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Go and get Opera 9.5 alpha!

By Huib Kleinhouthuibk. Tuesday, September 4, 2007 6:40:32 AM

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Fasten your seatbelts, and get ready to test drive Kestrel yourself. After more than a year of development, we invite you to test Opera 9.5 alpha and tell us what you think about it.
In short, Opera 9.5 alpha is:
  • Performance
  • Full history search
  • Improved site compatibility
  • Access for everyone
  • Improved platform integration
  • Preview of bookmark and Speed Dial synchronization
  • Magic Windows build number jester
And much more! Take a look at the huge changelogs faint to see what is new:
Windows
Mac
UNIX

Don't forget to report bugs, but check the Known Issues list in the changelogs and discuss them in the Beta Testing forum, in the opera.beta newsgroup, or in #weekly first.

And now: go and get it! cheers We recommend that you make a clean install and copy over your profile data (but not your preferences file) if you'd like to test the upgrade procedure. You may not be able to downgrade if you upgrade an existing install!

Stay tuned for more updates and builds on the Desktop Team blog.

Download:
Opera 9.5 alpha for Windows
Opera 9.5 alpha for Mac
Opera 9.5 alpha for Unix

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Comments

Novindu Thursday, September 6, 2007 1:48:43 PM

guys text box enter wont work in some sites... specially in proxy sites

berend ytsmaytsmabeer Thursday, September 6, 2007 1:51:58 PM

@DoubleT:the plugin-ignore.ini file works fine here.
You know that it's allready there in the default dir?

I put this line in
npdsplay.dll = ha it's me

It now ignores the windows media plugin

Benjaminvivabrevis Thursday, September 6, 2007 1:56:38 PM

unbelievable stable and fast for an alpha!!!
Great Work.

kiaM Thursday, September 6, 2007 2:00:48 PM

Thanks, Opera Desktop Team. You did a great job. I use this Alpha 8+ hours a day, and it is pretty stable...

pnppc Thursday, September 6, 2007 2:05:06 PM

I LOVE THIS! Finally Opera on my B&W old school mac launches as fast as Safari!
And the rendering speed is awesome. I am telling everyone about this.
I service PCs for a living. Does Opera have a partner program where I can install Opera on my customer machines?
Also
How do I import settings from 9.23 into 9.5?(i.e. book marks mainly)
?
Cant wait for Beta and Final! Keep up the great work guys!

AlterMann Thursday, September 6, 2007 2:22:05 PM

"Auto-scroll icon now appears where clicked instead of centered on the page"

Great! smile

Andresandresruiz Thursday, September 6, 2007 2:28:29 PM

Saving files...Opera 9.5 doesn't remember the last download location. You always have to select folders again and again.

Michael A. Puls IIburnout426 Thursday, September 6, 2007 2:31:34 PM

@ DoubleT
For a standard install location:

Edit "c:\program files\opera\defaults\plugin-ignore.ini"
Add each dll you want to block on a separate line and restart Opera.

For example:

npdsplay.dll
NPSWF32.dll
npwmsdrm.dll
npdsplay.dll
npwmsdrm.dll
np-mswmp.dll
np32dsw.dll
npdivx32.dll
npDivxPlayerPlugin.dll
npnul32.dll
nppl3260.dll
nprjplug.dll
nprpjplug.dll
npqtplugin.dll
npqtplugin2.dll
npqtplugin3.dll
npqtplugin4.dll
npqtplugin5.dll
npqtplugin6.dll
npqtplugin7.dll
nppl3260.dll
nprjplug.dll
nprpjplug.dll
nprhapengine.dll
npvlc.dll
NPXStandard.dll

That works fine for me. plugin-ignore blocks any detected plugin I want no matter if Opera detects them from the registry or the current Plugin Path entry. After doing this, opera:plugins is completely empty.

Merlin had a problem with this, but it works fine in Kestrel for me.

lamarca lamarca Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:00:24 PM

andresruiz, check this

Gölök Zoltán Leenderdt Franco BudayOrff Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:17:32 PM

What happened to my skin?
Alot is worse, have the widgets become .wgt or .wget or .wdgt?
I wonder if Opera needs it's own packager program for widgets, especially if you have a
lot of zips. I like a different Widget extention for a personal server type thing.
I can't see the tab buttons. Some unstable logins like with textiles and of course boisebathrooms.com/larry?gloryholecams
Still, if you wand my.opera.com/Orff it doesn't mean it works on this one or framed ones like www.opera.itemshop.org/dtt.shtml
Some LD or Dyslexia friendly things couldn't hurt, or Epilepsy based; nothing to to level of making things Oval Office Friendly. A learning dysfunction like that will never be helped.
Why is .url not on the file list of default browser options. It's certainly not a stable browser in crash matters anyway.

ColKilkenny Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:25:34 PM

Can someone confirm this.
When there is no open tabs (allow windows without tabs must be on) the transfer panel isn't working as it should. The right click menu (try to click on any downloaded file) is not working at all.
When there's at least one tab the right click menu is working normally.

This happens at least on linux with shared build.

Luis Carlos Carvalhozipatei Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:31:01 PM

Opera Mail would have of being improved. When an email is considered Spam, deveriamos to have an option to choose that the email received in Spam automatically was removed. Another fact is of email's Spam does not deveriamos to receive indication from received email. He is annoying to be always to receive the indication from received email when it is an email Spam.
Another fact is that in one it marries exists you vary people. Father, Mother and children. Each one has an email. Soon, when it intended to see email's, with one codigo only could see definitive account of email.

Another suggestion of security will be the word master. When Opera asked for to the word master, would have to include to screensaver for backwards of this order of codigo. Because for example, an user was to sail in a site with its personal datas or confidential information. E has to leave for a moment the computer and is forgotten the open window. In case that Opera does not introduce to screensaver for tras of this order of word master, a person who is for close, can visualize these data. E screensaver, would cover the information until the user to introduce the word master, thus protecting the information.
The eyeglasses with the option “to see” in the bar of research would have to continue in the new Opera.

These are my suggestions for the new Operate. Of remaining portion the new Opera is spectacular. Each faster time!

DoubleT Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:49:42 PM

Originally posted by ytsmabeer:

You know that it's allready there in the default dir?


AAARHG! faint
How should i know that operadef6.ini points me to the wrong location? But I am sure, i shouldn't change Opera defaults. Seems to be a bug.

Thanks! @ytsmabeer, @burnout426

Now i can ignore them in general, but I can't differ between two versions of a plugin for testing them. E.g.:
Opera 9.23 (stable) + Flash 9.0.47.0 (stable)
Opera 9.50 (alfa) + Flash 9.0.60.184 (beta)

opera: plugins
...
C:\Stuff\Opera95\Program\Plugins\NPSWF32.dll
...
C:\Program Files\Opera90\Program\Plugins\NPSWF32.dll
...
C:\WINNT\system32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll
...

And how is the internal order of Opera? This seems very conflict susceptible.

Eric Bladeeblade Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:56:06 PM

I have been having a lot of problems with comic strip sites, where it will only load a quarter or half of an image sad have been reporting them..

The fact that Ctrl-Alt+LeftMouse+Drag = same as MiddleMouse+Drag really screws up one of my UserJS's.


Holy cow, the Wand works right on Fark.Com now!! YAY!

pgweiss Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:15:33 PM

I've noticed that when opera (in 32 bit Linux) appears to hang during email processing, it is frantically reading omailbase.dat, which on my system is about 50Mb. Is there some practical limit that I'm exceeding?

Michael ThompsonMichael83815 Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:38:37 PM

Tried pulling some emails from my pop-server, it deleted the emails but did not download them. Ouch!

[edit] - all my emails are now missing over 1000 of them. I looked in the 'store' folder and they are their just not showing up.

Vecanti Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:56:51 PM

Just using Opera 9.5 exculisivy now I think it's that stable!! smile

2 minor issues here on XP. Ctrl F5 to "refresh all tabs" was gone from 9.5, but I just added it myself to the keyboard commands so it works again.

The other issue is it seems like 9.5 stops the scroll wheel from working on heavy flash sites while they load. Like http://www.imeem.com when you are searching for a song and it's loading the page, you can't scroll with the wheel only the bar on the side.

illiad Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:57:57 PM

has no-one yet found how to 'make your own' view bar?? - I am sure you do not use *every one*!!
if you don't use the 'Navigation Toolbar' then use 9.23 to copy over the buttons from the view bar, then add this code to toolbar.ini using a text editor...

Button0, -1466343430="Set alignment, "Site Navigation Toolbar", 6, , "View" | Set alignment, "Site Navigation Toolbar", , , "View""

this can be created by 'customise' in 9.23, and the 'view' button moved to another place..
then the text 'Document View Toolbar' changed to 'Site Navigation Toolbar'... smile

look in the 'buttons' section for many other buttons you can use on their own...

Eric Bladeeblade Thursday, September 6, 2007 5:04:36 PM

My Speed Dial thumbnails are often appearing blank.

Having to add the "Fit to Width" button to the toolbar at the bottom kind of annoyed me. I don't have a button for the Usermode/Author mode toggle, which will annoy me when I visit Myspace. sad

Michael A. Puls IIburnout426 Thursday, September 6, 2007 5:12:03 PM

Originally posted by DoubleT


Now i can ignore them in general, but I can't differ between two versions of a plugin for testing them. E.g.:
Opera 9.23 (stable) + Flash 9.0.47.0 (stable)
Opera 9.50 (alfa) + Flash 9.0.60.184 (beta)



That's something that will have to be improved. For example, if Opera detects multiple instances of a plugin and lists each one under "use plugin" for application/x-shockwave-flash, you can choose which one you want to use. Problem is, the dropdown doesn't give enough information so that you can easily distinguish which version you're selecting.

In the case of flash though, you can use http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ to see which version you currently have active in Opera.

Another thing you can do is rename the flash 9.0.60.184 dll to npswf32beta.dll and just block npswf32.dll in plugin-ignore or vice versa. As a bonus of renaming each instance of the dll that's detected, you can figure out which one Opera's finding first.

Michael ThompsonMichael83815 Thursday, September 6, 2007 5:21:24 PM

Opera says I have 135 Feeds But I only have 4.

Feeds(135)

MartinezZ Thursday, September 6, 2007 5:40:09 PM

@Rijk

I'm sorry.

Tabs - it is problem with Shadowguard skin for 9.2x version (sorry)

Marguee - http://gamupa.unas.cz/opera/marquee.html - try it on 9.2x and 9.5

Michael A. Puls IIburnout426 Thursday, September 6, 2007 6:12:08 PM

Marguee - http://gamupa.unas.cz/opera/marquee.html - try it on 9.2x and 9.5



Direction attribute is ignored by Opera it seems.

illiad Thursday, September 6, 2007 6:21:49 PM

eblade: look in 'appearance, buttons, browser view'...

also it may be worth just saving the 'keyboard.ini' from 9.23 and using that on 9.5...

does anyone see any problems with doing this??

lmjabreu Thursday, September 6, 2007 7:00:21 PM

"Google Reader did an update today, and now it doesn't seem to work at all in neither 9.23 nor 9.5. All I get is the top Google menu bar."

confirm this. Gmail has a rendering error on the quick contacts list.

Kyle Bakerkyleabaker Thursday, September 6, 2007 7:14:19 PM

Imjabreu: confirmed.

Luchio Thursday, September 6, 2007 7:16:14 PM

@illiad, about keeping keyboard.ini from 9.23:

There's no problem doing that unless they introduced new keys in 9.5, in which case you would not have those new keys. Since they only seem to have moved keys around without adding new ones, I don't think you'll miss anything.

Rijk Thursday, September 6, 2007 7:24:20 PM

@burnout426: I usually just right-click on Flash to see the version number. But in practice I don't have Flash in many locations, precisely because Opera picks it up from elsewhere so it doesn't need a copy. That's good for security, less chance of keeping outdated versions around. I've deleted a lot of old plugins BTW, no need to keep them in Opera's plugin directory when they are picked up from the original location (Abobe Reader, QuickTime, Java).

Luis Carlos Carvalhozipatei Thursday, September 6, 2007 7:39:51 PM

Edited by moderator. Please refrain from reposting the same thing over and over again.

KatanaDV20 Thursday, September 6, 2007 8:09:50 PM

Looking forward to checking this out. Opera is the best browser in the UNIVERSE! Thank you Opera Team!!!! smile

Steve DarkenDarken Thursday, September 6, 2007 8:14:57 PM

Unobtrusive Flash Objects (UFO) v3.22 is broken with Kestrel branch but work fine with Merlin branch...

> http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/ufo/

Andresandresruiz Thursday, September 6, 2007 8:15:04 PM

@lamarca
Tks, I understand, this is an Alpha smile .Opera 9.23 always remember my last download location...Say I want to save the gif you use as personal image, so I [right click] on the image, then [Save image...] and I select a folder on my pc. ej: C:\....\gifs\ and click [save]. Next time I select an image and click on [Save image...] Opera should show me "C:\....\gifs\" as first option because it was the last folder where I saved something. In Opera 9.23 it works . But Opera 9.5 always sets "My Documents" as default download place, no matter I've saved files in other folders before.

The other problem is that Opera 9.5 opens the Transfers Tab each time you save something as the last example...that's annoying. Opera 9.23 just saves it. No more. Cool !! Like IE and FF and Safari, etc...

Am sure Devs will fix it soon.
I mentioned too that using a web based e-mail. Each time you download a .pps or .wav or what ever. Opera 9.5 saves it as .aspx
SO there's a problem with extenssions...If I remember well, is a Known Issue.

Martinmax17 Thursday, September 6, 2007 8:20:01 PM

when new weekly build?

Tim AltmanJunyor Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:01:27 PM

@max17: Please see http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2007/08/25/the-road-ahead . We won't necessarily have a build every week (and we may be changing the name, since "weekly" doesn't fit). We also will not be telling y'all when to expect the next build.

Kyle Bakerkyleabaker Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:46:07 PM

another example of the annoying redrawing bug..
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5044/operaredrawbugsw0.png
..scrolling through source code is what caused this in the screenshot.

Cyro Thursday, September 6, 2007 10:06:34 PM

I agree with Junyor.
Let's not rush the devs since Kestrel was proven not to be "Duke Nukem Forever".

DoubleT Thursday, September 6, 2007 10:31:01 PM

Is this a (known) bug or a feature?
If i open a session and close this session (file->exit), all instances of Opera are closed.

Btw, is there an option/way to open a session, without open a new window? I want only load all tabs into the existing instance.

berend ytsmaytsmabeer Thursday, September 6, 2007 10:33:57 PM

@DoubleT:I don't use sessions but in the manage sessions i've got an option "Opera tabs in current window" does that do the trick?

DoubleT Thursday, September 6, 2007 10:44:03 PM

@ytsmabeer: Hm, works only with the manager. sad

James Cassellelitegeek Friday, September 7, 2007 1:10:46 AM

I haven't read through all of the comments, but there seems to be a but that is quite annoying to me:

In Opera, I often use keyboard navigation (using the one-key shortcuts). I will press comma (,) to search for links. I will then type the first part of the link name, and press enter. In 9.23, this would activate the link and I would go to the page. In the 9.5 alpha, It seems to only activate the link sometimes, and most of the time, it doesn't.

Anyway, I love the mail improvements and many of the other improvements that have been made. (Also, thanks for recognizing the mail already in the sent folder as sent for IMAP accounts)

fengshi11 Friday, September 7, 2007 5:14:32 AM

So great ,and faster!!Waiting for the beta!!!!

Kyle Bakerkyleabaker Friday, September 7, 2007 5:32:16 AM

Looks like Google partially fixed Google Reader since it was not working at all in Opera for a day. Just thought I'd let you all know since I saw atleast one post mention this in here. It wasn't just a Kestrel issue, just so you know. Opera 9.23 didn't work either. Looks like they may have it completely straightened out very shortly.

freekey Friday, September 7, 2007 6:32:09 AM

Yeay!!!

I really need the VIEW BARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Huh..

operic Friday, September 7, 2007 7:41:37 AM

I don't see FLASH animation when I click 'Product Selector' on this page: http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/production/

confirmations?

FrakkiaLP Friday, September 7, 2007 7:44:36 AM

@operic. I see that.

Aletta Mesalettames Friday, September 7, 2007 8:12:29 AM

Right clicks outside textareas in forms cause crashes and many logins like with fatcow hosting (like refreshiing cache) and bidvertiser in XPHmSP2 in particular. Page redraw issue perhaaps. Systray stuck.

Aletta Mesalettames Friday, September 7, 2007 8:38:28 AM

(Win98SE, happens in XP) Crash notice when right clicking over non-text areas:

OPERA caused an invalid page fault in
module OPERA.DLL at 017f:67e35ba6.
Registers:
EAX=01671f24 CS=017f EIP=67e35ba6 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=004d002d SS=0187 ESP=0065d280 EBP=0065d29c
ECX=004b008c DS=0187 ESI=01f8d35c FS=3fe7
EDX=006c0065 ES=0187 EDI=0000000f GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
89 5a 04 8b 55 0c 8b 5a 04 8b 52 08 89 53 08 89
Stack dump:
00000024 01f8d360 01f8d360 01673ea4 004b005c 00000010 00000030 0065d2d8 67e2d9a1 01628d0c 01f8d38c 8a21c8d2 01f8d360 01f88610 00000024 01628d0c

berend ytsmaytsmabeer Friday, September 7, 2007 8:45:55 AM

@alettames:
please read this stuff about reporting crash bug to Opera
http://www.opera.com/support/search/view/790/

Aletta Mesalettames Friday, September 7, 2007 9:26:43 AM

OPERA caused an invalid page fault in
module OPERA.DLL at 017f:67e35ba6.
Registers:
EAX=0162ddb0 CS=017f EIP=67e35ba6 EFLGS=00010206
EBX=00570000 SS=0187 ESP=0065edf8 EBP=0065ee14
ECX=0000003a DS=0187 ESI=01f059ec FS=3c1f
EDX=005c0053 ES=0187 EDI=0000001e GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
89 5a 04 8b 55 0c 8b 5a 04 8b 52 08 89 53 08 89
Stack dump:
00000000 01f059f2 01f059f0 01631b6c 0000002a 00000030 00000010 0065ee50 67e2d9a1 00e90098 01f059fc 451acdbe 01f059f2 01f06130 00000000 00e90098

Autodownload scripts: http://www.ccleaner.com/download/downloading-beta
Maybe the download link: http://download.piriform.com/ccsetup200.exe

Martinkomodo666 Friday, September 7, 2007 9:32:35 AM

http://www.mapy.cz/
Does not work properly. See how it look in 9.23 or other browsers.
Thanx

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