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We will rock you: 9.5 beta coming!

By Huib Kleinhouthuibk. Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:53:00 AM

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Thursday next week (25 Oct), Opera 9.5 beta will be released. bigsmile The release
will be celebrated at the Rock Opera party in San Francisco. party jester drunk The
party will feature live performances of the bands The 88 and The Binges, and a couple of other exciting things will be announced
there.

Of course, you are all invited. Just answer the questions in the quiz
and get your invitation. If you join the party, don't forget to
bring your mobile phone, you might want to have it there. And don't worry
- no one from the Desktop Team is going to sing zip. If you can't make
it to California, just join the online celebrations!

New snapshot build
To warm up for the party, here's a new snapshot build. Happy bug hunting, don't forget to join the party and check out this blog for more news!

Changes and fixes
  • Rewritten backend for bookmark synchronization. Fixes several bugs
  • Cosmetic changes in synchronization user interface, new icon
  • Reloading widgets works
  • Fixed leak in search engine
  • Fixed printing crash
  • Fixed a margin collapsing regression
  • Fixed bug where Redirected e-mails displayed incorrectly in Sent view
  • Fixed crash when importing default browser bookmarks on first run
  • Fixed crashes when image with svg source is a sibling of a float
  • Fixed several layout issues
  • Several stability fixes added

Known issues fixed
  • [BUG 264975] Fixed display of smileys in mail and chat
  • [BUG 290358] Bookmarks cannot be selected from the Bookmarks menu
  • [BUG 290355] Opera crashes when clicking bookmarks in Personal bar
  • [BUG 280536] Opera on OS X will sometimes freeze when exiting Preferences

Known issues
  • [BUG 291258] Framesets don't work. Gives blank page on Gmail and other sites
  • [BUG 291335] Bookmarks in sub-folders are moved to the root folder
  • [BUG 290618] Viewing messages with smilies in Opera Mail may cause Opera to crash
  • [BUG 291267] Filters in M2 don't work
  • [BUG 290416] Widgets don't work after restarting Opera
  • [BUG 267632] Images don't display when printing
  • If you used the Brushed Metal skin in the previous release, Opera for OS X will crash on startup
  • [BUG 290943] This build fails the Acid2 test
  • Won't run correctly on Windows 95 or 98
  • OS X version may cause persistent freezes on start-up
  • POP server cleaning has been disabled: When disabling the "Leave messages on server" option, existing messages on the server are not removed
  • [BUG 287170] On OS X, UI thumbnails have black backgrounds when using native skins
  • [BUG 184894] Native OS X UI elements cannot be used in skins
  • [BUG 286384] Yahoo mail is broken
  • [BUG 280261] Removing messages from filters does not work
  • [BUG 213115] Queued mail is sent at the next check, instead of waiting for manual action

Download
Warning: These are snapshot builds; they contain the latests features and changes, but they also have known bugs, may crash regularly, destroy your data or don't work at all for you.
Windows
Windows Classic
Macintosh
UNIX

9.24A Snapshot a Day Keeps the Bugs Away

Comments

Tamil Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:05:34 PM

party

Bookmarks in folders and sub folders are moved to root. Can anyone confirm?

Remco Lantingremcolanting Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:06:37 PM

party

neoscorp Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:12:03 PM

Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vasil Rangelovboenrobot Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:30:15 PM

Still fails the Acid2 test though. What gives?

olli Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:30:48 PM

boen_robot: Boog

Elek Mártatusi74 Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:30:59 PM

Thanks! I am very happy, that the personal bar operates again. But I am waiting for fixing the crashing when downloading of images.

MetalRaise Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:38:41 PM

Can someone check if www.orf.at works? Build 9600 is just displaying a white, blank page, but it works perfectly with v9.24.

Tuttle Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:40:21 PM

I noticed when you right click on selected hyperlink text you can no more "search with" or "go to web address".

Edit: I had extra bookmarks (doubloons), so I removed opera profile and reinstall opera and things re-synchronize correctly from "Opera synchronize".

With any of your update, I have the default opera bookmarks appearing too, Amazon.com and others.

Thanx for maintening Opera for Desktop, I hope a mouse and keyboard shortcut synchronize too, as I use opera in many Os and computers.

berend ytsmaytsmabeer Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:42:48 PM

@MetalRaise: it works with a frameset which doesn't work in this build. see the known issues smile

So remember all if a page is totally "white" it's probably the frameset known issue

lamarca lamarca Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:43:06 PM

thanks for another new test buid.

MetalRaise Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:45:59 PM

@ ytsmabeer:

Ah, stupid me. I did read the known issues but I didn't realize that www.orf.at is using a frameset. whistle

Thanks. smile

David Bloomdbloom Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:49:33 PM

Just a headsup folks: Framesets only appear to be broken on the Windows builds. GMail seems to work fine on the OS X and Linux builds.

Geoff GerlachHillbilly Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:49:42 PM

Maybe a regression
http://www.sillanumsoft.com/
has always displayed properly until this build.
And yes Tamil I can confirm bookmarks are moved especially those in my 'Bookmarks' folder but not the other folders containing other bookmarks

quarkdrunkensurgeon Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:51:50 PM

No Gmail = No Opera smile
I'll skip this build...

Bill PBill_P Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:53:43 PM

@Tamil
confirm "Bookmarks in folders and sub folders are moved to root"

Investor Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:56:39 PM

crash... when trying to remove a button from viewbar /startbar (customization)

" Opera.exe 9600 (Alpha) caused exception C0000005 at address 67DA8580 (Base: 400000)"


AyushAyushJ Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:58:17 PM

party

MetalRaise Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:59:33 PM

@ Investor:

I can't reproduce that. I changed quite a lot buttons and toolbars like I always do with a fresh alpha build, and everything works here.

Bill PBill_P Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:02:40 PM

Mail disappears once again if I downgrade to a previous version from the latest build. Mail still exists but Opera does not display it.
- Is there a fix? Some might consider this a critical problem

Bookmarks messed up when downgrading from this build, all folders seem to be permently moved to root (i.e. there are no longer such a concept as sub-folders)





Alexis DeveriaFyrd Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:04:54 PM

Framesets don't work? Ouch! I know frames are evil, but damn... wink

Thanks for new build!

t1gershark Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:05:52 PM

Can anyone confirm headline problems with
www.heise.de ?

But thanks again for this build, looking forward for
the beta release.

Vladimir PanteleevThe_CyberShadow Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:08:20 PM

Can someone please tell me where do I report bugs in alphas/betas??

Rijk Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:09:04 PM

Originally posted by Bill_P:

Mail disappears once again if I downgrade to a previous version from the latest build. Mail still exists but Opera does not display it.- Is there a fix? Some might consider this a critical problem



We can't fix that older build... It is a big nuisance for you testers if you relied on 9.5 for your mail (which you really really shouldn't do with alpha/snapshot builds). But for Opera 9.2 > 9.5 upgraders this will not be an issue, since they will need to confirm an update of their mail database anyway. So I doubt we'll do anything about it.

kiaM Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:09:55 PM

@t1gershark: confirmed.

Investor Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:10:06 PM

www.heise.de... confirmed

Regression :Copy to note not working ???

Edit: well copy to note, when a link, still doesn't work. And otherwise the copied stuff is copied to note folder marked, instead of simply creating a new note (change in behaviour ?)

Tuttle Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:11:57 PM

I confirm heise.de and gmail.com (you should disable javascript in script preference and chosse basic HTML view for gmail; it still works with ssl, for us using uncrypted wifi)

Rijk Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:12:31 PM

Originally posted by The_CyberShadow:

Can someone please tell me where do I report bugs in alphas/betas??



At https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/

It is a good idea to first look for earlier reports in the Desktopteam blog comments and the Beta testing forum. Especially if issues seem to be obvious, we probably already know about it.

DandsDandS Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:16:52 PM

No GMail support on this build sounds very bad for me...I will skip it too. =/

joshas Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:18:40 PM

Nice, but I'll wait for Beta release.

Bill PBill_P Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:24:47 PM

@Rijk - the mail disappearing with downgrades should be on the known issues list with CAPITAL LETTERS, I backup everything nightly because of the weekly's but not all be do and they should be forewarened.

Rijk Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:34:09 PM

Bookmarks-from-subfolder-to-root is bug 291335

Romanfeil0ng Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:34:20 PM

This and the two previous builds crash by submitting on this search:
Link
- Type somthing in the field "Ort"
- Press "Suche"
=> crash
Build: 1633 (and before)
System: x86_64, 2.6.22.9-amd64
Qt library 3.3.7

seems to work fine on vista64

+ heise.de confirmed

ps: how do i get opera to work with java 64bit?
It says path is valid ... but that's all

Wade Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:51:29 PM

Unix build: Flash 9.0r64 is not working at all. Also can anyone confirm right click “search” not working without first selecting “search with” and changing search engine?

Wladimiruntitled1 Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:54:25 PM

can confirm the problem with heise.de headlines (linux 64bit & linux 32bit & windows)

chokes Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:56:36 PM

The start bar Disapered in this build what's going on?

Wladimiruntitled1 Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:02:11 PM

i am developing some pages in php and noticed such a problem with opera, in other browsers it is working:

i made a script which changes the headers, so the file becomes downloadable (i had to make an export in csv format), here my code:

header( "Content-Type: text/comma-separated-values;" );
header( "Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64;" );
header( "Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=\"PM_.csv\"" );

but in opera when clicking on the corresponding link, the download dialog appears but it has the name of the script inside and not the name i gave in the Content-Disposition-header! so in my case opera suggests to save the file as "export.php" and not as "PM_.csv".

i have noticed this behavior on other sites, too...

anyone can confirm?


blackrave Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:07:18 PM

I assume this build includes the security fixes implemented in the new 9.24 build as well, if needed?

Thanks for your work. Looking very much forward to the beta build. smile

Romain Vigier Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:11:51 PM

Framesets work with MacOS (10.4). Only a few bookmarks are moved to root (4 out of about 40).

Honestly, I think that the new icon for bookmarks synchronization is even more intrusive than the other... And by disabling, it should totally disappear instead of displaying a big gray icon and a text... In my opinion, there should be no text at all and only a small icon (this one is good, but with transparent background and lighter green arrows) with a tooltip on hover, instead of icon + login name (who needs it?) + status (already given by icon).

larskl Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:15:53 PM

@untitled1: known bug

Tim AltmanJunyor Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:16:59 PM

@untitled1: Known issue.

J.R. Raithjrronimo Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:27:22 PM

I can confirm -- folders in sub-folders moved to root.

I also still have bug #290474-s79. Using Inspectr does not give a crash report, either. sad

I think gmail is broken.

Wladimiruntitled1 Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:28:27 PM

ok, thank you, i thought maybe i made something wrong with the headers smile

another problem with current build (9600, winxp), (maybe also known, where can i see the known issues?):

on http://www.spiegel.de/videos/ (a favorite german news site) there are flash videos, the first one is starting fine. but when i switch to another one on the right side nothing happens... it definitely worked in 9.23. (flash player 9,0,47,0)

greets

adioni Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:29:50 PM

Spacer bug as demonstrated at http://download.remcol.ath.cx/kestrel/tc7/spacer.html is still not fixed

serdelllc1201298 Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:39:42 PM

I have problems with my Picasa Webalbums accounts

Tri M. NguyenTriMN Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:39:55 PM

I'm using the Mac build... Gmail seems to work fine smile

Hypezor Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:48:21 PM

Been using the .6 Unix build for a few minutes.
I'm really amazed by the speed of the rendering.
Smells like a good Beta bigsmile (no crashers, yet, w00t)

TaranQ Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:02:21 PM

No Gmail = incredible = also skipping this build ...

Lito Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:11:25 PM

I hope Yahoo Mail will work in the beta. I've been skipping builds since the first one awww.

rasenbaer Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:13:17 PM

I can't import personal certificate (.p12-format). Nothing happening so far. No questions asked :(
The same certificate works fine with 9.23.
I can though copy the file opcert6.dat from one preferences directory to the alpha prefs dir. After a rastart it's working fine.
Anybody else?

can confirm the heise bug. But it's only on the frontpage.
Using Mac build

Cryptobionika Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:24:24 PM

So the next week you'll fix that tone of "Known issues" already? Is it even possible to fix in a week? But I'd be very glad to finally try the beta. I don't try Alpha for one reason only - Mail is broken. If it'll be fixed in beta, it's gonne be awesome.

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