Opera 7.60 Preview 3 for Windows available

Opera 7.60 Preview 3 for Windows available

Opera 7.60 Preview 3 for Windows is available for download. As usual, discuss the new version in opera.beta and in the my.opera.com Beta Testing forum. Please do not distribute the download link directly, but link to the post in opera.beta or in the my.opera.com Beta Testing forum.

Due to the experimental nature of this release, upgrading a previous Opera installation is not recommended. If you'd like to test your mail from a previous release with this preview, delete the \Opera\Mail\ folder, then copy your entire Mail folder from your old install to your 7.60 Preview 3 installation.

Download Preview 3:

http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o760p3_7321.exe (build 7321)

=== Release Notes ===

- Use of the prefix "browser" is now mandatory for all voice commands.
- A detailed list of changes is available at http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w760p3.html#important.

Wow, third!

Third one...

Why the mandatory prefix in speech?

I like the changes in the menu!! Much clearer now!

This version "feels" very good so far! Very nice job!

Downloading now. Hope they added back in the right-click to refresh the page option.

Cool -- that was fast!

8th i guess can't wait to see how good this is

irc:// support -- yes!

I'm the last!!!!!! Otherwise I´m not ok in my brain. At Opera everytime the last tester.

Argghhhh!! I still can't rate movies properly on NetFlix.

Whow!, this time i get it in time..

i am 9th

10th!!!

"E-mail, newsfeeds, and chat may now be activated independently of each other." sounds cool

11th

even better. Congratulations

Beautiful

Middle-click to create new tab, get a nifty drop-down under empty address line.

It's as though Opera developers read my mind, knew just what I wanted (which is astounding, because until I saw this, even I didn't know I wanted it). I may cry.

EDIT: Just realized this is the universal dropdown behavior - but that a "new page" forces the dropdown to open automagically.

SWEET!

EDIT #2 - Small suggestion (possible mini-bug): Clicking the downward arrow at the far-right of the address field opens this tremendously useful dropdown. However, the dropdown seems stuck (hiding a bit of the page). It seems like it would be most intuitive that the downward arrow graphic would change to an upward arrow, which could be clicked to hide the dropdown. As it is, the dropdown sticks until you click somewhwere inside the page.

toggle tab is back in advanced MDI. thank you thank you so much.

whom do i have to kiss for that

Thanks for bringing back the old tab function as an option.
It looks like my reported bugs regarding BiDi (new to 7.6, not present in 7.5) have not been dealt with. A pitty. I hope that this won't get into the final release... See thread: http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70817

GRRRREAT! Little annoying things fixed - this is GREAT!

UH-AH! Still, clicking a page tab DOES NOT minimize it! This is driving me NUTS! (I'm using only Windows Standard Skin!). Damn!

Originally posted by Arach
UH-AH! Still, clicking a page tab DOES NOT minimize it! This is driving me NUTS! (I'm using only Windows Standard Skin!). Damn!

Read the Release Notes -- it works in Advanced MDI mode, not in 'Prefer pages inside window' mode.

Damn. Nice. Yes, yes. I should have read the notes, but then again, it loses that little "x" on the tab.

I don't know - I love Adv. MDI, perhaps I just got used to do things that way.

Thanks for the pointer neeraj.

A.

25th (approximately)

i changed to native-skin "windows classic", but the dropdown menu has white background.. only me was negative suprised? i think some grey color would fit better with windows classic

edit: oh, and great improvements

Originally posted by YtseJam
Thanks for bringing back the old tab function as an option.

Can someone please direct me to where this option is?

tnx

Edit/ Nevermind. Found it. (jup, read the changelog ) /edit

Sweet! But I have a problem configuring the panels to be oldschool (7.23 style) - I can't select "top" as placement for the panel selector.

minisu, make sure you are on the Toolbars tab of the Customize dialogue to set properties for the panel selector.

Originally posted by umrain
minisu, make sure you are on the Toolbars tab of the Customize dialogue to set properties for the panel selector.

ah, thanks!

I'am affraid i'm last in line. The product was sold out.
clicking on the link gives me the following message:

The requested URL /windows/o760p3_7321.exe was not found on this server.

Nice to see these interface improvements after the seemingly random removal of menu options in preview 2. The top 10 thing is very good.

Some things I'd like to see as defaults:
* Notepad instead of wordpad as the default editor.
* Smooth scrolling, smooth zooming of images turned on
* Disk cache > 2MB. Maybe 50 or 100MB.
* Check documents - Always. If I visit a page I've visited before it's because I want to see if it's changed.
* Identify as Opera. Web developers need to be able to show with statistics when people are using modern browsers. It's hard to know which stats correctly identify Opera when it's set to appear as IE and which don't. The sites I visit don't require me to identify as IE.


EDIT: Very, very annoying crash - I'd just finished writing my rather lengthy comment to another site for the second time and Opera crashed again while I was submitting it. Arrgh, I couldn't be bothered writing it a third time.

Regression here http://www.autotrader.co.uk/ Try a search workded fine in P2.

Hmmmm ... changelog does not sound very exciting to me .... nothing compelling for me to bother with it ... I would have liked to have seen "mail search now works" or "HTML mail forwarding/composing now possible" in the changelog.

Back to my Firefox/Thunderbird combo that lets me do everything, albeit with somewhat less convenience than Opera for some routine things.

Originally posted by aylons

Why the mandatory prefix in speech?

Because it causes confusion with X+V pages that have similar grammars as the built in ones (it thinks you said something you didn't). Also, a longer phrase is easier to reco than a short one.

If you don't want the prefix, just delete it from the dropdown box in preferences or put square brackets around it (makes it optional).

Cool, this was quick between tp2 and tp3!
Now all I need is a Linux or Mac version to test it, please!

Originally posted by lukefab
Cool, this was quick between tp2 and tp3!
Now all I need is a Linux or Mac version to test it, please!

+ 1000000 (about a Mac version)

Much better!

"Advanced MDI" sounds mysterious
I like new menus now. Toolbars and Windows menus are back, mail/chat/rss split.
mdi icons back - great!

startbar-like-personalbar was better.
Now there is less room in startbar, besides it makes bad impression because it's so buggy (stays underneath usual dropdown, elements are not one-per-line, cannot be disabled from view->toolbars )

irc:// urls don't ask before connecting! also clicking on irc link does not bring chat windows up, so first its seems like they do nothing.

cool!

little remark: the link to the opera google group in the changelog does not seem to work..

Originally posted by 22sas
Regression here http://www.autotrader.co.uk/ Try a search workded fine in P2.

Works for me fine on p3

please readd the default operations (close, maximize etc.) to the top right corner @ the tab.
and pls make it again possible to minimze the tab by double clicking on the tab at the tab-menu.
also it would be nice to readd the "skin-menu" to the normal context-menu

Skully, choose in Window handling "Advanced MDI" and you'll have your option back (and you don't need to double-click a tab in order to minimize it anyhow. One click is enough).

thx

Thank you for Preview3!
After TP2 I was seriously worried, didn't like the removal of the Window Menu and the removal of 'Toolbars' from the View menu at all - same with the 'X' on the tabs and not being able to minimize them per click.
Now, all of those misses are back, good idea about the advanced MDI.

I have absolutely no problem with Opera being made easier to understand for new users but please, oh please don't remove those handy features for advanced users anymore - feel free to hide them like done in P3, no problem with that. It's ok with me as long as I can make Opera work like the previous versions.

Thanks again, looking forward to the Final!

Oh, one thing I still miss - please add a whitelist feature for the popup blocker, it IS great to see the blocked popups now, but it would be even greater if I could tell opera to allow popups generally for specific servers.

about identify Opera

2Shinglor

Don't understand why somebody still can't currectly define Opera?

// check browsers
var ua	= navigator.userAgent;
var opera	= false;
var ie	= false;
var moz	= false;

if (opera = ua.match(/opera.([0-9\.]+)/i))
	opera	= opera[1];
else if (ie = ua.match(/msie.([0-9\.]+)/i))
	ie		= ie[1];
else if (moz = ua.match(/mozilla.([0-9\.]+)/i))
	moz		= moz[1];
else
	var other = ua;
/* end browser checks */

@Skylly: if you enable "Advanced MDI" opera works like it did in 7.5. Minimize works, no X, mdi icons. everything.

Display bug: no text under "Today's Top Stories" http://cube.ign.com/?fromint=1

* Check documents - Always. If I visit a page I've visited before it's because I want to see if it's changed.

I've always been confused by the options:

Check Documents, Check Images, Check Other .... it seems these things overlap. I mean, if I have Check Documents set at "every 5 hours" and Check Images at "every 24 hours" and then recheck the page in 6 hours and the the page has new images, will not the Check Documents setting make for the new images appearing?