New weekly build
By olli. Friday, February 2, 2007 5:11:27 PM
We added an experimental developer tool to Opera. Go to tools/advanced/Developer Console to try it out. (will not work with js and popups disabled)
Sorry no static linux build today :-(
Changelog:
- Unneeded scrollbar now gone on adobe.com
- Some fraud protection improvements
- Made proxy authentication work better
- Added Developer console
- Usage report only asks 1 in 1000
- Fixes to entering hostname: port in addressbar
- Javascript scroll events now fired on mouseweel
- Server Expiry header is now respected even if the time exceeds user preference
UNIX - Fixed master password expiry time on unix
- Added Shared X memory. Should now be quite a bit faster
Note: On FreeBSD shared memory doesn't work by FreeBSD design. You need to run this as as root:
# sysctl kern.ipc.shm_allow_removed=1
(We'll be adding a workaround for this in later builds.)
Windows MSI
Windows Classic
Macintosh
Unix




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neoscorp # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:38:43 PM
Tamil # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:42:11 PM
Originally posted by olli:
Arsenytarc # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:43:31 PM
but.. where is version for FreeBSD 5.x?
G-Bojkokrusha # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:44:01 PM
slegg # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:46:13 PM
serdelllc1201298 # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:47:04 PM
Steve DarkenDarken # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:48:01 PM
- Fantastic!!
FataL # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:48:15 PM
You forgot to change build numbers in the header of journal.
alf245 # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:48:20 PM
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2006/12/14/new-build-available-4?startidx=38
MisterE # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:49:06 PM
YOKEYyokey # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:49:49 PM
Kenneth Crudupkennycrudup # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:53:40 PM
FataL # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:54:00 PM
Edit: Ok, seems that I can reenable reporting through EnableUsageStatistics setting in opera:config.
@kennycrudup: seems you unlucky again with this buid
What a mess...
Андрей Пановandrew3105 # Friday, February 2, 2007 5:57:35 PM
MisterE # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:00:53 PM
Developer tools needs to be implemented natively in Opera not with javascript.
I already have bookmarklets for that (maybe not as cool but still).
How can I make the console stay on top all the time ?
How can I use it when I don't have any network connection ?
How about a javascript debugger?
Etc...
A javascript solution is far inferior to a native one.
I guess they're far better that nothing but I was expecting more.
The problem is of course the lack of a scripting solution like the extensions in FF, but I won't talk about that here.
y0r1c # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:02:24 PM
MisterE # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:04:38 PM
Doliprane'Doliprane # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:08:05 PM
y0r1c # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:08:08 PM
Alexis DeveriaFyrd # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:09:10 PM
Kostia RomanovKildor # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:12:21 PM
Yes, currently it`s nice tool, xmlHTTPRequest logger, and «always on top»— excellent idea and implementation… But, we need something local, like firebugs for FF. something, works in sidebar or|and widget.
Anyway, big thanks for your job… ;-)
FataL # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:15:08 PM
I'am all for native implementation of Developer Console too. But let developers give us "quick approach" first.
Kostia RomanovKildor # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:23:34 PM
onreadystatechange15 millisec
readyStae: 1
15 millisec
send15 millisec
data: null
187 millisec
onreadystatechange187 millisec
readyStae: 4
Jonspencerbxjonspencerbx # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:24:08 PM
link should be http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o920w_8713m.exe
M.
Tomas Prochazkatprochazka # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:24:28 PM
FataL # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:24:38 PM
becomes
Marcu5z # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:30:16 PM
Developer console, jeee!
Good work...
Alexis DeveriaFyrd # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:31:39 PM
@FataL
I think Opera (and some other browsers, I think) seem to do that internally before processing the stylesheet, which is probably why it shows up like that...but yes, it'd be nice if it didn't have to do that.
FataL # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:32:37 PM
With this approach different systems (Mac OS, Linux, Windows) will show native looking controls to users.
David Håsätherhzr # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:35:11 PM
GrahamGort # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:35:48 PM
David Håsätherhzr # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:44:57 PM
Andresandresruiz # Friday, February 2, 2007 6:50:09 PM
Downloading...
I don't know what was happening, maybe something with the server.
Tks anyway @jonspencerbx
Alexsalexs # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:06:03 PM
edit:
http://xml.opera.com/userjs/index.pl Not Found
Kyle Bakerkyleabaker # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:07:01 PM
MisterE # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:10:08 PM
Go to page, "javascript:(function(){var ele=document.documentElement.appendChild(document.createElement('script'));ele.src='http://devfiles.myopera.com/tools/developer/8679/devConsole.js';ele.parentNode.removeChild(ele);opera.tools.console.open();})();", , , " "Kenneth Crudupkennycrudup # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:11:28 PM
If so, based on what y'all see in my screenshots, what's not being realized, and what should I look for?
(I've gone and cleared my cache and started my windows over from scratch. It hasn't shown up since I've done that for today's build, but I suspect it's just a matter of time.)
Kenneth Crudupkennycrudup # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:12:43 PM
Kc4 the Greatklingoncowboy4 # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:12:50 PM
shaka47 # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:19:42 PM
SteveKong # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:22:31 PM
This results in some non-working Searches, e.g. Japanese -> English
I cannot imagine what prevents you from changing the second number "31" to "32" in this file for such a long time now!?
Btw, the developer console is a great idea!
cgrinds # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:28:08 PM
I have 70 tabs open, with Enable Plugins and Enable Java off.
In previous builds 70 tabs wasn't a problem.
Should I open a defect?
David Håsätherhzr # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:28:58 PM
thanks, as I didn't have a [Browser Tools Menu] section I didn't find it, but found it in the standard menu file.
Anyway, now I can bind it to some key. Thanks again.
Tim AltmanJunyor # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:39:37 PM
Martin Hložekmata_h # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:46:59 PM
Klaus P. Kuhlemannkkuhlemann # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:52:34 PM
This is much faster on Linux than any previous builds, maybe as fast as firefox.
RX-3200 # Friday, February 2, 2007 7:58:26 PM
ранее (8692) на вкладке "Окна" при выборе курсором неактивного окна и нажатии в менюшке "закрыть" закрывалось это неактивное окно...
теперь (8701,8713) после нажатия "закрыть" закрывается не то окно на котором курсор, а активное...
на "обновить" сходная реакция...
Вопрос : как вернуть всё обратно ?
чтобы снова закрывалось окно под курсором
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Wrong work "Close" and "Reload" in panel "Windows"
bug-250181
alf245 # Friday, February 2, 2007 8:13:15 PM
rogerpe # Friday, February 2, 2007 8:17:40 PM
sebt # Friday, February 2, 2007 8:18:27 PM
Thumbs up for dev console. Very useful tool and nice to drag outside Opera's main window for examining page elements.
A few issues:
1. I am seeing a difference in behaviour between Win and Linux version, when accessing my Router pages. I have a Draytek 2800G router and the "Data Flow Monitor" tool, when activated, brings up a table of users and their TX/RX infos. But in Linux, I get zip - the table won't appear. This code is jone by some JS, but why would it work in Opera-Win and not in Linux?
2. I have Ctrl+Tab images switched on. Opera seems to take ages to respond to Ctrl+Tab unless the image for the destination page is already cached. Is there some way to speed this up, say, by generating the thumbnails on an idlethread when a page is not in use?
3. Downloading lots of things simultaneously from a page causes "dead downloads" - the download does not end nor progress.
4. (Smooth scrolling on, in Linux) Holding down cursor keys to scroll Up/Down causes a keyboard buffer buildup so (eg) when you let go Up, it keeps scrolling Up for quite a while. This is really annoying!!
One more tip/wish really is for Opera to start thinking about how to integrate its mail/contacts/bookmarks into technologies like Spotlight (Mac) and Beagle (Linux), or even the new Vista search.
Above all thanks once again and keep up the fine work!
S.