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14. November 2004, 15:51:05

radekradek

Banned user

Integrate PGP and GNUpg into M2

Right now I am using TheBat! on Windows, and KMail on Linux, both are *the best* email clients, with enormous capabilities. I could settle down for M2 usage, but, M2 does not support interface to PGP and GNUpg.

Thunderbird, TheBat! and KMail does.

Could this feature be considered? That would be lovely :-)

14. November 2004, 17:02:15

jp10558

Posts: 4163

+1, more mail clients need to support PGP/GnuPG!
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14. November 2004, 17:39:52

fractalgp

Posts: 3789

It would indeed be lovely. +1.

14. November 2004, 19:34:26

rhermans

Nonconformist Member

Posts: 129

+1

BTW, This is a very old wish...
Are we closer than the first time this topic arose?

14. November 2004, 20:39:19

andyas

Posts: 1272

+1
I'll start using M2 then.

16. November 2004, 21:13:00

gebauer

Jan Gebauer

Posts: 66

+

+1

I already use M2, but I'm REALLY missing this feature!

Jan
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24. January 2005, 17:17:45

lockoom

Posts: 836

+1
You have my vote smile

24. January 2005, 20:00:29

fascik

Posts: 799

My Mum said Yes, my dog said Yes and I say Yes for PGP :-)
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13. March 2005, 01:18:35

ming0

Posts: 6

Bump!

I really love opera, but I'm going to need something better than 'copy it from the clipboard' when it comes to reading encrypted messages...

I've already bought 2 licenses, but will not buy any more until GnuPG is supported in M2.

I will switch to Firebird/Thunderbird when the next paid upgrade cycle comes along (even tho Thunderbird sucks compared to M2 **other than the fact that it will read encrypted mail without me copying and pasting text all over the place**)

So.... vote +1 more bigeyes

27. March 2005, 19:37:25

bayleys

Posts: 7

+1

ist there now way to place a programm between M2 and the rest of the world? so this plugin could handel the PGP demand...

28. March 2005, 08:27:30

NoobSaibot

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Posts: 1443

+1

still waiting for this enhancement
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5. April 2005, 19:08:00

tgabber

Posts: 79

+1 ^10

This is something I've wanted for a long time not just for handling encrypted messages but so that email messages can be digitally-signed easily.

I last checked for this feature about a year ago and I'm disappointed that there doesn't seem to be any hint of developments yet.
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5. April 2005, 23:00:37

WildEnte

Posts: 3530

you know that 1^10 is still 1 right?

anyhow ... +1 - the more clients support it the more people will actually use it. Like myself.
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12. April 2005, 03:38:38

tmuka

Posts: 23

I too would love to see this feature request become a reality!!! winPT clipboard use gets so old!

27. May 2005, 18:59:03

crypticways

Posts: 281

+1
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27. May 2005, 22:32:07

lukefab

Posts: 1545

I've been an Opera advocate for years now. I'm using it under Mac OS X now. I'm fed up with stall issues of M2 for this version. And I really want this GPG feature, I'm considering using an independant mail client.
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28. May 2005, 06:41:37

vangrieg

Posts: 2465

the more clients support it the more people will actually use it



How about the need for it? smile Even if all e-mail clients on earth support it and 20 more, I won't use it because I just don't care if somebody reads my mail en route or not, or whether somebody forges my mails or not.

So, not being against this wish in principle, I think there are way more important things to do in M2.
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2. June 2005, 06:38:51

Juergen

Posts: 25

Originally posted by bayleys
+1

ist there now way to place a programm between M2 and the rest of the world? so this plugin could handel the PGP demand...



The new PGP 9 handles this for you. It scans all your mail traffic (like an antivirus program) an encrypts and decrypt on the fly. It does cost a bit of money though (even for personal use).

Does anyone know a software with this functionality for GPG?

Jürgen
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2. June 2005, 06:54:30

radekradek

Banned user

Originally posted by Juergen
The new PGP 9 handles this for you. It scans all your mail traffic (like an antivirus program) an encrypts and decrypt on the fly. It does cost a bit of money though (even for personal use).

Does anyone know a software with this functionality for GPG?

Jürgen



I've purchased PGP 9.0 Pro, for €69 per annum, and it is well worth it, as it not only comes with great proxy PGP implementation which is compatible with any email client, but it has Whole Disk Encryption for BOOT disks as well, which I found extremely useful.

29. July 2005, 21:42:30

nazgul77

Posts: 40

er ... +1
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29. July 2005, 21:51:14

nazgul77

Posts: 40

So .. .there are plenty of threads talking about pgp / gnupg in M2.
Somewhere i picked up that Opera folks plan integration, but nothing has
happened in years.

Well, I'd say it is time for a petition for gpg support. Anybody willing to
take the initiative?
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1. August 2005, 19:05:08

Reki

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Posts: 7

One more vote for GPG. I think it's the most important feature that M2 doesn't have. Hear our call smile

Reki

2. August 2005, 10:17:36

Jazmo

Posts: 105

Opera considers itself as a bleeding edge software. Unfortunately gpg/pgp is actually already a basic thing and opera lacks support of it. We need it soon smile I hope that when new M2 backend is launched we see support of gpg there. And i hope it's soon smile
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17. September 2005, 19:43:31

alexandrei

Posts: 6

Someone said aput PGP9, using a proxy to encrypt/sign messages, etc.
For windows, there's a program called GPG Relay, freeware, which does the same thing.

I haven't used it, just tested it a little, and it seems OK, and pretty configurable! It works with any mail client...

It's worth trying

16. November 2005, 23:13:44

w-sky

Banned user

+1

Me too me too me too!

I have once read about a PGP tool that lets you code/decode the content of any window with basically just one click. But I don't know its name and if it's really as easy as that.
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16. November 2005, 23:20:35

Schneemann

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Posts: 1136

+1
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23. November 2005, 13:52:30

wunage

Posts: 84

+1
pgp support would be fine

23. November 2005, 16:13:42

cyb

Posts: 64

+1
PGP/MIME support would indeed be great.

5. December 2005, 04:11:19

arcfide

Posts: 28

+1

In addition, for those of you who can't wait to get it working, there are a few mail relays out there which will integrate with GPG and Opera to allow you to use them together. I use a windows package for GPG called WinPT (http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~twoaday/winpt.html) Which includes GPG, an interface (icon tray), and a program called GPGRelay, which was referenced above. I have been using it for a while, and I can vouche for the relays functionality. It works well.

For those of you who do not want to pay for PGP, GPG + GPGRelay is an excellent solution on the Windows side, and I am sure there are some solutions for *NIX platforms as well.

6. January 2006, 21:20:25

X_FISH

Posts: 2

Just found this here:

GPG and PGP have license issues. One forces Opera to be GNU (who wants RSM to boss around?) and the other one forces Opera to pay royalties.



Source: Click here

So if it's not possible to include it directly into Opera, why not use technology like used in sylpheed-claws (once upon a time): Click to de- or encrypt messages.

It was possible to send the message using a gpg command and fetched the returned data.

It would be an idea - or not?

Regards, Martin

PS: +1 smile

10. February 2006, 16:29:16

SirPavlova

Posts: 67

Nah, you don't have to use one of those, you can make your own OpenPGP-compliant implementation - that's what GPG is. So it's not licensing which stops Opera supporting them; they could whip up their own if it worries them.

As for the request: +1
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11. February 2006, 00:20:04

newscpq

Connection is not an option

Posts: 951

?

I don't think there is interest in PGP from the end users at all. E-mail encryption is far from becoming familiar (unless the next outlook version supports it by default, of course...).

For me, there is no need that Opera implemented it.


For radekradek: I'm interested in encryption solutions and always had my "keyring", but I actually never used it, while you do. What is your usual behaviour ?
- do you encrypt your messages by default, or do you usually encrypt only the sensible ones ?
- how many persons receive your encrypted messages ? How many of them are business contacts ?
- how many persons don't receive encrypted messages? How many of them are business contacts ?

- on average, how many encrypted messages do you send a month, or a week ?
- on average, how many NON-encrypted messages do you send in the same timeframe ?

newscpq
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20. February 2006, 23:53:07

w-sky

Banned user

No, you are wrong, wrong, wrong!

I will even become more important, the more we get used to manage everything by email (instead of snail mail or telefax). The more cyber crimes are getting real, like phishing or identity hijacking.

Remember, sending emails is like sending postcards. They have no envelope, anybody who can get them can read them.

Opera's email client definitely needs to support PGP!
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21. February 2006, 10:31:27

Maximilian B.

Posts: 35

+1
A pity it is not implemented as I have to use thunderbird if I want to encrypt an e-mail. Happily this doesn't occure too often bigsmile.

Well, maybe when you don't have more pressing issues, please look into GPG support smile.

Max.
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26. February 2006, 11:43:14 (edited)

X_FISH

Posts: 2

Originally posted by newscpq:

?

I don't think there is interest in PGP from the end users at all. E-mail encryption is far from becoming familiar (unless the next outlook version supports it by default, of course...).

For me, there is no need that Opera implemented it.



So we don't need...

...tabbed browsing (it's not in IE 5.5.)
...a spam filter for Mails (it's not in Outlook Express)
...a popup blocker (it's not in IE 6.0 for W2K)
...the feature to stop the loading of pictures (it's not in any IE)

And we don't need a fast browser - because we hadn't one so far! wink

GnuPG ist a feature in a lot of MUAs. It's something I really want to have. Primary not for encyrption - but for signing my mail.

So still +1 for GnuPG in M2

Regards, Martin

26. February 2006, 15:14:12

voessli

Posts: 491

I think there is no need to integrate since PGP is simply to apply via Windows taskbar e.g. using the clipboard
It's just the fact that PGP has a confusing user-desktop, I still dont know what "signing a key" means and i am too lazy to look into help

27. February 2006, 17:16:47

w-sky

Banned user

Originally posted by voessli:

I think there is no need to integrate since PGP is simply to apply via Windows taskbar e.g. using the clipboard
It's just the fact that PGP has a confusing user-desktop, I still dont know what "signing a key" means [...]


That's it, the clipboard-workaround is too complicated.
At the end, there should a button on the "Compose mail" screen where I just click on and then the mail will be encrypted or signed before sending.
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27. February 2006, 17:46:38

serious

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Posts: 5313

+1
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27. February 2006, 23:14:39

profiT

Posts: 453

+1
I consider it as an only sensible "con" to M2. Using it for two last years, though.
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7. March 2006, 09:24:13

EagleNumberOne

Posts: 1

+1

using Opera for years now (for browsing) and recently for mailing (cross-platform, really nice not to have to use different tools for browsing/mailing when working on Mac, quickly reading mails at Linux or gaming at Windows).

Mail signing is simply standard in my environment (university) and that's why i would like to be able to use it inside Opera, too.

20. March 2006, 08:15:04

exhuma

Posts: 4

+1

No GPG/PGP integration is still the only reason why I don't use M2. I need to send at least half of my mails encrypted. And if not, I have the habbit to sign ALL of my mails. I've been doing that for at least 8 years now.

But I have to say, I like M2 very much. On Windows I am thinking to look into GPG-Relay that was mentioned here. If it does what it says it would, I could live well without GPG/PGP support in M2 for Windows. However I use Linux most of the time (at work). And it's there, that I need encryption, but I have not found a sensible relay/proxy solution. So I have to stick with KMail :/
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20. March 2006, 11:24:36

raducoc

Posts: 40

I think is a good to have some intimity in comunication, but BigBrother CAN decript and read all the encripted messeges you send. So, is really necesary?

20. March 2006, 11:48:50

NACK. It is not possible to decrypt a lot of encrypted messages in reasonable time with a good key length. Especially not for _all_ messages that can be captured. and we're also not (only) talking about governments or organisations, but also admins/roots and sniffers. So don't you say encryption is worthless!

23. March 2006, 17:56:33

asz

Posts: 17

+1 from me too for implementing this - I've been using Opera and M2 for years now, and PGP-encrypted mail seems to become a requirement with ever more parties I communicate with. I'd really hate to give up M2 due to lack of this feature...

28. March 2006, 00:50:36

Turin

Posts: 1279

Developers please add PGP to the mail client.
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