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Tuesday, 19. April 2005, 20:31:00

calande

An Opera Veteran

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Affiliate program

Jeez.... I just saw Opera has just started an affiliate program like the spreadfirefox program! This is so good!!

I was already working on it in PHP/MySQL, and I just saw it on Opera! I think there's no point continuing as is seems to be working just fine on Opera's web site :happy:

Oh well, I guess this is a killing idea because we'll see Opera banner ads everywhere on the Internet from now on. This was the problem that is now being solved: communication and marketing.

Congratulations Opera!!

PS: Haavard, now I understand why you closed my thread :lol:

Thursday, 21. April 2005, 02:36:24

Skit

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freo.wa.au

Certianly a good move. When I heard about SpreadFirefox the first thing I did was hunt for the Opera equivelent.

Hopefully the Affliliate program will grow and offer more 'prizes' in the future. It can only be good. Lets face it, it's cheap marketing for Opera.
1000's of banner splash a month for say an iPod?

Thursday, 21. April 2005, 08:30:46

EivindFS

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The Affiliate program seems to be a big hit already. Almost 1000 affiliates in 48 hours - now that's pretty good. Let's ensure that Opera gets to the masses! Yay :smile:

Thursday, 21. April 2005, 10:28:22

Moose

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Originally posted by EivindFS
The Affiliate program seems to be a big hit already. Almost 1000 affiliates in 48 hours - now that's pretty good. Let's ensure that Opera gets to the masses! Yay :smile:



Hmm... I found referrals to my site from the affiliates page, and I swear to tundra thorns that I never glued any affiliate appendage anywhere...

M.

Thursday, 21. April 2005, 11:14:41

andyas

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Poland

-- Link removed per request --

Thursday, 21. April 2005, 18:05:04

I placed a link in every forum signature I have! It's great to see that it has effect and that people actually click on it :D

Thursday, 21. April 2005, 21:08:09

waceq

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Poland

I have more than 370 click so far, and no e-mail with reg codes. Why??

Thursday, 21. April 2005, 21:21:11

calande

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France

Originally posted by waceq
I have more than 370 click so far, and no e-mail with reg codes. Why??



I think this week and this month, we have to bear with Opera's success! This is good, but with subscriptions, regular work, development, maintainance, affiliate programs, etc... Maybe the Opera staff is really busy! :happy:

Friday, 22. April 2005, 11:01:54

calande

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Originally posted by waceq
got e-mail :smile: :D :lol: :yes:



Once you get more than one licence key, will you give them away for friends/colleagues?

Friday, 22. April 2005, 13:31:24

MARINAKX

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i dont think they will send more keys....

"As an appreciation of your efforts, you will receive a registration code for Opera 8 automatically once 250 unique referrals from your site have been logged." "once" not everytime....


I asked one with 2300 klick lets see...
[url]http://www.averse.piasta.pl/forums/index.php?showtopic=148&st=0&p=514&#entry514

"They sent me a key(s) yesterday. It's about 7 serials, diffrent for diffrent operating systems."



thats wired when they say:

One license is valid for Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP,
Mac, Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, OS/2 and Psion.


so now i dont know if i will be able to use my key for linux too.... (and the key should by for the whole houshold like they told earlier...)

Interesting that people from poland are on the first places [url]http://my.opera.com/community/affiliates/?page=1

Friday, 22. April 2005, 15:55:06

Sigup

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Why wouldn't they send more keys?

A key is what you enter into the program to registere it. A license is not the same thing as a key. The license explains the terms under which you use the software. Since one license covers all desktop platforms, you get one key for each platform. But they are all covered in a single license.

Friday, 22. April 2005, 20:20:56

thesquire

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Silly question: where can I check how many people clicked on my link? And is a forum username enough for this?

Friday, 22. April 2005, 21:20:38

Mayor

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Ireland

three days left since I reached 250 limit.... and NO MAIL FROM OPERA HAS BEEN SENT to me (at least none has been recieved by me)

I wrote about it to OS through form on page [url]http://www.opera.com/contact/support/?help=registration and I recieved auto-reply with link to this site
[url]https://support.opera.no/bin/customer
and with temporary username and pass but no code, no license, nothing

what happened?

Friday, 22. April 2005, 22:09:42

TreeGo

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USA

Originally posted by Mayor
three days left since I reached 250 limit.... and NO MAIL FROM OPERA HAS BEEN SENT to me (at least none has been recieved by me)

I wrote about it to OS through form on page [url]http://www.opera.com/contact/support/?help=registration and I recieved auto-reply with link to this site
[url]https://support.opera.no/bin/customer
and with temporary username and pass but no code, no license, nothing

what happened?



Hmmmm.... :eyes:

Friday, 22. April 2005, 22:11:37

Sigup

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Chill out dude. You are getting a free license. Maybe they are sent out in batches or something.

Sunday, 24. April 2005, 18:59:49

loki7777

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I have 260 and nothing happend.So the same problem here(i was waiting for 24h)

Sunday, 24. April 2005, 19:03:29

loki7777

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No to po Polsku, ja tez nie dostalem:(

Sunday, 24. April 2005, 19:03:38

haavard

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Norway

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Note that cheaters may not be pleasantly surprised by what's coming for them... :wink: Not that I'm implying that anyone posting here is cheating, of course!

I don't know how the licenses are sent. It could be, as suggested, that they have to be verified by a real person before going out.

Sunday, 24. April 2005, 19:27:53

Mayor

consensus census

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Ireland

4 days elapsed since I reached 250 and still no response from OS...

I spoke to my local mods but it seems I have to hit the boss finally :wink:
other moderator discovered that there are two Mayors in forum database

Mayor 1 (me)

Mayor 2 (New Member, btw. yesterday there was written "Mayor" too)

the second non-existing Mayor was related to non-existed people on forum (see "Find all post by Mayor" link)
all of them has following profile:


<nickname>
Guest

Registered: Not Yet
Location:
Posts: N/A
Status:



I suppose that mail which supposed to be send to me, has been sent to one of those guys, I don't know, but it was surely some error in database

can someone fix it?

Monday, 25. April 2005, 14:52:27

CarLBanks

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I'm anxiously awaiting my 250 clicks. I definately think Opera did a great move with this program. I've been waiting since Wednesday and I'm now at 200. Patience works wonders!

Cheating is wrong and plus I like the idea of telling people about Opera. When I get my license I'll know I legally got it.

Monday, 25. April 2005, 15:11:19

scipio

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Originally posted by andyas
http://my.opera.com/andyas/affiliate/
:D

Cheater! :lol:

Monday, 25. April 2005, 16:52:56

3st

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I do not understand why i was kicked from the top list of the aff. programm. Only because my brother and me had Banners on the same Page??? Alright, when this is cheating i would like to have a list of things you are not allowed to do. (BTW: I already had 250 clicks on saturday (i have my licence already) and i started making more hits just today (aproxx 800 today).

Monday, 25. April 2005, 16:59:26

stephan

Opera IS Manager

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United Kingdom

3st -- will look into this and come back with an explanation.

Monday, 25. April 2005, 17:08:34

stephan

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United Kingdom

This is due to referrals coming from a forum where we registered one of these behaviours:
- Image with source set to my.opera.com/username/affiliate/
- Links in signature
- Pop-unders

Now, to be fair, I'll set you back into non-cheater mode, as noone seems to recall why exactly you were disabled (probably automated).

You will be disabled again if we detect any bad behaviour, though.
Note the rules are (simply put, from the front page) "Add an Opera button or banner to your website and get a free Opera license.".

Monday, 25. April 2005, 17:10:26

stephan

Opera IS Manager

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United Kingdom

Originally posted by scipio
Cheater! :lol:



Actually, links from the forum would trigger the cheat detection, but we don't activate till you've cheated a bit...

Monday, 25. April 2005, 17:13:30

3st

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Thx. Would it be possible to set my brother to non-cheater mode also? His Account-name is "darki".

Monday, 25. April 2005, 17:20:52

stephan

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Oh, and by the way, we look up some of the referers to make sure that these carry valid links. You could potentially get marked as "cheater" if you link from a site that is in the list of ill behavers. Send me a PM if you feel you're not treated correctly, and I'll look it up.

Monday, 25. April 2005, 17:28:28

CarLBanks

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So we're not allowed to make a post on a forum telling people about Opera and link to one of the banners?

Monday, 25. April 2005, 17:52:35

Zajec

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Poland

stephan napisał(a)
- Image with source set to my.opera.com/username/affiliate/

Except Opera banners, You mean?


stephan napisał(a)
- Links in signature

Khem? I can't place link in signature on my favourite forum? (I don't think about my.opera.com of course)

Monday, 25. April 2005, 18:03:48

Construct

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I got 300+ legit the last time I checked the list but got deleted since I frequent a website where cheating was happening. Yipeee. :irked: Well atleast I got my license over 24 hours before I was kicked off the list as a cheater.

Monday, 25. April 2005, 18:18:37

Jakub81

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Is Opera banner in my siganture in *other* forums OK?

I have the license already, and I have had Opera banners in my signatures in some other forums before.
I joined the affiliate program only to check how many people click it ( second license would be nice, though - for my sister :D )

Monday, 25. April 2005, 18:25:36

CarLBanks

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So at 250+ if you put it in your signature on another forum and your site or in your own post on another forum talking about Opera then your Affiliate account gets deleted?

Monday, 25. April 2005, 18:28:34

stephan

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Listen, you can have your links in signatures without that being a problem. I wasn't being accurate enough here.

- Image with source set to my.opera.com/username/affiliate/

That is <img src="http://my.opera.com/stephan/affiliate/">, for example. The LINK should go there, NOT the image

- Links in signature

Forget about that one. We've never enforced it anyway, and I don't think we will.

- Pop-unders

Obvious.

It's really about AUTOMATICALLY loading the affiliate link without the user's approval. We have to limit what we allow in order to keep the competition fair.

There are a few cheaters, so we need to do this in order to handle them. We may also introduce other measures, but this is ONLY to avoid 1x1 pixel iframes and other techniques that don't really promote Opera. We want those of you that really promote us to benefit, not some people that don't bother putting a banner or a link up but instead choose ways of attaining their clicks that don't support us at all, and in some cases hurt our image.

We evaluate on a case by case basis, but some sites are blocked, meaning you will get cheat points for linking from them. Enough cheat points, and you're a cheater. If you feel this is unfair in your case, you are welcome to send me a message, and I'll look at it.

This is not an invitation to cheaters -- if we mark you as a non-cheater, we will pay close attention to what you do.

All this being said, we REALLY appreciate the work you all are doing to promote us. We do not want people annoyed at us.

But we do feel the users that are doing a great job for us should be promoted on our pages instead of those that try to automate themselves to the top.

Monday, 25. April 2005, 18:29:31

stephan

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Also, no accounts get deleted. They're just simply not listed. So there's nothing we can't revert if something should go wrong. The counters are still on, even (as you may notice from the Top 10 Cheaters list).

Monday, 25. April 2005, 18:34:04

stephan

Opera IS Manager

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Oh, and my.opera.com now does NOT give cheat points, but is simply ignored (no clicks counted).

Sorry about it creating cheat points earlier, but too many people were trying to create loops of various kinds for us to not do this.

Monday, 25. April 2005, 18:35:33

CarLBanks

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Thanks Stephan, since I don't cheat and I'm glad that posting in signatures and in my own posts telling people about Opera 8 on other sites isn't cheating.

Monday, 25. April 2005, 18:44:16

andyas

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Poland

Originally posted by andyas
http://my.opera.com/andyas/affiliate/
:D


Can a moderator delete this (my) post?
Are we allowed to insert links / images from [url]http://my.opera.com/community/gfx/banners/ linking to affiliate program in other (non-opera ) forums' signatures?

Monday, 25. April 2005, 18:47:59

ramoeg

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Dear Stephan. I would like to ask you to revert my account, if possible. I admit I have tried to speed things up a bit a have placed one parallel link apart my original site. So, if possible deduct those fake links or zero my account and I shall start to gather the points from there.
Thank you kindly.

Monday, 25. April 2005, 18:48:28

stephan

Opera IS Manager

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United Kingdom

Originally posted by Construct
I got 300+ legit the last time I checked the list but got deleted since I frequent a website where cheating was happening. Yipeee. :irked: Well atleast I got my license over 24 hours before I was kicked off the list as a cheater.



I checked your account.

The problem is the post (in the thread you started) where they list all the different links and more or less tell people to click on them till the quota is met. That's cheating . No question about it.

I'd agree that you're not a cheater from what I see there -- people just clicked a lot on your image :wink:

So what I'll do now is find some way to take you off the cheaters list... Done.

See, I'm a nice guy to people that play nice.

Monday, 25. April 2005, 18:54:45

stephan

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Originally posted by geomar
Dear Stephan. I would like to ask you to revert my account, if possible. I admit I have tried to speed things up a bit a have placed one parallel link apart my original site. So, if possible deduct those fake links or zero my account and I shall start to gather the points from there.
Thank you kindly.



Deducted 100 hits and set to non-cheat.

You can tell the other guys (if you know them) at
[url]http://hqparadise.hu/opera/index.php

That we automatically will set them to cheaters. That applies to you as well, if you can't get rid of your link :frown:

Sorry, but we can't allow pages like that.

Monday, 25. April 2005, 19:01:43

ramoeg

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Thx. I didn't even know I was there.:frown:
I'll send them an email.
Is it possible to change my account name so that links from there do not rule me out?

Monday, 25. April 2005, 19:01:58

stephan

Opera IS Manager

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Originally posted by andyas
Can a moderater delete this (my) post?
Are we allowed to insert links / images from [url]http://my.opera.com/community/gfx/banners/ linking to affiliate program in other (non-opera ) forums' signatures?



Link removed :smile:

It's OK to promote Opera anywhere, but you should know that organized lists of clickable links that all happen to go to the affiliate pages will be censored, and may lead to the server it's on to produce cheat points for you rather than visits. Enough cheat points and you'll be regarded as a cheater.

As long as you play fair, you can always just send me a message if that should happen, though. Can't promise to respond at once, though.

Monday, 25. April 2005, 19:02:39

Zajec

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Poland

OK, quite everything is clear now :-) Last question: what about click without referrer header? My friend uriel_septim created an account on my.opera.com and gave a link to many persons on IM. Actually he has only 4 points despite that he interested much more people. Could You check this, please?

Monday, 25. April 2005, 19:05:20

andyas

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Poland

Originally posted by stephan
Link removed :smile:

It's OK to promote Opera anywhere, but you should know that organized lists of clickable links that all happen to go to the affiliate pages will be censored, and may lead to the server it's on to produce cheat points for you rather than visits. Enough cheat points and you'll be regarded as a cheater.

As long as you play fair, you can always just send me a message if that should happen, though. Can't promise to respond at once, though.


Thx,

Monday, 25. April 2005, 19:08:32

stephan

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Originally posted by Zajec
OK, quite everything is clear now :-) Last question: what about click without referrer header? My friend uriel_septim created an account on my.opera.com and gave a link to many persons on IM. Actually he has only 4 points despite that he interested much more people. Could You check this, please?



This is true. We require referrers. It's a Web campaign, although I see your point.

Monday, 25. April 2005, 19:10:38

stephan

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United Kingdom

Originally posted by geomar
Thx. I didn't even know I was there.:frown:
I'll send them an email.
Is it possible to change my account name so that links from there do not rule me out?



OK, you could change your account name. Just let me know what to change it to :wink:
I'll only be here for about 20 more minutes, though, it's already 9.10pm here...

Monday, 25. April 2005, 19:13:07

CarLBanks

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I sent you a PM Stephan to check my account to make sure no one repeatedly clicked my banner. I don't want it to be ruled out at 250.

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