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Speed Dial closer to completion

By Julien Picalausajulienp. Friday, March 16, 2007 4:18:11 PM

There has been a lot of work done on Speed dial during the last couple of weeks. We are now getting very close to completion.

Look out for the potential regressions or new bugs. Enjoy!

  • Upgrading will now attempt to merge the default searches with your own. Look out for bugs! Make a backup!
  • Put startbar back into the configuration - disabled by default
  • Speed dial now doesn't load entries every time
  • Added "reload every" to speed dial items
  • Disabled plugins completely in speed dial
  • Improved keyboard navigation in speed dial - menu keys now bring up the correct context menu, delete removes current entry
  • Added opera:config option to configure speed dial . Has four modes: 0 = Folded, 1 = Shown, 2 = No editing allowed, 3 = Disabled
  • New help tooltip in speed dial
  • A bunch of other speed dial fixes
  • Fixed bug where Opera wouldn't exit after visiting Yahoo! games
  • Saving big images should now work better
  • Skandiabanken.no's message about successful certificate installation is now shown

    UNIX
  • Improved Shared memory on FreeBSD and Solaris
  • Added more plugin paths on Solaris


Download:
Windows MSI
Windows Classic
Macintosh
Unix

"Is that my blog on your Speed Dial?"Imagine title here

Comments

Ar1Pear1pe Friday, March 16, 2007 5:04:16 PM

Thanks! bigsmile

Ward Friday, March 16, 2007 5:05:50 PM

Thanks!

*installs*

Tamil Friday, March 16, 2007 5:07:54 PM

Nice changelog. yes

Thanks for bringing back start bar.

Alexis DeveriaFyrd Friday, March 16, 2007 5:09:10 PM

Buiiiiiiiiild!

*gets*

Changelog looks great! smile

neoscorp Friday, March 16, 2007 5:10:10 PM

Thanks for All !

FataL Friday, March 16, 2007 5:11:21 PM

Put startbar back into the configuration - disabled by default

Nice! up
How about doing the same for "Star in the toolbar"? wait

David Shamloo EkbladdAEk Friday, March 16, 2007 5:12:54 PM

Wohoo! I like what I see in the changelog. smile

LudvigKanel Friday, March 16, 2007 5:15:39 PM

Thanks! up

stenosissteno Friday, March 16, 2007 5:18:21 PM

Yeah, my Opera likes to crash after the update every time when i start it. sad

Ar1Pear1pe Friday, March 16, 2007 5:20:47 PM

Crashes every time for me too!

Daned4n3 Friday, March 16, 2007 5:21:24 PM

When the devs are on a lookout for regressions, a release is coming yes

JukkaTenho Friday, March 16, 2007 5:22:30 PM

Yep, crashes here too. Fresh profile did not help, it still crashes.

CheekyBoinc Friday, March 16, 2007 5:22:58 PM

*thumbs up*

I Love Opera smile

Geoff GirardinG-off Friday, March 16, 2007 5:26:17 PM

Crashes as soon as I start it.

Seems to be a Windows only bug.

Rijk Friday, March 16, 2007 5:26:43 PM

@Steno, @ar1pe, @Tenho, G-off:


Does the crash-on-startup go away if you disable Voice before upgrading?

Ricardo FerreiraRichardCooper Friday, March 16, 2007 5:28:03 PM

Crashes as soon as I start it. sad

MathiasMathiasfr Friday, March 16, 2007 5:29:13 PM

Thanks ! smile

Josh Leejleedev Friday, March 16, 2007 5:29:17 PM

Two problems:

1. Amazon and Yahoo! searches keep reappearing on my personal bar. These were the only two of the built-in personal bar searches that I had kept during previous versions. Editing them in the Search preferences fixed this.

2. When using a customized dialog.ini, the speed dial configure dialog doesn't open at all. I had to manually merge in the new dialog into my dialog.ini.

Ar1Pear1pe Friday, March 16, 2007 5:29:35 PM

@Rijk;

I made a fresh install, and it worked ok. Then I just copied my profile and mail and it still works.

I don't have voice enabled.

Kenneth Crudupkennycrudup Friday, March 16, 2007 5:30:06 PM

Woohoo! Start Bar's back!

KujaIXKuja-IX Friday, March 16, 2007 5:30:39 PM

When a fixe for this vulnerability : http://secunia.com/advisories/24312/ will be published ?

berend ytsmaytsmabeer Friday, March 16, 2007 5:31:09 PM

SpeedDial crashes on my.
I am going to clear it and try again.


Cleared the SpeedDial, all is fine now.
8 thumbnails using

Ahui886 Friday, March 16, 2007 5:38:19 PM

good job
thanks

chrislu Friday, March 16, 2007 5:38:51 PM

YAY for startbar!

GREAT JOB!

johannordholm Friday, March 16, 2007 5:39:11 PM

Yay a new version! No crashes here..

JukkaTenho Friday, March 16, 2007 5:40:03 PM

Rijk: disabling voice before the upgrade did the trick.
Now the newest build seems to be working fine.

FataL Friday, March 16, 2007 5:40:55 PM

When you try to rearrange items in SD by dragging, some places over thumbnails don't accept dropping ("decline" cursor showed).

svetlin Friday, March 16, 2007 5:41:55 PM

Works perfect, mail is fine. The only crash was when using some of the "Opera developer tools" on Speed dial. When I open the developer console I get a blank page, right left click to go back to Speed dial and crash.
I'm using the unix build.

Pierrera-mon Friday, March 16, 2007 5:43:02 PM

No crashes here, with empty profile...

but:
Opera.exe         8746 caused exception C0000005 at address 67CA9CC0 (Base: 400000)

when enabling voice control with speeddial opened.

Thanks for SD improvements bigsmile

FataL Friday, March 16, 2007 5:43:54 PM

SD still not obey "Reuse current tab" option.

abid78 Friday, March 16, 2007 5:45:28 PM

No crash whatsoever. trying hard but just cant. Thanks Opera team.

agony Friday, March 16, 2007 5:47:30 PM

speed dial does no longer shows the names under the thumbs

and everytime I restart the browser the search engines are back in the personal bar and I have to remove them every time :\

Linux, shared version

Johan Borgborg Friday, March 16, 2007 5:47:34 PM

@FataL: How? When SD is the active tab, the link should open there regardless of Reuse current tab, just like a blank tab would. Or is it something else?

xcbxcbxcbxcbLontronics Friday, March 16, 2007 5:47:42 PM

Thanks, seems to work fine here (static build Linux)

fReAk87 Friday, March 16, 2007 5:48:27 PM

hmm...
upgrading -> first start -> crash
delete profile folder -> start -> crash
deinstall -> new install -> crash

what can i do?

Kyle Bakerkyleabaker Friday, March 16, 2007 5:58:24 PM

Awesome! Testing now!

[EDIT]
Speed dial definitly seems to be a lot smoother! Some pages are very friendly with speed dial. For example, try signing into your gamil account and then adding gmail.com to your speed dial list. You'll see that the thumbnail that is captured is the blank page with the "Loading" note at the top corner. This does not help at all when using speed dial cause it's not an appropriate thumbnail. I think that the tumbnail should be updated to the last shot of the loaded page. So if it updates itself then the thumbnail should as well. I'm sure there are plenty of users who will use gmail on a speed dial button and will not be pleased with the resulting thumbnail.

Also just wanted to say thanks for listening to us and bringing back the Start bar! Optional is better than none at all! Glad to see a direct response to some of our feedback! I can honestly say that this is my favorite build thus far!

The textbox field is still too wide on this page. Is anyone else seeing this? http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/1854/desktopteamtextareacz5.png ..anyone?

Alexis DeveriaFyrd Friday, March 16, 2007 5:59:59 PM

This may be a minor issue, but I would prefer the entries not to be reloaded when starting Opera (though it's great it has been fixed on new window/tab!). If possible, having the option to keep them cached unless specifically reloaded manually would be great. smile

Akbalder Friday, March 16, 2007 6:12:29 PM

I had crashes too but setting "VoiceXML Enabled" to 0 in opera6.ini solved the problem.

FataL Friday, March 16, 2007 6:15:18 PM

Originally posted by borg:

@FataL: How? When SD is the active tab, the link should open there regardless of Reuse current tab, just like a blank tab would. Or is it something else?

Hmmm... Yeah, you right. I just can't get accustomed yet to the fact that SD is a blank page. bigsmile

RuneSB Friday, March 16, 2007 6:16:56 PM

I don't know where to say this :
I wish you will have an @mail where to reach you !
(can't find it!)
Enyway:
Someone has "blockt me", but i can still see them, please correct this!
And i can't do enything:
So, make the block work both ways, plz

whatever2 Friday, March 16, 2007 6:17:10 PM

my previous account somwhat stopped working, so im back with 2 instead of 3 smile

nice to see a new 'monthly build'. im a little worried, because you guys spent almost a month on something that extension writter could do in few days. i dont know what youve spent rest o that time on, but i hope it is good. because.. well.. opera is lacking polish in more than one part, and still nothing is done to it

ive read chat with operas CEO, and was amused, that 'everything is worked on'. nice.. so next im to believe in miracles?

btw, this new build ceased working, upgrade or not, so no opera for me from now on. and ive never used voice, so guess again.

ive noticed fakeOnContextMenu function in browser.js - isnt it better to just add that damn event? and about browser.js - it does not update with 'check for updates' and if it does, i get some 503 error from xml.opera.whatever. guys, you REALY should invest some time and money in stability of your hardware. it sucks, 2 years after 'great' community [that still is inferior to even free forum software] and i still get server monkeys! it isnt funny, you know..

about the speed dial. 5 diggs on digg show you its cool factor. and it is nice that i can hide it completly, but well, opera crashes.. [both vista/2k3]

ps. we are delighted that development of devTools stopped, build 2520 for long time. it is nice to have an excuse why to not bother and what to say to customer if he wants opera support. 'cant be done, prducer does not provide devTools, and ignores questions from us' [yes, you do!]

enough rant.

to sum it up - opera crashes on both my rigs, completly and i dont have and never had voice installed/enabled

Investor Friday, March 16, 2007 6:18:01 PM

No crashes, SD is working fine (opens in new blank tab)... up

(now, all configuration by using context menu... no more drag/drop from Tab to SD)

Steve DarkenDarken Friday, March 16, 2007 6:19:09 PM

woooohoooo >>

Put startbar back into the configuration


Thanx! cheers up

rghammo Friday, March 16, 2007 6:20:45 PM

Great build so far.

I would like to reiterate that the thumbnails would be more helpful if they were larger or there was an option to zoom in on them easily. One easy (it seems) way to accomplish this is to allow users to choose not to display the search bar at the top of the speed dial/blank tab. I would bet that lots of Opera users use the address bar to search (g "", etc.) making the google bar useless. Without, the tab would have an inch or so more screen space and would therefore be larger. I still vote for a zoom option but maybe that is difficult to implement.

Is this (eliminating the search bar on the SD tab) possible currently? Can it be considered for future builds?

Thanks and keep up the great work!

spiffytech Friday, March 16, 2007 6:28:25 PM

I, too, am experiencing the reappearing search issue on my personal bar with each Opera startup. This is on Windows XP.

Also, the drag-and-drop function of the Speed Dial items is a bit tricky to work. If I drag the item to the center of the desired position, it doesn't move.

Rafald.i.z. Friday, March 16, 2007 6:29:22 PM

  • Majority of new features and fixes goes to Kastrel and Opera 10. Opera 9.20 is just being polished at this stage.
  • New builds does not have access to browser.js immediately. Server needs to be configured to send customized browser.js to particular build (I guess).
  • I agree we should have real support for oncontextmenu and some more updates to devConsole.


whatever...

Tamil Friday, March 16, 2007 6:29:29 PM

While opening new tab, new speed dial should not be shown if there is an speed dial already (Opera should focus already opened speed dial).

Bill PBill_P Friday, March 16, 2007 6:31:51 PM

Search.ini - it appears every time I reconfigure my search.ini to be as I had it before Opera decides it knows better and forces it to change as soon as Opera is reloaded. This is wrong, I would hope it's not a feature but a bug that is fixed in the next weekly. Even when I delete searches in preferences they come back.

I note that the search.ini changes are not made to the actual file but adjusted within the program so as to not allow removal or change of placement - this is just not right.

Vinodvinodkk1 Friday, March 16, 2007 6:32:24 PM

Why all the speed dial /Start bar thingies when you could simply do this .

http://files.myopera.com/vinodkk1/files/newfeature.JPG

Btw how is speed dial state '0' supposed to look like ..Everythings blank here

FavDjiXas Friday, March 16, 2007 6:35:24 PM

Great new build.

It's just bit sad that you work more on speed dial but not on other great features like (repating again) auto complete and so on :-)

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