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23. March 2011, 22:05:16

katsung47

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Al Qaida and Wikileaks

655. Bin Laden and Julian Assange, False flag and living plant (12/7/2010)

On 12/4, I wrote an article "Wiki-Leaks is another false flag" and posted it in APFN. One hour later, I was surprised to find the topic was replied by Julian Assange. I don't think it was Assange himself did it. He is on the run. Most likely it is the work of his handler - the Feds. The purpose is to link me to a would be "criminal". Assange is a living plant like Bin Laden. Here is the topic:


Wiki-Leaks is another false flag ?kathaksung, Sat Dec 4 09:27

* Thats not all, Netanyahu said.... ?Percy, Sat Dec 4 18:52

o Julian Assange answers your questions ?Julian Assange, Sat Dec 4 10:24

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=134449;title=APFN



Bin Laden is a living plant.

In 1990, Soviet bloc collapsed. US intelligence turned its resource which used to deal with Soviet bloc to the new target - Mid-east countries which are rich in natural resource. Bin Laden, an asset of the CIA in Afghanistan war(against Russian), was revived in this new project as a false flag - Islamic extremist. He went to Sudan first in 1991.

The Sudanese offered to arrest Bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi Arabia .

http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm



Saudi and US didn't take the offer with various excuse because Bin Laden is a living plant they deployed there.

In 1995, Bin Laden tried to set up a connection with Saddam but was refused.

Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam, al Qaida

A September 2006 report by the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that Saddam was "distrustful of al Qaida and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al Qaida to provide material or operational support."

The Senate report, citing an FBI debriefing of a senior Iraqi spy, Faruq Hijazi , said that Saddam turned down a request for assistance by bin Laden which he made at a 1995 meeting in Sudan with an Iraqi operative.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080310/wl_mcclatchy/2875005



Sudan may have felt the danger to accomodate Bin Laden. In May 1996, the Sudanese asked bin Laden to leave. He went to Afghan and stay there until now.

In August 1998, Sudan and Afghanistan were bombed by US missiles.

In 2001, after 911, Afghan, facing US invasion, made an offer but failed.

Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over
* Taliban demand evidence of Bin Laden's guilt

guardian.co.uk, Sunday 14 October 2001 22.19 BST

http://www.politic.co.uk/18142-remember-osama.html



In Bin Laden's recent 20 years, the countries he went or tried to go, have something in common: They all have rich natural resources. Sudan and Iraq have oil. Afghan has rich mine. '


Afghanistan to develop $3 trillion in mining potential
DUBAI | Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:14pm
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69O3JP20101025



He didn't go to Yemen, Somali or Syria for his "revolution" because they are resource poor countries, not in US interest list. He didn't go to Saudi or Kuwait. Because they are US allies. He only went to Sudan, Afghan, or Iraq (intended to) because these three countries were not controlled by US at that time. As a living plant, he gave US the excuse to activate attack on these three countries. (Even Saddam realized that Bin Laden was a dangerous living plant and rejected him, Iraq at last was invaded with an unexisted WMD)

Julian Assange is another false flag and living plant. The target is not to control natural resource but to control the free speech kindom - the Internet. If you have noticed that in last month, the events come with the Wiki-leaks' third leaking. '

The 19 Senators Who Voted To Censor The Internet
from the free-speech-isn't-free dept

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101118/10291211924/the-19-senators-who-voted-to-censor-the-internet.shtml



US Government seizure of the internet has begun; DHS takes over 76 websites

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/030542_censorship_internet.html#ixzz17BCGjPeM



WIKILEAKS will leak 250.000 documents sunday nov 28
Sat Nov 27, 2010

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=134278;title=APFN;pagemark=60



What will be their next step? Feds will upgrade the secret level of the leaking document to their puppet Assange. That will finally justify the legitimate of control of the Internet. When you saw that Wiki-Leaks is moving from this server to that, this web site to other, do you realize all these sites could be potential victims of the next wave of Internet censorship and seizure? Assange does same thing Bin Laden has done.

I always say that I am the most wanted of the Feds. Though I am always under the surveillance of the Feds, to set up an internet communication with a "criminal" could justify their action and turn an unreasonable search into a reasonable one. On 12/5, (next day that Assange post reply to my article) A working van of "Direct TV" parked at my front door. Technician installed something in my neighbor's house. (we share one roof and the wall) I think that they were installing detective instrument. My neighbor has had a dish satellite antenna already.

24. March 2011, 00:56:32

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katsung47, wouldn't you be more comfortable posting in an Arabic forum? smile Failing that, you could try al Jazeera's English channels … Or perhaps the BBC?
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Or you could get a hobby…
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24. March 2011, 03:51:16

Macallan

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Now where have we seen this kind of paranoid conspiracy theories before? sherlock
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24. March 2011, 16:54:24

grysmn

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Whatever benifits Islam is the truth. Everyone has a perception problem in getting it. As long as you keep the conspiricy theories in perspective they can be fun and perhaps give an insight. When reality becomes confused with a pretend reality to the point that it effects your interaction with others it becomes an illness whether the you is an individual or a culture.

25. March 2011, 11:23:48

johnnysaucepn

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No, Julian Assange didn't reply to your post. Some anonymous user posted a reprint of a Guardian article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/julian-assange-wikileaks

2. April 2011, 20:08:14

katsung47

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Wiki-Leaks is another false flag

1. It doesn't leak any important secret of dirty insiders of US government.

2. It provokes Iran and other Arab countries. (News that Saudi king asking US to attack Iran)

3. This time the likely purpose is to justify war on Iran

Quote, "
Quote:
WikiLeaks: Iran 'obtains North Korea missiles which can strike Europe'
Iran has obtained ballistic missiles from North Korea that could be used to strike Western Europe, the leaked files suggest.
By Duncan Gardham, Security Correspondent 29 Nov 2010
"

6. April 2011, 09:06:11

anonymousJ

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regarding wikileaks how can you be certain assange is a plant and government's (USA and UK) are actively feeding this rather than simply taking advantage of the situation. anyhow I think you will find some kindred spirits at http://www.abovetopsecret.com but keep investigating and keep posting here - people need to stop treating conspiracy as a dirty word.

10. April 2011, 20:18:43

katsung47

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It’s like a provocation from the disinformation office of Pentagon.

Quote, “WikiLeaks row: China wants Korean reunification, officials confirm

Chinese officials speak after Guardian US embassy cables reveal Beijing is leaning towards acceptance of reunification under Seoul's control

Simon Tisdall guardian.co.uk,
Tuesday 30 November 2010

China supports the "independent and peaceful reunification of the Korean peninsula in the long term" and cannot afford to give the North Korean regime the impression it has a blank cheque to act any way it wants, Chinese officials based in Europe said today.

The officials, who asked not to be identified, spoke after the Guardian reported that senior figures in Beijing, exasperated with North Korea acting like a "spoiled child", had told South Korean counterparts China was leaning towards acceptance of reunification under Seoul's control.

China's moves to distance itself from the North Korean regime were revealed in the latest tranche of leaked US embassy cables obtained by WikiLeaks and published yesterday by the Guardian and four international newspapers.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/30/china-wants-korean-reunification

17. April 2011, 00:46:22

katsung47

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He has other targets.

Quote, "Julian Assange says WikiLeaks wants to expose China and Russia as much as US

In interview, Assange denies US focus and says WikiLeaks can be force for opening up closed countries like China and Russia

Jo Adetunji guardian.co.uk, Thursday 2 December 2010

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange wanted to expose China's and Russia's secrets as much as those of the US, and believes Hillary Clinton should resign if she ordered diplomats to engage in espionage.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/02/julian-assange-wikileaks-china-russia

27. April 2011, 01:14:54

katsung47

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He once worked for Pentagon.

10/12/01 Quote, "Julian Assange Fired From IT Job At Pentagon

December 1, 2010 | ISSUE 46?48


ARLINGTON, VA¡ªWith officials describing his publication of sensitive U.S. State Department documents as "the last straw," Wikileaks founder Julian Assange was asked to resign from his position as the Pentagon's IT coordinator Monday. "We gave him his first warning after the whole Iraq and Afghanistan war diaries thing, and strike two was when he forwarded that video montage of Nicolas Cage yelling to the entire staff," Defense Department human resources director Curtis Shannon said. "But we just can't overlook this latest offense. Even if he's the only one who knows where the spare USB cables are." At press time, Assange had already been invited to interview for an IT position at the Central Intelligence Agency.



http://forum.grasscity.com/general/707863-julian-assange-fired-job-pentagon.html

27. April 2011, 18:16:47

Macallan

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Originally posted by johnnysaucepn:

And you don't recognise parody and satire when you see it? Figures.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/julian-assange-fired-from-it-job-at-pentagon,18572/


The Onion is obviously part of the conspiracy. Just ask them, they'll happily admit it. Or deny it. Either way proves they're in on it right
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27. April 2011, 19:14:47

rjhowie

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The latest leaks show some troubling maters concerning prisoners kept for a long time and no trial. One a 14 year old boy and the other a man of nearly 90 who has senile dementia (!) and kind of making a farce of the business.

6. May 2011, 20:50:54

katsung47

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Julian Assange wined and dined at US Embassy

Julian Assange was a guest at a US Embassy cocktail party less than a year ago.

To the United States, Julian Assange may now be Public Enemy Number One. Some American politicians have even called for his execution.

But less than a year ago, the founder of WikiLeaks was officially entertained at a US Embassy cocktail party by one of the very diplomats whose secrets he would soon spill to the world.

At the reception, held at the US ambassador's residence in Reykjavik, Iceland, Mr Assange chatted with Sam Watson, the embassy's deputy chief of mission.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8197890/Julian-Assange-wined-and-dined-at-US-Embassy.html?sms_ss=facebook&at_x%20t=4d065fce467b17fe%2C0

16. May 2011, 20:23:40

katsung47

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They choose Wikileaks to release the following news:

Wikileaks: Al-Qaeda plotted chemical and nuclear attack on the West

Guantanamo interrogators have uncovered a determined attempt by al-Qaeda to attack Western countries using chemical or nuclear weapons, according to the top-secret files.

By Holly Watt 6:45AM BST 26 Apr 2011

One of the terrorist group’s most senior figures warned that al-Qaeda had obtained and hidden a nuclear bomb in Europe that would be detonated if Osama bin Laden was killed or captured.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8472810/Wikileaks-Al-Qaeda-plotted-chemical-and-nuclear-attack-on-the-West.html



What does this news mean?
1. Al Qaida have nuke bomb. They didn't use it because Bin Laden was not killed of captured.

2. They knew Bin Laden would be killed so they issued a warning five days before the operation.

3. This news was used to justify a nuke terror attack in the name of "revenge for Bin Laden". But the organization to release the news revealed it was a pre-arranged "provocation action". It proved what I said at the begining of this thread: ". Bin Laden and Julian Assange, False flag and living plant "

18. May 2011, 04:55:12

thedawgfan

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Originally posted by katsung47:

They knew Bin Laden would be killed so they issued a warning five days before the operation.


Considering just last week you were posting about how the bastard was dead, it's amazing the u-turn you've made?
Come on now Kathsung47, I know that possibly someone on this forum is dying for some more CopyPasta.

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27. May 2011, 22:03:29

katsung47

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Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by katsung47:

They knew Bin Laden would be killed so they issued a warning five days before the operation.


Considering just last week you were posting about how the bastard was dead, it's amazing the u-turn you've made?
Come on now Kathsung47, I know that possibly someone on this forum is dying for some more CopyPasta.

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They knew "Bin Laden would be killed" means that they knew there would be a "Geronimo Operation" in advance. It doesn't equal that I agree with them. I think Al Qaida work for the US intelligence.

When Feds need war in Mid-east, Al Qaida came to help. That was 911 attack which gave them an excuse to start war in Afghan and Iraq. When the Feds can’t convince the public that they killed Bin Laden in “Geronimo Operation”, Al Qaida came out again to prove their master is correct.

Al-Qaida confirms Osama bin Laden's death
Saturday, May 07, 2011


NEW YORK -- Al-Qaida on Friday confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden and warned of retaliation, saying Americans' "happiness will turn to sadness."
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/national_world&id=8115703



Al Qaida, confirms Bin Laden's death while a lot of people suspect it's another hoax of the US government. Did Al Qadia join the "kill Bin Laden operation"? Have they got the DNA testing result? Or, more likely, it's just an order from their US master to help them to strenthen the lie?

One thing else was that Al Qaida seems to have access to the toppest secret of US government. They knew "kill Bin Laden Operation" in advance.

Quote, "

Al-Qaeda Threatens to Unleash ‘Nuclear Hellstorm’ if bin Laden Caught

Posted by Ingrid Turner on Apr 25, 2011

Guantanamo Bay, Cuba (NEWSTABULOUS) – According to news reported by WikiLeaks, threats have been received from al-Qaeda terrorists, stating that they will “unleash a nuclear hellstorm” upon Western countries if Osama bin Laden is ever caught or killed.

http://newstabulous.com/al-qaeda-threatens-to-unleash-nuclear-hellstorm-if-bin-laden-caught/9761/






WikiLeaks: Al-Qaida Has Nuclear Weapons
Author: ICWN | Monday, April 25th, 2011


The militant group al-Qaeda claims to have nuclear weapons and did not hesitate to use them if their leader, Osama bin Laden captured or killed by the United States. Not yet known exactly where al-Qaeda’s nuclear weapons are stored, but are found in Europe.


http://icwnews.com/hot-news/1790/wikileaks-al-qaida-has-nuclear-weapons.html



Five days before May 1st, Wikileaks and Al Qaida knew of “Bin Laden’s death” would have happened and announced a warning. The news is a clumsy product of the “disinformation office” of the Feds. It means:

1. Al Qaida have nuclear weapon. They haven’t used it because Bin Laden hadn’t been caught or killed.
2. Wikileaks and Al Qaida knew Bin Laden would be killed several days later so issued a warning.

Al Qaida are so powerful that they knew everything, have everything and can do everything even though they are chased from the cave to cave, because they have the Magic Lantern of Alladin. They always come out in time when the Feds need them. They activated 911 attack to help justify Mid-east war. This time, will they have a nuke attack to justify war on Iran?

8. June 2011, 02:25:28

katsung47

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To ask for more money and power from people, they have to keep a scene of war. If there is no enemy, they create one, or maintain a forgery one.

Quote, "Helicopter Rumour Refuses to Die

Many Afghans believe foreign forces providing support for insurgents in the north.
By Ahmad Kawoosh - Afghanistan
ARR Issue 343, 2 Nov 09

Persistent accounts of western forces in Afghanistan using their helicopters to ferry Taleban fighters, strongly denied by the military, is feeding mistrust of the forces that are supposed to be bringing order to the country.

One such tale came from a soldier from the 209th Shahin Corps of the Afghan National Army, fighting against the growing insurgency in Kunduz province in northern Afghanistan. Over several months, he had taken part in several pitched battles against the armed opposition.

“Just when the police and army managed to surround the Taleban in a village of Qala-e-Zaal district, we saw helicopters land with support teams,” he said. “They managed to rescue their friends from our encirclement, and even to inflict defeat on the Afghan National Army.”

This story, in one form or another, is being repeated throughout northern Afghanistan. Dozens of people claim to have seen Taleban fighters disembark from foreign helicopters in several provinces. The local talk is of the insurgency being consciously moved north, with international troops ferrying fighters in from the volatile south, to create mayhem in a new location.

Helicopters are almost exclusively the domain of foreign forces in Afghanistan – the international military controls the air space, and has a virtual monopoly on aircraft. So when Afghans see choppers, they think foreign military.

http://iwpr.net/report-news/helicopter-rumour-refuses-die

9. June 2011, 01:15:15

Spongg

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[quote the humorous katsung47]Al Qaida are so powerful that they knew everything, have everything and can do everything even though they are chased from the cave to cave, because they have the Magic Lantern of Alladin. [/quote]

I take it that Bin Laden's batteries were flat on May the second then ... lol
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19. June 2011, 18:22:42

katsung47

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They only let you know what they want you to know.

Quote, "How Many US SEALs Died? (Apparently, Plenty)
Paul Craig Roberts
5-25-11

In a sensational and explosive TV report, the Pakistani News Agency has provided a live interview with an eye witness to the US attack on the alleged compound of Osama bin Laden. The eye witness, Mohammad Bashir, describes the event as it unfolded. Of the three helicopters, "there was only one that landed the men and came back to pick them up, but as he [the helicopter] was picking them up, it (caught fire and blew up)." The witness says that there were no survivors, just dead bodies and pieces of bodies everywhere. "We saw the helicopter burning, we saw the dead bodies, then everything was removed and now there is nothing."

I always wondered how a helicopter could crash, as the White House reported, without at least producing injuries. Yet, in the original White House story, the SEALs not only survived a 40-minute firefight with al Qaeda, "the most highly trained, most dangerous, most vicious killers on the planet," without a scratch, but also survived a helicopter crash without a scratch.

...........
The mainstream media and a significant portion of the Internet are content for our perceptions to be managed by psy-ops and by non-reporting. This is why I wrote not long ago that today Americans are living in George Orwell's 1984.

http://www.rense.com/general94/howmany.htm

19. June 2011, 19:56:43 (edited)

string

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Well he clearly got it wrong; the key is in the name of the beings that did the operation, The Seals.

They actually landed in a Flying Boat, the helicopter being a clever diversion. I would give a link to that report but if I did I would have to water myself down.

The remains found at the sight of the helicopter were not bodies, they were discarded hamburgers.
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19. June 2011, 20:36:00

tt92

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I find the news from Pakistan much more reliable than the BBC.

19. June 2011, 21:57:43

mjmsprt40

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Originally posted by string:

Well he clearly got it wrong; the key is in the name of the beings that did the operation, The Seals.

They actually landed in a Flying Boat, the helicopter being a clever diversion. I would give a link to that report but if I did I would have to water myself down.

The remains found at the sight of the helicopter were not bodies, they were discarded hamburgers.



Question: Do they still use Flying Boats? The last ones I knew about were the Catalinas of WW2, since then more modern equipment has replaced the Flying Boat.
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20. June 2011, 07:56:09

string

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Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

Originally posted by string:

Well he clearly got it wrong; the key is in the name of the beings that did the operation, The Seals.

They actually landed in a Flying Boat, the helicopter being a clever diversion. I would give a link to that report but if I did I would have to water myself down.

The remains found at the sight of the helicopter were not bodies, they were discarded hamburgers.



Question: Do they still use Flying Boats? The last ones I knew about were the Catalinas of WW2, since then more modern equipment has replaced the Flying Boat.

A straight answer - I don't follow the genre, although see here, but now and then one sees them in use. They are used in Canada as far as I know - see here for example.

In the spirit of this thread, however, I can reveal that the Seals have Stealth Flying Boats, or to use the technical term "Splashless". This is why they were not detected by Pakistani authorities when they landed in Osama's swimming pool.
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20. June 2011, 11:53:29

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If you have ever carried a rubber boat through wet sand for a while., You will realize you don't need any of the more advertised weapons of war to eliminate a adversary..... In fact a nice Glock killing knife will do.
Its all about planning.

I want to announce That Bin laden is not dead....... after being dumped, and I sincerely hope he was dumped with the proper ceremony, he was rescued by a mere handful of luscious maidens and spirited away to Canada.

21. June 2011, 15:35:11

mjmsprt40

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Originally posted by string:

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

Originally posted by string:

Well he clearly got it wrong; the key is in the name of the beings that did the operation, The Seals.

They actually landed in a Flying Boat, the helicopter being a clever diversion. I would give a link to that report but if I did I would have to water myself down.

The remains found at the sight of the helicopter were not bodies, they were discarded hamburgers.



Question: Do they still use Flying Boats? The last ones I knew about were the Catalinas of WW2, since then more modern equipment has replaced the Flying Boat.

A straight answer - I don't follow the genre, although see here, but now and then one sees them in use. They are used in Canada as far as I know - see here for example.

In the spirit of this thread, however, I can reveal that the Seals have Stealth Flying Boats, or to use the technical term "Splashless". This is why they were not detected by Pakistani authorities when they landed in Osama's swimming pool.



OK, I didn't get into the proper silly-season mode for this thread. I looked up Flying Boats since the last time, and as you have in your links they're still in use-- for fire fighting, where they have great advantages. As military weapons they might be found a bit wanting. Heavy, slow and hard to maneuver, great big targets which even relatively weak anti-aircraft technology should be able to bring down.
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29. June 2011, 22:05:04

katsung47

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Clinton admits the U.S government created and funded Al-Qaeda? TubeTruthers.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzgW75tQj58

22. July 2011, 21:21:25

katsung47

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26 April 2011
.'Al-Qaeda assassin worked for MI6', secret cables claim

An alleged al-Qaeda militant suspected of bombing a luxury hotel and two churches in Pakistan in 2002 was an informer for MI6, it has been claimed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13191959

27. July 2011, 23:03:35

Spongg

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Originally posted by katsung47:

Clinton admits the U.S government created and funded Al-Qaeda? TubeTruthers.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzgW75tQj58



Basil Brush admits the U.K. government created and funded the Wombles? SpackoSponggers.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXVZPchzYGU

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27. July 2011, 23:07:07

Spongg

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Originally posted by katsung47:

26 April 2011
.'Al-Qaeda assassin worked for MI6', secret cables claim

An alleged al-Qaeda militant suspected of bombing a luxury hotel and two churches in Pakistan in 2002 was an informer for MI6, it has been claimed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13191959



That must have been James Bond's younger brother Jimmy Bond ... or maybe Benny Hill special agent for Unigate!!!
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3. August 2011, 00:50:38

Spongg

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The Salvation Army is run by MI6.

I kill you ...
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3. August 2011, 01:14:15

Spongg

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Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

I looked up Flying Boats since the last time, and as you have in your links they're still in use-- for fire fighting, where they have great advantages. As military weapons they might be found a bit wanting. Heavy, slow and hard to maneuver, great big targets which even relatively weak anti-aircraft technology should be able to bring down.



Not necessarily, I believe that during WW2 no Sunderlands were lost to enemy action.
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3. August 2011, 19:42:56

mjmsprt40

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Originally posted by katsung47:

Al Qaeda is run by The Pentagon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8txxny-E7w



I tried-- I really tried-- to view this clip. I managed less than half of it before having to shut it off.

How much of what, exactly, do you have to be drinking to believe this stuff???? For all the fact that I'm a conservative Republican, I've had to get away from Rush Limbaugh for much the same reasons--- too much nonsense. Listening to this garbage will give you hangnails, so help me.

You have to be really, really drunk to get into a proper frame to absorb this stuff and believe it.
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3. August 2011, 19:46:12

mjmsprt40

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Originally posted by Spongg:

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

I looked up Flying Boats since the last time, and as you have in your links they're still in use-- for fire fighting, where they have great advantages. As military weapons they might be found a bit wanting. Heavy, slow and hard to maneuver, great big targets which even relatively weak anti-aircraft technology should be able to bring down.



Not necessarily, I believe that during WW2 no Sunderlands were lost to enemy action.



On the other hand, we did lose some PBYs during that war. I would have to look up whether any were lost to enemy action in flight, but for sure we lost some on the ground at Pearl Harbor. I guess that's not really fair to mention though, very few American planes of any kind got airborne that day, most were destroyed on the ground.
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3. August 2011, 20:08:26

Spongg

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Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

On the other hand, we did lose some PBYs during that war. I would have to look up whether any were lost to enemy action in flight, but for sure we lost some on the ground at Pearl Harbor. I guess that's not really fair to mention though, very few American planes of any kind got airborne that day, most were destroyed on the ground.



The RAF (Coastal Command) flew quite a few Catalinas, I've seen one in a museum. It was quite a large plane, although the Sunderlands were even bigger. I think the Sunderlands were very heavily armed with defensive guns. The Luftwaffe called them 'flying porcupines' & tended to give them a wide berth.
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6. August 2011, 06:57:48

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See here and here
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12. August 2011, 22:48:39

katsung47

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Formation Of Al Qaida: US-Israel Collaboration
Posted on 30. Jul, 2010 by Raja Mujtaba in World News

[Translate]
SPECIAL REPORT: The top secret Israeli-US program to establish “Al Qaeda”

By Wayne Madsen

Press clips gathered by the CIA and discovered in the National Archives’ stored CIA files point to an agency keenly interested in any leaks about the highly-classified CIA-Mossad program to establish Osama Bin Laden and the most radical elements of the Afghan Mujahidin as the primary leaders of the anti-Soviet rebels in the 1980s.

WMR has pored through the CIA files and a complicated picture emerges of America’s and Israel’s top intelligence agencies, in cahoots with Saudi Arabia, establishing financial links and carve out intelligence programs to provide manpower and financial support to Bin Laden and his allies in Afghanistan. It was these very elements that later created the so-called “Al Qaeda,” which the late British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook described as nothing more than a “database” of CIA front organizations, financial supporters, and field operatives. However, one component omitted by Cook in the Al Qaeda construct is the Israeli participation.

http://www.opinion-maker.org/2010/07/formation-of-al-qaida-us-israel-collaboration/

14. August 2011, 02:09:12

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Originally posted by katsung47:

... which the late British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook described as nothing more than a “database” of CIA front organizations, financial supporters, and field operatives.



Ah, gotcha there katsung! bigeyes If Robin Cook was indeed deceased, he couldn't have described anything at all on the grounds that he was too busy pushing up daisies. rip whistle
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24. August 2011, 00:09:27

katsung47

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Al Qaida and Mujahedeen

Bin Laden was an asset of CIA and was used to fight against Soviet Union in 80s. At that time Bin Laden's group was called as Majahideen. Qaida was used as a data base in communiction.

In early 90, when Soviet Union collapsed, US intelligence turned its resource on to Mid-east countries which are rich in oil resource, they revive the retired asset - Bin Laden. Bin Laden returned to Islamic world trying to provoke a conflict so that US could justify an interference and invasion.

On 2001, when US inside group had their puppet Bush to be the president, the war was ready. 911 was done to justify the war. To prevent people to link the "terror attack" with Islamic fannatic (Mujahedeen) and CIA, US intelligence then starts to use "Al Qaida" as "terrorist" group to justify the "war on terror". Since then, they blame every terror attack on "Al qaida". Al Qaida could be viewed as a group of special opratives commanded by US intelligence. Their mission is to activate false flag terror attack on civilians to justify US military action.

What Al Qaida did - bombing WTC, killing US civilians on 911, and bombing innocent civilians in Iraq, all targetted at ordinary people. It tarnished Islam as savage, inhuman, cruel. Who benefited? Who expanded the police power by Patriot Act? Who got fat budget? If you can answer these questions, then you know what is Al Qaida - a tool of US intelligence.

24. August 2011, 19:14:14

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I don't suppose anyone is terribly interested, but some character called kathaksungthe same identical drivel on 10-06-2010, as far as I can be bothered to read it.
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24. August 2011, 19:30:26

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... which is why his last incarnation was banned for spamming.
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25. August 2011, 05:53:23

Macallan

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Originally posted by Jax:

Banned by China or USA?


Probably both, with some help by Shin Bet, GSG9 and our reptilian overlords right
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4. September 2011, 22:13:05

katsung47

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It's a western made.


Quote:
Al Qaeda in Yemen is "Western-made"
Declaration of Yemeni Prime Minister
Global Research, November 7, 2010

Yemeni Prime Minister Ali Muhammed al-Mujawar said Saturday that al-Qaida was originally a Western-made group and was never created by his country, Xinhua reported according to the state-run Saba news agency.

The prime minister's remarks were made during a meeting in the capital Sanaa with ambassadors of Asian and African countries to Yemen to clarify Yemen's stance against those who propagated negative impacts on Yemen over the bomb parcels shipped to the United States last week.

"Al-Qaida was essentially a Western-made group and was never created by Yemen, it is alleged by those who seek to propagate this view internationally about Yemen," Saba quoted Mujawar as saying.

The Yemen-based al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) on Friday claimed responsibility for the bomb parcels that targeted the United States.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21803

19. September 2011, 22:00:54

katsung47

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U.S. GOVT. GIVES TALIBAN A BILLION $ - CIA CREATED TALIBAN - CIA CONTROLS MILITARY – CIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N49iSBChJNk

22. October 2011, 19:15:18

katsung47

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To maintain an enemy is the tactic that the Feds can keep on ask for more power and money from the people.

Raymond Davis was a Taliban recruiter: Report
February 22, 2011 16:49 IST

American official Raymond Davis, arrested for double murder, had "close links" with Taliban and was "instrumental" in recruiting youths for it, the media in Pakistan claimed on Tuesday, close on the heels of reports in the United States that he was a Central Intelligence Agency agent tracking movements of terror groups like the Lashkar-e-Tayiba.

The "close ties" of 37-year-old Davis, arrested in Lahore on January 27 for killing two men he claimed were trying to rob him, with the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan came out during investigations, The Express Tribune reported quoting an unnamed senior official of the Punjab police.

"Davis was instrumental in recruiting young people from Punjab for the Taliban to fuel the bloody insurgency in Pakistan," the official said.
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/raymond-davis-was-a-taliban-recruiter-says-report/20110222.htm

3. November 2011, 21:35:25

katsung47

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In initial article of this thread, I wrote, "

Originally posted by katsung47:


In Bin Laden's recent 20 years, the countries he went or tried to go, have something in common: They all have rich natural resources. Sudan and Iraq have oil. Afghan has rich mine. '


Afghanistan to develop $3 trillion in mining potential
DUBAI | Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:14pm
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69O3JP20101025



He didn't go to Yemen, Somali or Syria for his "revolution" because they are resource poor countries, not in US interest list. He didn't go to Saudi or Kuwait. Because they are US allies. He only went to Sudan, Afghan, or Iraq (intended to) because these three countries were not controlled by US at that time. As a living plant, he gave US the excuse to activate attack on these three countries. (Even Saddam realized that Bin Laden was a dangerous living plant and rejected him, Iraq at last was invaded with an unexisted WMD)



Here is a recent news to prove my analysis.

Friday, September 30, 2011 5:41 AM EDT

USGS Finds 'World-Class' Gold, Iron Deposits in Afghanistan
By Shailesh Shrivastava

The study found major gold deposits in southeastern Afghanistan's Badakhshan area with the capacity of as much as 958 kilograms. Apart from gold, the area also has silver, copper and uranium as minor or possible commodities.

In 2002, the USGS compiled a digital inventory of more than 1,079 mines and mineral occurrences in Afghanistan, of which 112 were gold-related.

Deposits of iron will be the second biggest mineral deposit to contribute to transforming the nation's economy. According to the study, the Hajigak area contains 1.7 billion tons of iron and iron ore.

A study in 1960s demonstrated the mineral potential of the region, and estimated, at that time, the Hajigak resource as having a concentration of approximately 62 percent iron, classifying it as "truly significant" on a global scale.

Among many minerals, Afghanistan also has vast deposits of celestite containing about 1 million tons. Deposits in the Kunduz area are believed to have 76.9 percent concentration of celestite.

http://www.ibtimes.com/art/services/print.php?articleid=222637


4. November 2011, 02:58:17

rjhowie

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The US involved in military shenannigans for commercial ends? Surely not?

4. November 2011, 04:23:43

xyzoneon

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US is making the constitution optional and telling banks to deny donation payments to wikileaks.

17. November 2011, 02:39:57

katsung47

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Wikileaks is also a tool of the US intelligence. Bin Laden and Assange both work for US. They worked as a provocateur to give US an excuse to do something illegal or in another word - forbidden by the law. Bin Laden deliberately went to country US wanted to invade. Suddan, Afghan, Iraq (intend to go, but rejected by Saddam). You saw the war. Assange deliberately leaked some not so important cable, the purpose is to give the government an excuse to control the Internet.

18. November 2011, 06:43:34

xyzoneon

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Originally posted by katsung47:

Wikileaks is also a tool of the US intelligence. Bin Laden and Assange both work for US. They worked as a provocateur to give US an excuse to do something illegal or in another word - forbidden by the law. Bin Laden deliberately went to country US wanted to invade. Suddan, Afghan, Iraq (intend to go, but rejected by Saddam). You saw the war. Assange deliberately leaked some not so important cable, the purpose is to give the government an excuse to control the Internet.



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