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By olli. Thursday, 14. December 2006, 16:00:30

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In the last build there snuck in a pretty bad regression, so we ended up having to revert one of the layout fixes from yesterday.
Our favorite customer Santa has a deadline coming up so we are approaching release of Opera 9.10.


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one more (mid)weeklyopera 9.10

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MossMan 14. December 2006, 15:06

9.1 next week then... cool! :D

neoscorp 14. December 2006, 15:09

Verry Good...
Thanks Opera !

DandS 14. December 2006, 15:30

Thanks!

korosuke0123 14. December 2006, 15:35

Good

Ibsen 14. December 2006, 15:36

9.10... Yay! Santa's coming!

superjoppe 14. December 2006, 15:49

yay new build \o/

illiad 14. December 2006, 15:50

"Where's opera? (from where's wally?)" :smile: and hey! I'm in at 8!! :smile:

'wally' is 'only for entertainment' where 'about opera' is 'only for information' ...

Ok if you are just 'amusing yourself' but otherwise please state a *web page* that gives strange results...

You *do* want an Xmas pressie, dont you??????
:jester: :hat: :drunk:

chrislu 14. December 2006, 15:52

i am just stating this again, so it won't get forgotten:

issues stay:

1. i have an urgent issue which is present since several versions.

i have an imapt account at my university. now i have to accept the certificate everytime i check for mails, the install button is always grayed out. i tried reinstalling opera from scratch and to install the certificates directly. they appear under the security settings and i uncheckt to warn me everytime i use the certificate.

why is that?

the warning reads:
"- The certificate for "mailgate.uni-weimar.de" is signed by the unknown Certificate Authority "BU Weimar CA". It is not possible to verify that this is a valid certificate"

problem is the certificate is allready installed. i installed them directly from the following links (at the bottom). up until i think 9.01 i could use these certificates without problems.

http://www.uni-weimar.de/cms/Electronic_Mail.1734.0.html

2. another thing like the image problem:

navigate to a new page. while it loads press the back button. then navigate forward with the forward button again to the half loaded page. the loading will not continue and the page stays half loaded.


Originally posted by junyor:


@chrislu: It's a limitation of our SSL/TLS implementation. It may be fixed in the future, but we give no guarantees.

toman 14. December 2006, 16:02

@g4qb: Like I said the last time you mentioned the search bug, we know about the problem and why it happens.

Ahui886 14. December 2006, 16:10

hoho,great,well done

Marcu5z 14. December 2006, 16:11

Thank You very much...!!! :D

TriMN 14. December 2006, 16:16

Hi!

Thanks for a new build.

Well, I got one little Issue. Opera is using a lot of time to start on Mac OS 10.4.8... The Windows build pops up immediately but on my mac, it takes about 5-10 .. sometimes 20 seconds.

I've tried to empty cache and history.. even removed all Opera data from my mac and startup with plain standard Opera. Still slow.

Safari just pops up when I hit it. I'm in a hurry each morning and Opera is a kind of "eating my time".

yeye, Thanks anyway. Keep up the good work!



Edit: one more thing, it is taking a lot of CPU if a webpage got one little fancy object that're moving.

HeeZy 14. December 2006, 16:39

a bug....favicons don't show up on tabs. they load, but disappear when the page is fully loaded. opening a panel loads the favicon though.

alf245 14. December 2006, 16:42

@developers:
Just wanted to remind you that the Linux build suffers from another pretty bad regression since build #339 (#333 is fine): Scrolling (Smooth scrolling turned off) with keyboard sucks when several tabs (even blank ones) are open and several buttons have been added to the address bar.

illiad 14. December 2006, 16:54

chrislu: If you dont want it to be forgotten, put it in the community!!! :up:

Vladimyr 14. December 2006, 17:29

Please! Make correct download progress for big (above 4 GB) files! I like to use Opera with these :smile:

asif2bd 14. December 2006, 17:54

Problem with java still alive.

I had not write earlier, so its my first.

I am facing great difficulties with java.

kennycrudup 14. December 2006, 17:57

Originally posted by Olli:

In the last build there snuck in a pretty bad regression, so we ended up having to revert one of the layout fixes from yesterday.


So, I'm assuming y'all just backed it out, instead of trying something new in its place?

http://kenny.nepsa.com/private/opera-screenshots/grab_14-12-2006_095455.png

Vladimyr 14. December 2006, 17:58

What's the problem, asif2bd? I have none. J 1.5_09

olli 14. December 2006, 18:00

kennycrudup: Yes we just reverted it

CRAFT 14. December 2006, 18:01

Dear developers!
Big thanks to you for this amazing soft!!
In the ninth version don't suit me only 2 things. Please, solve these two problems:
1) Make an option in preferenses for switching-off of constant empty page, after the previous versions it is the reason of the big discomfort.
Absence of a dagger "To close" on this page throws into me confusion.
2) At some forums which are based a cursor phpBB (the official site - http://www.phpbb.com) at restart Opera automatically doesn't enter on a forum as was at 8.54 but only through a staff. Fix it!
PS: Sorry for my bad eng.... =(

kyleabaker 14. December 2006, 18:04

only a revert..oh well. Can't wait for 9.10..hohoho.

rxbbx 14. December 2006, 18:05

Thnx Olli, merry christmas everyone and good 2008 :smile:

kennycrudup 14. December 2006, 18:07

OK, Olli- but now that someone else sees it and I guess there's an idea of what's going on, I'll just patiently wait. (I guess this issue is tricky to solve?!)

asif2bd 14. December 2006, 18:10

I have also java run time environment installed on my page.

Example of my problem :

I am writing or editing on a blog site or site creator many time opera just cant load the interface(java tool) while i tried with Mozilla or their new Gran Paradiso could do most of the time.

Whats wrong?

olli 14. December 2006, 18:12

kennycrudup: Risky, could cause several more regressions so we put it of for now, but will fix later no worries :-)

ar1pe 14. December 2006, 18:14

:D

Great news.

toyotabedzrock 14. December 2006, 18:30

Is there a way to prevent the Opera icon from appearing on the desktop of a Mac when its run. I almost had my friend switch over but he dislikes that the icon wont go away till a restart.

umrain 14. December 2006, 18:34

CRAFT, I think you are looking for: Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Tabs > "Allow window with no tabs".

littlediamond82 14. December 2006, 18:46

It runs most of the time fine, but it takes a lot to load as reported by a previous user.

Why not changing the default theme for MAC OS X? Font Height and Tabs does not seem exactly match the look of the whole system.
I'm not a developer but aesthetically Safari or Camino are better.
It's a pity cuz I like opera features

klingoncowboy4 14. December 2006, 18:51

Two points

1. What regression?
2. 9.10 is going to be released soon? Yipy! I ca nfinally do more than just a weekly upgade on the other machines. :yes:

Darken 14. December 2006, 19:07

+1, What regression? :cheers:

OsoSentado 14. December 2006, 19:24

Why the dhtml menus doesn't display right in Opera?
Check the next site: http://www.petslandmexico.com/distribuidora/index.html
This site displays right in IE and Firefox.
In Opera as soon as I open the page it's show all the menues and it seems that the page is not working properly.
Why?

csant 14. December 2006, 19:51

Originally posted by alf245:

Scrolling (Smooth scrolling turned off) with keyboard sucks when several tabs (even blank ones) are open and several buttons have been added to the address bar.



Could you please be a bit more precise? I currently have (*checks*) 357 tabs open, smooth scrolling off, use only the keyboard - and scrolling works just fine :smile:

CRAFT 14. December 2006, 19:53

Dear umrain, big thanks! First trouble fixed =)
Opera - 4ever

Investor 14. December 2006, 19:58

Regression...

http://www.adobe.com/ :wink:

Rijk 14. December 2006, 20:14

@Heezy: I don't see that - does this happen for any random site, or somewhere specifically? There are some sites that provide two URLs for favicons, one of them broken...

Rijk 14. December 2006, 20:32

@OsoSentado: they use an older version of AllWebMenus that doesn't support Opera 8 or higher. I don't know if we can fix this at our end, but you could file a bug report at https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/ , mentioning they use 'AllWebMenus PRO ver 3.1-#524'.

If the site upgrades to version 4 of this DHTML menu, everything should work fine in Opera.

alf245 14. December 2006, 20:33

@csant:

Thanks for answering.
Here is one way to produce choppy scrolling:

1. Run Opera with 'opera -pd newdir'.
2. Left-click on the 'I agree' button.
3. Close Opera's startup tab.
4. Maximize the Opera window.
5. To avoid side effects, disable Plug-ins, JavaScript, Java.
6. Create a tab containing
http://www.heise.de
7. Create 20 buttons (the more the better) on the address bar for
'http://www.heise.de' by dragging the page icon from the URL field and dropping it beside the other buttons.
8. Open 20 blank tabs (the more the better).
9. Left-click on the tab containing 'http://www.heise.de'.
10. Press the cursor down key to scroll the page down. Scrolling should be extremely choppy now.

Please let me know wether you can reproduce this.

Rijk 14. December 2006, 20:37

@asif2bd:

You are still not being very clear. Are you talking about Java or JavaScript? Do you have specific websites where things don't work as expected? If so please, give the URL. Note that some websites do net yet take full use of the capabilities in Opera 8 and 9, unfortunately.

d.i.z. 14. December 2006, 20:46

Regression...

http://www.adobe.com/


Whyy? Did it have anything to do with regression?

medium 14. December 2006, 20:56

Thanks, Desktop Team, for a super quick fix bug (243055) with email links in M2. That's only 5 days! Like a really Santa Claus!!!!!
:hat: :cheers: :drunk:
Now Opera 9 for me will be 100% useful. :smile:

olli 14. December 2006, 21:01

d.i.z.: Yes it did.

CRAFT 14. December 2006, 21:52

Develobers, fix this please:
2) At home network forums which are based a phpBB engine (the official site - http://www.phpbb.com) at restart Opera automatically doesn't enter on a forum,as was at 8.54, only through a staff. Fix it!
PS: Sorry for my bad eng.... =(

csant 14. December 2006, 22:04

alf245, yes indeed - it seems to have become worse. Have you reported a bug?

Rijk 14. December 2006, 22:18

CRAFT: please file bug reports for issues you find. bad english is not a big problem, but try to be as clear and specific as possible.

alf245 14. December 2006, 23:05

@csant:
Thank you very much for your confirmation. Yes, I sent a bug report about this issue several times. The last ones have been #238121 and #214449, if I remember correctly. Does it make sense to send another one? I also reported it there:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2006/11/17/one-more-step-towards-9-10?startidx=60

Here is a confirmation from Gofo. He also makes interesting observations there, that I can confirm (except for the mouse wheel thing) and that might be related to the scrolling issue:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2006/11/17/one-more-step-towards-9-10?startidx=102

kkuhlemann 14. December 2006, 23:08

The flashplayer 9 support on Linux is gone with this build. Flash films which are shown in firefox, seamonkey or konqueror remain blank in Opera,
build 521 shows only about one of ten flash-films.
I know that this is still beta, but it works stable in firefox etc.

Flashplayer 7 -installed only in Opera leaving 9 for the other browsers- shows anything correctly.

This is Linux only (.6 shared rpm). Flashplayer 9 works fine in the Windows build.

kennycrudup 14. December 2006, 23:27

Actually, I've noticed the same with Flash 9 on Linux as well (518 and 521 are broken, 507 is OK). Considering that my one thing isn't addressed by any of the three, is there any huge fix in 518 that's not in 507 should I want to go back ('cause I'm assuming there'll be no Weekly tomorrow ...)?

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