uh, cool Hope to see something amazing^^

Second !

Thanks

9.x ?! you really mean it? Than why "another 9.x"? Hmmm...

ha! i thought it was a weekly, hope next week will be a great weekly

Thanks for some sign of life. We appreciate it.

Yahooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Finally there's going to be some action.


But this is going to be a looooooooong week

i'm lovin' it ;-)

faTaL: 9.x can mean 9.03 no? However, both IE7 and Firefox 2 are coming very soon, so I wonder if opera has anything up its sleeve?

cool! look forward to it!

I wold like to see that they have something up its sleeve for us real users... bug fixes

Thanks.

We`re waiting… ;-)
Good luck in coding ;-)

thankz for being in contact

At last some news ^^
Thanks!

ha! i thought it was a weekly,

Good god, this should be obvious, but it is (more or less) a weekly WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING SUITABLE TO TEST. Surely you didn't think Opera meant there would be weeklies 52 weeks a year, did you?

Even the similarly needy Vista testers will know not to ask when the next build is coming once Vista is declared gold this month. Even they know that there's a pause in between.

Yess

It's only one week.

25 200 - 25 199 - 25 198 - 25 197...

Maybe they are having a feature freeze + bug bash *crosses fingers*

Anyone else feel that Opera is really slow and unresponsive on javascript/ajax intensive pages? (Yahoo mail beta, Gmail, Meebo.com, docs.google.com/writely.com, etc)

Originally posted by non-troppo:

9.x can mean 9.03 no? However, both IE7 and Firefox 2 are coming very soon, so I wonder if opera has anything up its sleeve?

I think it is 9.1 with some smaller or 9.5 with some bigger new features. I'd guess it will be 9.1

@Opera (borg): thank's for the information, tension is rising

I really hope they are on a feature freeze. Opera is extermely buggy. I've considered the alternatives, but I love opera and just want it w/o bugs and crashes!

I just can't wait. I can only play with it for a night then before I go away for three weeks teh day after. I will have way less opportunity to play around with it....

what new features? such bs as widgets? come on!

i want a opera release which finally solves problems and has fewer bugs as the last one. AND real in text search highlights again!

How about a better mail experience!

I am hoping for better RSS/Mail experience, its so 1995 right now

When u finally fix a bug where pictures collapse to one line? It worked till 8.54 and version 9 never worked. Since all other browsers are 5 jears behind opera i ask u now, will you ever fix it or should i use 8,54 for the next 5 jears till the other browsers catch up? Its a serious question.

Woww, am so Happy !!
Those guys are still alive !!
That's the more importan thing. Having feedback and news.

Mmm
For the new build...I can wait..

Make your bet
Who is really in the race...IE ?, Firefox ?, Opera ???.

Bye

Andrés Ruiz

Thanks, guys! I'm looking forward to it!

Yes, show me something less buggy and crash-free, please... I am so annoyed with O9.02, I switched to Mozilla (hopefully temporarily, but it all depends on you)

Thank you very much for letting us know! Can't wait, and will be looking forward to test driving the new weekly!

@rseiler
Cut everyone some slack, they are just excited. This is a good thing. I mean, if we didn't have people who were so enthusiastic about their Opera browser then we'd have a much smaller user-testing base. We're all excited about it. You post on every thread just like the rest of us, so I know you're excited when you see an update to the blog hoping it's a weekly as well. I'm mean, your post is like the 15th or something. Anyways, until next friday, everyone have a great weekend week days, haha.

Cheers!

me wants weekly

waiting so long, thanks!

God damn, I think that I'm addicted of yours weekly builds. =] Thanks for info and best wishes! :-)

Anyone else feel that Opera is really slow and unresponsive on javascript/ajax intensive pages?

no, though there definately slowness is on digg.com (bugged and probable cause found).

yahoo mail beta will be slow because browser.js is used to fix it.

When you apply styles to regular form controls in Opera they revert to a standard generic look and abandon the look the skin gives it. Web Forms 2 controls do not follow this. There needs to be a standard generic look across platforms and proper styling of these generic elements. A friend of mine and I are working on a web application, something that only can work in Opera to sort of show it off. We plan on using WF2 in some way or another.

Here is what I'm talking about here for the most part. On the Macintosh there's another problem that occurs. The top and bottom arrows aren't the same size, styles apply HORRIBLY to the controls, and the top arrow has aliasing problems.

I can bypass this using some CSS and javascript, recreating a stylable form control that triggers the actual, hidden WF2 controls for the present time. I'd just like to let it be known to you guys that the WF2 controls don't behave similarly to the legacy form controls along with other problems.

@rseiler, i was just so excited when the rss notification popped up, i go directly to the site not reading the title

and i know the devs wanted to release stable version (weeklie), so it's not a problem and like the rest of everyone here, i hope the next release will be great

no offense taken

It's sad that my favourite browser is receiving so negative feedback in our country. We're using Opera with our TV-sets (IPTV), everybody has opera (mini) in his/her mobile phone, but the major thing - the Internet itself - is still "inaccessible" with Opera.

Every major portal or e-bank is using ID-card identification already in Estonia. Next year they're banning the "usual insecure access" completely.

But... opera still doesn't support any smart card identification mechanisms that will be obligatory within couple of months. It's sad, sad, sad

I've discussed it with several guys of Opera premium support - no luck.

So... there's no use of your rendering improvements etc if the browser cannot support daily elemantary smart card identification (I even dare not to bring out the topic about encrypted e-mails...)

Shortly - the "most secure browser" has to be abandoned every time I have to do something really secure in Internet. IE7 and Firefox2 are gaining more and more popularity. There's no way to promote Opera among my friends, because the first question will always be: does it support ID-card? :'(

@slegg: that's definitely sad...
Use of ID-card in your bank is understandable but why would you use this card on some web portal?
BTW, I never heard about this ID-cards in Ukraine, nor in USA.

I have a different story about why I can't recommend Opera to everybody this time. Just because it doesn't work or works badly with Yahoo Mail and some newest Google and Microsoft online applications.
I know that's not Opera's fault in most cases, but who cares...
Opera needs web developer tools badly... Maybe than developers will start care about Opera support in their more and more complex web applications.

I really hope they are on a feature freeze. Opera is extremely buggy. I've considered the alternatives, but I love opera and just want it w/o bugs and crashes!

So says eminaz, and others have said the same. So do I, but I know that's not realistic. Developers in this blog demand more attention, and I'm happy to read that they will get it. I'm not one of them, of course. I'm happy when everyone gets what s/he wants.

Fortunately or unfortunately, Opera is not just a browser. Fortunately, because I think that's a smart strategy, considering the dominance of msie. Unfortunately, perhaps, because fx can focus on browsing and leave other features to complimentary products. Opera has the lead on portability to other browser/mesaging media -- for now. I'm betting that won't last.

Here's what I suspect joe/jane user wants. S/he wants a browser that works as well as msie and fx and, presumably, safari (not to exlude others) right out of the box. S/he wants a mailer that works as well as msoe and thunderbird (not to exlude others) right out of the box. S/he wants a feed reader that works better than google reader but that supports the various portal applications as well as msie and fx and, presumably, safari (not to exclude others) right out of the box -- which is a browser feature.

In the browser category, though I like the opera feed reader, I don't really depend on it, for lack of features. In the mailer category, I'm not inclined to migrate to opera, even from sylpheed-claws (since I have a long history with pegasus in windows and understand what a good mailer is) -- but that's an unfair comparison since msoe is the benchmark here and thunderbird is the competition. Still, the comparison seems unfavourable, if only because opera stubbornly refuses to accommodate the hierarchical mindset of a folder user out of the box. Fx defaults to a bookmark feature for basic feeds and pretty well depends upon extensions for elaborating this feature in ways that newshounds demand.

I think that if opera wants to appeal to joe/jane user, it has to worry more than it does about how the product works without tweaking of any kind. And this doesn't simply apply to the ui. I like to tweak, so I'm not exactly a typical joe/jane. But, to cite one glorious example, I mention bookmarks. If you have hundreds (perhaps thousands) of bookmarks, as I do, you cannot live with fx bookmarks. And that won't change with fx 2. But you might well prefer the fx scrapbook extension to opera notes (with it's line editor metaphor), as I do. Opera needs to rethink notes.

In short, I hope that opera strategists will have an eye to their weaknesses in relation to basic functions. msie 7 will make a splash, but further development will be negligible (if past history is any guide). The challenge is therefore not to preempt msie 7. Microsoft will have its moment and can command universal adherence for reasons we all understand. The issue is to rival fx. In order to do this, opera has to be a better _browser_ out of the box and more stable, which it will be only if it does what fx does, but better. That means: without important bugs. It must also support the hijinks of google, yahoo and any other important portal applications as they stumble along, wreaking havoc on standards. I don't pretend this is easy, but I do think it's a strategic issue worth more consideration that it seems to get.

Подождем...

I like to see better Transfers window with more information and some better sytling

Remaining ....MB
Icon 32x32 on right side on the bottom of the Transfers Window

http://groups.google.com/group/opera.general/msg/79635d8b6537075d?dmode=source&hl=en
9.03

thnx for the info..

AleksOD: you crazy person.... see you right back here when the bugs get you!!

and watch out for net congestion on the 18th... and maybe a few unhappy peeps a week or so later...

I'm loving Opera!!

Maybe he meant 9.OX ? :/

hmmmm

FataL, we have portals through witch we can communicate with our government and institutions. X-road is central information portal where you can see all data different institutions like health insurance board, IRS etc. have about you. E-scool is like online diary where scool can communicate with pupils parents, they can see their grades, home work, talk to teachers in forums etc. More info about this ID-card can be found at http://www.id.ee/pages.php/0303

thinking about it...


- That friday could be when all the "Oh no! IE7 is awful!" people come to our side....

How ABOUT fixing the PROBLEMS FIRST?????

1. NTLM SUCKS...... Fix it.
2. Column width Adjustments bug....

There's something i have to ask for - could you do something with Opera catching the keyboard volume keys? This might sound not important, but it can be really annoying to the user ;( Thanks in advance

Thanks for explanation, droz. Seems that support of ID-card is important...