Time for a new Opera Logo/identity?

Time for a new Opera Logo/identity?

A conversation has started in the "What do you want to see in opera 8" thread about the Opera "O" logo. Go and see the posts if you want. This made me curious to what others might think. So I wanted to ask

What do you think of the Opera Logo/identity?
Is it time for a new logo/identity?
If you would change it, then how?
If you would not change it, why?

Re: opera v8, pt.3

Originally posted by willnight
opera v8 beta

Why is he running?

PS - love the logo.

I like the "O"

But I hate the O8 leotarded SuperDude.



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Originally posted by PKO
I think that red is a great color for the logo. Scientifically, red stands out more than any other color (or at least on a normal background it is).

Actually the eye sensitivity response curve peaks at green. In non-prissy scientist words - the human eye is most sensitive to green
Hence the image color of night-vision goggles.

Re: opera v8, pt.3

Originally posted by willnight
******

opera v8 beta

******

Does Adobe Photoshop CS on the Mac not have Save For Web? That image was pretty large.

Originally posted by muaddib2004
willnight, I love it.

glad you like it!

Welcome to the forums, if you haven't been already.

thanks.

Have you been using Opera for long, or only just recently...

i'm still trying it out, comparing opera with firefox, a good contender in my mind and it's free. so far, i have them both open and switching between them. the reasons for switching back and forth:

switch to firefox because opera:
- has no auto complete for username/password and submit fields.
- has somewhat unpredictable fonts management between user mode and author mode.
- is toolbars happy. gets confusing and cluttered.

switch to opera because firefox:
- has no mouse guesture.
- cannot full screen display.
- cannot zoom.
- has no in-deph font control.*

...because you seem very fired up about all this, and your contributions so far are astounding.

thanks again.

i'm really into it for a few reasons:

1) i'm really into it!

i like techonology in how it relates to the user: usability, user interface, user-friendly, intuitive, ergonomics, etc.---in short, practical application to life. successful applications are successful in fulfilling these user-centric criteria. opera is one of those apps.

people know. you all, you who read this forum regularly, know. without making reference to another company (coughapplecough), its products and marketing are designed and thought out so well that it has become a part of our everyday life. it has captured worldwide appeal.

opera empowers you. opera makes you feel good while you surf. opera gives you the control.

2) let's admit it: opera.com is a groupie site.

the community here is truly tight, but at the same time open! community is the key word here in the true meaning, and not just another buzz word by some marketing exec telling the audience that it is. it is more than just a word; it's an energy generated and sustained by the users and fans. i like that.

3) im a graphic designer and i see this as a "here's a problem; let's find a solution" exercise.

it is a classic corporate/brand identity problem. it has the potential to be a great product/company, recognized and loved all over the world. i see a lot of room for improvement in the current identity and marketing campaign. it is very lucid to me where opera can be (or wants to be). intuitively, i feel my perception (from what i gather about the company and about the fan) is pretty right on, but i can never know.

and 4) well... all right, i'll admit it: i'm also in it for the potential work. there. you can check out my portfolio at www.echoechoes.com.

so the people at opera, if you're reading, please give me a call.

* why are only some fonts able to load and others are not?

Nice work, willknight. I kind've figured as much (you're a designer), and the constant plugging yourself is an admirable trait in such a business. Never rest on your laurels, and you'll never be left behind. I wish you luck.

About Firefox:

In WinXP (could be different by platform), fullscreen is F11.

Originally posted by willnight
switch to firefox because opera:
- has no auto complete for username/password and submit fields.
- has somewhat unpredictable fonts management between user mode and author mode.
- is toolbars happy. gets confusing and cluttered.

switch to opera because firefox:
- has no mouse guesture.
- cannot full screen display.
- cannot zoom.
- has no in-deph font control.*

This isn't really the thread to address this, but I'll comment anyway.

Autocomplete for username+password would be Wand in Opera. Turn it on in Preferences (CTRL+F12) > Wand. Autocomplete for other fields is limited to the information entered in Preferences > Wand under Personal information.

Author mode/User mode: have you taken a look at Preferences > Advanced > Content > Style options...?

About the toolbars: it may be a bit confusing at first, but you can get very minimalistic setups if you want (examples)

willnight,

Nice logo. The concept looks familiar though. I would have to agree with YOYO about the super dude icon. The concept for this is too thin and one trick. You talked about system within the identity structure versus a fancy logo redesign but then applied a fancy logo to the web page without any integration into a larger structure. Of course, for what we are trying to do with this thread we can't really develop full brand guides.

I would fix one this about the logo. The "O" carries too much weight typographically. I would increase the weight of the remaining characters (pera) - slightly - so there is more balance overall. As it is now the word breaks after the "o".

Just my thoughts.

Okay! I couldn't resist. It's summer, and there is nothing else to occupy my time.

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/1.gif

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/2.gif

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/3.gif

Heh heh heh

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/fat.gif

Originally posted by idbeu
Heh heh heh

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/fat.gif

very nice! i think our search is finally over.

Originally posted by idbeu
Okay! I couldn't resist. It's summer, and there is nothing else to occupy my time.

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/1.gif

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/2.gif

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/3.gif

Looks nice, but uhh.... is that Europe on the right?

Wow, these red globes are wonderful, Great!!!

Originally posted by idbeu
Okay! I couldn't resist. It's summer, and there is nothing else to occupy my time.

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/1.gif

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/2.gif

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/3.gif

The globe is fantastic! However, i don't like the text color.

I like the look of the globes, too, but i don't think it really looks like our planet ^^
I also don't really know if we're supposed to be looking at the atlantic or the pacific ocean in between the two continents

maybe we'll get a new logo with v10.00

the red globe reminds me the USSR
it has too much world domination theme in it

Originally posted by Fargoth
the red globe reminds me the USSR
it has too much world domination theme in it

Heh heh. Thanks.

I did a REALLY rough outline of the Europe/Africa area. It could be more accurate, I agree. I didn't want too much detail.

This is what I'd like the new Opera logo look like when redesigned.

opera_logo_redesigned.png

Good work! I like the Opera 8 Browser one. Can you do it so the O is part of the word Opera?

Thanks Chris!

Originally posted by Chris Hester
Good work! I like the Opera 8 Browser one. Can you do it so the O is part of the word Opera?

Yes, I thought of something like that but I don't really like it: I think that the Opera logo should have a "typo" part (the words Opera software) and a "graphical" part (the O with or without the shadow depending on the use) so both of them can be used together, or independently (the O would then be used as an icon for example...).

Anyway, here it is...

o_pera.png

I take it the kerning is a problem if the O and the p don't overlap? I'm not keen on the white space you've introduced that cuts into the O. Great choice of typeface though!

The typeface is RotisSansSerif.

What about this possibility?

o_pera2.png

My go...

1opera.png

Another go...

opera2.png

The "O" you added isn't on the same baseline as the "pera". (see attach.).
Also, all the letters in the used font are higher than lager, but the "O" is square. There is a gently mismatch between the O and the rest.

chris_opera.png

That was deliberate. I matched the O to the top and bottom of the p.

yeah i found it pretty obvious the O was supposed to be misaligned.

momo2, i very much like this icon you have created.

opera.png

Slightly redesigned...

[img]http://webuser.fh-furtwangen.de/~sucke/_stuff/o.jpg

Specular reflection highlight is now on-axis and goes to upper right direction -> progress, future

for my part, i still do preffer the shape of the actual O. I would just get rid of the old-fashioned bevel and let just a full red O

just like this one without the shadow.

[url]https://www.softwarehouse.de/icons/opera/opera_logo.gif

Originally posted by Anon
momo2, i very much like this icon you have created.

It looks like the leaning tower of Pisa

Originally posted by Anon
momo2, i very much like this icon you have created.

Thanks!!!

momo: simple, clean, and an the O is an definite improvement over the horrid romantic thing we have at present. Even the text font is less heavy than the current font. The italic gives me the sense of movement, better than a fat static O suggested by others.

dantist: one of my critiques of the crappy 3D logo is killed, well done (and the light source is more consistent)! But there are still all the other defects left, so I still implore its immediate removal to logo purgatory!

I like the current logo. I think it's very attractive. It looks really nice compared to the dumb Firefox logo I see at the bottom of my screen (what is that called, the taskbar?)

Don't mess with a good thing.

Where did the files I attached go? Are they lost after the redesign of the forum?

The current logo is just fine, very elegant. But for the love of all that's holy please lose the guy in tights.

Originally posted by Americain:

The current logo is just fine, very elegant. But for the love of all that's holy please lose the guy in tights.

Yeah, never really understood why they used that guy. He may be cool for a little discussion around the My Opera community, but kind of strange to a person who sees him for the first time.

Originally posted by idbeu:

Okay! I couldn't resist. It's summer, and there is nothing else to occupy my time.

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/1.gif

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/2.gif

[img]http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/3.gif

dude that's ill. +1

From all posted i choose...
http://my.opera.com/Jabryl/homes/files/old_forum_import/operaicon.png
http://my.opera.com/Aedan/homes/files/old_forum_import/icon.jpg
http://www.jmbeck.com/files/opera/2.gif
http://my.opera.com/momo2/homes/files/old_forum_import/opera_logo_redesigned.png

But the first one (two links)... is... amazing!

Humming Along
( 370 x 260 32bit transparent PNG - 74kbytes )


.... someone way back in earlier pages suggested a Hummingbird.

Humming Along II
[ 325 x 378 / 32bit transparent (non-progressive) PNG - 105 kbytes ]

Oh yeah, and This One. - hehe.
..... hmmm, where have I seen that before?

What Exactly Is Wrong With The Opera "O"??? Not Trying To Stop You Guys Cause What You Guys Have Come Up With Is Cool, But The O Is What Users Look For!!! It Stands For Speed, Efficiency, Effectivity, And Provides A Safe Way To Browse The Internet... But Yes I Do Agree With The Comment About Getting Rid Of The Guy In The Tights... -_- Replace Him With The HummingBird...

Quoting my post on another topic:

Originally posted by SerbianFighter:

Hi all...
I have been Opera user for quite a while.. Few years.. anyway... I think that all things Opera management did last few months, improving website and browser features and of course making it free is great (maybe came late though, but better late than never).. however, what i dislike is the fact that opera still has the same logo...

Take a look: Opera Logo

Opera will always be know as "the big O" but... does it have to look like that?

For example.. take a look at this:
First Google logo: Google in 1998
Now used Google logo: Google in 2005

Be honest to yourself.. if this wasn't Opera's logo, and if don't spend 10 hours daily interacting with Opera.. would you like it? If you see that on desktop, next to it FF or IE and have no idea what is each of those.. which one would you click?

I believe that logo should be modernized... the concept should stay of course, but it should look different..

What is your oppinion?

I am happy with the Opera logo as it is now. Nothing wrong with it.

Originally posted by Message.Man:

What Exactly Is Wrong With The Opera "O"?

The answer is in one of the earliest posts in this thread. See http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=769653

Originally posted by non-troppo:

1) Notice the specular reflection (shine) is really wonky and off axis - from a materials perspective this suggests the structure has been dented or smashed, and thus the two main flanks of the O cause different reflections. Opera's icon looks like it has been beaten up! Notice how the left side of the O looks "thicker" (check the edges), as if the right side has been flattened or stepped on.

I looks different in this image on an envelope I received from Opera ASA.

Opera logo vs Opera logo.

Ha! They've also fixed the buckling on the inner-left edge and some of the physics-defying highlights in the shadow… It still looks ugly though