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9.2 Beta

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Thank you!

Great feedback here over the last few weeks has helped us a lot and we're happy to see 9.2 Beta going live on labs.opera.com :hat:

In other good news, Adobe has announced Creative Suite 3 where Opera is used by several components as a rendering engine.

Changelogs:

A short changelogApproaching 9.2

Comments

Miłosz Sakowski 28. March 2007, 20:47

Yo. Speed Dial is great, but I need one more thing in it (Or maybe it's allready possible but I don't know about it :wink: ) Anyway... I need to open Speed Dial on allready used card (If You don't understand what am I talking about watch a picture: http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9176/operanx4.jpg without closing this card and clickin' "new card" or "nowa" button in my Polish version. Easiest said: One click and old card is gone and i have new one with speed dial. :wink: Sorry for my english. I know that it's realy poor, but I'm only 16 so you have to forgive me.
BTW. Great Job Opera Team! I Love You. IMO You are something like Zorro, Power Rangers, Batman and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in one. And And my oppinion for ending: Work on Opera's stability, RAM and CPU ussage and speed. Not on widgets, gadgets, Bittorrents and other shit.
:* from Poland.

darkangeldread 28. March 2007, 21:53

The speed-dial is really nice; I have to say the Ctrl+# is a really really useful function, moreso than the visual layout. One thing about the visual layout that would make it much more useful would be if there were an option to set an auto-refresh time on the thumbnail-- I see the most obvious advantage of the thumbnail page over the Ctrl shortcut being that the thumbnail will tell you if a page has been updated since you last saw it.

Thank you for the new beta, and keep up the good work.

Arnt 28. March 2007, 23:10

@darkangeldread: Have you tried to right-click on the thumbnail? Hint; look for 'Reload every'. :smile:

FataL 28. March 2007, 23:33

Is it possible to release patch for updatings Opera's modules in CS3?

Shure no way!
I even think that Adobe using modified version of engine...

jeroo 28. March 2007, 23:41

Super!!! Been running well for the last week without a hitch - Top stars!

Ricardo 29. March 2007, 00:04

@Rijk: When I press buttons in webpages they don't change its state (i.e. pressed down/up) (in other words, they only change the mouse-over effect but don't indicate that have been push).
WinXP SP2 up-to-date.

WhineWhine 29. March 2007, 00:28

Originally posted by sysakPL:

And my oppinion for ending: Work on Opera's stability, RAM and CPU ussage and speed.


What makes you think that they aren't already?

Not on widgets, gadgets, Bittorrents and other shit.


People like "shit", so why shouldn't Opera work on "shit"?



Originally posted by tsarhan:

So, when Opera will release Opera 10 could we update Opera's files in CS3 (cause I guess, that next CS4 we'll not see earlier than 2010, but Opera 10 maybe even in 2008)?

Is it possible to release patch for updatings Opera's modules in CS3?


Why are you asking Opera what Adobe will do to their product? If you want to know about CS3, ask Adobe.

xcv 29. March 2007, 00:51

another .number change and STILL Flash is broken, opera-plugin wrapper is shit, please look at FF code and rewrite that piece of crap


cybcode sounds like my problem, same here also on ubuntu, static and dynamic builds, hmm maybe its ubuntu? it literally flies under Wine but slows down native

cybrstudd 29. March 2007, 02:18

I've noticed the mis-alignment of thumbnails on the speed dial page, and I have a feeling it's related to the screen aspect ratio. I'm using a wide screen laptop, and running Opera maximized, and all my thumbnails are off to the right, but if I reload the speed dial page, they line up correctly until I visit the page again. Maybe it would work best to make the thumbnail the same aspect ratio as the monitor so the thumbnail looks the same as what the user typically sees. Screen real estate shouldn't be an issue, because if you have a widescreen monitor, then the widescreen thumbnails will just be wider and fill your screen better also.

Just my 2 cents!

Edit: A few more things, is if you scroll down on the page and then do a reload, and then close out of it, the thumbnail shows this scrolled down view.

The other thing is instead of a reload every X seconds or minutes, I would like to see settings like once a day, because I'm only looking for changes every day, or even if it was every hour, or 6 hours, etc.

Khaled Khalil 29. March 2007, 02:25

opera try to open the binaries from this page itself instead of downloading it, that's grotesque!

Khaled Khalil 29. March 2007, 03:30

i have now two bugs to report, but looking for confirmation from other users
1) all pages at http://www.sun.com/[/ur] doesn't show in the thumbnail preview.
2) (opera linux only), every time i open opera, some speed dials (usual 4) are replaced by others that already exist. here is 2 screenshots: 1 and 2

Khaled Khalil 29. March 2007, 03:43

Originally posted by borg:

Adobe has announced Creative Suite 3 where Opera is used

good news for them, but for us (opera users) i doubt it make change, i know they already use presto from opera 7, but i wonder if they will plan to support opera in their flash plugin player (operapluginwrapper slayer) in return!, i think that's your right to request, they know opera deserve it

Alexei 29. March 2007, 04:08

I do not think I will ever do beta testing again. In the new Beta, videos from gamespy did not work (for example, here: http://media.pc.gamespy.com/media/823/823989/vid_1913648.html), so I reinstalled the Opera 9.1 and all of my passwords were gone... :frown:

Khaled Khalil 29. March 2007, 04:13

Originally posted by ~borg:

In order to adjust to the change of the market in addition to that, because the road map is on occasion renewed

/*from keiki's burogu (sorry, keiki's ブログ) in his interview with J. Borg*/

so this beta will be one step toward kestrel or peregrine or another raptor ?
in other term what is the percentage of what is completed by the overall road map ?
just interested to know

JensusUT 29. March 2007, 04:41

@vladaa, very nice bug overview!
Especially the text selection in input fields like this one i'm typing while double or three times click is very bothering; every little text editor (even notepad!) can handle that.

Nevertheless: Good job, Opera... beta 2 looks fine!

Sam Arthur Allen 29. March 2007, 05:30

Good job. I like speed dial but it's a bit slow on this system when showing up for the first time--it takes around 3 seconds to show up a new tab, but that's on a P4 1.7Ghz/256MB DDR/Intel945G onboard graphics with Ubuntu 6.10 and Beryl 3D SVN running.

Regardless, I still use speed dial for any pages I need to sign in to regularly (online banking, ebay, site administration pages, etc.).

Go Team Opera! What'll they think of next? :idea:

metavoid 29. March 2007, 06:31

Seems that the old spellchecker bug (#253106) will never be fixed :frown:

MisterE 29. March 2007, 07:17

Originally posted by Khaled Khalil:

opera try to open the binaries from this page itself instead of downloading it, that's grotesque!


Opera does what it's told to do. The page sends a text/plain mime type so it's only natural to display as a web page. They should instead send a mime type of application/octet-stream.
Maybe Opera should contact Idilis and have them rectify this problem.
Also they could implement a check for binary in text/plain because I've seen this issue with other sites and it seems IE and FF ignore the mime type in these cases. Anyway, this has already been discussed on the forums numerous times.

naphil 29. March 2007, 07:26

Hallo,

Opera has become my main internet user agent.

It offers a great degree of customizability apart from lacking firefox-like addons. It has got widgets I know but it would be wonderful to provide a mean to use standard Opera interface to add new functionality. Like a dropdown menu to translate pages in other languages by using user selectable translation services on internet.

Also there is a bug regarding youtube videos. If a youtube video page is loaded in opera for too many hours, you can play the video using the youtube standard view page (small video) but you cannot play the video using the youtube fullscreen view page.

A minor usability fix is needed:
it is not possible to close pages/tabs using the window menu or the tab bar dropdown menu extensor. It could be useful to assign the middle or right mouse button to assolve this function.

I usually abuse opera loading very large multipage sessions (I cannot count them but there are nearly 100 pages) this way the tabs are resized to 2 pixel or less width producing a strange effect (It seems a skinning error), It would be useful in such cases to provide the user an alert dialog box to enable the tab menu extension option.

I hope you read this.
Thank you for putting efforts in making Opera a top browser.

Dhruva Krishnamurthy 29. March 2007, 07:27

First and foremost, thank you Opera for bringing a formidable alternative to IE. Great way to go. The usability, look 'n feel is very pleasing and I am getting hooked to Opera.
Is there anyway to insert timestamps into the Opera notes. I prefer to prefix timestamps in notes becuase I keep few notes (broad topics) and update the progress under those topics.
I would like to use it more like a dairy. Any help would be welcome. I am currently using GNU Emacs's remember mode.

siergiej 29. March 2007, 07:42

I think it would be nice to be able to use a custom image for a preview. Some sites (i.e. Gmail, Google Calendar) do not load too well in to the preview.

Edmund Blackadder 29. March 2007, 08:32

@AleksOD

That video plays just fine for me at least.

Dierk Haasis 29. March 2007, 09:45

Would have been nice if the changelog tells us that the Expiry link settings have been fixed in this version; Expiry (Hours) at last means hours again ...

illiad 29. March 2007, 09:56

sysakPL: the word you need is 'tab' not 'card' :up:


rasz: please go here or make a new post here with a clear explanation...

If it is not windows, please point this out, eg {linux} myproblem is... :up:

Christian Kliesch 29. March 2007, 10:31

Updated yesterday from 557 to 617. (on Ubuntu Edgy)

Unfortunatly flash movies are broken, just as this creepy myspace player. The flash-window says "loading" but doesn't play the content.

Can anybody confirm this behaviour?

illiad 29. March 2007, 10:44

yes, the flash support in linux is very patchy, but it is up to Adobe & and the distro to get it working...

Rijk 29. March 2007, 12:05

@metavoid: you reported that just a few weeks ago, that's not 'old'.

@AleksOD: the saved passwords will work again when upgrading to 9.20 again. If you are not sure about using a beta version permanently, make backups... Your gamespy link doesn't work here, can't comment on that issue. It would be best if we could figure out what is the problem there.

Joey Wagh 29. March 2007, 12:08

I overwrote my regular 9.10 final with the beta and my start bar is not showing, and I have it enabled in the config.

EDIT: By customizing a toolbar, selecting "Show all toolbars" I was able to turn it back on. However it was not on by just having the config checked.

Szőts Ákos 29. March 2007, 12:09

The newest release of Opera (9.20 Beta 1, 617, Linux, i686, 2.6.21-rc4-git5-3-default, Qt 3.3.8) uses 100% CPU many times. For example when I close tabs or log out from Gmail etc. It's totally random, so I can't say that Opera does this all the time, but very annying, indeed.

Oh, Gmail: please fix middle-click inserting.

Petter Nilsen 29. March 2007, 12:50

@sysakPL: http://my.opera.com/toman/blog/ has a button to toggle speed dial from anywhere. I use it myself :-D

@darkangeldread: right click a thumbnail, reload every...

@cybrstudd: Please bug report it and provide a screenshot.

berend ytsma 29. March 2007, 12:59

@DjiXas: is there a bug rapport of that problem?

Jan De Luyck 29. March 2007, 13:05

When will the bug related to linux opera & flash 9 and urls not working finally be fixed? This has been around for AGES and is highly annoying...

Example site:

http://www.tourtaxis.com/

None of the language selector buttons work.

Torleif Persson 29. March 2007, 13:28

I really hope you fix this soon in some way:

http://d7386.p7389.com/outside/operaratio.jpg

(pages renders in widescreen, and well, doesn't look good in standradscreen previews - it's the same when holding the cursor at a tab for a preview - and it's extremely annoying... my screen res is 1440x990)

cousin333 29. March 2007, 13:57

I can see, that sometime you've changed the thumbnail size in the right-click + scroll function (when you surfing among opened tabs). But the aspect ratio is bad. The space for thumbs is very height but narrow, so the actual thumbnail is too small, and there is a lot of free space above and below. Can you change is, please?

Joey Wagh 29. March 2007, 14:16

I don't know if anyone posted this yet, but the "+" zoom button is broken and the % does not get updated when I don't show the view bar when hitting the "-" (zoom out)

xcv 29. March 2007, 15:02

illiad you mean like this one :
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=127747

this is 'general slowness' thread + my posts about 'Linux ubuntu super extra slowness'

or do you mean 100th post about operapluginwrapper crashing under Linux when opening 2 pages with flash at a time, java links embedded in flash not working and general barely working flash, all while EVERY OTHER Linux browser can use the same plugin with no problem = something is wrong on opera front.

xcv 29. March 2007, 15:06

>yes, the flash support in linux is very patchy, but it is up to Adobe & and
>the distro to get it working...

no, its NOT
EVERY other linux browser has ZERO problem with the current 8.x 9.x flash plugins, embedded links work, flash on 20 simultaneously open tabs work, ONLY opera has problems.

xcv 29. March 2007, 15:13

>The newest release of Opera (9.20 Beta 1, 617, Linux, i686, 2.6.21-rc4-git5-
>3-default, Qt 3.3.8) uses 100% CPU many times. For example when I close
>tabs or log out from Gmail etc. It's totally random, so I can't say that
>Opera does this all the time, but very annying, indeed.

I SO hope that it will show up on every Linux install so Opera has to take care of this bug.


btw earlier I posted wrong link, I meant that one :

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=156692

from http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=156692&t=1175181110&page=1#comment1758235

Rijk 29. March 2007, 15:31

Originally posted by Wajo357:

the "+" zoom button is broken and the % does not get updated




How is the + zoom broken? It works for me here. Issue with non-updating zoom value is known.

Sergiy Adamenko 29. March 2007, 16:30

Opera really goes better with every beta :smile:

>> Opera is used ... as a rendering engine.
Would you mind license or free distibute Opera rendering engine for other developers of WYSIWYG editors?

paolopetrone 29. March 2007, 16:30

To attention of Opera staff. I'm an italian user and I'm a Mac user. I want to indicate two bugs in this beta version.
1) The window "Search" on menu bar isn't modifiable as in precedent version. If I want to transform a window "Search" ("Google" e.g.), I go in "Preferences" -> "Search" -> "Google" -> "Modify" -> "Details" -> "Address" and I modify the predefined address of Google Search with the address that I prefer ("Alice" e.g.). Then I click "Ok". In menu bar the modify appears. However when I close and when I reopen "Opera" the menu bar is wrong. The window "Search" on menu bar is newly "Google" and not "Alice".
2) If I go to "Struments" -> "Aspect" -> "Keys" -> "Search", it isn't here the windows "Search" that I have set up in "Preferences".
As can I resolve these problems?
Sorry for my scholastic english, I hope that my signallings are of aid for you.

Bye.

Paolo

Dove 29. March 2007, 17:59

Please! Give to Opera users plugin API for Extensions (and SDK) !!!

Szőts Ákos 29. March 2007, 18:17

I don't know whether this bug is my-Opera-specific or not, but try to download this .exe file on this site:
http://my.opera.com/szotsaki2

When you click to the Képek letöltése text, Opera starts downloading the file in background. After I try to cancel it when the "Open/Save/Cancel" dialog box appears. Then, Opera eats 100% CPU and freezes for a minute. After I killed.

My Opera configuration on openSUSE Alpha 10.3 2: (9.20 Beta 1, 617, Linux, i686, 2.6.21-rc4-git5-3-default, Qt 3.3.8)

Alexei 29. March 2007, 18:25

THank you, Rijk, for your comment. Here is the link to all the flash movies I was interested in: http://media.pc.gamespy.com/media/823/823989/vids_1.html
Just click on "Watch it now (high res/low res)". Maybe it's just me who has weird flash problems...

bobwonderful 29. March 2007, 19:29

What is the change from 8732?

Lali 29. March 2007, 21:49

I found a bug: I make block content, and the speed dial make his picture...
Here is my screen picture: http://www.bartosslajos.atw.hu/letoltes/opera/kepek/error2.png

Andres 29. March 2007, 22:16

Hi, so Build 8762 is the Same 9,2 Beta....

Okidoki

Tks a lot

Hugo Del Castillo 29. March 2007, 23:58

On the first install and using the default toolbar, there is NO Home buttom on the address bar.

It used to be on the Start Bar, but now that the bar is disabled by defaulf, there is no way to get to your home page unless you add the buttom to one of your bars.

For a new user, this setting may be comfusing.

You may want to added to the default Address bar.

Any one agrees?

Brandon 30. March 2007, 00:50

I definately agree.

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