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Go and get Opera 9.5 alpha!

By Huib Kleinhout. Tuesday, 4. September 2007, 06:40:32

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Fasten your seatbelts, and get ready to test drive Kestrel yourself. After more than a year of development, we invite you to test Opera 9.5 alpha and tell us what you think about it.
In short, Opera 9.5 alpha is:
  • Performance
  • Full history search
  • Improved site compatibility
  • Access for everyone
  • Improved platform integration
  • Preview of bookmark and Speed Dial synchronization
  • Magic Windows build number :jester:
And much more! Take a look at the huge changelogs :faint: to see what is new:
Windows
Mac
UNIX

Don't forget to report bugs, but check the Known Issues list in the changelogs and discuss them in the Beta Testing forum, in the opera.beta newsgroup, or in #weekly first.

And now: go and get it! :cheers: We recommend that you make a clean install and copy over your profile data (but not your preferences file) if you'd like to test the upgrade procedure. You may not be able to downgrade if you upgrade an existing install!

Stay tuned for more updates and builds on the Desktop Team blog.

Download:
Opera 9.5 alpha for Windows
Opera 9.5 alpha for Mac
Opera 9.5 alpha for Unix

Focus Areas during Kestrel DevelopmentOpera Link explained

Comments

Stifu 4. September 2007, 08:43

Originally posted by Jack Malmostoso:

One question though: I can't find the option to enable the "X" button on every tab. Can someone help me?


Tools / Preferences / Advanced / Tabs / Show close button on each tab

Edit: I'm too late, I see. But it works fine here.

gaild82 4. September 2007, 08:43

I miss clicking 1 and 2 for switching between tabs - will adjust my shortcuts accordingly. Also I noticed I can zoom out by pressing the minus (-) button but cannot zoom back using the zero (0)...

Do you think we could get a way to back up our toolbars config/layouts using synchronization?

Oh and I've got drag and scroll enabled and I just tried selecting text to delete in the "write a comment" frame - unfortunately, the mouse didn't select any text...it just scrolled the page up and down :frown:

Oh and Veoh videos don't seem to show up though you can hear the audio...

But Kestrel is super fast - I desperately want to install it over my regular Opera to see how it works with mail - still, will wait for the beta.

Though the one thing people are probably still going to want like hell is an inline spell checker.

Tor Odland 4. September 2007, 08:46

So fast... So good...

Claudio Santambrogio 4. September 2007, 08:51

Originally posted by gaild82:

will adjust my shortcuts accordingly



Prefs > advanced > shortcuts > enable single key shortcuts :wink:

StanislawkoviC 4. September 2007, 08:51

Problem with javascript:
In Opera 9.23 it looks: http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=923ii7.jpg

In Opera 9.50:
http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=950tu3.jpg

arghwashier 4. September 2007, 08:52

Why does Opera say it uses Qt library 3.3.7? Wasnt Kestrel supposed to use Qt4?

Version
9.50 Alpha
Build
1567
Platform
Linux
System
i686, 2.6.20-16-lowlatency
Qt library
3.3.7
Java
Java Runtime Environment installed

somairotevoli 4. September 2007, 08:53

gaild82, there is now an inline spell checker!

gaild82 4. September 2007, 08:57

somairotevoli, Kestrel has an inline spell checker? What? Where?

Saddle Magic 4. September 2007, 08:57

No Classic Installer for Windows? :insane:

Wait!! There it is, referenced on the changelog page.

padule 4. September 2007, 09:00

and that "CENSORED" thing that we've seen in the screenshots? there is nothing there...

somairotevoli 4. September 2007, 09:01

From change log
"Spelling check now works in single-line inputs, too" is that the same as in-line? lol

Ok no inline spell check......but the single-line spell check is what I was wanting:)

hilmar 4. September 2007, 09:03

Uhh i got one 'bug' in the bug report page.. i can not select 9.5 since it aint in the pulldown list.

bug i wanted to report is that a page with lots of png's does get sometimes displayed with tiny images.

further more, Yes i do find it overal faster, but i have also the feeling that images are displayed slower then 9.23

Ognjen 4. September 2007, 09:04

"Simplified Download dialog"

there is no exact file size (in bytes) in new download dialog :frown:
please bring it back

towolf 4. September 2007, 09:05

I see no useage of Qt4 either. Ungood.

Tommy A. Olsen 4. September 2007, 09:06

@arghwashier: We have just one QT4 build, it is the files with ".9-static-qt.i386" in their name.

amolsurati 4. September 2007, 09:08

Thanks for Kestrel... It really is faster than any of its previous versions...

The mouse wheel scrolling has become smoother... the scrolling does not stop as soon as the mouse wheel is let go of... the scrolling decelerates slowly and comes to a halt... much like a car smoothly stopping... nice. :cool:

One feature that I miss is the "remember tabs" - Opera remembers the tabs that were open when the opera closed/crashed. It seems the feature is not enabled by default. Is there a way to enable it? One of the worst fears - is it removed? :worried:

Michael Watkins 4. September 2007, 09:09

Fantastic well done, Opera 9.5a is great! Loving the new history search and the immense speed. :yes:

chesss 4. September 2007, 09:10

No longer attempt to follow automatic redirects when navigating in history

Thanks! and hoping for more work-offline improvements..

lamarca 4. September 2007, 09:10

opera crashes when i try joining irc.

Stifu 4. September 2007, 09:10

This is from the comments of the previous news:

Originally posted by Fyrd:

Could you tell me if the following page:
http://files.myopera.com/Fyrd/mb/svgmultiple.html

Generates this:
http://files.myopera.com/Fyrd/mb/output.png

in Kestrel?


It looks like it only works partially for now (the horizontal borders are missing, but the corners are there). It'll most likely be fixed for the final version...

下雨天 4. September 2007, 09:10

下载试用~

arghwashier 4. September 2007, 09:10

Hi toman,

will there be a future Qt 4 shared build? Or a way for the static build to pick up on (gtk) themes?

David Bird 4. September 2007, 09:13

*sniff*

It's beautiful.

Phạm Nguyễn Trường An 4. September 2007, 09:13

There are too many known problems, but I still can't help installing it :wink:

Ognjen 4. September 2007, 09:13

Originally posted by "amolsurati":

The mouse wheel scrolling has become smoother... the scrolling does not stop as soon as the mouse wheel is let go of... the scrolling decelerates slowly and comes to a halt... much like a car smoothly stopping... nice.


i don't like this new behavior. it is slower and very annoying.

Topi 4. September 2007, 09:14

Yay finally \o/

This javascript speed test get lower score with 9.5:
http://celtickane.com/projects/jsspeed.php

... Why?

towolf 4. September 2007, 09:15

@toman: Qt4 only in a static build kind of defeats the pupose.

t 4. September 2007, 09:16

It doesn't whiten when the contents block is used on the page divided with the frame.

osi 4. September 2007, 09:16

Great and very (!) fast. I like the synchronisation feature.

What about synchronizing notes and contacts?

Gábor Lehel 4. September 2007, 09:17

Woohoo. Is there any substantial difference between the Qt3 and Qt4 versions? Which one do you guys recommend?

edit -- also, build jumping from 660 to 1567 is pretty ridic :D
edit again -- including notes in the myopera syncing would be really, really cool

Stifu 4. September 2007, 09:17

Originally posted by MrFukov:

This javascript speed test get lower score with 9.5:
http://celtickane.com/projects/jsspeed.php

... Why?


I tried that test earlier, and 9.5a wasn't slower than 9.23, but just as fast. Don't fire it once only, but several times...

Data Keeper 4. September 2007, 09:19

Good job,
but hot to enable Drag & Drop from address bar to other panels (except personal bar - its work there)?

Martin Evans 4. September 2007, 09:21

Well i dont know what to say.... WoW just doesnt do it justice!!!!

Kestrel is def stupidly fast.... i cant get over this is a alpha yet seems really stable and doesnt really have that many quirks either...

Amazing work guys and def worth the wait.. you all deserve a big pat on the back for this one :D

-( + )- 4. September 2007, 09:22

I cant use 9.5 under MacOS (10.3.9). Contents of Windows (Preferences, Browser, Appearance) are not displayed. Only if I minimized it into the Dock. :cry:

hrshukla 4. September 2007, 09:23

Neat.. Way faster than any of the previous versions, is all I can say, on OSX. Thats my first impression, at least.

krrm 4. September 2007, 09:28

:frown: A sad story:

bagheera:~ # rpm -U /home/kaare/opera-9.50-20070903.2-shared-qt.x86_64.rpm

Great expectations, but then:
kaare@bagheera:~> opera
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
Segmentation fault

World falls apart.

kaare@bagheera:~> opera -version
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
Opera 9.50 Alpha. Build 1567 for Linux. Qt library 3.3.7.

So now I'm back on 9.23.

kaare@bagheera:~> cat /proc/version
Linux version 2.6.18.8-0.5-default (geeko@buildhost) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (SUSE Linux)) #1 SMP Fri Jun 22 12:17:53 UTC 2007

(OpenSuse 10.2 X86-64)


Northgrove 4. September 2007, 09:28

please, add synchronization preferences opera


It would maybe help them more in knowing what part you want to configure. :smile: You can already set what parts to synchronize -- what else did you need?

jkff 4. September 2007, 09:30

It is blazingly fast and the history search is really really cool, but I found two very annoying bugs:
- "Save as" dialog does not remember previous location
- Context menu in transfers tab does not have windows shell commands, for instance "Enqueue in WinAmp" for music files or "Edit with Vim" for essentially anything textful, which are about 70% of my actions with downloaded files.

AudioRob 4. September 2007, 09:31

AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My bookmarks are gone. Os X, how do I get them back?

this is absolutely not kosher :frown:

Topi 4. September 2007, 09:32

Originally posted by Captain Stifu:

I tried that test earlier, and 9.5a wasn't slower than 9.23, but just as fast. Don't fire it once only, but several times...



Is 10 times enough?

9.23 with 10 tabs, 20+ RSS and thousands of mails... 600-800 ms
9.5 with one tab and nothing else... 900-1200 ms

Or am I optimized my 9.23 so much? :confused:

Jack Malmostoso 4. September 2007, 09:32

Ah, I guess it was a problem with the "minimalistic native" skin. Now with "windows native" the buttons are there again.

I'll report it to the skin creator. Thanks!

Stifu 4. September 2007, 09:34

AudioRob: did you somehow miss the fact dozens of people here advised to do a separate install ?

MrFukov: I get 390ms on average with both (Vista, 32-bit, 1GB RAM).

malsumis 4. September 2007, 09:34

is there a torrent, because the download server is completely hammered :D

closet geek 4. September 2007, 09:36

Address bar URL's now ordered by popularity - THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

MossMan 4. September 2007, 09:36

It's currently reindexing 180000 mail messages... ha ha ha!

But I was also a bit surprised that install-over wiped a LOT of settings. Suppose that's why they said not to do it this time. :wink:

Hopefully I did things properly during installation and can still use O9.23 with the "old profile".

Ognjen 4. September 2007, 09:38

why is there opera icon in tray?
i dont use mail client

PATRICE 4. September 2007, 09:39

ok , j'attendrai la version francaise merci , sinon je vai my perdre , c tropt serieux pour faire n'importe quoi sur le net , bye , quand la version francaise sera disponible ??? merci !!:confused:

Rongar 4. September 2007, 09:40

Great Work! It feels very nice so far. And it's just the first alpha!

AudioRob 4. September 2007, 09:40

Yes I did miss the fact! I was given a direct link to the dmg.

You should not expect everyone to find the information on the webpge, or to read the comments (or even know the exist at first).

all my cookies, bookmarks, emails etc.. are gone.


Nothing I use seems to be working properly...

I cant drag website icons to the toolbar to make a quick link
turning off history doesnt work
speed dial is resetting itself to nothing everytime I open opera
Chat (irc) is extremely buggy, display bugs, issues logging onto servers
the skin is very buggy, lots of inconsistant lining of graphical elements
quite a few webpages are not rendering properly
scrolling is very choppy

This is a total disaster :frown: I just want my bookmarks/email/etc.. back and a working opera :frown:

somairotevoli 4. September 2007, 09:42

^it's an ALPHA release, there isn't a need to read the warnings, etc...



Sites with flash now cause very high cpu usage:(

linux, shared qt

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