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New weekly build

By olli. Friday, 2. February 2007, 17:11:27

Hi
We added an experimental developer tool to Opera. Go to tools/advanced/Developer Console to try it out. (will not work with js and popups disabled)
Sorry no static linux build today :-(


Changelog:
  • Unneeded scrollbar now gone on adobe.com
  • Some fraud protection improvements
  • Made proxy authentication work better
  • Added Developer console
  • Usage report only asks 1 in 1000
  • Fixes to entering hostname: port in addressbar
  • Javascript scroll events now fired on mouseweel
  • Server Expiry header is now respected even if the time exceeds user preference

    UNIX
  • Fixed master password expiry time on unix
  • Added Shared X memory. Should now be quite a bit faster
    Note: On FreeBSD shared memory doesn't work by FreeBSD design. You need to run this as as root:
    # sysctl kern.ipc.shm_allow_removed=1
    (We'll be adding a workaround for this in later builds.)


Windows MSI
Windows Classic
Macintosh
Unix

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Comments

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Thanks for "Javascript scroll events now fired on mouseweel" and "developer console" :wink:

By neoscorp, # 2. February 2007, 17:38:43

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Thanks.

Originally posted by olli:

Usage report only asks 1 in 1000
:confused:

By Tamil, # 2. February 2007, 17:42:11

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Great work!!!

but.. where is version for FreeBSD 5.x?

By tarc, # 2. February 2007, 17:43:31

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correct the build #

By krusha, # 2. February 2007, 17:44:01

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Nice :smile:

By slegg, # 2. February 2007, 17:46:13

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:smile:

By c1201298, # 2. February 2007, 17:47:04

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Ohhhhh >> "Added Developer console"
- Fantastic!! :cheers: :up:

By Darken, # 2. February 2007, 17:48:01

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Finally! Thanks a lot...
You forgot to change build numbers in the header of journal.

By FataL, # 2. February 2007, 17:48:15

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Scrolling with the keyboard on the Linux build is still broken:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2006/12/14/new-build-available-4?startidx=38

By alf245, # 2. February 2007, 17:48:20

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@Tamil: probably now, only 1 user from a 1000 will be asked if he/she wishes to enable the usage report.

By MisterE, # 2. February 2007, 17:49:06

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Thanks. new build

By yokey, # 2. February 2007, 17:49:49

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I would like to be able to submit report to Opera manually or turn automatic submission on.
Edit: Ok, seems that I can reenable reporting through EnableUsageStatistics setting in opera:config.

@kennycrudup: seems you unlucky again with this buid :frown:
What a mess...

By FataL, # 2. February 2007, 17:54:00

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What about automatically (maybe optional) switching to English in adress-bar?

By andrew3105, # 2. February 2007, 17:57:35

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:frown: no...
Developer tools needs to be implemented natively in Opera not with javascript.
I already have bookmarklets for that (maybe not as cool but still).

How can I make the console stay on top all the time ?
How can I use it when I don't have any network connection ?
How about a javascript debugger?
Etc...

A javascript solution is far inferior to a native one.

I guess they're far better that nothing but I was expecting more.
The problem is of course the lack of a scripting solution like the extensions in FF, but I won't talk about that here.

By MisterE, # 2. February 2007, 18:00:53

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hm, there’s no “developer console” in my “tools/advanced” menu :frown:

By y0r1c, # 2. February 2007, 18:02:24

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@y0r1c: use Opera's standard menu, not your own.

By MisterE, # 2. February 2007, 18:04:38

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Thanks, was waiting for a new build ^^

By Doliprane, # 2. February 2007, 18:08:05

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MisterE, tnx for advise

By y0r1c, # 2. February 2007, 18:08:08

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Ooooh, yeah! Developer tools! Let's see how well it compares to FireBug. :smile:

By Fyrd, # 2. February 2007, 18:09:10

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MiterE, +1
Yes, currently it`s nice tool, xmlHTTPRequest logger, and «always on top»— excellent idea and implementation… But, we need something local, like firebugs for FF. something, works in sidebar or|and widget.

Anyway, big thanks for your job… ;-)

By Kildor, # 2. February 2007, 18:12:21

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:idea: Tips for Developer Console usage:
  • you can drag Developer Console tab to taskbar and get separate Developer Console window (at least it works in Windows version). Than tile two windows side by side.
  • you can tile windows inside Opera window using restore buttons for Developer Console tab and than for tab you investigate.
  • the good about current Console is that you can have 2 or more consoles opened side by side (for example to compare someting)

I'am all for native implementation of Developer Console too. But let developers give us "quick approach" first.

By FataL, # 2. February 2007, 18:15:08

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bug in http log
onreadystatechange15 millisec
readyStae: 1
15 millisec
send15 millisec
data: null
187 millisec
onreadystatechange187 millisec
readyStae: 4

By Kildor, # 2. February 2007, 18:23:34

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@andresruiz,

link should be http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o920w_8713m.exe

M.

By jonspencerbx, # 2. February 2007, 18:24:08

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New Developer Console is smaller brother of Firebug. It's great have similar tool also in Opera. But i think, that Firebug is good inspiration for it ;-)

By t.prochazka, # 2. February 2007, 18:24:28

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What I really don't like about implementation of Show CSS Rules is splitting one rule to four for example:
padding: 0;
becomes
padding-top: 0;
padding-right: 0;
padding-bottom: 0;
padding-left: 0;
:frown:

By FataL, # 2. February 2007, 18:24:38

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Thx a lot...!!!
Developer console, jeee!
Good work... :smile:

By Marcu5z, # 2. February 2007, 18:30:16

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I like the "on-the-fly" editing for existing CSS rules, which works well, but...it doesn't seem to acknowledge any new rules that I add. Is there a way to make it do that?

@FataL

I think Opera (and some other browsers, I think) seem to do that internally before processing the stylesheet, which is probably why it shows up like that...but yes, it'd be nice if it didn't have to do that.

By Fyrd, # 2. February 2007, 18:31:39

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I really like Developer Console's style. Thumbs up for designers! :up:
:idea: But I think default appearance of buttons should not be restyled. Lets not break user experiense. Give other interface designers a lesson. :wink:
With this approach different systems (Mac OS, Linux, Windows) will show native looking controls to users.

By FataL, # 2. February 2007, 18:32:37

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A Developer Console, great :-) Can I bind this to a keystroke somehow? There is no "Show Developer console".

By hzr, # 2. February 2007, 18:35:11

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About Opera says that this is build 557, not build 547, which is what's in the link to the Unix build above.

By Gort, # 2. February 2007, 18:35:48

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Bug: When I press "Clear log" in the XHR logger, the button switches to "Show settings".

By hzr, # 2. February 2007, 18:44:57

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Fixed the download problem

Downloading...

I don't know what was happening, maybe something with the server.

Tks anyway @jonspencerbx

By andresruiz, # 2. February 2007, 18:50:09

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Current browser.js status: disabled with build 8713

edit:
http://xml.opera.com/userjs/index.pl Not Found

By alexs, # 2. February 2007, 19:06:03

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Great changelog this time guys! Been installed for about 5 minutes so far, so no testing responses yet, just some praises for more work on the developer console!

By kyleabaker, # 2. February 2007, 19:07:01

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@hzr: Taken from the new menu file:

Go to page, "javascript:(function(){var ele=document.documentElement.appendChild(document.createElement('script'));ele.src='http://devfiles.myopera.com/tools/developer/8679/devConsole.js';ele.parentNode.removeChild(ele);opera.tools.console.open();})();", , , " "

By MisterE, # 2. February 2007, 19:10:08

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Can I use the Developer Console to try and track down my rendering issues?

If so, based on what y'all see in my screenshots, what's not being realized, and what should I look for?

(I've gone and cleared my cache and started my windows over from scratch. It hasn't shown up since I've done that for today's build, but I suspect it's just a matter of time.)

By kennycrudup, # 2. February 2007, 19:11:28

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Oh, and I can see somewhat the effect of your using XShm (I think :smile:)

By kennycrudup, # 2. February 2007, 19:12:43

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With this introduction of a developer console we finally have a new feature that I will use regularly :yes:

By klingoncowboy4, # 2. February 2007, 19:12:50

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^_^ Try it !

By shaka47, # 2. February 2007, 19:19:42

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MSI-Version still with broken search.ini: Two engines numbered "31"
This results in some non-working Searches, e.g. Japanese -> English

I cannot imagine what prevents you from changing the second number "31" to "32" in this file for such a long time now!?

Btw, the developer console is a great idea!

By SteveKong, # 2. February 2007, 19:22:31

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Is anyone else seeing high GDI resource usage. This build and the previous weekly build have had very high. Right now I'm showing 1994 GDI objects.

I have 70 tabs open, with Enable Plugins and Enable Java off.

In previous builds 70 tabs wasn't a problem.

Should I open a defect?

By cgrinds, # 2. February 2007, 19:28:08

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@MisterE,

thanks, as I didn't have a [Browser Tools Menu] section I didn't find it, but found it in the standard menu file.

Anyway, now I can bind it to some key. Thanks again.

By hzr, # 2. February 2007, 19:28:58

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@SteveKong: Bug number?

By Junyor, # 2. February 2007, 19:39:37

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Is there any way how to get developer console to sidebar?

By mata_h, # 2. February 2007, 19:46:59

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@ alf345: Scrolling with the keyboard works for me with the Linux .6 rpm-build.

This is much faster on Linux than any previous builds, maybe as fast as firefox.

By kkuhlemann, # 2. February 2007, 19:52:34

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:frown:
ранее (8692) на вкладке "Окна" при выборе курсором неактивного окна и нажатии в менюшке "закрыть" закрывалось это неактивное окно...
теперь (8701,8713) после нажатия "закрыть" закрывается не то окно на котором курсор, а активное...
на "обновить" сходная реакция...

Вопрос : как вернуть всё обратно ?
чтобы снова закрывалось окно под курсором

------------------------------------------

Wrong work "Close" and "Reload" in panel "Windows"
bug-250181

By RX-3200, # 2. February 2007, 19:58:26

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@kkuhlemann: Have you checked the instructions for reproducing choppy scrolling that I posted in the link?

By alf245, # 2. February 2007, 20:13:15

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F5 key doesn't work?

By rogerpe, # 2. February 2007, 20:17:40

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This linux build does feel much quicker. Starts up faster and pageloads, display, scrolling etc all seem much snappier too. Cheers!!!

Thumbs up for dev console. Very useful tool and nice to drag outside Opera's main window for examining page elements.

A few issues:

1. I am seeing a difference in behaviour between Win and Linux version, when accessing my Router pages. I have a Draytek 2800G router and the "Data Flow Monitor" tool, when activated, brings up a table of users and their TX/RX infos. But in Linux, I get zip - the table won't appear. This code is jone by some JS, but why would it work in Opera-Win and not in Linux?

2. I have Ctrl+Tab images switched on. Opera seems to take ages to respond to Ctrl+Tab unless the image for the destination page is already cached. Is there some way to speed this up, say, by generating the thumbnails on an idlethread when a page is not in use?

3. Downloading lots of things simultaneously from a page causes "dead downloads" - the download does not end nor progress.

4. (Smooth scrolling on, in Linux) Holding down cursor keys to scroll Up/Down causes a keyboard buffer buildup so (eg) when you let go Up, it keeps scrolling Up for quite a while. This is really annoying!!

One more tip/wish really is for Opera to start thinking about how to integrate its mail/contacts/bookmarks into technologies like Spotlight (Mac) and Beagle (Linux), or even the new Vista search.

Above all thanks once again and keep up the fine work!

S. :smile:

By sebt, # 2. February 2007, 20:18:27

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