Opera Desktop Team

Beta++

By Tommy A. Olsentoman. Friday, November 2, 2007 4:00:00 PM

WARNING: These are pre-beta builds: they contain the latest changes, but they also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, they may not work at all.

Before downloading, make sure you read the known issues:

Gmail compose window is just 1px tall
*NIX builds crash when connecting to IRC

Assorted changes since Beta

Find in page now continues search from the location of the last mouse click
Fixed a freeze when syncronizing Opera
Fixed skandiabanken.no certificate installation
Fixed crash when reindexing mail
Removing mail from filters now works again
Removed support for http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40 namespace
Confirm exit while logged in to link now works
Fixed an issue with link not synchronizing some bookmarks (XML errors)
Fixed nickname handling in addressbar
Setting cache to off really means nothing is written to disk. (PS: View source doesn't work without disk cache... )

UNIX specific

Plugins sometimes don't work properly
We have FreeBSD 7 builds!
Added a lot of applications in the Suggests line in deb packages
The command line switch -notrayicon is now respected again

Mac specific

This build will use the same settings as 9.50 Beta

Download

Opera 9.5 beta released Experimental <video> build released on Opera Labs

Comments

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FataL # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:02:16 PM

Find in page now continues search from the location of the last mouse click

But search still broken. Try to search for "opera" on this long page.
Opera will find and highlight every "opera" on the page, but will not able to go (F3) through all search results and will start over from the top.

Kostia RomanovKildor # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:04:43 PM

Removing mail from filters now works again
Confirm exit while logged in to link now works

Very big thanks $)

BTW, in earlier versions, if I press Del to delete mail, Opera asked me about «Do you really want to delete mail», but now it silent deletes mail
How can I return old behaviour?

arghwashier # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:05:18 PM

Plugins sometimes don't work properly

I hope this means a lot of work on it is being done at the moment and soon we can finall use flash 9 properly?

Wade # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:05:46 PM

please, make find (CTRL+F) as it used to be:a pop up window

Claudio Santambrogiocsant # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:09:08 PM

Originally posted by arghwashier:

I hope this means a lot of work on it is being done at the moment

Yes, it does! We have some big changes coming up

Bausch PatrickPhilo007 # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:09:24 PM

crash on linux when trying to open chat

Wade # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:11:51 PM

Yes, it does! We have some big changes coming up

sounds nice! thank you!

Bill PBill_P # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:11:57 PM

UNIX specific - Plugins sometimes don't work properly

Which plugins specifically are probematic?

Haavardhaavard # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:12:58 PM

Originally posted by Wade:

please, make find (CTRL+F) asi it used to be:a pop up window

Nothing has changed here. Ctrl+F still opens the "Find" dialog.

freekey # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:17:56 PM

i think the opera 9.5 has been talked about a so long time ago..

but yet until now, there is still no stable release..

So why not just work hard for opera 10 itself? wouldn't that be better??

The YeOKYeOK # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:21:15 PM

Great, but I can't seem to find a Linux x86_64 build, can anyone help, or is there not one ready yet ?

arghwashier # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:21:33 PM

btw is it a known bug that the the .9 static build picks up changes in style from qtconfig and qt4config but forgets them when restarting?

Jeldert # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:22:33 PM

No AMD64 build for Linux (x86_64-linux)?

arghwashier # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:23:18 PM

Originally posted by csant:

Yes, it does! We have some big changes coming up

great

Claudio Santambrogiocsant # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:23:33 PM

No x86 linux builds this week, sorry.

lynott # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:25:19 PM

Hm, still no pop fetching fix

The YeOKYeOK # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:25:50 PM

Thanks for the reply, at least I know

Keep up the good work.

Somhsomh # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:27:30 PM

Good work.

Angelomon # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:28:45 PM

Opera 9.50 with 3 most used feature is missing

1- copy and other shell features of the windows in download is now missing
2- copy selected text on link and more options is missing
3- RSS feeds now is show only 3 last at random of only 1 feed updated
and now is more hard to know what feed is updated... (i don't know what is the point of just show notification of new messages if u don't know witch of the feeds is updated)
I have 1000 by day of feeds updated and now is show only 3 updates at random of only 1 feed

will be back in the final release ???
or it will be available an option to re-enable all this wonderful feature ???

For me all this features is standard, easy and fast way to work.
I don't understand of just wipe out this features or the opera team is unknown of this 3 missing features ?

xeon0541 # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:33:16 PM

http://www.javabeat.net/articles/2007/11/spring-ibatis-integration/

that page fonts too small. seems css layout problem,but 9.24 is work fine

FataL # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:34:54 PM

From forum tread:

You can easily see slowness effect at digg.com. Just open Digg's home page, then open some comments...
Next there are two options:
* wait until page with comments completly loaded, then go back -- you should notice pause and reloading of the page with new banners (since they are loading through JavaScript)

Seems this one is fixed in build 9624 for Windows.

* wait until page half loaded and try to go back -- you should notice that Opera is not responding to your command immediatelly

But second issue is still there

Opera doesn't allow you go back until page is fully loaded.

FataL # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:37:50 PM

and now is more hard to know what feed is updated... (i don't know what is the point of just show notification of new messages if u don't know witch of the feeds is updated)

Ohhh! That's really bad. I haven't tried to use in full RSS and M2 in 9.5 yet.

MisterE # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:43:06 PM

"Find in page now continues search from the location of the last mouse click"

Thank you.
This is the biggest improvement for me in this build.

1stOTHfan # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:45:08 PM

It still doesn't seem to want to take a forward (Refresh) to a url like this:

http://www.msxsecurity.com/csh/Goesssmoalltime-t44711.html&pid=357181&st=0#entry357181

Everything from the # is cut off so it just sends you to this:

http://www.msxsecurity.com/csh/Goesssmoalltime-t44711.html&pid=357181&st=0

ThArGos # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:50:01 PM

Thanks for the build

Going to test it

Bill PBill_P # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:51:58 PM

cache question - previously when playing a youtube video the swf file was available in cache but no longer, why? is the this settable?

also, youtube video's seem to crash Opera, after playing a while properly the browser crashes

running Suse 10.3

bexs # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:56:21 PM

IIIICCCCOOOONNNNNNN

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olli # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:57:43 PM

bexs: ?

King Crimson # Friday, November 2, 2007 4:58:00 PM

The same old BUG: saving images still opens the transfer tab!

Please fix it!

Benjaminvivabrevis # Friday, November 2, 2007 5:00:55 PM

yippiaiey

MetalRaise # Friday, November 2, 2007 5:07:03 PM

Ha, I knew that there will be another beta.

Which definitely is a good thing. Just take your time, please. Having Kestrel Final for Christmas would be great though.

Now it's testing time.

bexs # Friday, November 2, 2007 5:16:37 PM

Originally posted by olli:

bexs:?

The tray icon is still there.

Adam Dziuraadas # Friday, November 2, 2007 5:17:30 PM

http://adas.jogger.pl/ - my blog now is bad rendering on linux ubuntu - fonts are too small... Opera use other fonts now?

Angelomon # Friday, November 2, 2007 5:18:35 PM

Originally posted by FataL:

Ohhh! That's really bad. I haven't tried to fully use RSS and M2 in 9.5 yet.

yes it is I have 8 feeds
and opera 9.5 it show in notification only 3 messages of 1 feed of the most updated feed

in older version it shows which feeds is updated and not the messages of a feed
and now I don't know which feeds is updated and if I use "read feeds" is like hell all mixted...

this is really bad if u use much feeds with much mesages...

otherwise all is wonderful in opera and

to the opera team keep

with builds

FataL # Friday, November 2, 2007 5:24:41 PM

I have 8 feeds

I have ~80 feeds.

So, I usually decide to read or not to read from notifications that show (in 9.24) names of all just updated feeds.

Wade # Friday, November 2, 2007 5:32:48 PM

Nothing has changed here. Ctrl+F still opens the "Find" dialog.

not for me! it goes on my search box in toolbar, before(9.23) it just opened pop up box.linux build

Galileo # Friday, November 2, 2007 5:38:39 PM

Thanks for the build

...Testing... Wade maybe you have Use Integrated Search on opera:config enabled?

allix # Friday, November 2, 2007 5:42:26 PM

9.5 is coming along nicely. My only concern is the bookmarks-panel. Opening a folder is done with a single click, but hiding them again after opening a bookmark needs a click-wait-click(one to highlight and one to close. Double-clicking does not work). Would it be possible to make them close on a single-click too?

Or even better. When clicking a top-level folder, all other top-level folders are closed automatically. (Maybe as an option in opera:config)

Using Opera(9.50-20071102.6-shared-qt_i386) on Debian Lenny.

Angelomon # Friday, November 2, 2007 5:48:07 PM

Originally posted by FataL:

So, I usually decide to read or not to read from notifications that show (in 9.24) names of all just updated feeds.

in version 9.24 is all ok the problem is I use only 9.5

and in 9.5 the notification it shows only 3 messages and not the feeds this is unusable for me and the notification it appears in slow slow motion so it not good for me this feature any more... and I think I just disable it

rwf # Friday, November 2, 2007 5:52:13 PM

1. rm -rf /tmp/testopera

2. opera -pd /tmp/testopera &

3. Preferences -> Advanced -> Browsing -> Loading -> Redraw when loaded

4. Preferences -> Advanced -> Shortcuts -> Opera Standard for UNIX

5. F2 http://files.myopera.com/Ottifanten/files/vBulletin.png

6. Anybody see anything strange?

a) The address bar has "Document 2%"
b) The image is not displayed.
c) or if it is, it takes more than a minute.
d) Enter <Escape>
e) Image displays

7. Must be my system, huh?

Kamaleshkamalesh # Friday, November 2, 2007 5:58:13 PM

Using Build 4517/Leopard:

The Gmail "quoted text" function in the rich-text editor works again! Thanks! And window-size on start-up, also!

(Unfortunately, we still have 1-px disease, and no Gmail chat, still.)

Sergei Stolyarovcancel # Friday, November 2, 2007 6:02:46 PM

Cool! Thanks for the release! It looks more stable than previous. Looks like Opera works correctly with cache now.

But I've found that I can't open disk directory in the browser window, when I type something like «/home/cancel» and press Enter nothing happens. Is it bug? Can anyone confirm?

I'm using Debian Linux Lenny. qt-shared build, tar.bz, clean install.

Claudio Santambrogiocsant # Friday, November 2, 2007 6:07:23 PM

cancel, the issue is known, thanks

MetalRaise # Friday, November 2, 2007 6:18:37 PM

Find in page now continues search from the location of the last mouse click

toyo # Friday, November 2, 2007 6:18:38 PM

fetching new mail works 4 me.
1000xThank u!
it was very stressing modifing ur email accounts after each mail received

but now it's solved, good job!!!

The pages containing flash are still VERY slow ...
IE renders them 2-3 times more quicker, and without eating 100% of my CPU. hope this will be fixed in the next ver.

MetalRaise # Friday, November 2, 2007 6:26:36 PM

Beta Build 9613: Hide Speed Dial -> Content Blocker buttons not clickable.
Beta Build 9624: Hide Speed Dial -> Content Blocker is just being shown as a white, blank bar.

Danielzadar # Friday, November 2, 2007 6:36:32 PM

first thx for a new build !

but now some bug reporting.

http://www.germanwings.com/index.de.shtml - Flüge suchen (Flight Search) Button not responding .

http://www.konami-pesleague.de/ - when klicking on Downloads Button , Images not showing propertly.

greeting !

MetalRaise # Friday, November 2, 2007 6:37:30 PM

"Show Images" toolbar button (the one with the little arrow) only switches between "Show Images" and "Cached Images" on left click.

The other button without the arrow is cycling through all three modes like it's supposed to be.

MetalRaise # Friday, November 2, 2007 6:42:19 PM

Originally posted by zadar:

http://www.germanwings.com/index.de.shtml - Flüge suchen (Flight Search) Button not responding .

Does work for me (after a short delay).

Originally posted by zadar:

http://www.konami-pesleague.de/ - when klicking on Downloads Button , Images not showing propertly.

Confirmed. Is being displayed properly in Firefox 2.0.0.8.

pino # Friday, November 2, 2007 6:46:11 PM

Import certifikate - opera freeze.

9.50 Beta 2
Build 1652

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