Opera IRC Wishlist

Opera IRC Wishlist

There are a few features which Opera Chat needs imho:

1) Highliting
I would like to have the option of highliting which a sound or the new mail / download is finished "popup" when my Name/Nick (both would be good) is mentionend in one of my chats)

2) the /notice command
Display /notice in channels which the same person and not in an extra window. /notive is often used for bots to say hello. It is annoying to have 2 pop up when i connect to quakenet.(From L and from Q who say hello: Thx for logging on.)
And the opera popup blocker doesn't even work there

3) Loging of chats
It might sound a bit Greeky but I want to be able to read a conversation another day.
This allows you to pass a conversation to someone who wasn't there easily.

4) Retry/Reconnect
Mupltiple connect attempts if the first fail. It occors often that you need those and it would be good if Opera would tries it automaticly.
MIRC does this for example.
It would be also nice if opera reconnets if it loses the connetion.

5) Seeing the name of the one who has set the topic of a channel the last time if I join a channel. (For use in private channels)

6) Ignore Command
It is very useful to ignore a spammer. Opera should realy support this.

7) Better Whois
Whois should display the IP Address. This is useful for quite a few online game things.

Yeah, I miss the sound-on-message-arrival feature when all IRC windows are in background (during a web browsing) or when computer is unattended for some time (closed notebook beside me while I'm doing something else) or when Opera itself is inactive (when working in other applications)

BTW Opera displays the IP address in whois

for example:
Ailij is ~Ailij@ip-83-149-0-113.nwgsm.ru (1)
Ailij is in the following rooms: ~nm


"ip-83-149-0-113.nwgsm.ru" - This is an address. To resolve plain IP you can use "nslookup ip-83-149-0-113.nwgsm.ru" command (in Windows command prompt cmd.exe)

This an address yes, but a IP Address.

I just don't want to run a command in cmd.exe. That is not intuitive.

If it itsn't included in whois opera should support IP gaiing with /dns .

Originally posted by Brutha
It would be also nice if opera reconnets if it loses the connetion.

ACK! It's really annoying that Opera doesn't even notice a reset or lost connection. It only notices, when saying something.
A IRC client should not only notice a lost connection but, as suggested, be able to automatically reconnect to the server in such a case.
That's a feature I really need!

All those changes are needed before the chat in Opera is usable. Without them there are much better alternatives out there (even with the changes there are better alternatives, but the pros of using Opera's built-in chat overweights the pros of the other clients).
For me 1,4 and 6 are a must!
7 is not that important, but as I said all should be in an usable chat-client

Why isn't the Irc getting any updates?

+1 to all, but you can already save chats (ctrl-s).
and about the first point, yes a audio signal and blinking tab (maybe also windows taskbar) would be really nice, bt until then, you can at least use the "Checking if people are talking to you"-css from http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/operaStyles/extraChatStyles.html , it will tell you how often your name has been said, so you know if/how often you have been adressed when you have been away for a while.

I will ask for Chat Archive.

I know Opera allows us to save in HTML format....But Keeping track of all those file is a problem so its better to go for an chat archiving system that would record all chats!

Thank U

1. Please! Especially if it's a pvt message window!
2. Completely agree.
3. Proper chat logging would be preferable to html saving. Opera should create a file with the start date/time and channel as the filename, and continue to save every time a new message is posted, or every few seconds if there are a lot of messages.
4. Useful. There seem to be a few problems with the connecting code. Sometimes when I try and join a channel without connecting to the server first, nothing happens. Opera should know what to do and connect to the server then open the chat window in that channel.
5. Definitely.
6. Yes.
7. Yes.

Bring in as many missing IRC commands as possible, starting with the most obviously useful...


Also, I don't think we can user the user view options (author/user) in irc mode, so it is impossible to change the appearance afaik. The ability to disable picture smileys would be nice too, although I quite like them, so maybe the ability to add more and customise them would be nice (including adding events/images for any string of chars). Maybe there could be a smileys.ini where we can set this up?

+1 to all of the above, pretty much.

As awful as XChat's UI is, it's got features that OperaChat should borrow.

I agree.
+1 to all

Maybe in 9.0?

+1 for all ideas

Btw. I have one more wish for new feature in IRC. I'm not sure will I able to explain that..

I would like to see some horizontal line between new text and text that I already read. How Opera will know that? It should apprear only if I set channel tab as not active.

For example:

#channel
Zajec: hello
Someb: hi Zajec
Anoth: Zajec ;p hey

now I change active tab to some else... after 3 mins I coma back to #channel

#channel
Zajec: hello
Someb: hi Zajec
Anoth: Zajec ;p hey
----------------------------------
Anoth: Zajec I still wait for mail
Someb: remember about me 2

Do you think it useful for you? I got used to sth that in mIRC

Sorry for bumping this thread but I"m annoyed at how the IRC client behaves when I do !list and fserves (a usual SOP for d/l'ing stuff over IRC) send a somewhat private message to me (it's like a combination of PM and Announcements... sorry, don't know how to describe it), in mIRC, it displays the messages in the same window but it Opera, it displays them in a new tab which isn't really bad.... until you got 20 of them doing that under 5 seconds.... If there's a work-around or if it really should behave that way (well, mIRC does it...) then sorry for my ignorance.

In addition, it would be useful if there's an option to make the Define words (Dictionary, Thesaurus etc.) open in a new window/tab besides going to the site in the same window. And also, since the browser already has it on its right-click menu... why not add it to the search engines list too? (I know there's a way to add it.. but why go through all the trouble) Opera already has download.com and amazon on its seach engine list... I don't think there's any argument against adding the dicionary there... (well, another work-around is to use google and type "define:insert word here")

Another point: The search bar is a bit quirky at times (in other words, it's not very user-friendly)... more specifically when it jumps search engines (I don't know when or why it just does...).

Request for standard scripts to be used.

Preferably standard .mrc style scripts as found in mIRC.

I would like to use aliases and basic fun scripts like trivia, weather, etc.

+1 auto logging (it's a must)

A IRC settings menu. There's a lot of things I would like to be able to configure. Like quit message, "agressive notify", sounds, you name it...
And I would like the IRC channel tabs distinguished from the other tabs. Like one tab that says "Chat" and the list of channels you're in inside that page.

Originally posted by Brutha:

This an address yes, but a IP Address.

I just don't want to run a command in cmd.exe. That is not intuitive.

If it itsn't included in whois opera should support IP gaiing with /dns .

Every User in +x mode is protected against lookup. "/dns" is an (irc)serverside-command. In mIRC one could type /raw dns xxxx and will get an answer, that doesn't go for most other commands. This command, however, is only available for IrcOps on most networks. If you want to reveal your IP-Adress, you shouldn't set +x mode or you should set -x mode.

If Opera's not showing IPs of -x users, your complaint is justified, however.

But ... I don't think an IM should be integrated into a browser or reverse. mIRC is highly configurable and has almost all commands one needs for IRC. Opera is highly configurable and has almost everything a browser needs. So what?

I suppose IRC support was introduced in the same spirit as Torrent, so I don't really see the point in extending the capabilities. Sure, you could save quite some ressources but, browser devs aren't IM devs, after all. Even mIRC is only usable for some with certain scripts on it; I suppose it would be wiser therefore to add "script" or "extension" support for the IRC client.

There aren't many cross-protocol clients supporting IRC like one would want. The best IRC clients are those that are nothing more, but IRC clients. I can, however, understand, that OperaIRC is a great alternative to java applet to some. However, it's enough for "just chatting" and thus it's fulfilling its purpose. All wanting more are allowed to use a standalone IRC client.

Sometimes I'd like to copy and paste something from irc. The text I get from Opera is hard to understand. It looks almost like this(opera forum removes tabs):

sexydevilbye Mikey, HPearce. moi
<- raju has disconnected (Client exited)
rj/join the_matrix
sexydevil
<- sexydevil has left lounge
13:20VanessaMkVanessaMk is bored
VanessaMkentertain me
<- HPearce has disconnected (Quit: HPearce)

Even with tabs it's hard to read. I think date and nicknames should be in some kind of brackets. It also would be nice if current time would be shown at each line. Time format should be editable. Some ppl would like to know not only minutes but seconds when something had happend. With those changes previous chat log would look like this:

[13:15:00]<sexydevil>bye Mikey, HPearce. moi
[13:16:00]<- raju has disconnected (Client exited)
[13:17:00]<rj>/join the_matrix
[13:18:00]<sexydevil>
[13:19:00]<- sexydevil has left lounge
[13:20:00]<VanessaMk>VanessaMk is bored
[13:20:10]<VanessaMk>entertain me
[13:20:20]<- HPearce has disconnected (Quit: HPearce)

I think it's much easier to read...

Another thing is that there should be option to disable smiles icons. Some ppl prefer text faces ;)

Some time ago, I discovered something very useful in Opera Chat, You can save conversations in html format, just like you would save a webpage for later viewing. Click "File", then "Save as" and save as html. Then you have a neat html file for later reference.

Note to developers: Combine that with an auto-save function and you have the nice auto-save log function some users want.

Now, it would be nice to be able to switch to a format that's easy to read as plaint text. As a substitute, you can use the built in stylesheet that deactivates tables. (I'm using Norwegian version of Opera so I can't describe it properly.) Click "View" (Third from left ( "File" "Edit" "View")) then "Style" (not sure if that's correct) then "Own mode" (or "Custom mode" or something (Second option from the top)), then repeat the previous steps but click "Deactivate tables" instead. Try figuring this out yourself if my description was incorrect.

The new chat layout should be like this:

00:00
Nickname
Text said by Nickname
00:01
Other Nickname
Text said by Other Nickname

The conversation can be saved as plain text or copy-pasted.

The problem is that you can't automate

Click "File", then "Save as" and save as html.

UTF-8 recode is needed.

I know a very good table layout which is good to copy-paste from. I wonder if Opera Chat could use this layout instead of the one it has now? http://oc.ormgas.com/index.php . Check out the IRC activity box in the bottom in the center. And could you apply some [ ]'s to the timestamps and some <>'s to the nicknames in Opera Chat?

First 4 are +1
Other are +1

It appears IRC has been... how should I say... neglected ?

I agree that the irc client has been sorely (and sadly) neglected. I hope this changes soon. I vote for everything on the list, with logging being #1.

Originally posted by Mohjive:

All those changes are needed before the chat in Opera is usable. Without them there are much better alternatives out there (even with the changes there are better alternatives,...

I would say far better alternatives.
I hope that Opera will remain the best browser in the future like it is now but I don't expect third part implementations like chat will ever come close to specialized applications.
It's impossible to make everything better than others, even for the Opera team.
We should let Opera concentrate on what they do and know best, namely the browser.

Originally posted by Mohjive:

... but the pros of using Opera's built-in chat overweights the pros of the other clients).

Wonder what these pros might be?

If not all, at least loging. I mean, come on! That's kind of basic no?

A big +1 for logging as an M2 account.

+1 for everything mentioned

I get the distinct impression that the irc client in Opera is just plain useless if you do anything other than chat and even the it lacks utterly basic features of a chat program, namely logging. I think its better to just not include something if you are just going to make it nearly useless. It is also evident that they have repeated the same thing with the bittorrent functionality, the whole transfers window should have been redesigned to make the relevant stats readily discernible. I tried that feature exactly once then promptly turned it off and set everything to open via utorrent. It's really distressing to see what could otherwise be great functionality so poorly implemented.

C'mon Opera devs! Leave the widgets alone for a minute and focus on the Opera IRC for a while no? At least implement some basic logging! It can't be that hard now can it?

Hi,

i also would like to hear a sound when i recive a personal message.


Thanks.


ZeroJoker

I like the Instant mesenger for linux (gaim?)that suport several protocols like yahoo, msn, aim and also irc. I would pay more atention to the chat function if it suported several protocols. If this also suported the use of webcam it would be a great bonus, but it's still 6 mounts to xmass

+1 for that stuff, and also a way to support scripting.

To those who complain about Opera having an IRC client... Don't. You will only notice Opera's IRC client when you want to add an IRC account or click an irc:// link. And when you're not using it. It's not using any system resources (if I recall correctly).

I agree with K'lon. Opera's IRC client really need script support. And using JavaScript for IRC would be perfect.

Please do something with IRC. At least more than adding a smiley dropdown at the top of the window.

+1. I'd really wish to see most of those features, especially highlighting and in-tab notices. Please consider improving the IRC client - I use it a lot, and so I'm often apalled by the lack of certain "standard" IRC client features.

EDIT: Right, by the way, I spoke to a few of you Opera guys on a fair today, very nice chatting to you

As I've used KVIrc for a while I've noticed that Opera's feature support is "quite" low.

1-6: I give a huge +1 to all of these
7: for this one too; at least it should have DNS lookup support

also a +1 to scripting

Also here are a few things i would like to have in too:

• Opera should show the user channel mode prefix in the userlist and/or in channel (~owner, !admin, @op, %halfop, +voiced).
• The HTML templates should be editable
• Alternate nicks if nick in use
• Ability to customize the identd
• Also into the scripting thing, events could be really cwl

I would also like to have an option for a server window so you can, for example, read the MOTD when connecting

Originally posted by aleksanteri:

Ability to customize the identd

The ident is the part in front of the @ of the emailaddress you enter, so that's already possible.

I agree...Logging is necessary and maybe a lag meter showing your lag in seconds or a graph or even both. (Something like XChat) and mode bars/buttons/tabs either on top or bottom etc...Would make it easier for new guys

Originally posted by ZeroJoker:

Hi,

i also would like to hear a sound when i recive a personal message.


Thanks.


ZeroJoker

i absolutely agree!that would be very very very useful
+1

Allow to put pictures(avatars) to the person we talk to in private chat

+1

Sounds.

I'd like to have different sounds for different events. Especially so I know when some PMs me or something. That would be awsome!

Originally posted by AmigaHeretic:

different sounds for different events.

+1

Let Mini users enter chat, too.

+1 for ignore

Another vote for ignore, please.

My wishes:
- A terminal colour scheme as a option. I just feel more comfortable with white-on-black. Too drastic? I find #212122 to be a splendid dark grey.
- A disconnect button. Sometimes it would make sense to disconnect but leave chat windows open for quick reconnect.
- Better handling of DCC: auto-accept list functionality (see: ChatZilla) and for some reason Opera sometimes asks where to save before accepting and then doesn't download at all.
- Auto-group all IRC tabs!

-auto-login
-to color nick and your messages


Is there anyone taking care of Opera IRC?

edit: i dunno if it's only with me, but i'd like i could to download by Opera IRC
edit 2: Now I see, I download a 2 mb file from Opera IRC but the download windows doesn't show the porcentage of dowload, time and so on.

+1

Plus some dark contrast themes, my eyes are not getting any better at reading small text.

3) Loging of chats
It might sound a bit Greeky but I want to be able to read a conversation another day.
This allows you to pass a conversation to someone who wasn't there easily.

Can i have soon?
Topic is 6 years old.............. *grrr*