Thanks for "Javascript scroll events now fired on mouseweel" and "developer console"

Thanks.

Originally posted by olli:

Usage report only asks 1 in 1000

Great work!!!

but.. where is version for FreeBSD 5.x?

correct the build #

Nice

Ohhhhh >> "Added Developer console"
- Fantastic!!

Finally! Thanks a lot...
You forgot to change build numbers in the header of journal.

Scrolling with the keyboard on the Linux build is still broken:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2006/12/14/new-build-available-4?startidx=38

@Tamil: probably now, only 1 user from a 1000 will be asked if he/she wishes to enable the usage report.

Thanks. new build

I would like to be able to submit report to Opera manually or turn automatic submission on.
Edit: Ok, seems that I can reenable reporting through EnableUsageStatistics setting in opera:config.

@kennycrudup: seems you unlucky again with this buid
What a mess...

What about automatically (maybe optional) switching to English in adress-bar?

no...
Developer tools needs to be implemented natively in Opera not with javascript.
I already have bookmarklets for that (maybe not as cool but still).

How can I make the console stay on top all the time ?
How can I use it when I don't have any network connection ?
How about a javascript debugger?
Etc...

A javascript solution is far inferior to a native one.

I guess they're far better that nothing but I was expecting more.
The problem is of course the lack of a scripting solution like the extensions in FF, but I won't talk about that here.

hm, there’s no “developer console” in my “tools/advanced” menu

@y0r1c: use Opera's standard menu, not your own.

Thanks, was waiting for a new build ^^

MisterE, tnx for advise

Ooooh, yeah! Developer tools! Let's see how well it compares to FireBug.

MiterE, +1
Yes, currently it`s nice tool, xmlHTTPRequest logger, and «always on top»— excellent idea and implementation… But, we need something local, like firebugs for FF. something, works in sidebar or|and widget.

Anyway, big thanks for your job… ;-)

Tips for Developer Console usage:

• you can drag Developer Console tab to taskbar and get separate Developer Console window (at least it works in Windows version). Than tile two windows side by side.
  
• you can tile windows inside Opera window using restore buttons for Developer Console tab and than for tab you investigate.
  
• the good about current Console is that you can have 2 or more consoles opened side by side (for example to compare someting)

I'am all for native implementation of Developer Console too. But let developers give us "quick approach" first.

bug in http log
onreadystatechange15 millisec
readyStae: 1
15 millisec
send15 millisec
data: null
187 millisec
onreadystatechange187 millisec
readyStae: 4

@andresruiz,

link should be http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o920w_8713m.exe

M.

New Developer Console is smaller brother of Firebug. It's great have similar tool also in Opera. But i think, that Firebug is good inspiration for it ;-)

What I really don't like about implementation of Show CSS Rules is splitting one rule to four for example:

padding: 0;

becomes

padding-top: 0;
padding-right: 0;
padding-bottom: 0;
padding-left: 0;

Thx a lot...!!!
Developer console, jeee!
Good work...

I like the "on-the-fly" editing for existing CSS rules, which works well, but...it doesn't seem to acknowledge any new rules that I add. Is there a way to make it do that?

@FataL

I think Opera (and some other browsers, I think) seem to do that internally before processing the stylesheet, which is probably why it shows up like that...but yes, it'd be nice if it didn't have to do that.

I really like Developer Console's style. Thumbs up for designers!
But I think default appearance of buttons should not be restyled. Lets not break user experiense. Give other interface designers a lesson.
With this approach different systems (Mac OS, Linux, Windows) will show native looking controls to users.

A Developer Console, great :-) Can I bind this to a keystroke somehow? There is no "Show Developer console".

About Opera says that this is build 557, not build 547, which is what's in the link to the Unix build above.

Bug: When I press "Clear log" in the XHR logger, the button switches to "Show settings".

Fixed the download problem

Downloading...

I don't know what was happening, maybe something with the server.

Tks anyway @jonspencerbx

Current browser.js status: disabled with build 8713

edit:
http://xml.opera.com/userjs/index.pl Not Found

Great changelog this time guys! Been installed for about 5 minutes so far, so no testing responses yet, just some praises for more work on the developer console!

@hzr: Taken from the new menu file:

Go to page, "javascript:(function(){var ele=document.documentElement.appendChild(document.createElement('script'));ele.src='http://devfiles.myopera.com/tools/developer/8679/devConsole.js';ele.parentNode.removeChild(ele);opera.tools.console.open();})();", , , " "

Can I use the Developer Console to try and track down my rendering issues?

If so, based on what y'all see in my screenshots, what's not being realized, and what should I look for?

(I've gone and cleared my cache and started my windows over from scratch. It hasn't shown up since I've done that for today's build, but I suspect it's just a matter of time.)

Oh, and I can see somewhat the effect of your using XShm (I think )

With this introduction of a developer console we finally have a new feature that I will use regularly

^_^ Try it !

MSI-Version still with broken search.ini: Two engines numbered "31"
This results in some non-working Searches, e.g. Japanese -> English

I cannot imagine what prevents you from changing the second number "31" to "32" in this file for such a long time now!?

Btw, the developer console is a great idea!

Is anyone else seeing high GDI resource usage. This build and the previous weekly build have had very high. Right now I'm showing 1994 GDI objects.

I have 70 tabs open, with Enable Plugins and Enable Java off.

In previous builds 70 tabs wasn't a problem.

Should I open a defect?

@MisterE,

thanks, as I didn't have a [Browser Tools Menu] section I didn't find it, but found it in the standard menu file.

Anyway, now I can bind it to some key. Thanks again.

@SteveKong: Bug number?

Is there any way how to get developer console to sidebar?

@ alf345: Scrolling with the keyboard works for me with the Linux .6 rpm-build.

This is much faster on Linux than any previous builds, maybe as fast as firefox.

ранее (8692) на вкладке "Окна" при выборе курсором неактивного окна и нажатии в менюшке "закрыть" закрывалось это неактивное окно...
теперь (8701,8713) после нажатия "закрыть" закрывается не то окно на котором курсор, а активное...
на "обновить" сходная реакция...

Вопрос : как вернуть всё обратно ?
чтобы снова закрывалось окно под курсором

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Wrong work "Close" and "Reload" in panel "Windows"
bug-250181

@kkuhlemann: Have you checked the instructions for reproducing choppy scrolling that I posted in the link?

F5 key doesn't work?

This linux build does feel much quicker. Starts up faster and pageloads, display, scrolling etc all seem much snappier too. Cheers!!!

Thumbs up for dev console. Very useful tool and nice to drag outside Opera's main window for examining page elements.

A few issues:

1. I am seeing a difference in behaviour between Win and Linux version, when accessing my Router pages. I have a Draytek 2800G router and the "Data Flow Monitor" tool, when activated, brings up a table of users and their TX/RX infos. But in Linux, I get zip - the table won't appear. This code is jone by some JS, but why would it work in Opera-Win and not in Linux?

2. I have Ctrl+Tab images switched on. Opera seems to take ages to respond to Ctrl+Tab unless the image for the destination page is already cached. Is there some way to speed this up, say, by generating the thumbnails on an idlethread when a page is not in use?

3. Downloading lots of things simultaneously from a page causes "dead downloads" - the download does not end nor progress.

4. (Smooth scrolling on, in Linux) Holding down cursor keys to scroll Up/Down causes a keyboard buffer buildup so (eg) when you let go Up, it keeps scrolling Up for quite a while. This is really annoying!!

One more tip/wish really is for Opera to start thinking about how to integrate its mail/contacts/bookmarks into technologies like Spotlight (Mac) and Beagle (Linux), or even the new Vista search.

Above all thanks once again and keep up the fine work!

S.