, and I don't know how to use search :-(
Also why some menu texts are empty, like navigation -> under reload every. Shortcut is shift+g, nothing reads left from it. Same thing below right click -> customize toolbars text.
[Edit: oh well, trick is just to right click -> remove. Fine. But I can't remove those pesky x's from my tabs... or maybe I can. The right option was "advanced mdi". Still I had to edit skin's ini file to get tabs work right. For some resaon I had to make them a few pixels thinner while using multiline wrap]
Reading the rest of your message, I suppose the 'search' you mention has to do with searching in the help files?
Anyway, the only question for which you didn't figure out the answer yourself has to do with the menu: apparently you use an older menu setup file, probably a customized one. The feature 'Load all images' has been rmeoved from the default menu in preview 3, and inadvertently the text string has also been removed from the language file that comes with Opera. So older menu setups can't use this string anymore. This is a bug.
Tweak blog
i.e., not over the top of the old one... {Classic is better!}Desktop team blog!)XPhomeSP2,P4(1.2Ghz,mx400) :star:Nokia5800XM V210025 make a bug report,
so the next one will be better!!browser stats! tell me better..
Get a skin!! Get a button!! Dont believe the myths!! Originally posted by illiad
anther reason to do a 'new install'
I guessed that someone would say this
I just feel that reinstalling Opera from a scratch is so completely useless and eats up too much time to tweak everything again. I don't understand how it is so hard to make a working patch system in god's year 2004. I doubt not much people do full reinstall when a new version of Opera arrives.Originally posted by ihmemies
I guessed that someone would say this
Then why are you installing beta versions of Opera?
The recommended (and useful) way to install previews and betas is to do them fresh -- that way whatever issues you see are confirmed to not be holdovers from your previous installation. Part of testing the beta *is* to make sure the customizations etc work as designed.Originally posted by ihmemies
I guessed that someone would say this
The proper way to install a final Opera release is to install on top of the previous final version installed (if you are trying to upgrade).
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. - Dilbert
It just happened on this forum few minutes ago :/
I saw this one few times in 7.54, it happens now with the same freqency in 7.60 B3.
next :
when i browse pr0n (hehe) and download lots (LOTS) of files simultaniously (like 20-30 at the same time) some files get stopped and cannot be resumed (clicking resume doesnt work, server by itselfe supports resuming), selecting "restard trans.." works ok on those files.
This never happened with 7.54!
When I want to close a tab by right-clicking on it, and choosing "close", there is a nice [X] next to this element of the menu. Thanks to this, it's easier to quickly close the tab without reading the menu
Unfortunately, when I do so with an inactive tab, the [X] is missing. I want it back
Originally posted by Babboon
One more thing - it's not really a bug, but I'll post it here anyway
When I want to close a tab by right-clicking on it, and choosing "close", there is a nice [X] next to this element of the menu. Thanks to this, it's easier to quickly close the tab without reading the menu
Unfortunately, when I do so with an inactive tab, the [X] is missing. I want it back
Copy the following to your custom menu
[Pagebar Inactive Item Popup Menu] Item, 53028 = New Page, 1 Item, 50498 = Duplicate page Item, 52035 = Create linked window --------------------1 Platform Windows-Unix-QNX, Submenu, "Arrange", Pagebar Arrange Menu --------------------2 Item, 69336 = Close clicked page,,,,"close page" Item, 67483 = Close all Item, 67484 = Close other Platform Unix-QNX, --------------------3 Platform Unix-QNX, Item, 69884 = Detach page --------------------4 ;Item, 69885 = Show new page button | Hide new page button Include, Toolbar Popup Menu
Originally posted by rasz
when browsing the net opera sometimes asks me what to do with clicked link (open/save) - but those are normal html/php pages, offcourse selecting open doesnt work (cannot open, saved file has 0 bytes), same with save (0 bytes saved).
It just happened on this forum few minutes ago :/
I saw this one few times in 7.54, it happens now with the same freqency in 7.60 B3.
Just recently posted that answer in another thread (somewhere in here) ...
Go to Preferences, File types. Uncheck the box at the top that says "Hide file types opened in Opera". Now find the type application/octet-stream. Click Edit.
If there are any extensions listed for this type, then remove them. Make sure that "Open in Opera" is checked, and click Okay. In the Preferences window, make sure that "Determine action by file extension if MIME type is unreliable" is checked, and then click Okay.
Originally posted by sgunhouse
Just recently posted that answer in another thread (somewhere in here) ...
Go to Preferences, File types. Uncheck the box at the top that says "Hide file types opened in Opera". Now find the type application/octet-stream. Click Edit.
If there are any extensions listed for this type, then remove them. Make sure that "Open in Opera" is checked, and click Okay. In the Preferences window, make sure that "Determine action by file extension if MIME type is unreliable" is checked, and then click Okay.
but it happens at random on different pages (with proper mime) ! like Sourceforge for example, or this very forum !! Its not a server with broken mime problem. Its "Im blind opera at random" problem.
Possible to revert to the previous way which opera handle new page and homepage command?
There is no existing setting to force new pages to open a particular page, but you can use a custom button to achieve the same effect. Drag the link below where you want it, then remove the original New page button:
button
If you haven't ever tried them, feel free:
o www.vivisimo.com
o newest iteration is Clusty. <www.clusty.com>
Cheers,
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