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Yet another 9.23 build

Hey
We were that close, but still so far away.. We have a new build with just a few fixes:

Changelog
  • More Speed Dial stability fixes
  • Fixed issue with some mouse wheels and scrolling up on Vista
  • Fixed another fuzzer crash



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Fun with the fuzzer9.23 released

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Midusian 9. August 2007, 18:55

idlesskitter: No problems for me with
8805 at avm.de.
Never had any probs here.

Same 9. August 2007, 19:06

No problems form me at http://www.avm.de/

9.23 build 8807

olli 9. August 2007, 19:40

www.avm.de doesn't crash here either. Did anyone report a bug and attach a crashlog?

https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/ for reporting bug

http://people.opera.com/axel/inspectr.exe for generating crashlog

Midusian 9. August 2007, 19:42

Some really annoying things, evertime I install a new Opera version I get this quicklaunch link, I don't want it, could you guys please make an option to install a desktop and qicklaunch shortcut and NOT to install that?
Another annoying thing is that a new Opera version always messes up my custom search bar at the profile folder. I tried to set the useless search.ini file at the main folder to write protect still messes up my bar. How can I protect it, without deleting every new version the .ini file at the main folder??
And this time Opera deleted my toolbar shortcuts, really strange, it happened the 1st time, I'm glad I got a backup ;-)

If you could fix this things would be wonderful p:

idleskitter 9. August 2007, 19:42

Thank you for your replies.
Indeed the site works now on all Opera 9.23 branches.

I'd reckon they changed something at their end meanwhile.
One hour ago Opera 9.23 branches crashed helplessly.

Thanks for your time.

Tim Altman 9. August 2007, 20:03

@rseiler: it's relative to the previous weekly.

@All: The missing Linux/UNIX builds will probably be available tomorrow.

Marcin 9. August 2007, 21:30

ERROR during installation! :-(

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7229/installererror0rp0.png

I prefer updating install, MSI.
Admin privileges account.
Drive O:\ is *SUBST*'ed from C:\Programy\
Does that matter?

PS.
This is my first Opera update after OS upgrade from Win 2000 to Win XP Pro. Under Windows 2000 I got no problem, installation goes through the end without any complication.

All system settings (Opera's folder, SUBST function) is set identical under both systems.

Main difference, Windows 2000 uses old Kerio PF 2.1.5, for my "new" XP I installed Sunbelt Personal Firewall, last version.

Tim Altman 9. August 2007, 21:52

@Marsjanin: Are you an administrator on your system? Sounds like you don't have permission to create that directory.

Marcin 9. August 2007, 22:04

>>Admin privileges account.<<
On both systems.

Maybe I should install it to C:\Programy\Opera\ ? But under Win2k it works great with SUBST-ed O:\Opera\ .

OK... I'll test tommorow some other possible reasons, turning off the firewall etc., now I can't read "those damn small letters" (I know, I know, numpad plus), my eyes are closing without my permission... ;-]

Tim Altman 9. August 2007, 22:08

OK, the missing .debs are up.

Harry Lake 9. August 2007, 23:35

Is there any possibility you could stop the installer deleting the toolbar shortcut icon? Every time I have to go through the palaver of moving the new one along to where I want it...
Cheers, Harry (lazy git...)

boroda1 10. August 2007, 01:46

Thank you very much for a next update!

idleskitter 10. August 2007, 02:50

@HarryLake
What's "the" toolbar shortcut icon?
AFAIK installing a new build over an old one (i.e. same program folder) keeps old menu.ini, toolbar.ini and keyboard.ini files usually. Only search.ini and some style files have to be moved again.

ayespy 10. August 2007, 03:00

I'm betting he means the QuickLaunch icon.

In XP at least, using the Windows Classic Installer, one always gets the choice whether to add a desktop or quicklaunch shortcut or not to add these. If you leave the boxes unchecked, you get no change on the quick launch. If you check the quick launch, it will add one at the bottom and throw your list of quick launch icons out of order.

I've not had the experience of having my existing quick launch shortcut deleted. Ever.

besti 10. August 2007, 05:44

OK, the missing .debs are up.

Kyle Baker 10. August 2007, 08:04

I was hoping that the always below option for widgets would be fixed for Vista users since other problems with widgets came up in 8807, but the bug still exists. Widgets disappear (I suppose below the desktop background image :D) and are unusable until you double click the widget entry in the widget panel and change the level to normal or always on top. When will this be fixed? I rarely use widgets anymore since I can't leave them on my desktop.

Also, I'm not sure, but speed dial seems a lot snappier/faster than it did in previous builds. Maybe I'm just using pages with more white space so the images aren't taking up as much space/memory, hehe P:. Anyway, great work.

Still getting crashers from time to time, however, I think this is related to userjs. Is there an easier way to pin point the script than to test one script at a time til it crashes Opera? Gmail seems to trigger a crash quiet often for me, so if there is no other way then I can just test them one at a time with Gmail as the fuel for a crash and burn, lol.

Thanks for the build.

impotent 10. August 2007, 09:44

NE Friday bash, today?
just plain curiosity?

David 10. August 2007, 10:09

The drop-down menues on this page isnt working, and have not been working either. http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C1&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859837314&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=3731480286H30&displaypage=download

Some of the pages on linksys.com also makes the browser quit without any warning of any sort. Not even an error message. Anyone confirm this?

Hans Bendiksen 10. August 2007, 10:39

@davidviolin: The menu works for me. ID as Opera on Vista 32. Did not crash yet either... Will try to "surf hard" and see what happens.

Martin Tang 10. August 2007, 10:53

@davidviolin,

The drop-down menu at the top works fine here.

Are you using some content blockers or ad blockers?

David 10. August 2007, 11:06

I'm talking about the drop down menues that appears when you want to select a product under "select product category". I am not using any blockers.

The crash occurs when you browse to a firmware upgrade (in my case the WRT54G wireless router) and click on the link for firmware info. It tries to open a Word document but then just quits with no warning. Can you try and reproduce this? Must be a rather nasty bug...


ID as Opera Win xp sp2

Hans Bendiksen 10. August 2007, 11:21

Yes, you are right. Those doesn't work. Tried masking and ID as Firefox and IE, but no luck.

But could not reproduce any crash.

searchme 10. August 2007, 12:47

@davidviolin: The info links can be slow. The firmware link I tried (wrt54gl) popped up a window that looked like a target:blank at first, but ultimately displayed gobbledygook (to me) -- like a binary file displayed. The opera download dialog overlaid the pop-up immediately (while the pop-up display was still blank). Opera hung and had to be killed [edit] ... after I tried to cancel the download. On a second try I noticed that the pop-up window seems to display the zip file while it is being downloaded but download was successful.[/edit]

Lee Hayward 10. August 2007, 13:37

Hi,

I also have a MS wireless 6000 mouse and using default mouse settings (which work fine for *all* other apps in vista). I have found in 8808 that the mouse scrolling is still a bit twitchy (over sensitive?). When you scroll up, and stop moving the mouse wheel, the page will scroll down a little bit. I know it is me moving the mouse down a touch causing this, but as I say, it does not happen in IE or firefox.

Lee

Morten 10. August 2007, 17:45

Opera.exe 8808 caused exception C0000005 at address 300852BA (Base: 400000)


Site : http://www.romereborn.virginia.edu/
Reproduce : Gallery > Still images > Change image > Crash

(9.23 - b 8808 - out of the box - win32 XP sp2 - 348 mhz 256 ram - broadband)

Btw. no regression, same in older builds...

FataL 10. August 2007, 18:01

Investor, no crash here under Windows XP...
Maybe it depends on version of Flash installed.
I have Flash plugin 9,0,16,0
Last version of Flash 9,0,47,0

Morten 10. August 2007, 18:17

Got Adobe flash v. 9.0.28.0 ... Crash (every time) when going from image #1 (far left) to #2

Hmm... hope Kestrel weekly got it fixed (= better flash support) :wink:

Øyvind Østlund 10. August 2007, 18:46

@Investor:
Using WinXp SP2, with Flash Player (9,0,47,0). Can't reproduce what you see, sorry. Been clicking like crazy on the images.


- ØØ -

Marcin 10. August 2007, 18:56

(Continuing: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/1231987?startidx=50#comment3332266 )

Well. I don't know, what is wrong.
I tried to turn off the firewall (that also keeps information about CRC-sums, and allows (or not) launch programs from other programs). No way.
I tried to get that folder for my own. Nope.
Then logged as Administrator, try own the folder, try to install... The same result.
Then login again as me (my normal account got full admin's rights too), and again own the folder (and of course all elements inside), and install, no change, rather the folder PWND (owned) me. ;-)
Also, i tried to do some mess ;-) in advanced safety/rights settings of the folder, with none success.
And finally, I tried to move whole Opera's directory to partition with FAT-32 filesystem, and back. No result, the same error. :-(

Finally I ran Windows 2000, synchronized (in Total Commander) O:\Opera (C:\Programy\Opera) on 2000 with newer files in G:\Programy\Opera (C:\Programy\Opera and O:\Opera when running XP) - then install new Opera (with no problems), then copy / synchronice it in back way, copying newer files to XP partition. Works great, just firewall found opera.exe as changed (normal situation). But I still don't know, why it didn't work with my XP. Well, let's see when another weekly will be ready! :-)


OK, now I got another thing... A maybe little request, but I wait for it as for deliverance.

Is it possible, that Opera start to use horizontal (second) scroll wheel in a mouse?

Morten 10. August 2007, 18:56

Ok, site works ID'd IE ... thanks...

Edit : Oops, no it doesn't... new crashes... anyway just waiting for Kestrel :wink:

Andres 10. August 2007, 21:25

Phred 11. August 2007, 00:01

@andresruiz: agreed

@staff: Will Merlin receive any UserJS fixes or enhancements?

Is there a reason widgets are glorified but there is no central place (like userjs.opera.com) to host userjs?

Kyle Baker 11. August 2007, 02:36

I've been working a lot lately on a web forum that I manage. I've noticed that lately (with the last couple of builds and maybe before that) when I edit a template or page and click reload, F5 or Alt-F5 the pages almost always reload but fail to load ~50% of the images on the page. A simple right click and reload image reloads them no problem, but every time I have to manually reload the images to view the pages correctly. Sometimes, however, I can just activate (click in) the address bar and press enter and the page loads and all of the images are there. The progress bar shows the progress of the images and counts through all of them but doesn't display an image for all every time.

The only thing that I can think of that might cause problems for Opera is that a mod that I installed on the forum currently displays tools to the admin at the header and footer and uses the same id for two of the same images. I am going to have to correct this as the mod contained some other invalid code, but that is the only validation error on the page. I will attempt to make a test page and see if this is reproducible with ids that are already defined, but I can't promise that this is the cause of the refresh problem. If anyone would like to test this then you can go here..
http://www.bimmermania.com/
..and just pick a post to read and click reload. It may not do this the first time so reload a couple times. It drives me crazy when I'm fine tuning the templates, haha. Thanks to those who test this odd little bug. If I can narrow it down then I'll file a report. :D

shaneh 11. August 2007, 02:36

Thanks for the mouse wheel update - however there is still a bit of a bug with it. After scrolling down, and then up, it first scrolls down a little bit.

My guess is you are adding up the deltas on WM_MOUSEWHEEL, and when you scroll up, there is still a bit of 'left over' delta from scrolling down which is causing it to scroll down a bit first.

It may seem like a negligble problem, but it is incredibly distracting when you switch to Opera after using other applications and have it twitch slightly differently while you are trying to read a page.

bildos 11. August 2007, 09:04

One more time the same bug: At Vista after update build bookmarks disapear from opera folder... The same was with the previous build.

Rune Kenneth Meisingset 11. August 2007, 10:06

I sometimes get duplicate entries for the same key in the widgets.dat file with this build. I haven't seen this before.

illiad 11. August 2007, 11:25

kyleabaker: AFAIK, 'missing images' is due to opera overloading the pipe...(reduce your 'network connections' setting )
Opera is trying to get more than can be supplied! Is there a 'timeout' or something else you can do to streamline or prioritise these?? (not an expert, only guessing... :smile: )

you could try changing the 'redraw' time, but otherwise its for the wishlist - JPG loading is already 'optimised' AFAIK, but a 'priority' or 'cache first' setting would be nice... :smile:

Andres 11. August 2007, 17:03

2 times since thursday: [Opera Not Responding] randomly browsing on Adobe.com
Everything works again after restarting.

Kamalesh 11. August 2007, 18:03

Little off-topic, but just found a GREAT screen-capture/screencast tool, called Jing, that can allow sharing of "visual" bug reports. :smile:

May be very useful for us in myriad ways...

mabdul 11. August 2007, 20:49

@Investor no crash at winXP op8808 flash 9.0.47.0

o.O

David 11. August 2007, 22:59

www.yousendit.com - major rendering problems..... most of them after you log in.

Kyle Baker 12. August 2007, 02:57

@illiad
You are most likely correct as I just recently changed that setting hoping for better performance, hehe. I guess I will change it back for now, but it really helps when I'm at school with their insane connection speeds, haha.

g4qb 12. August 2007, 06:55

ctrl-shift-0 doesn't work in vista.
use ctrl-alt-shift-0 as an alternative.

hopefully this will be fixed in kestrel :smile:

bildos 12. August 2007, 07:40

http://tvmyx.com/television.htm - Ddon't display correct

Slava Uvarov 12. August 2007, 08:03

www.dpreview.com doesn't render correctly. Never had problem with this site since Opera 3.62 :frown:

Galileo 12. August 2007, 10:23

www.dpreview.com is fine here, can you give a screenshot?
//Also nice that you fixed the log in process for the blog. :smile:

J_C_Denton1 12. August 2007, 11:14

My first post!
Ive been using Opera since v8.xx
This built 9.23 is very laggy compared to previous one (9.22).
When a page is loading (with progressing bar), sometimes typing in search bar or clicking navigation button becomes very slow & laggy. Im using Core Duo.

Blaz Pristy 12. August 2007, 13:04

Opera sometimes just suks sorry this site is ok in IE,Safari and Firefox but Opera...
http://www.phonegg.com/comparison/

Check for your self...

Michel 12. August 2007, 13:08

@Filip007: You're right. The site is totally screwed up. I'm using latest weekly on Mac OS X.

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