Opera Desktop Team

We will rock you: 9.5 beta coming!

By Huib Kleinhout. Wednesday, 17. October 2007, 11:53:00

gamma, snapshot, beta, alpha, rock, kestrel

Thursday next week (25 Oct), Opera 9.5 beta will be released.

The release
will be celebrated at the Rock Opera party in San Francisco.

The
party will feature live performances of the bands The 88 and The
Binges, and a couple of other exciting things will be announced
there.

Of course, you are all invited. Just answer the questions in the quiz
and get your invitation. If you join the party, don't forget to
bring your mobile phone, you might want to have it there. And don't worry
- no one from the Desktop Team is going to sing

. If you can't make
it to California, just join the online celebrations!

New snapshot build
To warm up for the party, here's a new snapshot build. Happy bug hunting, don't forget to join the party and check out this blog for more news!

Changes and fixes

Rewritten backend for bookmark synchronization. Fixes several bugs
Cosmetic changes in synchronization user interface, new icon
Reloading widgets works
Fixed leak in search engine
Fixed printing crash
Fixed a margin collapsing regression
Fixed bug where Redirected e-mails displayed incorrectly in Sent view
Fixed crash when importing default browser bookmarks on first run
Fixed crashes when image with svg source is a sibling of a float
Fixed several layout issues
Several stability fixes added

Known issues fixed

[BUG 264975] Fixed display of smileys in mail and chat
[BUG 290358] Bookmarks cannot be selected from the Bookmarks menu
[BUG 290355] Opera crashes when clicking bookmarks in Personal bar
[BUG 280536] Opera on OS X will sometimes freeze when exiting Preferences

Known issues

[BUG 291258] Framesets don't work. Gives blank page on Gmail and other sites
[BUG 291335] Bookmarks in sub-folders are moved to the root folder
[BUG 290618] Viewing messages with smilies in Opera Mail may cause Opera to crash
[BUG 291267] Filters in M2 don't work
[BUG 290416] Widgets don't work after restarting Opera
[BUG 267632] Images don't display when printing
If you used the Brushed Metal skin in the previous release, Opera for OS X will crash on startup
[BUG 290943] This build fails the Acid2 test
Won't run correctly on Windows 95 or 98
OS X version may cause persistent freezes on start-up
POP server cleaning has been disabled: When disabling the "Leave messages on server" option, existing messages on the server are not removed
[BUG 287170] On OS X, UI thumbnails have black backgrounds when using native skins
[BUG 184894] Native OS X UI elements cannot be used in skins
[BUG 286384] Yahoo mail is broken
[BUG 280261] Removing messages from filters does not work
[BUG 213115] Queued mail is sent at the next check, instead of waiting for manual action

Download
Warning: These are snapshot builds; they contain the latests features and changes, but they also have known bugs, may crash regularly, destroy your data or don't work at all for you.
Windows
Windows Classic
Macintosh
UNIX

Neat thumbnails, instant searching and more9.24

Comments

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Tamil # 17. October 2007, 12:05

Bookmarks in folders and sub folders are moved to root. Can anyone confirm?

remcolanting # 17. October 2007, 12:06

neoscorp # 17. October 2007, 12:12

Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uzm # 17. October 2007, 12:14

Thanks, guys.
D'oh, popups are still opening as a new full-width window. But well, nice bugfixes!

boenrobot # 17. October 2007, 12:30

Still fails the Acid2 test though. What gives?

olli # 17. October 2007, 12:30

boen_robot: Boog

tusi74 # 17. October 2007, 12:30

Thanks! I am very happy, that the personal bar operates again. But I am waiting for fixing the crashing when downloading of images.

MetalRaise # 17. October 2007, 12:38

Can someone check if www.orf.at works? Build 9600 is just displaying a white, blank page, but it works perfectly with v9.24.

Tuttle # 17. October 2007, 12:40

I noticed when you right click on selected hyperlink text you can no more "search with" or "go to web address".

Edit: I had extra bookmarks (doubloons), so I removed opera profile and reinstall opera and things re-synchronize correctly from "Opera synchronize".

With any of your update, I have the default opera bookmarks appearing too, Amazon.com and others.

Thanx for maintening Opera for Desktop, I hope a mouse and keyboard shortcut synchronize too, as I use opera in many Os and computers.

ytsmabeer # 17. October 2007, 12:42

@MetalRaise: it works with a frameset which doesn't work in this build. see the known issues

So remember all if a page is totally "white" it's probably the frameset known issue

lamarca # 17. October 2007, 12:43

thanks for another new test buid.

MetalRaise # 17. October 2007, 12:45

@ ytsmabeer:

Ah, stupid me. I did read the known issues but I didn't realize that www.orf.at is using a frameset.

Thanks.

dbloom # 17. October 2007, 12:49

Just a headsup folks: Framesets only appear to be broken on the Windows builds. GMail seems to work fine on the OS X and Linux builds.

Hillbilly # 17. October 2007, 12:49

Maybe a regression
http://www.sillanumsoft.com/
has always displayed properly until this build.
And yes Tamil I can confirm bookmarks are moved especially those in my 'Bookmarks' folder but not the other folders containing other bookmarks

drunkensurgeon # 17. October 2007, 12:51

No Gmail = No Opera

I'll skip this build...

Bill_P # 17. October 2007, 12:53

@Tamil
confirm "Bookmarks in folders and sub folders are moved to root"

Investor # 17. October 2007, 12:56

crash... when trying to remove a button from viewbar /startbar (customization)

" Opera.exe 9600 (Alpha) caused exception C0000005 at address 67DA8580 (Base: 400000)"

AyushJ # 17. October 2007, 12:58

MetalRaise # 17. October 2007, 12:59

@ Investor:

I can't reproduce that. I changed quite a lot buttons and toolbars like I always do with a fresh alpha build, and everything works here.

Bill_P # 17. October 2007, 13:02

Mail disappears once again if I downgrade to a previous version from the latest build. Mail still exists but Opera does not display it.
- Is there a fix? Some might consider this a critical problem

Bookmarks messed up when downgrading from this build, all folders seem to be permently moved to root (i.e. there are no longer such a concept as sub-folders)

Fyrd # 17. October 2007, 13:04

Framesets don't work? Ouch! I know frames are evil, but damn...

Thanks for new build!

t1gershark # 17. October 2007, 13:05

Can anyone confirm headline problems with
www.heise.de ?

But thanks again for this build, looking forward for
the beta release.

The_CyberShadow # 17. October 2007, 13:08

Can someone please tell me where do I report bugs in alphas/betas??

Rijk # 17. October 2007, 13:09

Originally posted by Bill_P:

Mail disappears once again if I downgrade to a previous version from the latest build. Mail still exists but Opera does not display it.- Is there a fix? Some might consider this a critical problem

We can't fix that older build... It is a big nuisance for you testers if you relied on 9.5 for your mail (which you really really shouldn't do with alpha/snapshot builds). But for Opera 9.2 > 9.5 upgraders this will not be an issue, since they will need to confirm an update of their mail database anyway. So I doubt we'll do anything about it.

kiaM # 17. October 2007, 13:09

@t1gershark: confirmed.

Investor # 17. October 2007, 13:10

www.heise.de... confirmed

Regression :Copy to note not working ???

Edit: well copy to note, when a link, still doesn't work. And otherwise the copied stuff is copied to note folder marked, instead of simply creating a new note (change in behaviour ?)

Tuttle # 17. October 2007, 13:11

I confirm heise.de and gmail.com (you should disable javascript in script preference and chosse basic HTML view for gmail; it still works with ssl, for us using uncrypted wifi)

Rijk # 17. October 2007, 13:12

Originally posted by The_CyberShadow:

Can someone please tell me where do I report bugs in alphas/betas??

At https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/

It is a good idea to first look for earlier reports in the Desktopteam blog comments and the Beta testing forum. Especially if issues seem to be obvious, we probably already know about it.

DandS # 17. October 2007, 13:16

No GMail support on this build sounds very bad for me...I will skip it too. =/

Uzm # 17. October 2007, 13:18

Heise.de does display properly for me.

joshas # 17. October 2007, 13:18

Nice, but I'll wait for Beta release.

Bill_P # 17. October 2007, 13:24

@Rijk - the mail disappearing with downgrades should be on the known issues list with CAPITAL LETTERS, I backup everything nightly because of the weekly's but not all be do and they should be forewarened.

HeeZy # 17. October 2007, 13:25

Originally posted by Tamil:

Bookmarks in folders and sub folders are moved to root. Can anyone confirm?

confirmed here. good thing i backed up my bookmarks and now i can restore then and revert to 9562.

Rijk # 17. October 2007, 13:34

Bookmarks-from-subfolder-to-root is bug 291335

feil0ng # 17. October 2007, 13:34

This and the two previous builds crash by submitting on this search:
Link
- Type somthing in the field "Ort"
- Press "Suche"
=> crash
Build: 1633 (and before)
System: x86_64, 2.6.22.9-amd64
Qt library 3.3.7

seems to work fine on vista64

+ heise.de confirmed

ps: how do i get opera to work with java 64bit?
It says path is valid ... but that's all

Wade # 17. October 2007, 13:51

Unix build: Flash 9.0r64 is not working at all. Also can anyone confirm right click “search” not working without first selecting “search with” and changing search engine?

untitled1 # 17. October 2007, 13:54

can confirm the problem with heise.de headlines (linux 64bit & linux 32bit & windows)

chokes # 17. October 2007, 13:56

The start bar Disapered in this build what's going on?

untitled1 # 17. October 2007, 14:02

i am developing some pages in php and noticed such a problem with opera, in other browsers it is working:

i made a script which changes the headers, so the file becomes downloadable (i had to make an export in csv format), here my code:

header( "Content-Type: text/comma-separated-values;" );
header( "Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64;" );
header( "Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=\"PM_.csv\"" );

but in opera when clicking on the corresponding link, the download dialog appears but it has the name of the script inside and not the name i gave in the Content-Disposition-header! so in my case opera suggests to save the file as "export.php" and not as "PM_.csv".

i have noticed this behavior on other sites, too...

anyone can confirm?

blackrave # 17. October 2007, 14:07

I assume this build includes the security fixes implemented in the new 9.24 build as well, if needed?

Thanks for your work. Looking very much forward to the beta build.

Romain Vigier # 17. October 2007, 14:11

Framesets work with MacOS (10.4). Only a few bookmarks are moved to root (4 out of about 40).

Honestly, I think that the new icon for bookmarks synchronization is even more intrusive than the other... And by disabling, it should totally disappear instead of displaying a big gray icon and a text... In my opinion, there should be no text at all and only a small icon (this one is good, but with transparent background and lighter green arrows) with a tooltip on hover, instead of icon + login name (who needs it?) + status (already given by icon).

larskl # 17. October 2007, 14:15

@untitled1: known bug

Junyor # 17. October 2007, 14:16

@untitled1: Known issue.

jrronimo # 17. October 2007, 14:27

I can confirm -- folders in sub-folders moved to root.

I also still have bug #290474-s79. Using Inspectr does not give a crash report, either.

I think gmail is broken.

untitled1 # 17. October 2007, 14:28

ok, thank you, i thought maybe i made something wrong with the headers

another problem with current build (9600, winxp), (maybe also known, where can i see the known issues?):

on http://www.spiegel.de/videos/ (a favorite german news site) there are flash videos, the first one is starting fine. but when i switch to another one on the right side nothing happens... it definitely worked in 9.23. (flash player 9,0,47,0)

greets