Opera does not complete to load the webpage

Opera does not complete to load the webpage

Hello, many times Opera does not terminate to load the webpage and shows the number of pending elements as you can see in the image. Net settings are as default. I also tried different but nothing changes. This does not happen all the time but frequently.

Do you know what can I do?. Thanks.


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Version
11.01

Build
1190

Platform
Win32

System
Windows XP

@janusz
First of all congratulations, I renamed my hosts file and that works for me too, looks like you solved a long time mystery. The strange thing is that I use my urlfilter.ini for add and script blocking and the hosts file to block a few apps from phoning home plus two sites that the ini couldn't block. I am sure I don't block anything on allmusic.com but only after disabling the hosts file does it load properly.
Maybe a bit early to call this a bug in Opera, it could also be my Windos 7 playing tricks, very curious about other peoples experiences!

Thanks janusz. Bad news for me, I use both the hosts file and Opera block content. I have to read and check, but from the other reports here it is the hosts file. I don´t want to get rid of my hosts file with many killed urls there.

Allmusic maybe a bad example but today with my hosts file active it fully loads so I am sure nothing is blocked there. There must be another factor, let's call it 'network conditions'. Question is: did renaming the hosts file improve 'network conditions' or was it simply a lucky moment where conditions improved at the time I crippled the hosts file? Fact is that yesterday many sites were 'stalling' until I renamed the hosts file -I then visited some 15 suspects in my bookmarks and all loaded fine, and much faster too.
Nice job for the weekend: going to make a folder with usual suspects and test if the hosts file really makes a difference.

Just aa minute ago I had so many failed loaded pages that I had to restart Opera and then this page loaded ok. Strange if it is the hosts file.

gdveggie --

"No, I'm not using a Hosts file at all...."

YES! My original suggestion. Definitely no n-1 problems. However, since I've been able use host files. I did not like the idea of not having a hosts file since it has great advantages. No problem using hosts file per upstream comments.

"I can't see any reason a reboot should be necessary. From my understanding, it seems at most, clearing the cache, maybe deleting all private data (?), and restarting Opera should be sufficient. So this puzzles me."

True. I have puzzled over this one also. I can't tell you the times I cleared the private data without any help. Restarts work...rarely. Reboots work almost always. Of course, I did this with several sites open; I never restarted with no existing sites open (no tabs). I can only guess that that Opera, as an app, loads clean in Windows and that somehow there is something that effects the way pages are rendered for that session. I simply do not know why that helps. How many times has it been suggested for many apps to reboot...even Windows? Maybe it's like a slot-machine - the marbles go in different slots until a new game (reboot). I suppose one could install Opera in Sandboxie (great app; run programs in a virtual sandbox environment without writing to the hard drive) to determine what is loaded and where. I leave that for others to pursue.

UPDATE: Reboots flushes the DNS Cache! See post below: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=8798541

Given that one has hosts files, usually, when a site page is rendered and no response is received from ad server (times out), an error message is loaded (site not found, etc.) or it is simply skipped (block works) and the page loads. For some reason, sometimes Opera waits for the response (no timeout). When Opera is rebooted, it seems to somehow get pass the waiting and moves on, so to speak. However, with Opera some ads just stalls the loading, period. It's lookin' for love in the wrong places (apologies to Waylon Jennings). The solution is to either 1) use something like HostServer to provide that 'love' in the form of a one pixel image. If that does not work, then delete the offending entry in the hosts file.

My only hypothesis (i.e., wild a-- guess), in simple layman's words, is that when scripts requests ads from servers -- and they are blocked by hosts file or content blocker -- nothing is received, it waits (sometimes) for something from the server. That is why I use HostServer -- it provides something to fill that request, a one pixel transparent image. So, until someone explains it I'm stickin' with this as the explanation. Otherwise, I choose to let the mystery be as Iris Dement sang in her song.

"Ever since I started using Opera, I always install each new version to its own folder"

That is the best solution! Opera's automatic version updates should do that automatically.

"You mentioned this CSS file...."

Sorry, I was not clear. This has nothing to do with Opera; it is Cablenut. "You can optimize Win XP TCP/IP internet connection with Cablenut (http://www.cablenut.com/); I have custom Win XP css file (if you like a copy, send me email address or whatever). I never leave home without it!"

As far as blocking some parts of web pages in content blocker, it should not cause a problem -- in most cases. Want to experience n-1 stalls? Add hosts file (MVSP hosts file) and then surf. Most pages load okay; a few do not. Definitely cause-effect. I tested this on my other machine also. Easy to duplicate. I did it with my laptop also. However, this is not to say the hosts files are THE cause because anything that blocks sites (see my earlier comments) can cause it. Some ISP block certain sites also.

Still no n-1 load stalls here and its been about a week or more.

Ummm.

j

Originally posted by janusz:

If you do not use content blocker or hosts file and you still get partial loading, look for other blocking sources (like blocks on OpenDNS, router, family site blockers, etc.). Use either hosts file or Opera content blocker but not both for ads -- I found that it could cause conflicts.

In my experience, if I use the hosts file only, then Opera will pause loading because of the DNS failure from the hosts file. If I block the URI in Opera's Content Blocker, then the webpage will load completely. So for me, if I use hosts to force DNS failure, Opera will pause loading on the element and wait indefinitely for the domain to resolve, which will not resolve because it has been blocked in hosts, but if I then add the URI to the Content Blocker, then Opera knows that it should not bother loading from that URL, so it loads the webpage completely.

Originally posted by janusz:

But it is not perfect. Some things, when blocked, causes these Opera (n-1) hang problems. I think this is exclusive to Opera and the way it renders pages sequentially. Counters? It is not only counters but could be most anything that is blocked.

Why not all blocked sources? I think it is a function of the script, the web page design + the way Opera "reads" the page. So, you can use hosts file that blocks 9 ads, etc. on a site but one hangs the loading (n-1). Just remove the offending block from the hosts file, learn patience, put up with the advertisement, and live long and happily thereafter with your screamin' Opera.

Yes, I have only noticed this problem in Opera. It is very annoying that Opera has trouble with the hosts file. I think if Opera encounters a DNS failure on a URL, then Opera should continue loading other elements on the webpage, not just wait indefinitely.

By the way, my hosts file is 1.89 MB.

Originally posted by janusz:

"I can't see any reason a reboot should be necessary. From my understanding, it seems at most, clearing the cache, maybe deleting all private data (?), and restarting Opera should be sufficient. So this puzzles me."

True. I have puzzled over this one also. I can't tell you the times I cleared the private data without any help. Restarts work...rarely. Reboots work almost always. Of course, I did this with several sites open; I never restarted with no existing sites open (no tabs). I can only guess that that Opera, as an app, loads clean in Windows and that somehow there is something that effects the way pages are rendered for that session. I simply do not know why that helps. How many times has it been suggested for many apps to reboot...even Windows? Maybe it's like a slot-machine - the marbles go in different slots until a new game (reboot). I suppose one could install Opera in Sandboxie (great app; run programs in a virtual sandbox environment without writing to the hard drive) to determine what is loaded and where. I leave that for others to pursue.

You may be correct, but I am having a different but related issue at one forum I frequent. For some reason, sometimes that particular forum's pages will take several minutes to load and other times they load in a few seconds. This is when I am using my cellular WWAN card. I have come to the tentative conclusion that the IP address I connect to is the culprit. A reboot will automatically reconnect using a different IP address (of course I can accomplish the same thing with a disconnect/reconnect of the connection), so sometimes this fixes the very slow page loading time of that forum. I have noticed no problem with IP addresses 32.176.xxx.xxx, but oftentimes have problems with IP addresses 166.183.xxx.xxx. Note that other web pages and forums load normally with either IP address. The offending forum happens to be the carrier's forum for my cellular WWAN service!

EDIT: BTW, I am using the openDNS DNS servers, so I don't think this is a DNS issue.

What if my DNS Client service is disabled on Windows Vista? I disabled it because it makes browsing very slow with a large hosts file.

Originally posted by janusz:

Yes, it is likely that the DNS Client cache a role in the n-1 stalls. Here is the optimal solution for WINDOW XP:

Negative responses are another story. I often encounter Web sites that do not respond immediately but which are available after a short wait and a retry. A wait of five minutes would be neither convenient nor necessary. I see no reason to store negative responses in the DNS cache and I have tweaked my own Registry to prevent them from being entered. In this case create a binary entry for the above Registry key and name it NegativeCacheTime. Set the value to "0" (zero). If you prefer to keep the negative responses, but with a shorter TTL, enter the appropriate number of seconds. The default TTL is 300 seconds.

Interesting. Perhaps my IP address theory is just part of another problem.

I Googled the solution for Windows 7 and came across the following: http://www.speedguide.net/articles/windows-2kxp---more-tweaks-158
This conflicts with the link you posted. Which is correct I wonder?

MaxNegativeCacheTtl=0 (DWORD, default value: 0x12C (300 seconds), range: 0x0–0xFFFFFFFF seconds) Description: Determines how long an entry recording a negative answer to a query remains in the DNS cache. When the time specified in the value of this entry expires, the DNS client deletes the answer record from cache. This is a Windows XP and 2003 Server setting only, the Windows 2000 equivalent is NegativeCacheTime.

NegativeCacheTime=0 (DWORD, default value: 0x12C (300 seconds), range: 0x0–0xFFFFFFFF seconds) Description: Determines how long an entry recording a negative answer to a query remains in the DNS cache. When the time specified in the value of this entry expires, the DNS client deletes the answer record from cache. This is a Windows 2000/2008/Vista/Windows 7 setting, for Windows XP/2003 please use MaxNegativeCacheTtl instead.

Whih is the path to urlfilter.ini?
My Opera directory in about:opera is
Opera directory
C:\folders\Opera\profile

But if I put the file there it does not block websites.

Originally posted by sibelius:

Whih is the path to urlfilter.ini?
My Opera directory in about:opera is
Opera directory
C:\folders\Opera\profile

But if I put the file there it does not block websites.

By default, in Windows, it would be %APPDATA%\Opera\Opera.

In your case, it would be C:\folders\Opera\.

SUMMARY:

* Clean installation; install in separate folder (i.e., Opera 11.01)
* No blocked content; no ad blockers, etc.
* Disable/delete hosts file.
* Delete all Private Data (Tools).
* Restart to Flush DNS Cache. Or, Command Prompt and type: ipconfig /flushdns (press Enter). If LAN, may need to refresh/restart router.
    Alternatively, make registry edit:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Dnscache\Parameters

MaxCacheTtl (DWORD) Data value: 86400 (default value; 24 hours)
MaxNegativeCacheTtl (DWORD) Data value: 0 (no reason to store negative responses)
QueryIpMatching (DWORD) Data value: 1 (Create this DWORD entry; disables responses from sites that you never asked for)
See: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=8798191

* Auto update set to notify when updates available (to be able to install in separate folder)

Optional (may help):
* Enabled plug-ins on demand
* Set memory cache to fixed value: 400MB; empty on exit
* Application cache=yes
* Some user javascripts can cause conflict when Opera upgraded
* If you want to use hosts file(I do!): recommend MVPS hosts files and HostsMan w/HostServer
Hosts file may still need to be modified to remove problem ad urls for some sites.

The n-1 incomplete loads drove me nuts. I stumble upon the above. Works. At least, this has worked for me...now over a week and absolutely no n-1 load stalls.
j

Yes I used about:opera ans the path is c:\folders\opera\profile
I created a urlfilter.ini there and It does not work

I don´t have a Networka path in about:opera

I never though this problem will derive in a mega thread. I have to read the lasts posts. Thanks

You don't need a DNS Cache on windows, its a waste of time, just turn it off.

You just need a DHCP Client running to connect to the ISP and a Hosts file can cause a host of problems (pun intended) by blocking too many sites and getting a blank page.

look at my blog if you want some ideas

http://my.opera.com/hobbler/blog/ethernet-settings

Still I find not using a Hosts file is much better overall and opting out of cookies is a better way.

Better is changing the Windows "service provider" in the registry greatly improves speed more than anything since it affects system wide.
Microsoft has never lowered them over the years.

I think page hanging is more some dumb 3rd party ad server than anything else causing problems with Opera, since most sites won't even allow a "non-standard" browser. a lot of them have never heard of Opera.

Originally posted by hobbler:

I think page hanging is more some dumb 3rd party ad server than anything else causing problems with Opera, since most sites won't even allow a "non-standard" browser. a lot of them have never heard of Opera.

Ummm. Actually, it doesn't make a difference if you mask as IE or FF or leave it Opera. It worked in previous version, so why now? Why with versions 10.xx and 11.xx? Version 9.xx screams through the sites without any hesitation (w/hosts file). No, don't think we can put this off on crappy ad servers UNLESS...there is some kind of conspiracy among those wild and crazy ad script writers. But, but, Opera 9.64 works just fine. Or UNLESS previous versions from Opera 9.xx on back were not so discerning about standards as proclaimed? Naw, something has changed with the latest versions. Even Opera's own content blocker can be part of the n-1 page mess.

I've corrected my Opera 11.01. It works fine. However, someone (don't recall the thread) mentioned it seemed to be related to having x number of open sites/tabs. I have 23 open now; no problemo. I have not tested it but perhaps there is a number where loading of multiple sites simultaneously (does it?) may cause rendering problems. Dunno.

Originally posted by janusz:

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Ummm. Actually, it doesn't make a difference if you mask as IE or FF or leave it Opera. It worked in previous version, so why now? Why with versions 10.xx and 11.xx?

yeah I think it comes down to each persons set up and PC O/S.
Some sites block older versions agent string.
you can check what the user agent Opera uses, they have different ones with each version. Change it and refresh the page to see the next ID string.

www.whatsmyuseragent.com

Originally posted by janusz:

I suspect GomJabbar may be experiencing the upsteam stuff, i.e., router or spotty, irregular ISP DNS server. OpenDNS is far superior than local DNS servers, IMHO. Of course, one could install a personal DNS Server on their comuter such as TreeWalk DNS but this is usually not necessary unless one wants to access non-standard domains (i.e., biz, corp, web, etc). I've played with this several times over the years. It has been continuously improved and has nice add-ons. It's free. However, if you just want reliable DNS server, OpenDNS is the way to go.

I have been using openDNS for several years. I also have been using the MVPS HOSTS file for awhile. I find the MVPS HOSTS file speeds things up for me.
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Originally posted by janusz:

sibelius--

I don´t have a Networka path in about:opera

Not "about:opera" but "opera:config."

Type in address bar: opera:config
NO space between : and c

Ok sorry.

I have
URL Filter File C:\folders\Opera\profile\filter.ini

maybe this file is named incorrectly? It has the same structure of an urlfilter.ini

I will delete and replace it.

I am using FF to post this. I ccould not load the forum in O.

Originally posted by hobbler:

yeah I think it comes down to each persons set up and PC O/S.
Some sites block older versions agent string.

Sorry, I don't buy that as the cause of the n-1 issue unless Opera is just a house of cards. Has this been tested and found to be a contributing factor or a guess? I understand that some sites don't accept Opera so we have to fake it. But this is not a user agent issue at all. It is not a problem of a site not loading but sites that load, up to n-1 elements (and never time out). Strange as it may be I even Opera forum site n-1 loading at one time -- on two desktops, one laptop! (See sibelius' post above: "I am using FF to post this. I ccould not load the forum in O.") Is Opera so broken so as to have a user agent break it? Geeez. I do not believe that to be an accurate attribution to the n-1 incomplete loadings.

If it all depends on an individual's setup -- and versions 9.xx worked and now versions 10.xx. and 11.xx fail to load -- then is Opera so delicate and unreliable that is a house of cards? I have never had a problem even close to this with IE or FF. No, there's other issues here related to how scripts are read.

As for Opera being standard compliant so much so as not to load these sites is the perfect market share formula for IE, FF, etc. because they work -- with hosts files! Unfortunately, sometimes the standards thing is suggested as an ubiquitous reason, like many tech services telling customers to reinstall or reboot when they have no clue. I recall way back many years ago when all these 'conversations' were on newsgroup and this was discussed ad infinitum. It is one thing to follow standards but the average person doesn't give a flyin' hoot owl's hoot about standards, just what they can access and can see/use - reliably. Or, maybe, just maybe there are folk who are pleased when a site doesn't load completely and say, "Hey, look at this! Opera is strictly compliant! Good news that the loading has stalled and I can't access the Opera forum." If a person needs to check his bank account records and the Opera browser hangs with n-1 elements loaded, how long would that person be expected to continue using Opera? Without so much as giving a microsecond thought to standards, user agents, etc., that person will go with what works reliably.

I am about to cry! I think I fixed it by replacing an old opera\profile\filter.ini with a new urlfilter.ini.

I can load the page in the pic in the first post.

Keep fingers crossed.

I still have t see what is the problem in my Opera portable.

Thanks

Geat! I know the feeling! You are close to the ultimate reward: Opera working like it should!
I'd really like to know how it works out with Opera portable.

Other info: earlier I commented that I had read (somewhere in these forums) that too many open sites/tabs could cause n-1 incomplete loading of site pages. I did an experiment. I generally have about 15-2- open sites/tabs and have had no obvious difficulty. So, I added 10 additional tabs and added more to Speed Dial (10 total). I then restarted. Sure enough, n-1 errors on 4 sites. Reboot and still a problem. I then deleted those additional sites (18 open sites/tabs; 5 on Speed Dial) and restarted. All worked well. I did the same with FF: added 25 sites/open tabs -- all loaded fast and complete. Added 10 more; still all loaded fast and complete. I can only guess that with the large number of site loading simultaneously that Opera runs into problems if a javascript request is not immediately available. Regardless, keeping open sites/tabs/Speed Dial to a maximum total of 18-20 or less should improve performance.

Geat! I know the feeling! You are close to the ultimate reward: Opera working like it should!
I'd really like to know how it works out with Opera portable.

Other info: earlier I commented that I had read (somewhere in these forums) that too many open sites/tabs could cause n-1 incomplete loading of site pages. I did an experiment. I generally have about 15-2- open sites/tabs and have had no obvious difficulty. So, I added 10 additional tabs and added more to Speed Dial (10 total). I then restarted. Sure enough, n-1 errors on 4 sites. Reboot and still a problem. I then deleted those additional sites (18 open sites/tabs; 5 on Speed Dial) and restarted. All worked well. I did the same with FF: added 25 sites/open tabs -- all loaded fast and complete. Added 10 more; still all loaded fast and complete.

I can only guess that with the large number of site loading simultaneously that Opera runs into problems if a javascript request does not receive immediately response and it just keeps on waiting. Regardless, keeping open sites/tabs/Speed Dial to a maximum total of 18-20 or less should improve performance.



UPDATED SUMMARY:



* Clean installation; install in separate folder (i.e., Opera 11.01)
* No blocked content; no ad blockers, etc.
* Disable/delete hosts file.
* Delete all Private Data (Tools).
* Reduce open sites/tabs and Speed Dial to a maximum of 18-20 (the fewer, the better; adjust as necessary).
* Restart to Flush DNS Cache. Or, Command Prompt and type: ipconfig /flushdns (press Enter). If LAN, may need to refresh/restart router.
    Alternatively, make registry edit:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Dnscache\Parameters

MaxCacheTtl (DWORD) Data value: 86400 (default value; 24 hours)
MaxNegativeCacheTtl (DWORD) Data value: 0 (no reason to store negative responses)
QueryIpMatching (DWORD) Data value: 1 (Create this DWORD entry; disables responses from sites that you never asked for)
See: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=8798191

* Auto update set to notify when updates available (to be able to install in separate folder)

Optional (may help):
* Enabled plug-ins on demand
* Set memory cache to fixed value: 400MB; empty on exit
* Application cache=yes
* Some user javascripts can cause conflict when Opera upgraded
* If you want to use hosts file(I do!): recommend MVPS hosts files and HostsMan w/HostServer
Hosts file may still need to be modified to remove problem ad urls for some sites.

j

I use MVPS hosts + lots of urls added for spanish
I have 4 sites in quick dial, they do not always appear upadated
I use to have 20+ tabs open, often several Youtube videos loading.
I use auto update. Not for the last version because I read problems, but at some point I will update.
I do not clean install since some time. Too much time to backup, tweak again.

I flushed DND, no result
I edited registry, no result
I cleaned old url filter=good result, till now, I keep fingers crossed.

Some time ago I had to kill coolirisalike.js from my userjs it messed with facebook and frames in some websites. So have a look in your userjs folder if you have a problem.

About Opera portable, I still have to check. I do not think I have a urlfilter there.

My Opera portable, which I use in a Windows Vista Starter (crap, I know) PC with a hosts file had an urlfilter.ini (is this file occult? i had to look up the path in about:config). It had a list of blocked URLs. I cleaned it and I am trying how it goes. I expect well.

Originally posted by janusz:

The urlfilter.ini IS the content blocker file. I'd be interested in learning how things go for you.

yes I know urlfilter.ini is the blocker. i don´t get you sorry.

Cleaning the urlfilter.ini ian Opera portable worked OK.

Still sometimes any version of Opera takes a bit to load the whole page and few I need to refresh.

I consider the problem solved and I jope it remains so.

No, no, no, wrongo. Not tabs, not hosts file, not BW, etc. These are merely facilitating variables or co-factors but not the core cause. You're missing the ...well, sorry, but are you really reading the posts or just being selective or just want some kind of on-going dialog or Q &A? Of course, if you don't have the problem, as you stated, it is a moot issue and understandable that you don't know what this phenomenon is about and, therefore, can't offer much in the way of a solution. If you do have the problem then this thread has genuine relevance and you seek a solution. I have posted what I have learned and share it. I have done several more experiments but will not post them since they do not alter what I have stated is the likely single cause.

In any case, a workaround solution has been provided for those with the problem. Enjoy! Glad to see that sibelius finally got things working.

j

Hello!
I have a problem loading the mypicturetown.com site. It is full in flash and its not loading it. I've downloaded the latest flash player but still it doesn't work.
Who can helpme?
TNX!

Originally posted by rifalau:

Hello!
I have a problem loading the mypicturetown.com site. It is full in flash and its not loading it. I've downloaded the latest flash player but still it doesn't work.
Who can helpme?
TNX!

That is a completely different issue, which needs to be in a separate thread.


Probably, the reason why the "My Photos" Flash content on
http://myp.mypicturetown.com/myphoto/member/myphoto.jsp
is invisible is because the background is overriding it.

If you go to "Menu > Page > Developer Tools > Reload From Cache", you will see the Adobe Flash content appear. However, this is only temporary because once you minimize the window, the Adobe Flash content is hidden again.

gdveggie --

Timing...
Oh, you need timing a tick a tick a tick a
Good timing a tick a tick a tick a tick a
Timing is the thing
-- 1960 oldie by Jimmy Jones

There is no way to predict when n-1 will occur. Random. Reboots somehow cleared it up. Seem like some kind of timing issue (see more comments on this below) that may be site dependent (external scripts).

I suppose we could eventually have a long list of things that we find that appears to be a cause. That's why I really think they are just artifacts or correlated issues that impact the way pages load. The open tab thing also depend on the specific sites you might have open also. DNS, tabs, hosts, BW, etc. are just a few things that illuminate the problem. Somehow, someway, Opera chokes. It is an Opera browser issue.

Thinking aloud as I type on the page...why would Opera have such a problem (n-1) when other browsers loads in a flash, even older Opera versions? It seems to be a timing issue. It is as though Opera "reads" the page and if the external data is not delayed in any way, then it loads. At other times, if anything interferes (could be other apps opening, downloading in progress, or anything that impacts incoming data) such that the reply to a request is delayed, then n-1. I happens ONLY on javascripts. That is why disabling javascript works -- javascripts are skipped. Okay, but if you click on a button or link on a site and get nada, its due to not having javascript enabled.

So, what is this delay about? My guess: On some sites the request for external scripts, etc. may take a long time -- and there does not seem to be a timeout, so Opera waits and waits. Reboot, new request, and a-hah, it works.

All of the things we've discussed here are good tuning tips though they are not the underlying cause; they simple alter the timing window. You may ask why then does my Opera screams after doing those n-1 solution tips mention a few post upstream?

Answer: Luck. Well, that's a half-hearted attempt at humor. Yet, it is true. In my virtual world I have about 40 or so sites that I visit somewhat regularly during a week. I have managed to modify my hosts file, use the HostsServer (that give a reply to external requests), and increased DNS cache. In effect, I have made compensating timing adjustments so Opera does not choke. Adding new tabs did not necessarily identify a problem -- it is NOT the number of tabs, but the random choice of specific sites. Some sites have all kinds of javascripts, etc.

FWIW, I did add a few sites to hosts file to "preload." That works very well for sites that for some reason do not resolve fast.

It's like the parable of seven blind men and the elephant. Each blind man saw a different characteristic of the same elephant. Similarly, all these other things (hosts file, DNS cache, etc.) are just different peripheral artifacts of one thing: on versions 10.xx and 11.xx Opera browser sequential processing of web pages is much different than previous versions and the sole cause of n-1 incomplete loading.

Why on some system and not others? Plain vanilla works. It's when features are added such as content blocker. Other utilities like hosts file, that do not cause a problem with other browsers, seem to not play well with Opera. To say that it is related to the individual PC setup then, if true, Opera IS crippled whereas older Opera versions, IE, and FF just work.

I never really did spend any time looking into it but I wonder about browser.js (auto download by Opera) that provide various correcting scripts. My file shows 2/23/11 date.

I noticed this line:

// Sending an extra onreadystatechange causes some ad scripts to eat memory

I suppose this had to do with Opera freezing for several seconds. In any case, this is where javascript issue are corrected. Hope someone from Opera can do something with this to solve the n-1 incomplete loading.

Bottom Line: this is not a PC setup, DNS, tabs, BW, etc. adjustment issue. It is an Opera browser issue. If you have the n-1 problem and follow the n-1 solutions mentioned above, you just may be lucky and find the right combination to alter the timing in such a way that Opera works. If you have a plain vanilla setup, it should work right out of the box in its own folder. Content blocker can cause problems depending on the entries. Hosts files seem to conflict with content blocker. Hosts file can effect Opera performance but this can be overcome by following the solutions steps. Reboot often, my friends. Relax and enjoy a Dos Equis beer.

That is the extend of my view, strictly a layman's view. I leave it to those with the skills to pursue this. I'm exhausted.

At this point I send out an appeal -- S O S -- to all the javascript experts here who might be able to write a USER JAVASCRIPT to test as a solution.


j

you know with all this talk about the last page element hanging
did anyone think to try under Preferences, Unchecking Show Thumbnails When Hovering Over Tab

this was an old issue where it seemed to improve page rendering because the Tab Thumbnail when Hovering over it is actually a snapshot of the same page you loaded. So maybe this won't have (2) pages trying to complete all the images loaded at the same time?

Maybe an over simplified answer but try it, because I haven't ever noticed page hanging since I unchecked this a long time ago.
(Slow PC here)

UPDATED SUMMARY:

Here is the latest "blind men" list of things that may solve the n-1 incomplete loading:

Added: Disable thumbnails hovering over tab (hobbler)
Added: Delete override.ini
Added: Check for updates (browser.js, etc.)



* Clean installation; install in separate folder (i.e., Opera 11.01)
* No blocked content; no ad blockers, etc.
* Disable/delete hosts file.
* Delete all Private Data (Tools).
* Close Opera, delete override.ini (individual site preferences) to eliminate possible corruption; restart restores the file.
* Reduce open sites/tabs and Speed Dial to a maximum of 18-20 (the fewer, the better; adjust as necessary).
* Restart to Flush DNS Cache. Or, Command Prompt and type: ipconfig /flushdns (press Enter). If LAN, may need to refresh/restart router.
    Alternatively, make registry edit:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Dnscache\Parameters

MaxCacheTtl (DWORD) Data value: 86400 (default value; 24 hours)
MaxNegativeCacheTtl (DWORD) Data value: 0 (no reason to store negative responses)
QueryIpMatching (DWORD) Data value: 1 (Create this DWORD entry; disables responses from sites that you never asked for)
See: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=8798191

* Auto update set to notify when updates available (to be able to install in separate folder)

Optional (may help):
* Enabled plug-ins on demand
* Tools-Preferences-Tabs. Uncheck Show thumbnails when hovering tabs.
* Check for updates - will automatically (silently) d/l update browser.js, override_downloaded.ini. etc. Restart.
* Set memory cache to fixed value: 400MB; empty on exit
* Application cache=yes
* Some user javascripts can cause conflict when Opera upgraded
* If you want to use hosts file(I do!): recommend MVPS hosts files and HostsMan w/HostServer
Hosts file may still need to be modified to remove problem ad urls for some sites.

Problems again. Tiring, boring...
Do ayou have accept all cookies or only from website? I had only from domain. I turned to accept all to see if it helps.
Posted from FF

Originally posted by rifalau:

Hello!
I have a problem loading the mypicturetown.com site. It is full in flash and its not loading it. I've downloaded the latest flash player but still it doesn't work.
Who can helpme?
TNX!

Do you have Oper Turbo enabled?

Anyway this is off topic, this is not a therad about flash problems. use the search function, there are other threads.