No Opera Mobile 11 for Windows Mobile

No Opera Mobile 11 for Windows Mobile

Today we launched Opera Mobile 11 for Android and Symbian platforms.

The mobile landscape is changing and Microsoft has moved their efforts away from the Windows Mobile operating system. No new devices have been launched for some time and the market share is falling. As a third party developer and a business, that is a reality that Opera Software has to adjust to.

We know there are many Opera fans who have been eagerly awaiting a new version of Opera for your Windows Mobile devices and we are very sorry to disappoint. But the unfortunate fact is that the platform can no longer provide the revenue potential that Opera Software would need to keep investing in it.

Regarding Microsoft's new platform, Windows Phone 7, Opera is continuously evaluating that and other platforms and we will make products available when and where there is a business case for doing so.

Opera Mobile 10 and Opera Mini 5.1 for Windows Mobile will continue to be available for download. We hope to meet you again on another platform in the future.

Thanks for all your support!

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Windows Mobile users still use Opera, just that you do not realize it, many communities have used Windows Mobile, XDA example, if you were there to learn, you'll see a lot of people still use WM, for example: me.

Opera also previously said it would support multiple platforms (including WM), and when Microsoft abandoned WM, Opera as well abandoned WM, how can we believe in the future the same thing does not happen with XP?

Opera's staff can also development Opera for WM in spare time as did with MeeGo, it may not be profitable, but it brings the good image of the Opera for "Opera does not abandoned any platform ", I really hope that!

They dropped development because no new devices were scheduled to be released wth WinMo. No customers, no project.
They did not drop it because there where no users.

The single OS that would have people installing Opera would be WinMo, not iPhone (webkit), Android (webkit), Blackberry 6 (webkit), Windows Phone 7 (blazingly fast IE9 to come this fall)

I guess it will be Opera Mobile without users, not WinMo!

And the question remains: How much would it cost to release a bug-fix version for WinMo? 20, 30, 50 man-days?

PS: Is it really faster to develop for iPhone or Symbian that it is for WinMo?

Originally posted by tsamolotoff:

1. Maybe you should down your tone a notch, especially if you are an Opera employee.

Opera employees have an Opera Software badge next to their names, so no, I'm not an employee. Do you work for Microsoft?

2. Please quantify 'no users'.

Clearly not enough of them to make it worthwhile for Opera to support a dead platform.

As far as I know, there're plenty of them here in Russia.

It's too bad that almost none of them are using Opera, then. Because if they were, Opera's usage stats would show a significant number of users, which would mean continued support for WM.

As for Symbian, I suggest you to read my post instead, how many of these 100 M phones will be able to run the browser? I reckon not too many.

Considering that the context was when Windows Phone 7 will replace Symbian, I'd guess that all of them will be able to run Opera.

Well I definitely think now that you should try your 'remedy' first yourself - Please check what 'Bada' is, there're tons of mass-produced Samsung Bada-devices, especially on the EMEA market.

Simple fact: WM is dead. Bada clearly isn't big enough for an Opera port. MeeGo is not an official Opera project.

Originally posted by tsamolotoff:

And please visit XDA forums and the biggest Russian 4pda.ru to appraise the users number - if you are not trolling now, you'll see that you are mistaken.

The number of users there is most likely infinitely small, because if there were a significant number of users, Opera would know about it.

Originally posted by WebDweller:

Originally posted by Chirpie:

Opera won't last too much longer because it no longer supports a dead OS without users? That's pretty funny

I meant that abandoning users -- for any OS, not just WM -- is bound to have a negative impact on the company's image, esp. if those users have been left with buggy software as a final version.

Not really. The number of users left on dead platforms is so tiny that they won't have a real impact. And if they are going to boycott Opera for not supporting a dead platform, they will have to boycott everyone else too, since most other applications of a certain size and age have dropped support for a platform at some point.

Originally posted by Chirpie:

The problem is that Windows Mobile doesn't have any users anymore. Simple as that.

I see; in other words, those of us who are WM users and have been voicing our objections here don't really exist. Now that is funny!

You don't exist in large numbers. Apparently there are so few of you that it would cost Opera money to keep supporting Opera for WM.

Originally posted by orion0309:

Windows Mobile users still use Opera, just that you do not realize it, many communities have used Windows Mobile, XDA example, if you were there to learn, you'll see a lot of people still use WM, for example: me.

Clearly not enough of them to make it worth wile for Opera.

Opera also previously said it would support multiple platforms (including WM), and when Microsoft abandoned WM, Opera as well abandoned WM, how can we believe in the future the same thing does not happen with XP?

Of course Opera will abandon XP in the future. At some point, it will take too much time to maintain an XP version, and the number of users will be too small, so they'll drop it. The older the OS is, the more it takes to maintain support for it.

And just because Opera said they would support WM doesn't mean that they made a promise to support it for eternity, so please stop making such dishonest claims.

Opera's staff can also development Opera for WM in spare time as did with MeeGo, it may not be profitable, but it brings the good image of the Opera for "Opera does not abandoned any platform ", I really hope that!

You can't force people to do that. MeeGo was done by someone because they had an actual interest in doing so. Clearly, not one has any interest in WM anymore.

Originally posted by ScRePt75:

They did not drop it because there where no users.

I disagree. Since they know how many users there are, that's what they were looking at, compared to how much it takes to maintain a port.

The single OS that would have people installing Opera would be WinMo, not iPhone (webkit), Android (webkit), Blackberry 6 (webkit), Windows Phone 7 (blazingly fast IE9 to come this fall)

Except WM is dead, and hardly has any users left. I bet that Android even at this early stage has several times more users than Opera on WM.

I guess it will be Opera Mobile without users, not WinMo!

That's assuming that Opera's current user base is on WM. That is clearly not the case. If that were the case, they would not be dropping support.

No, clearly, other platforms, such as Android and Symbian, are where Opera Mobile users actually are.

And the question remains: How much would it cost to release a bug-fix version for WinMo? 20, 30, 50 man-days?

Clearly far too long for it to make any sense.

PS: Is it really faster to develop for iPhone or Symbian that it is for WinMo?

iPhone only gets Opera Mini (and iOS is still alive, while WM is dead).

Symbian is still alive, while WM is dead. When Nokia stops releasing Symbian phones, Opera will probably abandon Symbian too.

good damn, what a sad news....

me how belive that opera crew was good people...

you know that WM beat Wp7(how dont have copy/past !!! ,no local(usb) sync and so many removed features !) but you surelly got a "donation" from microsoft, to force people to migrate to this shitty Wp7....

i hope you will change your mind, because us, we will never use Wp7 in is current build.

cya.. (and still love/use opera on all my computer WM phone btw)

Hello,

I just recently bought a Windows Phone 7 device and I am really missing a nice opera browser on it. The IE on it isn't that bad, but I really love Opera. Are there any updates on your WP7 plans?
btw:

@JamesPatageul: the latest update to WP7 (NoDo, released May 3rd) added copy/paste to the OS. Just FYI :-)

Originally posted by JamesPatageul:

me how belive that opera crew was good people...

Opera is a business. Do you really expect them to waste money by supporting a dead OS with hardly any Opera users?

Hi Chris, still commenting on other user's posts?

Originally posted by Horscht86:

Hello,

I just recently bought a Windows Phone 7 device and I am really missing a nice opera browser on it. The IE on it isn't that bad, but I really love Opera. Are there any updates on your WP7 plans?
btw:

@JamesPatageul: the latest update to WP7 (NoDo, released May 3rd) added copy/paste to the OS. Just FYI :-)

yeah me too
I really hope that there will be a release for windows phone 7

Well that's sad. A lot of people still use Windows Mobile, especially business people, as they have their Office Mobile and so on.

But well, Opera decided to support WP7, the Iphone-clone for the masses, so we have to accept it. I will use 5.1 until it gets too old to display webpages properly and after that, I decide if I use the java version of it or another native browser (there are still native browsers out there, thank god we don't need Opera if we don't want too).

Windows Mobile Users can us JZSmartMort to integrate the Java versions of Opera (and other browsers) very easily with file associacions etc. so dropped support isn't that hard as it seems.

I wish have opera mini 6 for windows mobile . Because, I see that OM 6 run faster than OM 5.1 ( sorry ! my english is bad )

this was always going to happen one day. dont care what anyone says, wm is defo on the way out, even though in my eyes its still the best out there. thb, im more than happy with the final opera build so thanks opera for giving us what you have and when i get a new phone i'll no doubt see you on the other side..... ;-)

Well even on mango,there's still no any further release? I'm thinking about to buy a mango phone , but does that mean I have to give up Opera and turn to IE9? ......

Anyone who has a fully unlocked phone should check this out:

www.xda-developers.com/windows_phone/opera-mini-running-on-windows-phone-7/

Rocking great on my HTC Mozart :-)

Good news.
But I still hope that there will be an official version of Opera Mini, because not everyone has a fully unlocked phone

Personally, I love Opera, I'm using it in my desktop computer, on my Windows Mobile device (Opera Mobile 10) and even an unofficial port for Windows Phone 7 on my HTC HD2. I can't beliefe that it's so difficult to release Opera Mobile 11 for Windows Mobile. You have the source code, you have the experience from all previous versions and you released Opera for Windows, Linux, Mac, Android, MeeGo, Nintendo 3DS, Wii, Symbian and iOS. Probably it won't bring you revenue, but it would make you very popular among all current and former Windows Mobile users. How about releasing a new version, officially not supported, "just for testing purposes", beta stage, etc. for Windows Mobile? Many people, including me, would highly appreciate it! I don't need every new release (10.50, 10.60, 11, 11.10, 11.50, 11.60, ...) from now until eternity, but how about a new release every two years or so?

Originally posted by dagolav:

Today we launched Opera Mobile 11 for Android and Symbian platforms.

The mobile landscape is changing and Microsoft has moved their efforts away from the Windows Mobile operating system. No new devices have been launched for some time and the market share is falling. As a third party developer and a business, that is a reality that Opera Software has to adjust to.

We know there are many Opera fans who have been eagerly awaiting a new version of Opera for your Windows Mobile devices and we are very sorry to disappoint. But the unfortunate fact is that the platform can no longer provide the revenue potential that Opera Software would need to keep investing in it.

Regarding Microsoft's new platform, Windows Phone 7, Opera is continuously evaluating that and other platforms and we will make products available when and where there is a business case for doing so.

Opera Mobile 10 and Opera Mini 5.1 for Windows Mobile will continue to be available for download. We hope to meet you again on another platform in the future.

Thanks for all your support!

Hello

I have Opera Mini and Opera 10 for Windows Mobile (6.1 Pro). So far everything have worked me perfectly, but I have a few days that I can not synchronize my bookmarks. I insert the username and password, connects to the server, but get me a message that the authentication system is temporarily unavailable. Is there a problem?. I would like to transfer new built-in bookmarks in Opera Mini to Opera 10, and I can not do this problem indicated.

Greetings and thanks,

There many people all over the world are still using XP. Why? There're too many reasons I cannot talk about in details here. It doesn't mean people don't like upgrading to new Operating System. But they NEED to stay back for many reasons. Here in Win Mob 6.5, just like me, I cannot upgrade to Win Phone 7 and I MUST stay back in 6.5, because there're too many data stored in 6.5 that 7 doesn't support. Thus migrating to 7 is impossible, unless 7 supports the softwares in 6.5.

Opera, such a good and famous browser worldwide running in Win Mob 6 ages, now obviously leaves fans behind who actually look for the very basic enhancement in handling webpages with javascript support and bookmark sync with pc to keep Opera the best browser in the world without hesitation.

well, with flash support at least.

Well, it's a sad news but PLEASE Opera people, maybe WM is dead OS, but there are still people with phones running on WM (as not everyone can afford to change their 1-2 years old phone to a new one). I have Samsung Omnia with stock ROM WinMo 6.1 Pro with pre-installed Opera 9.5 (Do you know how to remove that cuz I already have Opera Mobile 10, which run so far so great). To be honest, I love my phone and WinMo even it's dead, is a very very stable OS (agreed or not, thats a FACT). Can you please at least make an EFFORT to fix known bugs reported so far by as I can see, I huge number of people here. I know that fixing bugs for an already made product is much easier and doesn't need huge resources, than to made a brand new version of the same product. I think Opera Desktop and Opera Mobile supporters deserve at least this much.
Or I have another suggestion: Now that you abandoned Opera Mobile for WM, that means that it's dead. Why don't you open some thread where freelance developers can fix the known bugs with Opera Mobile 10 and you guys can later check if their fixes are working an release, lets say Opera Mobile 10 FINAL?
I have another question too: If OM10 will remain like this as it is, will we the OM10 users on WinMo can still searching through OM10 or that support will be dead too in the near future like SkyFire did with their latest version 1.5? Hope you understand my question.

All the best from Republic of Macedonia

Just got a lumia 800 . First thing I did was to go here to get opera. Imagine my disappointment. Please make it for mango. Please....

no one is here to listen the problem of windows mobile users.

so plz don't expect anthing from opera team.

Originally posted by mhamu2:

no one is here to listen the problem of windows mobile users.

so plz don't expect anthing from opera team.

Hello

Unfortunately I think that users of Windows Mobile (my dear Windows Mobile, which I love and still use) do us not case... have forgotten us. to my me nor answer nobody, but I will continue using Windows Mobile.

Best regards

me 2

Now it's more than a year dagolav opened this topic.
So are there any intentions to develop Opera Mobile or Mini for WP7?
Or WP7 is still too small to worth it?

Originally posted by dagolav:

......
We know there are many Opera fans who have been eagerly awaiting a new version of Opera for your Windows Mobile devices and we are very sorry to disappoint. But the unfortunate fact is that the platform can no longer provide the revenue potential that Opera Software would need to keep investing in it.

Regarding Microsoft's new platform, Windows Phone 7, Opera is continuously evaluating that and other platforms and we will make products available when and where there is a business case for doing so.
.......

This has been a bad judgement call (I think...) but is there now any hope for us Lumia users?

f*** no new version

Originally posted by linkdead:

Just got a lumia 800 . First thing I did was to go here to get opera. Imagine my disappointment. Please make it for mango. Please....

Me too!!

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Originally posted by B-Design:

Are you KIDDING ME Opera? You probably have millions in your budget and you think we can believe your crap about not having money?

They have money because they didn't waste it on dead and useless platforms like Windows Mobile.

After 10 years of loyalty to Opera and this is what I get?

You really need a clue. One guy's so-called "loyalty" won't pay Opera's bills. Are YOU going to pay for a Windows Mobile update? Are you going to tell Opera to pull significant resources from other and more useful projects? Laughable.

Originally posted by Chirpie:

Originally posted by B-Design:

Are you KIDDING ME Opera? You probably have millions in your budget and you think we can believe your crap about not having money?

They have money because they didn't waste it on dead and useless platforms like Windows Mobile.

After 10 years of loyalty to Opera and this is what I get?

You really need a clue. One guy's so-called "loyalty" won't pay Opera's bills. Are YOU going to pay for a Windows Mobile update? Are you going to tell Opera to pull significant resources from other and more useful projects? Laughable.

Yes dude, before Opera was for money, and I spend money to buy their browser. I was talking about that loyalty, something that you obviously don't or won't understand. However, there are millions of phones that still use WM, thanks to cooks from xda-developers and modaco.
Are you an official Opera representative? Do you or have you ever own a WM phone or what phone do you own now? If not, then you are on a wrong thread.
Why they still don't have version for WP7 phones? Thats a new platform, even it is a platform who is growing and developing.
I said i will pay for Opera browser for WM, not for WM OS. If MS decides to make upgraded version of WM, like WM7 (not WP7) I would pay for that too.
Opera offers their browsers for free, so it is normal to expect people would ask for an updated versions also for free. If this is their only source of money, then make it for money, I'm sure people will buy it even if its like 10-15 euros, but when people buy apps like that, they expected perfections, no bugs, etc.
WM is a useless platform? hahaha LOOL, How old you are? WM is considered still as one of the best and stable platforms for business and smartphones. What WM have or had, Android still couldn't reach it, even with the Android ICS 4.0. Google a bit, read a bit, maybe then you will understand some things.
I know that Opera won't make upgraded version of their Opera Mobile 10 Final or Opera Mini 5.1, but that doesn't mean I can't speak what I feel. But I'm pretty sure when MS realize that they made a huge mistake killing WM in favor to their stupid WP and they pool back WM for further development, then Opera would make upgraded versions for mobile and mini. I really hope MS will come to senses and return WM to the market along with their WP.

ageed with one thing windows mobile is not useless.

it is good os.

m still using it.

workng superb

Originally posted by Perryking:

Originally posted by linkdead:

Just got a lumia 800 . First thing I did was to go here to get opera. Imagine my disappointment. Please make it for mango. Please....

Me too!!

Me Too

Originally posted by Perryking:

Originally posted by linkdead:

Just got a lumia 800 . First thing I did was to go here to get opera. Imagine my disappointment. Please make it for mango. Please....

Me too!!

Me Too

Without Opera, my Nokia Lumia 800 are just another crappy phone, like all others!
Opera, Do something!
Audun
No(r)way

Может. всё таки будет Opera 11 for windows mobile 6.5 ?

i think their still sleeping wait untill they get up..

lol windows mobile--no chance

windows phone.....

just wait

Windows Phone is not needed.
WM 4ever!

still no hope for Opera Mobile for WP 7.8 ?

WP7 is old. The future is WP8! I'm using a lumia 820 and even if ie10 mobile is probably the best mobile browser ever made, I really miss my 40+ speed dial sites...

the wp8 environment is growing very fast, opera shouldn't lose this chance... It's already too late they must enter in this market asap

I have WP8, what opera mobile version available for WP8 ?

Win Phone != Win Mobile! Why you are posting here?

Originally posted by NoPH8:

Win Phone != Win Mobile! Why you are posting here?

Is it wrong ?

Originally posted by hary66s:

Originally posted by NoPH8:

Win Phone != Win Mobile! Why you are posting here?

Is it wrong ?

YES it is wrong!!! What's the title of this thread? Windows Mobile or Windows Phone?
Windows Mobile is one OS, Windows Phone is totally different OS. The only common thing they have is cuz both are made from Microsoft.
This is thread for Windows Mobile OS and possible Opera Mobile 11 for it, which is not going to happen, cuz WM is dropped by Microsoft in favor of the new Windows Phone 7.
Latest Windows Mobile version is Windows Mobile 6.5.5 Pro.
Latest stable version of Opera Mobile for WM is Opera Mobile 10.
So stop asking or posting about Opera Mobile for Windows Phone.

Wrong answer ....

I have WP8, what opera mobile version available for WP8 ?

Originally posted by hary66s:

Wrong answer ....

I have WP8, what opera mobile version available for WP8 ?

Wrong Answer? Are you f-ing serious?
This is OPERA MOBILE 11 FOR WINDOWS MOBILE THREAD, Not WINDOWS PHONE!
What is not clear to you here?
With your phone browser go to m.opera.com and find out if it's a version for your phone. That is your best solution, or go to Opera for Mobile page.
Jesus Christ people, do a little research before you ask questions here.

P.S Here is the link for Opera Mobile Download Wizard, just choose your phone model and see whats the latest version for your phone and OS. If your phone is not listed there, then there is no Opera Mobile for your phone or OS.