Osama Bin Laden is dead!

Osama Bin Laden is dead!

Osama Bin Laden is confirmed dead, killed by U.S. forces in Pakistan.

I believe we have his body too. President Obama will be going on national television to deliver a speech addressing the issue soon.

10 years after 9/11 when over 3,000 people died, and countless more lives lost in the "War on Terror."

No matter how you feel about this news, there is no denying the fact that Osama Bin Laden's actions (and the actions of those who follow him) have greatly impacted the way we live in this world.

Yup, great news.
It's 5:47 here in the UK now and I'm just starting on my 2nd Jack and Coke in celebration.

Good news, if perhaps only symbolic.
Has he had any real power or influence lately? How many wild-eyed madmen will rush to martyr themselves in order to avenge his death?
Let us all pray that his seventy-two virgins are all dismembered and eviscerated victims of his outrages.

Sons?
Grandchildren?

................................... Justice has been Served, American Style!

May he, & all his Offspring Rot in the FIRES of HELL Evermore!

Why Bin Laden's Death No Longer Really Matters
But where killing or capturing Bin Laden might once have been imagined to be a decisive turning point in a struggle between the U.S. and its challengers in the Muslim world, today, the death of America's erstwhile nemesis is little more than an historical footnote -- a settling of accounts for a spree of ugly crimes and the elimination of a symbol of global jihadist nihilism, perhaps, offering justice and closure for the victims of 9/11 and other atrocities. But it does little to alter the challenges facing the U.S. and its allies in Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Iran, Pakistan or any other major country in the Muslim world. That's because much to his chagrin, Bin Laden and his movement have achieved only marginal relevance to power struggles throughout the Muslim world.
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http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/05/01/why-bin-ladens-death-no-longer-really-matters/?xid=rss-topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+time%2Ftopstories+%28TIME%3A+Top+Stories%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo

As an emblem of vengeance, it matters...beyond that, nothing has changed.

Originally posted by jbrothernew37:

As an emblem of vengeance, it matters...

I'll drink to that....Information gotten via unconventional means in Guantanamo led to his eventual demise, long may he suffer.

Buried at sea the only virgins he'll see will be of the finned kind!

Originally posted by Smileyfaze:

Buried at sea the only virgins he'll see will be of the finned kind!

Perhaps, but I know that I've bought my last can of "Chicken of the Sea".

Originally posted by Smileyfaze:

I'll drink to that....Information gotten via unconventional means in Guantanamo led to his eventual demise, long may he suffer.

Buried at sea the only virgins he'll see will be of the finned kind!

Gosh, you really, actually and truly are the RJHowie of the USA!

Throwing his body away at sea? That what i find interesting. Probably end up in the belly of a edible seafood. Dont want to scare seafood consumers but strange things have been found in them. Imagine them coming from Osama? The threat is really not over.

Originally posted by OnetimePoster:

Sons?
Grandchildren?

Some relatives probably still resides in Saudi.

Yay! Hopefully no retialiation attacks.

so, what changed? is the "war" over? troops home? four more years?

what's the next excuse they'll use to keep it all going now.

Well good news all round and saves the reward money which can go to the needy back in Uncle Sam land....!

Originally posted by ensbb3:

so, what changed? is the "war" over? troops home? four more years?

what's the next excuse they'll use to keep it all going now.

War? What war? I took a nap. Did I miss something?

Originally posted by jbrothernew37:

Originally posted by ensbb3:

so, what changed? is the "war" over? troops home? four more years?

what's the next excuse they'll use to keep it all going now.

War? What war? I took a nap. Did I miss something?

me too. what's with the new new jaybro? is the trinity now compete, mighty one?

hush. Bin laden dead? What of the huge ransome for the bullet that sent the menace running to his sea virgins.

Since no one else has done it yet, allow me!

Good news took a while but yeah hope some problems are solved by this

Originally posted by ensbb3:

what's with the new new jaybro? is the trinity now compete, mighty one?

Jaygod has retired and is now living on OPM...that is, other people's money. The trinity is defunct, but the party is on!

Isn't OPM this ska punk band? I think Heaven Is a Halfpipe was in Tony Hawk 2 or 3 or some such.

Originally posted by garydenness:

Gosh, you really, actually and truly are the RJHowie of the USA!

Nope,,,,I'm far superior

Fish Out of Water and Heaven Is a Halfpipe. Takes me back about a decade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcCnmpw-80A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCSJzw6QM_Q

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This Memorial is dedicated to the One Million Three Hundred Thousand Americans that gave every last ounce of blood and devotion to their God, their Family and their Country . . . . This is a site of sacred reverence for those brave American Patriots that sacrificed all . . . . for the glory of God and all mankind.

Bin Laden was a symptom, not the disease. He's probably been pretty much irrelevant since 2002 anyway.

I figure this needs quoting in this topic, although my definition of self-defense is probably slightly more liberal and inclusive than PZ's.

I'm an extremist in this debate, I will freely confess. I hold an absolute view that no killing is ever justified, that individuals have the necessity to defend themselves against assailants, but that even that does not grant moral approval to snuffing out the life of another. Don't even try to pull out a scale and toss a copy of the Koran on one side and the life of a single human being on the other — the comparison is obscene. Do not try to tell me that some people are 'moderates' when they tolerate or even support and applaud war and death and murder for any cause, whether it is oil, or getting even, or defending the honor of wood pulp and ink.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/04/shades_of_gray.php

Originally posted by fanfaron:

Bin Laden was a symptom, not the disease. He's probably been pretty much irrelevant since 2002 anyway.

Qft.

Originally posted by fanfaron:

Bin Laden was a symptom, not the disease......

Your right....Hitler was also a symptom too........but you can visit his original site of his death/burial & grieve if you so pleased, bin laden on the other hand, now yer gunna need some serious underwater gear to shed yer tears for that phony martyr! Can they even swim???

Edit....Hitler was moved.......his ashes eventually scattered

Originally posted by Smileyfaze:

but you can visit his burial site & grieve if you so pleased

***cough***

Where?

I presume you can visit his former burial site & grieve if you so pleased.

you're assuming that's even hitlers remains.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

I presume you can visit his former burial site & grieve if you so pleased.

Sharp as a tack this guy!!!!

Originally posted by ensbb3:

you're assuming that's even hitlers remains.

And you're assuming that you are even you....too!

ZombieFrankenstein Hitler walks among us. The KGB only wants us to think they destroyed the body.

Frankenstein Hitler is a remarkably scary image.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Frankenstein Hitler is a remarkably scary image.

Not as scary as watching Obama trying to mount a slippery virgin eel!

Originally posted by Smileyfaze:

Sharp as a tack this guy!!!!

You mean, you can go visit the place he was killed and burned.

***cough*** as you can with OBL....

Originally posted by Smileyfaze:

Nope,,,,I'm far superior

That's exactly what RJ would say.....

Originally posted by Smileyfaze:

Originally posted by fanfaron:

Bin Laden was a symptom, not the disease......

Your right....Hitler was also a symptom too...

No, Hitler was the disease itself. Without him, I seriously doubt that National Socialism would have taken its course and taken over the way it did. Bin Laden was one wacked out terrorist among many. He wasn't the first and he won't be the last.

Originally posted by fanfaron:

No, Hitler was the disease itself.

That's oversimplification on a grand scale. Enough to be a tad misleading. But you have a point, sort of. Hitler wasn't the symptom of a disease, but a manifestation of it. Subtle difference. OBL too. The real difference between the two is that the former disease, the Nazi party, needed a figurehead of a certain quality at its central core in order to survive. Whereas Al Qaeda doesn't.

you give hitler too much credit. he was the voice and eventually lost the war for the cause. who's to say the next good speaker wouldn't of made better decisions.

Originally posted by garydenness:

The real difference between the two is that the former disease, the Nazi party, needed a figurehead of a certain quality at its central core in order to survive.

It's kind of hard to imagine a Nazi party without Hitler. He wasn't merely a figurehead, he was its life force. Let's say Hitler had been killed in 1928 or so. Counterfactuals are dangerous, but honestly I don't see Germany taking the same course. It's easy to imagine radical terrorists without an Osama, since they existed before he came on the scene.

Last one?????? I'll try to be good....

Originally posted by fanfaron:

It's kind of hard to imagine a Nazi party without Hitler. He wasn't merely a figurehead, he was its life force. Let's say Hitler had been killed in 1928 or so. Counterfactuals are dangerous, but honestly I don't see Germany taking the same course. It's easy to imagine radical terrorists without an Osama, since they existed before he came on the scene.

Ever play Command & Conquer: Red Alert? I loved that game.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Originally posted by fanfaron:

It's kind of hard to imagine a Nazi party without Hitler. He wasn't merely a figurehead, he was its life force. Let's say Hitler had been killed in 1928 or so. Counterfactuals are dangerous, but honestly I don't see Germany taking the same course. It's easy to imagine radical terrorists without an Osama, since they existed before he came on the scene.

Ever play Command & Conquer: Red Alert? I loved that game.

No, never heard of it.

red alert is old school, lol. but great game. generals my fav of the series.

I don't give a damn about American claims.
One thing I know for sure. Two things, I should say.
One - No action will prevent the terrorist Bin Laden from entering to History as the master chief of the most audacious attack in mankind history. His attack is already a mandatory study at any military academy in the world. Unlike any American action.
Two - Reality is far way from what appears to be. I wonder what happens if another terrorist message appears with Bin Laden reading the news about his own death and, as an erudite person, saying: "The news of my death were somehow exaggerated..."

Originally posted by Smileyfaze:

Your right....Hitler was also a symptom too........but you can visit his original site of his death/burial & grieve if you so pleased, bin laden on the other hand, now yer gunna need some serious underwater gear to shed yer tears for that phony martyr! Can they even swim???

Edit....Hitler was moved.......his ashes eventually scattered

I think it's interesting that both Hitler and Bin Laden died on May 1st.

Originally posted by jessheartsben:

I think it's interesting that both Hitler and Bin Laden died on May 1st.

So did a bunch of popes and actors. I'm sure it must mean something

Nice!!!!! VERY NICE INDEED!

Originally posted by Belfrager:

I don't give a damn about American claims.
One thing I know for sure. Two things, I should say.
One - No action will prevent the terrorist Bin Laden from entering to History as the master chief of the most audacious attack in mankind history. His attack is already a mandatory study at any military academy in the world. Unlike any American action.
Two - Reality is far way from what appears to be. I wonder what happens if another terrorist message appears with Bin Laden reading the news about his own death and, as an erudite person, saying: "The news of my death were somehow exaggerated..."

So you are implying that 1) American military actions are not studied in military academies worldwide because they choose to focus on terrorist activities instead (because planning and executing sneak attacks on civilian populations with proper funding and support is hard?) and 2) That Osama Bin Laden is watching this news on T.V from his hotel room in Bora Bora.

Originally posted by Macallan:

. I'm sure it must mean something

Two tyrants died on the same day! It doesn't mean anything but it's still kind of interesting.

I'm easily amused by things like this.

i was watching when operation was going durring that time childern were crying in that compound

Originally posted by jessheartsben:

So you are implying that 1) American military actions are not studied in military academies worldwide because they choose to focus on terrorist activities instead (because planning and executing sneak attacks on civilian populations with proper funding and support is hard?) and 2) That Osama Bin Laden is watching this news on T.V from his hotel room right now.

Please, don't let my words interrupt your happiness. They were not intended to it and your analysis is far, far away from their meaning..
Celebrate what you think you must celebrate.

do you thik al qaidqa ll finsh after osama's death