Opera does not complete to load the webpage

Opera does not complete to load the webpage

Hello, many times Opera does not terminate to load the webpage and shows the number of pending elements as you can see in the image. Net settings are as default. I also tried different but nothing changes. This does not happen all the time but frequently.

Do you know what can I do?. Thanks.


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Version
11.01

Build
1190

Platform
Win32

System
Windows XP

Originally posted by sibelius:

Problems again. Tiring, boring...
Do ayou have accept all cookies or only from website? I had only from domain. I turned to accept all to see if it helps.
Posted from FF

I definitely understand the tiring, boring thing. With all the things that we've seen that impacts n-1, why not cookies?
I use global setting (instead of individual site preferences) for all sites:
Accept cookies
Delete new cookies when exiting Opera

To keep the ones I want to keep, I first accept all cookies then delete those I do not want and set Delete new cookies.

But say you subscribe to a new forum, you need dissable delete new cookies, close, restart and then set delete new cookies again?. I am tired nowa abut will try it.

I should also do a clean install, but it is too much work to save files. Is there automatic tool for this?. I remember I took notes of the files needed to be backuped for configurationa but maybe there is a tool/soft.

Thanks

bookmarks, wand, cookies if you dot want to login again, skins, toolbars, notes, etc

Originally posted by janusz:

I've never used any kind of auto utility; just did it manually. Bookmarks and Wand. That's it. As for other things like cookies, etc. I started fresh. Of course, you can add other files later. Consider renaming the originals instead of overwriting them, just in case.
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I resemble that remark!

This post by mthhtm from http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=900351

But, checking for Updates (Help-Check for Updates) does the same thing. Does not always stop/prevent n-1 incomplete loadings. The reboot at the end of the process may be what helps, at least for the current session, since reboots seems to be the most effective albeit short term.
j

Originally posted by mthhtm:

Originally posted by janusz:

Opera 11.01 Build 1190.

Site pages not loading. This has also been an issue from time to time with several recent Opera versions.
I am running into this problem on several sites, even www.opera.com.

I just encountered this problem myself too. OPERA 11.01 being unable to load www.opera.com - how ironic is that! Some other sites were also failing to completely load.

It appears that the browser Javascript engine has somehow become corrupt and this method to fix it worked for me:

1. Go to OPERA: config: /USER PREFS/Browser Javascript and change its value from 2 to 1.
2. This forces OPERA to treat its Javascript engine as corrupt and download a new browser.js on restart.
3. Restart Opera.

Originally posted by janusz:

This post by mthhtm from http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=900351

1. Go to OPERA: config: /USER PREFS/Browser Javascript and change its value from 2 to 1.
2. This forces OPERA to treat its Javascript engine as corrupt and download a new browser.js on restart.
3. Restart Opera.

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I had a 0- I clicked default and tuned to 1.
I will restart and see. Thanks.

Thanks janusz
Strange, I did not have a user.js

I did like it says here and now I have one.

Checking for updates manually

Opera downloads the file automatically once a week, but if you want to make absolutely sure you have the latest file you can follow these steps:
Go to the Browser JavaScript setting and change the value to 1.
Click the "Save" button below the setting.
Use Help > Check for updates in Opera's menu bar.

Opera may tell you no new Opera version is available, but it will still check for a new version of the browser.js file.

Let´s see how it works

User javascript folder and the scripts are something you add. No Opera default. I made user javascripts (userjs) folder and have a few scripts (youtube enhancer, autosizer, highlighter, etc.). I have some others that are site specific. Others I do not have active for all sites.

There is a forum here on user javascripts: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=114
You can find more scripts here: http://userscripts.org/

About browser.js. Since I regular check of updates and can see the files update, it is possible that my Opera was cured of the n-1 infection as a result of an update of browser.js a couple of weeks ago. Could be just another blind man's look at the elephant or it may be the solution. Makes sense, since it involves javascript. I don't use autoupdate feature but do it manually. As it checks, it downloads some updated files, if needed. However, setting browser javascript to 1 causes it to download/overwrite regardless.

I see that you've use Opera since v2.12. Wow! If memory serves me, I dabbled with "crash" version 3.62 or something like that. I think I still have it on one of my museum PCs. Back then it was a novelty but faster than Netscape and IE. I used version 6.xx in parallel to IE. I never used Opera as my primary browser until version 9.xx.

Let us know how things go...

Ummm. OPERA TURBO!

Is this the "elephant" whose characteristics "blind men" have described upstream on this thread? Could Turbo impact timing? Sure matches up with some of the things we've seen.

May explain why the n-1 incomplete loading has been associated with versions 10.xx and 11.xx. Turbo was made available on Opera 10. Sure, explains why my Opera 9.62 on another machine hums along.

Open tabs have been described as a possible cause. Increased number of tabs/open sites may have triggered Turbo into action (if set to Auto or if On, contributed to n-1).

Why do reboots work? Maybe (guessing) it clears the turbo decks, so to speak, and Opera loads without Turbo active (If set to Auto) and manages to fill the pages, all n elements. If Turbo is on, then it may just mingle the mix so things load okay (but may take several reboots) At other times, turbo may kick in. Of course, if you have turbo On then the problem would be pronounced.

No need to go down the list (all cited upstream) but Turbo sure seems to explain a lot. One way to know for sure if this is THE "elephant" or just another characteristic: if you do no need Turbo, if On, turn Off, if Auto, turn Off.

More on Opera Turbo...
Opera Turbo is "a server-side optimization and compression technology that provides significant improvements in browsing speeds over limited-bandwidth connections by compressing network traffic."

A proxy server accesses web sites through other computers (servers). When you request a web site via your PC the request goes to the proxy server; it is retrieved by the proxy server and then sent back to your PC. The Opera Turbo proxy servers use a compression process to reduce download size, thereby speeding up the web page display.

"Turbo uses a technology called 'Opera Web Optimization Proxy'... Web sites layout and text will look exactly the same, but image resolution may appear considerably lower as a result of the compression. Dynamic Web technologies such as Ajax (XmlHttpRequests) and Flash are supported, but some plugin content will load only after clicking on the empty element."

Comments from:
http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2009/03/13/please-welcome-opera-turbo

kalagh # 14. March 2009, 14:52
ok, tested. works properly most of the time but sometimes i get endless page loading (something like stucking at element x/y) and i have to turn it off in order to get the page loaded completely. nice feature anyway.

XmoneyX # 14. March 2009, 15:21
@kalagh:
Same problem here. Pages won't stop loading.

More blind men describing the elephant:

Pages won't load or finish loading (Opera 11)
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=879912

Opera Turbo triggers on normal connection
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=931142

If you do no need Turbo, if On, turn Off, if Auto, turn Off:

* Turn off Turbo (Tools-Preferences-Webpages, Click Details, Check Off, OK)

As I think back to a couple of weeks ago (when the n-1 partial loading stopped) I do recall changing Opera Turbo from automatic to off. I did not do it as a troubleshooting thing, just something I did reviewing settings. It was a casual thing since I thought 'automatic' really did not have any benefit with my high speed internet service so I turned it off. I suspect that the 'automatic' setting has a threshold trigger point that is tripped when internet speed momentarily slows (multiple sites loading simultaneously, heavy download traffice, or for whatever reasons). Until now I never gave it much thought as it being a possible cause of the n-1 phenomenon. It might explain why n-1 incomplete loading is often random (i.e., unpredictable) and site dependent. It was the randomness of it all that lead me to believe it to be somehow connected with timing or the way pages load in Opera. I have done some experiments on other machines and the results seem to indicate Opera Turbo to be the major factor or certainly a confounder among many for this intermittent, persistent problem. Need more time to validate.

Does turning Opera Turbo OFF solve your n-1/n element incomplete loading problem?

Hi janusz thanks for the followup.

I use Opera since 2.12 but maybe it was a bit old at that time, I think it was 1996/7
I had opera Turbo in automatic (I don´t think it ever tuened on), turned to off. let´s see.
As I replied to a poster here about flash, Turbo can cause problems with flash. I am about to post a new topic because Youtube videos get stuck even if it already completely loaded (FF works)

Maybe you could add enabling "Delayed Script Execution" to your "blind men" list of things, as it seems to have solved my n-1/n problem.
In address bar go to:

opera:config#Extensions|DelayedScriptExecution

Originally posted by jaspertweaks:

Maybe you could add enabling "Delayed Script Execution" to your "blind men" list of things, as it seems to have solved my n-1/n problem.
In address bar go to:

opera:config#Extensions|DelayedScriptExecution

Thanks, i did. I will report if it works.

janusz, I do not notice a worsening with Delayed Script Execution enabled. I am still trying it though.
Yes Opera 9.64 was good as was v 6 too

Originally posted by sibelius:

janusz, I do not notice a worsening with Delayed Script Execution enabled. I am still trying it though.
Yes Opera 9.64 was good as was v 6 too

I suppose it needs low bandwidth to work. It gums up the works for me. It took five restarts to get most sites to load. Some never did (and they had earlier). The Opera home page finally came around too.

Regardless, I've given up on it. I have just installed Opera 10.10 (first turbo version but before the newer javascript engine) on this machine. If it works well, I will stay with it as backup browser to FF.

I have several friends that I convinced to try Opera some time ago. All high speed internet services. Most have this very same problem. They are in different parts of the USA. However, they don't mess with it and just use FF or IE. I was asked for a solution. Easy; FF or IE. Other friends have absolutely no problems at all or so they say.

Thanks janusz. i still want Opera as default browser, but yes, I have to use FF many times.
I have broadband.
What I am trying now is disabling hardware accelerations in flash and Delayed Script Execution enabled.
I hope nex version of Flash/Opera solve problems.
Reverting to an older version of Opera is an option, please post results.
Thanks

I just looked at the setting in Opera 10.62 that I have.

Under Extensions, Delayed Script Execution is Unchecked, so that must be the default.

What pages are causing a "hang" ?, how about some sites to check to see how it shows up here.
Maybe its some lousy low budget server they are using?

Originally posted by hobbler:

I just looked at the setting in Opera 10.62 that I have.

Under Extensions, Delayed Script Execution is Unchecked, so that must be the default.

What pages are causing a "hang" ?, how about some sites to check to see how it shows up here.
Maybe its some lousy low budget server they are using?

The problem with n-1 is that it is variable and soetimes resolve with a restart, so if I pass a URL most probably ayou won´t be able to checka it. If you had this problem you will have noticed.

Anyway, I have the n-1 problem now here
http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com
...well, not it loaded.

And for the bank page you would need a username a pass.

sibelius --

I tried your link. You're gonna love this: it loads fine! Sorry, about that! Don't you love it when you get that reply?!

But, I got n-1 incomplete loading with Opera 9.64. (Just joking, Opera 9.64 loads it fast!)

Yeah, it's like trying to capture a ghost. Now you see it and now you don't. The Phantom of the Opera?

Anyway, I have the n-1 problem now here
http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com
...well, not it loaded.

And for the bank page you would need a username a pass.

I clicked that link, it loaded fine but thats a huge page anyway, it scrolls down forever, and I don't even know what they're talking about !

janusz,
haha yeah sometimes the Opera Web pages don't load smoothly, in fact they respond faster in...Firefox!
maybe because of the cold servers in Iceland??? is that where they are???

Maybe it's a coincidence, but I've noticed that the (n-1) element is usually the javascript element in the source code.
Also although the page is blank, when you'll look at the source code, the whole html code is there.

To recreate the problem I always do the following:
1) You'll need to be blocking some javascripts. I always use the MVPS hosts file.
2) Open multiple tabs on a website which are generating javascript errors because we're blocking the js.

So could someone confirm this:
- Go to http://www.picsearch.com/index.cgi?q=Nuclear%20Reactor&cols=6&width=1400
- Open the Error Console and make sure that there is a "Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Undefined variable: urchinTracker"
- Open the Panels (F4) and from here open the Links Panel.
- In the Links Panel, right-click on the 3, then hold Shift, go all the way to 15 and right-click on 15
- You'll now have the option of opening pages 3-15 in a background tab. Open those tabs.
- Some tabs now have the n-1/n problem.

All the other browsers (ie, chrome, ff, opera 9.64) have indeed no problems with this.

Oh, yes. That is what n-1 incomplete loading is about -- javascript. Disable javascript for those links and they load fine. That'll open the sites but if the site has important javascript links, they become useless.

Another example why this is the Phantom of the Opera: I tried your exercise. I use MVPS hosts and every single link (3-20) in background tabs opened quickly without a single n-1 incomplete loading. So, I closed the tabs and did it again and several did exhibit n-1. Restart and they all load. However, this is at least a way to try to duplicate the problem...sometimes. Numerous open tabs will on occasions exhibit this, but not always, as described thoughout this thread.

Amazingly, as mention above also, I opened 60 various (not multiple pages of same site) site in background tabs and had some sites exhibiting n-1 problems. I load the very same 60 sites in Opera 9.64 and it is amazing how fast ALL sites opened!

I would like to point out that using hosts file is not a factor (although another issue, some sites may not load; remove the entry in hosts file). Javascript doesn't have to be blocked to cause this (see upstream comments); it can and does happen without hosts file. In any case, why should hosts file be a problem with ONLY Opera? There are many things that seem be the cause but are only "blind men" characteristics of an "elephant." As mentioned above, anything that alters the timing or rendering of page loading appear to play a role -- at least for that session. Since this is not a problem with older versions of Opera or other browsers, the n-1 incomplete loading is especially unique to Opera 10.xx and 11.01.

Welcome to the new ultra fast javascript engine, the Phantom of the Opera.

Is this a bug? How would it be reported?

1. Go to Extensions
opera:config#Performance|NetworkBufferSize

Set Network Buffer Size to 64 or 128, 256
SAVE

2. Go to Performance
opera:config#Performance|MaxConnectionsServer

and do this:

Max Connections Server: 32
Max Connections Total: 128

UNCHECK these if checked:

No Connection Keepalive
Non-Compliant Server 100 Continue
Reduce Max Persistent HTTP

If you have Synchronous DNS Lookup checked, UNCHECK it also.

This is something I just wrote on my Blog Photo about if anyone came across it.
But I think lowering the Maximum Connections per... is better performance overall because too many connections and then the Newsgroups wont function.
Network Buffer lowered seems better for downloading speed.

Yes turn off that dumb "Pipelining" setting that everyone thinks makes it go faster, it never does unless someone running a server actually can tell you if its on and they accept it.

Synchronous DNS should only be on for Dial up not Broadband, thats an oldie discussed topic.

http://my.opera.com/hobbler/albums/showpic.dml?album=3257122&picture=99179412

Janusz,
Thanks for looking at the photo.

How about this test, I think you mentioned you have Opera 9.64? I wonder if it would render faster in that?

Should have mentioned this before but,
My State's Lotto website decided last month to "update the pages" instead of the old plain just the numbers listed for quick checking of tickets.
They went overboard!
Now it has color, flash animations, numbers listed all over making it harder to find things, images of scratch tickets...

Well instead of a quick fast page load like before, it now can take a minute or more just to load the home page!
It can get frustrating with n-1 hang!!! somethings just won't load.
Let me know what happens.

http://ctlottery.org/

Frustrating, isn't it?

Well, I am of no help. The site opened and loaded pretty quickly. I restarted (thinking I might get n-1 to kick in) and it loaded nicely with no n-1 incomplete loading (see image below). I had about 10 open tabs. I also open the links on the toolbar and they loaded okay. All opened in about 10 seconds.

I loaded it in Opera 9.64 and it loaded in about 6-8 second -- it went through the address bar elements fast. I had 6 open tabs in Opera 9.64. Firefox 3.6.13 (with 5 open tabs) opened the site in about the same time as Opera 9.64. Surprisingly, IE8 loaded the site in about 2 seconds (but only one other tab open)!

I thought I would post pix of my settings (opera:config, Performance). After playing around with the setting these seem to be working out find. I have no idea if this is optimum for me -- probably violating all the conventional wisdom*; all I can say is that I'm running n-0. Who knows how long this will last?!

*Someone once told me (because I'm a senior citizen) that I was smart and wise. I commented that with age comes wisdom, that is the conventional wisdom on wisdom. But, sometimes age comes alone! And I'm probably a good example of The Lone Ager! [/I]

I installed opera 9.64 portable from www.opera-usb.com with default settings and I have the same n-1 portable.
Janusz are you using Linux in that screen caption?

Originally posted by janusz:

I thought I would post pix of my settings (opera:config, Performance). After playing around with the setting these seem to be working out find. I have no idea if this is optimum for me -- probably violating all the conventional wisdom*; all I can say is that I'm running n-0. Who knows how long this will last?!

OK I decided to change the Maximum Connections Per Server and Total, increased them higher, and yikes!
Opera slowed to a crawl.
Using a DSL 1.5Mbps connection here.

I Didn't like that pages not wanting to load.(n-1) so I lowered them down like I had it before, now its Ok again.

I came across another setting that might do something if someone knows how it works?
opera:config Cache , ECMA Script, it has a number 2000 which could be reserved memory (kb?) used for Javascript rendering?
Is this some average setting used globally ?
Since most web sites now have Javascript overload, could this be increased to help page loading and stop n-1???

Originally posted by sibelius:

I installed opera 9.64 portable from www.opera-usb.com with default settings and I have the same n-1 portable.
Janusz are you using Linux in that screen caption?

I am speechless. Amazing. Do you have hosts file. Try setting DNS Client (Control Panel-Admin Tools-Component Services, Services) to Manual, Stop, Save, and reboot.

Image is SnagIt/Windows XP. Speaking of Linux, I have Opera 10.01 in Mandrivia. No n-1 problems.

Originally posted by hobbler:

OK I decided to change the Maximum Connections Per Server and Total, increased them higher, and yikes!
Opera slowed to a crawl.
Using a DSL 1.5Mbps connection here.

I Didn't like that pages not wanting to load.(n-1) so I lowered them down like I had it before, now its Ok again.

Other than slowing it to a crawl did you get n-1?

Now that you readjusted, did it correct n-1?

Maybe much lower settings will work best for your setup. Always reboot after changing settings.

I looked into Control Panel-Admin Tools-Component Services, Event Viewer, System. Look at Event column for 4226.
and i have many 4226

Should I apply the patch? And how to revert to default? I just run the patch again?

browser.js is enabled

Thanks

edit: I see http://half-open.com/download_en.htm allows to select values, is this one better than http://lvllord.de/ ? BTW AVG antivirus blocks lvllord.de exe patch

Thanks janusz

I used http://half-open.com/download_en.htm to set 100 which is quite simple and AVG did not blocked.

I don´t like any antivirus very much but thanks for suggesting Microsoft Security Essentials. I would have to uninstall AVG. In my experience two AV do not get well.

I can´t favorite this thread. I want to keep it visible if I have to undo the any modifications I made.

The start menu icon i your pic looks like a penguin to me.

I'm still trying the Network Connections in Opera all over the board.

Tried the Minimum and Maximum on both settings for Maximum connections to Server and Maximum Total.
From 1 to 128, it gets strange results.

Lower settings seem best for text pages, but with lots of flash or photos higher seems to work.
Its like 50/50 with the n-1 page hang, waiting for connection #1 or sometimes #2, weird.

I lowered Max connections per Server/Total in Firefox to (8/20) and that responds faster and no hanging elements.

Maybe it is the Javascript and it has a mathmatical error in its code somewhere?

That State Lotto web site still takes too long and hangs elements, annoying.
Opera is The Phantom!

Originally posted by janusz:

This thread is over a year old and certainly has a lot of the characteristics of many of the symptoms cited here as n-1 incomplete loading.

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=358631&abc=&page=1&skip=0&show=&perscreen=50

This really helped speed up page loading (but may not help with n-1). You may have to find value that works best.

opera:config
Network-
HTTP Loading Delayed Timeout: 2 (default 30)
(also: Tools-Preferences-Advanced-Browsing: Redraw instantly)

In the meantime, I've gone back to Opera 9.64. I luv my Super-Duper Screaming Opera 9.64! An oldie but goodie!
I never knew FAST complete page-loading w/o restarts could be so wonderful!

Anyone try Opera 11.10 beta? Any improvement?

After re-reading that older thread it kinda "hit me"
That maybe there is no such thing as n-1 hang at all.

People see it because they have the "Full" Progress bar showing and that Progress Bar itself is the problem.
Someone mentioned that it might be just the Progress bar problem and watching it, not an actual problem in loading the page.
When I put the Progress Bar on the "Simple Version" the pages loaded fine, I could still see elements loading but never got stuck on the last one.
It completed. (or turning off the Progress Bar altogether)

So whoever designed the Progress Bar, Full pop up on bottom or in the Address Bar, made some "quirk" mistake in its design causing it too get stuck? (My thoughts)

The simple Progress bar version just seems to do the job right.
Maybe thats all it is.
Not the DNS Cache or Ethernet, TCP/IP stack, Network connections, etc...

BTW I have lowered my network connections in Opera v10.62 to 2 per Server and 4 Total (like the old days)
It seems even better response time in the Opera Forums right here.

I have the simple progress bar as shown in pic.

Originally posted by sibelius:

I have the simple progress bar as shown in pic.

I am not seeing many n-1 hangs even with the Simple Progress Bar, so it could be just some really bad websites with lots of errors, you could always Validate a page just to see if it has errors too.

Opera Menu, Settings, Preferences, Network
What I did was lower the maximum connections per server and maximum connections total
it actually seems to improve page loading

Max connections Server = 2
Max connections Total = 4

try it and see if it flows better.

also, just thinking, do you have "Enable Fraud Protection" ON in Opera?
if you do make sure the anti-virus or spyware isn't running a real time protection service at the same time. You have to use one or the other not both.

I don't think tweaking is the solution, although tweaks can ... well, tweak things. However, they can alter things sometimes and may help with the n-1 problem giving the illusion that it's been solved. Yeah, I've been down that road also (look upstream on this thread). They work for the session and may survive a reboot...then, suddenly ... N-1!!

I did manage to get Opera 11.01 optimized/tweaked a level where I don't get n-1 often. For a long time now (~3 weeks) I seldom see n-1s, they have been rare. Yet, when they do occur, I try things to get the site to load. I was successful only once and did nothing more than clear the cache and then refresh the page. Sometimes when I go to a new site n-1 bites again. The only "tweak" I have found is reboot. If that doesn't work reboot again, and again. Then it loads and you can proceed with your normal browsing for that session.

Now, that being said, I tried various progress bar setting with Opera 11.01 with ~50 open tabs. I found no difference among the settings that made any difference as far as n-1 incompletely page loadings. However, if you keep on rebooting you can find the sweet spot for that session and they all load. IN NO INSTANCE was the n-1 display merely an incorrect display; there was incomplete loading of the page contents. I have yet to have a complete page display while seeing element not loaded in the progress bar. IMHO, to dismiss the progress bar showing n-1 as incorrect does not correlate with the actual page partial loading.

Ignoring the progress bar n-1 element indication is akin to closing one's eyes so no to see what's in the room. Turning the progress bar off is like turning the lights off at night as a solution to removing furniture in the room. It's not just the progress bar; this is true for most of the false positive solutions on this thread. It should be noted that a combination of these "solutions" and "tweaks" may actually help (e.g., keep open tabs <10). I think that is why I've able to go without n-1 for such a long time.

Why would I abandon Opera 11.01 when it works for me? After using it I still run across n-1 problems, even though rare, it still presents a problem for me when doing business work. I just don't have time to fiddle with it. So, I am in a holding pattern with Opera 9.64 until the next final version. I'm hoping that the fleeting, on again, off again, will-o'-wisp can be captured.

j

gdveggie --

Ahhh, but you just never commited a fraudulent act. If you ever do though, it will alert US!

Now that you brought it up, I've never had it do anything either. I heard it keeps elephants out of tree also. No elephants in my trees so it must be working, huh? Seriously though, I just don't venture too much outside of my regular online haunts so not likely I would run across such a site. Host file also provides similar protection. Is there a test available for the feature, maybe something like the antivirus EICAR test file?

Opera’s Fraud and Malware Protection
http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/security/fraud/
http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/security/fraud/950/

"Opera’s Fraud and Malware Protection warns you about suspicious webpages and is enabled by default. It checks the page you request against several databases of known phishing and malware websites, called a blacklists. Although it is not possible to totally eliminate the risk of encountering an unidentified phishing or malware website, the risk is minimized."

It's been around since Opera 9.1. Browsers such as Internet Explorer, Firefox and Opera all have "fraud" protection and "phishing" filters either built-in or added on for added protection. I have never run across any recommendation to disable it due to conflict with antivirus (although I've heard that Norton conflicts with everything and leaves residue). Then again, for some, maybe antivirus software scanning causes n-1?

"By default, Opera Fraud and Malware Protection is enabled. With Opera Fraud and Malware Protection enabled, he domain name of websites you visit is sent to Opera’s Fraud and Malware Protection server together with a hash of the domain name which checks it against phishing blacklists compiled by Netcraft and PhishTank, and malware blacklists compiled by TRUSTe. HTTPS sites are checked via an encrypted channel, while IP addresses on the local intranet will never be checked."

It may be that disabling fraud protection changes the timing mix of things so that sites do load better, like some of the other tweaks mentioned in this thread. A genuine solution would be 100% for everyone. I don't think this is the cause and disabling fraud protection the solution.

j

One reason you can´t just ignore the n-1: relative links won´t work.

I have seen the Fraud protection before on some sites when I type in the address bar a wrong letter.

Opera seems Ok with the way I have it set up now.

Siblius have you looked at my photos on My Opera blog at the settings I have in Opera?
Are they similar?
Are you running WindowsXP with all updates and unneeded Services shut off? How much RAM?
If there are too many running processes in Windows that could take some performance away.

Have you ever checked your Ethernet Card settings that could cause a conflict/slowdown?

What is your Bandwidth?

Well Firefox 4 was just released today and claims to have a super fast javascript engine, I wonder if it will get n-1 hangs!
Did I just say that in a Opera Forum???

Originally posted by hobbler:

Well Firefox 4 was just released today and claims to have a super fast javascript engine, I wonder if it will get n-1 hangs! Did I just say that in a Opera Forum???

Well, well, well. Who would have guessed that their "super fast javascript engine" screams? n-1 incomplete loadings? Not in their lexicon. Added many, many, many open tabs and I could not get it to produce n-1.