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Altijd al eens kennis willen maken met de halfgoden van het Desktop Team :wink:? Brandende vragen? Of gewoon een brandende dorst? Dit is je kans!

Op maandag 28 mei (tweede pinksterdag) zal bijna het voltallige Desktop Team aanwezig zijn bij een Opera User Meeting in Utrecht, waar wij hopen een drankje te nuttigen met eenieder die daar zin in heeft. Als dat je nog niet overtuigd heeft, is er als klap op de vuurpijl een kans om eigenaar te worden van een van de felbegeerde Opera t-shirts! Niet te missen dus.

De meeting zal plaatsvinden rond 13:00 in Cafe De Flater, Oudegracht 140, Utrecht. Als je van plan bent om te komen, reply dan even in deze thread, zodat we een idee hebben over het aantal mensen dat we kunnen verwachten. Meer informatie is te vinden in de forumpost van Mark Schenk.

Tot dan!

So you didn't get that?

In case there are people reading this blog that can't read Dutch, let me rephrase that.

The Desktop Team is getting ready for a full out invasion of the Netherlands, and we're taking no prisoners! However, if you happen to be in or around the city of Utrecht on the 28th of May, then this will be a perfect opportunity to have a friendly chat with the people behind Opera while enjoying a beverage of your choice. And if that's not enough, there's also a chance that you'll go home with one of the famous Opera t-shirts!

The meeting will take place at 13:00 in Cafe De Flater, Oudegracht 140, Utrecht. If you plan on attending, please leave a reply in this thread, so that we have some idea of the amount of people that might turn up.

See you there!

And by the way...
Opera 9.21 was just released! Go and update your browsers!

Opera 9.21 buildKestrel is coming!

Comments

ytsmabeer 21. May 2007, 12:32

Dit is al even schrikken als het rusisch.
Wat volgt een post in het Fries?
Jammer ik kan er niet zijn, iets met een elfstedentocht op de fiets.

This is just as is scared as rusian.
Whats next a post in Frisian.

To bad I can not be there, something to do with an 11citytravel on bike

rbb 21. May 2007, 12:34

Ik kom wel even langshobbelen :smile:

Serpher 21. May 2007, 12:42

Hmm.. T-Shirts... ;] I want one of them! :D

remcolanting 21. May 2007, 12:43

Natuurlijk zal ik er ook zijn

albinoni 21. May 2007, 13:20

Ik wil eigenlijk ook wel zo'n t-shirt, maar ik heb geen tijd/zin om te komen. :smile:

edupav 21. May 2007, 14:17

Yessssss, a new release, thanks a lot :smile: :smile: :smile:

Dro77naR 21. May 2007, 14:24

Strange,

when I want to download the package for OpenSuSE 10.2 there is the version from 10.05.2007. Something wrong?

ytsmabeer 21. May 2007, 14:33

Dro77naR:If I am not mistaken than than the final is the same as the latest weekly, so yea that seams right.

nedko 21. May 2007, 14:54

it wouldn't be bad if you specify the build of the Opera being released ... is it 8776 ?

AIRAC 21. May 2007, 15:04

Unless something comes in between I'll be there :-)
Does this have anything to do with the tweakers.net visit to you guys?

Zotlan 21. May 2007, 15:04

8776 it is.
hmm, 't is dat ik het dan vrij druk heb met m'n bachelor werkstuk anders zou ik misschien nog wel even aanwaaien.

DjiXas 21. May 2007, 15:20

So you are running away cause haven't finished 9.5? :-/

9.21 was released ages ago.

rejdi 21. May 2007, 15:37

Any plans to visit Slovakia on tour in future?

rseiler 21. May 2007, 15:42

I think a better justification is in order of why it took most of a week to "announce" the release of 9.21. It seems to me the timing of placing it on the FTP couldn't have been worse: You put it up the day before a holiday. The next day it can't be announced because it's a holiday. The day after that it can't be announced because of a curious restriction on announcing products on a Friday. Then comes the weekend.

Seriously?

Next time, put it up the day *before* the day before a holiday, particularly if the holiday falls on a Thursday, and particularly if said product has been finished for several days at that point anyway...or just wait until Monday.

andresruiz 21. May 2007, 15:44

Hey..have a lot of fun

DjiXas 21. May 2007, 15:44

rseiler, haha.

I thought you will announce 9.5 or 9.22 or any other but not the same version...

Junyor 21. May 2007, 16:15

@rseiler: About the curious restriction: Say that something goes wrong with a Friday release. Well, there's no one around to fix it until Monday.

scipio 21. May 2007, 16:29

Ik was ook van plan om langs te komen - heb het in Marks thread al bevestigd.

Hansapelle 21. May 2007, 17:36

Jammer genoeg kan ik niet even langs komen omdat ik nu eenmaal in Canada woon, alhoewel ik het liefste de Nederlandse versie van Opera gebruik om de taal bij te houden.

Zover heb ik ook met deze nieuwe versie er last van dat het wel meer dan een halve minuut duurt voordat Opera opstart, dat wel een beetje lastig is en met oudere versies had ik daar nooit last mee.
Hoe kan ik dat verhelpen?

Marsjanin 21. May 2007, 18:57

Come to Poland, Guys! ;-) And get lot of T-shirts. ;-)

Fyrd 21. May 2007, 19:21

Hmm, jammer dat ik nu in Amerika woon, anders zou ik er ook wel zijn... :frown:

Veel plezier in elk geval voor alle Nederlanders die er wel zijn! :smile:

Gemini_5 21. May 2007, 19:29

Ik ben erbij! :smile:

Tropos 21. May 2007, 19:42

Ik probeer erbij te zijn!

battousaix 21. May 2007, 21:06

Hello fellow Opera addicts,
I would like to suggest an automatic ad-blocking ad-block filter list updater to be integrated into Opera, since I do believe it would be an absolutely amazing new/improved feature for Opera.
I am suggesting this since I needed to use.....FF for a couple certain websites, I am a Linux/FreeBSD user, so I wince at the option of IE. So during my use I was just rummaging through the extensions to make my temporary stay in FF more bearable, like Mouse Gestures, etc. But one extension I was very impressed with and think our beloved Opera is missing is an automatic ad-blocker. Sure I have set myself approximately 60 generic (http://*.intellitxt.com/*) custom blocked objects within the options, and I basically have about every pop-up/ad/javascript blocked on the sites I do visit frequently. But other individuals may not have the patience as I do in order to create meaningful but overall USEFUL AND IMPRESSIVE ad-blocking filters. SO i say we/you make an option available that can be ticked on by a check box in the same preference section as the built in optional Fraud Protection.

We all know that once a FireFox user gets used to no adds from this Filterset.G list updater for FF extension, they will complain and think Opera as inferior, which we all know is not the case. :wink:

So having a built in, OPTIONALLY turned on ad-block filter list updater (and optional time between filter list checks like every 1-2 weeks) would make Opera an even more formidable opponent in the browser wars , which I wold love to assist in making opera the universal victor.

So some script or built in feature to read the http://www.pierceive.com/filtersetg/latest.txt file to see what the latest filter is, and refer to the most current filter to download, or some other kind of ad/pop-up blocker would be what I'm referring to. If you are using Windows, as I was ~4 months ago, I never worried about FF + AdBlock plus, because if you are using Windows you MUST try a blocking program called Ad Muncher (http://www.admuncher.com/). Since that is the approximate equivalent I would be comparing and referring to, as it was always a required/essential app on my XP box back then, and it worked wonders, no worrying about program slowdown either, since it was a totally standalone app that sat in the system tray, BUT if Opera had some sort of integration or cooperation/inspiration from this, I believe Opera would be making another significant leap ahead of the other available competition browsers.

So Opera Dev's, PLESAE consider considering/refining the ad-block/pop-up blocker to either up to or beyond the standard to other browsers with or without a stint helper extension or app, since I believe the Opera community does deserve a (web)life free of annoying, page delaying ads, no matter what platform they are using opera on, as just a checkable/selectable option like the Fraud protection

Thank you for reading my long post as it is the very first suggestion I have submitted to date, hope it wasn't too boring, and to give a shout out to the guys/gals who make Opera and it cross-platform magic possible, YOU RULE!!!!, OPERA 4 LYFE!! :D

(I also put this post in the Desktop wish-list suggestion forum, but also here to help address the situation)

klingoncowboy4 21. May 2007, 22:04

WTH I get the first weekly and all of the sudden there is a final release?

kyleabaker 21. May 2007, 23:37

Glad to see the latest weekly was made into a final release, however, it wouldn't be bad to see a new build on here for us to play with.. particularly a 9.5x build. :wink:

Also, most likely won't be able to make it to the gathering. I'm about 99.99% sure I won't be able to make it. Too bad tho. I know it will be difficult, but do try to have fun with me there. P:

kamalesh 22. May 2007, 01:33

Build 3678, despite going final as v9.21, apparently, does not load these two popular news sites here in the States (FT, ABC News). :no:

You can go into the FT site via deeper link, but the fly-out menu seems to be broken and does not instantiate in this build...

Galileo 22. May 2007, 06:49

@kamalesh I see no problem with www.ft.com, went to www.ft.com/letters from the menus, http://abcnews.go.com on the other hand its a little difficult to navigate.

RachidNL 22. May 2007, 09:03


That's great; I'll be there! Unfortunately, I actually have to work that day so I can only stay for about an hour. Looking forward to meeting everyone! :smile:

impotent 22. May 2007, 14:28

suddenly.. this thread seems to be invaded by the dutch. (I presume, coz, I dont know dutch)
NE VE, gosh, I would love to have those Tees.

woutervandergraaf 22. May 2007, 14:33

Leuk! Ik zal er zijn!

(Sweet! I'll be there!)

Hansapelle 22. May 2007, 16:04

Like they say: "Keep in touch with the Dutch".
Or: "You're not much if you're not Dutch".:D

Serously though; the comment regarding an ad blocker I am in full agreement with, as I occasionally use the new Maxthon2 browser for certain web sites, which uses IE7 as it`s rendering engine and has a very effective ad blocker.

kasakka 22. May 2007, 17:42

I truly hope we will see improvements to the mail client and RSS reader in the next major version. They're still missing a lot of basic functionality found in other readers/mail clients.

For example limiting the amount of stored RSS feeds would be nice. I have to constantly clean feeds because they have 1000s of messages I'll never read again. Also they should stop Opera from freezing for a moment when several feeds are updated on first start.

People have also wanted a "delete message from server" option for the mail client so that once you delete a message it's also removed from the server. This is most likely familiar to anyone who has gotten spam and then has to go through some webmail to delete it from the mail server as well.

PS. Can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get a WEBSITE SPECIFIC option to enable "UserJS on HTTPS" WITHOUT THAT ANNOYING NAG DIALOG? I need to use a Novell Groupwise webmail that's behind HTTPS and it shows all fucked up in Opera (no Next 50 messages buttons, messages show up in small windows and crap like that). This could be fixed with some UserJS but I don't want to have some click some stupid dialog every time I go read my mail.

hermen2048 22. May 2007, 18:45

Ik kan maandag helaas niet komen :frown:

kyleabaker 22. May 2007, 19:36

@kasakka
If you've read around about 9.5 at all then you'd know that they have openly stated that they freezes have been eliminated in the internal builds of Opera 9.5x (Kestrel). This is the phase that is supposed to start introducing some extreme fixes and improvements.

breun 23. May 2007, 00:01

Ha, ik woon in de buurt. Kans dat ik wel even langskom dan.

Upcoming.org event: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/194556/

Orff 23. May 2007, 14:07

Heh, If I was in Europe, man I'd be in Monaco on the 28th.
Man...anyway adbrite inline ads may not be working with current and past versions,
as with some Amazon ones.

memory_fault 23. May 2007, 21:11


I've downloaded the new version and works ok.
However i've found that yahoo mail beta is complaining about the browser.
With previous release (9.2) yahoo mail beta worked (not excellent but worked).
I've tried to mask or have opera to identify as a different browser but doesn't work.

Thanks

schmitty8225 24. May 2007, 00:28

I think the reason Opera officially release 9.21 is because a flaw just recently got discovered that involves the torrent and people exploiting it to get access to your system.

Netegrof 24. May 2007, 13:07

Opera Team never considered the option of come to Cuba, I think that you can take a lot experience here and maybe who know one or other contract with the Cuban Software Industries, share with the cubans Opera´s fans in this country and that can be other opportunity to expand yours limits.

kyleabaker 24. May 2007, 22:06

Hopefully this will help out with the filters I've already got in place on my M2 account..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6688675.stm

Still waiting..very excitedly for a new release! (64-bit also, lol)

ThArGos 25. May 2007, 07:43

Wow it's cool to travel and see the users =)

Sadly, I can't be there.
Well, come to France =) For Great Justice!

remcolanting 25. May 2007, 09:48

If you can't be there, you can get a piece of Opera sent to your home :yes:

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kyleabaker 26. May 2007, 00:44

So I guess there are no updates this week, eh?

andresruiz 26. May 2007, 04:04

yep...no updates this week, only the Elite is testing 9.5...
we must wait some more.
happy weekend to all of you.

scherian 26. May 2007, 05:38

Windows XP and IPv6 issue. Previous blogs indicate that Opera has been enable to take advantage of IPv6 TCP/IP stack on windows XP.

I did a try today and I have difficulty reaching web site enabled for IPv6 protocol.

Please visit the web url www.ipv6tools.com exprement Opera 9.21 support.

Any idea to resolve this will be helpful.

yurikoles 26. May 2007, 17:13

Что это за баян? Билд 8776 был ещё две недели назад))

jarinkirill 26. May 2007, 18:33

yurikoles, просто теперь он выложен не только в этом блоге, но и на главной страничке opera.com

Rijk 26. May 2007, 21:18

I had a nice day with the team in Amsterdam today. They will try some more bars, I go home now. Pictures will follow soon!

maxstep 27. May 2007, 21:28

Just wanted to say: I LOVE Opera! Thanks guys

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