Opera 8.01 RC2

Opera 8.01 RC2

ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/801/en/

Are you going to update snapshot.opera.com soon? Please...

Hmm, Mac 8.01...

finally

Hurrah

It's good! It's much more responsive then the preview!

Looks good so far!

One minor point: My search.ini got overwritten...

Nice!!

Very well done!!

err...search ini. probles AGAIN!!
And what the heck happen to the search panel? Don't like it!!

EDIT: How can I remove the images from my search panel?????

Originally posted by jonspencerbx
One minor point: My search.ini got overwritten...

It's backed up to search.ini.000, atleast on Linux.

Why can't opera leave the search ini alone????
I spent weeks working on it just to ahve to do it all again.

I hope there is a backup on Windoze XP....

It's backed up to search.ini.000, atleast on Linux.

confirmed for XP as well
whoo...thanks fractalgp

Originally posted by jonspencerbx
One minor point: My search.ini got overwritten...

You may find in your profiles folder "search.ini.bak" which is your "old" version.
They changed File Version to "6".
Edit your personal search.ini to that version and rename it, you should be fine then.

I hope the changelog will mention the purpose of "browser.js", its location, and that it works independently from the set "userJS" folder.  Some people might wonder why all of a sudden every page on nVidia.com "flickers" on every load; if they find that annoying, they need to know how they can get around it.

Personally, I'm using userCSS to set the padding to 0 on nVidia.com and a couple of other sites, so I renamed "browser.js" to "browser.dis".

hmmm I did change the ver. number but Ill try again

Originally posted by Gspusi
They changed File Version to "6".
Edit your personal search.ini to that version and should be fine.

Or to version 10000 and it will never change...

I hope the changelog will mention the purpose of "browser.js"

browser.js? Where is it?

in the profile folder.

In your Profile folder.

Okay my searches are in my preferences but NOT in my search panel ?

in the profile folder.

Ok. I've got it now. The file was downloaded during checking a new release availability.

I don't have this browser.js file. I installed over 8.01preview, maybe that's why?

edit: Ok, I got it now... The file seems to fix several websites (www.atomfilms.com, www.sony.com, milanrecords.com, szczepienia.pl, peopleclick.com, MSDN, nvidia.com). Nice.

Ok. I've got it now. The file was downloaded during checking a new release availability.

I was just gonna say

When will [url]http://my.opera.com/community/dev/browserjs/ be public (currently it's 404)?

Go to Faz.Net and open an article there.
The site gets unusable,Opera stalls and loads endlessly.
The same happened in Opera 8. No improvement here. Can anybody confirm?
(Faz.net is one of Germanys most reknowned newspapers.)

See also:

[url]http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88191&highlight=faz.net

As it is a very highly frequented site and very popular and the problem did not occur in Opera 7.54, this problem should be solved, I guess, before releasing anything.

YAY!

AICD 2 works better now

--> www.faz.net
Well it's sort of unusable (you can click links), but it stalls and loads endlessly.
At the moment the site stalls after loading image #87 and can't complete request to a1767.g.akamai.net .
CPU is 100% besides RAM is increasing... closing the page takes ages and RAM size don't change after the page is closed.

Perhaps this site could be a browser.js candidate?

--> www.faz.net

Originally posted by Junyor
@Gspusi: More details about browser.js will become available when this release is official.

In the meantime the site seems to work quite well with javascript deactivated.

Any mirrors?

@Grizzbear: The Search panel is no longer related to search.ini. It's a Web page. More details in the changelog next week.

this sadens me but thanks for clearing that up.

So...how can I use my searches other than typing the shortcut in my address bar??

and it would be nice to know a little on how to change this "web page"
The search panel has become obsolete for me.

Any mirrors?

HTTP: [url]http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/opera/
HTTP: [url]http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/www/browsers/opera-windows/801/en/

I do like the Opera Comminty search.
but I just don't know *shaking head*

Originally posted by Grizzbear
and it would be nice to know a little on how to change this "web page"
The search panel has become obsolete for me.

At least you can have a closer look at it: http://search.opera.com/panel/

At least you can have a closer look at it: [url]http://search.opera.com/panel/

Wow Im thrilled. Even know I don't really use any of them>

Something new, I think:
Enter any word to the addressbar, the opened dropdown box will have a "g <your_word>", isn't that new? Another way to google up something...

Something new

Quite right. But how would I change the google engine to say another search engine??

Originally posted by Grizzbear
Quite right. But how would I change the google engine to say another search engine??

tools > preferences > advanced > search

Here you can highlight a different search engine. Hit "ok", and you're done.

M.

tools > preferences > advanced > search

Here you can highlight a different search engine. Hit "ok", and you're done.

M.

right on
Thanks.

2 bugs were fixed. Good job guys, but not enough ;-). No regressions! At least at my page. Hopefully next version will fix another rendering bugs, because some still exists, but 8.01 is on the right direction.

It seems my CPU has come back down to Earth again.
Thank god.

Originally posted by YtseJam
Something new, I think:
Enter any word to the addressbar, the opened dropdown box will have a "g <your_word>", isn't that new? Another way to google up something...

Nice feature, but can I sugggest two possible improvements:
1) instead of g, let it say "google search: <your_word>"
2) List the other search engines as well
g <your_word>
a <your_word>
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This thread's subject was encouraging, but alas. It sure would have been nice to see an actual RC instead of this backdoor maybe-it-is-maybe-it-isn't-RC. This practice of not releasing anything publicly between the last beta and the final -- which often stretches to a month or more -- is unwise at best. Last time, 8.0 "final" was really 8.0 RC.

I verified that the bug with character escapes in URL buttons has been fixed, that's one at least.

My long-standing bug with forms navigation and access keys is still there - you can't use Tab to navigate to forms not on the visible page after a Back or Forward. (since one of the 7.10 previews).

Reloading an error page still adds a new entry to the page history.

@rseiler

Release Candidate means its a candidate for release.
If the past has anything to do with it this will probably become final.

The reason why they release to the forum is to see if they are any "Show Stoppers", major problems.
Usually they are not. Not at first anyway
Though take with a grain of salt.

Originally posted by Grizzbear
@rseiler

Release Candidate means its a candidate for release.
If the past has anything to do with it this will probably become final.

The reason why they release to the forum is to see if they are any "Show Stoppers", major problems.
Usually they are not. Not at first anyway
Though take with a grain of salt.

And when is the last time one of these quiet "final" releases has actually turned out not to be the final in the hours or day or two it takes for them to make a formal announcement? I can't remember. That it didn't happen with 8.0's "final" release is proof that this method doesn't work. What I'm suggesting is an official, publicized, changelog'd, late sanity-check release with more than a couple of hours to see if anything's wrong. WAY too much time has passed since the last (only!) beta release for this "final" to be dumped on us like this.

Originally posted by chaimav
Nice feature, but can I sugggest two possible improvements:
1) instead of g, let it say "google search: <your_word>"
2) List the other search engines as well
g <your_word>
a <your_word>
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::

Try to type "e ipod" or "z harry potter" and see what happens below

The idea was to educate about the "g string" feature when adding the default search in the dropdown (much like IE has done with MSN search for quite a while)

On the good news front, given the months that've passed now, it's comforting to know that Opera is confident that there are only seven sites on the Internet that need compatibility adjustments. I could have sworn there was an order of magnitude or three more than that which could have been easily added to the file for one and all to benefit from, but I must have been wrong. Foot. Shot. In.

pncbank.com=4
online.wellsfargo.com=4
gmail.google.com=1
gmail.com=1
msdn.microsoft.com=2
nwolb.com=4
espn.go.com=1

Originally posted by rseiler
And when is the last time one of these quiet "final" releases has actually turned out not to be the final in the hours or day or two it takes for them to make a formal announcement? I can't remember. That it didn't happen with 8.0's "final" release is proof that this method doesn't work. What I'm suggesting is an official, publicized, changelog'd, late sanity-check release with more than a couple of hours to see if anything's wrong. WAY too much time has passed since the last (only!) beta release for this "final" to be dumped on us like this.

I absolutely have to agree.
Going directly from beta to final doesn't seem very wise to me.

IMO releasing a beta - fixing and changing as much stuff as needed/wanted - releasing a RC - if there are no serious bugs, change only few minor things and release final; otherwise change major bugs or more than a few things - new RC ... - final would be the better and more secure way.