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Even more work

By toman. Friday, 16. November 2007, 15:50:43

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In this build, we added MathML support out of the box, with a few improvement from our initial support outlined by chaals in his article on dev.opera.com.

Known issues
  • UNIX: Speed dial config dialog has an ugly shadow
  • UNIX: Dragging images turns them grey
  • UNIX: Can't connect to IRC
  • UNIX: Downloading torrents can exhaust memory and uses 100% CPU
  • Sometimes crashes on exit
  • Some images don't load fully


New stuff
  • Added MathML support (Check out examples here)
  • Added support for the XSLT document() function (poke to xmlhacker ;-) )
  • New and improved mail authentication dialog
  • New nice icon for mail whose body isn't downloaded


Assorted bugs fixed
  • Fixed a bad crasher that occurred on a lot of sites when closing a tab
  • Again possible to open directories directly without file://localhost/ in front
  • Fixes to <pre> and <code> font sizes
  • Fixed top links in gmail
  • Fit to width now works even if the window is larger than 1600px
  • getters and setters are now prototypable in node interfaces
  • getSeconds() no longer returns -1
  • Hovering input/radio buttons on websites now shows the normal cursor again
  • Several Opera Link bugs squashed
  • A bunch of XPATH fixes
  • A bunch of XSLT fixes


Mac specific
  • Moved close button on tabs to the left hand side


UNIX Specific
  • It is now possible to choose what open/save dialog type to use. Configure here 0=auto, 1=QT, 2=GTK.


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Comments

mflagler 16. November 2007, 16:54

Ahh! I did guess the build number right!

Tamil 16. November 2007, 16:54

Originally posted by toman:

we added MathML support out of the box

Thanks. :up:

lakeview 16. November 2007, 16:55

Third to try :D

shadowk 16. November 2007, 16:57

downloading now.

szh 16. November 2007, 16:58

"Moved close button on tabs to the left hand side"
Wonder how the Mac users will react to that? :D

el_esponjoso 16. November 2007, 16:58

Great build


#6

piroxicam 16. November 2007, 16:59

Thank you! Keep them coming!

rseiler 16. November 2007, 17:02

Looks like we're left to fill in the Known Issues again (not counting UNIX, of course).

michael.opera 16. November 2007, 17:03

Windows specific
Fixed the animated gif corruption

--> not here after clean install, stil several corrupted gifs (google reader, speed dial, ...)


Second: in this build, this site goes wrong (right side) www.standaard.be

.meteoTWrapper {width:160px; height:72px; border:1px solid #cccccc;} .headerTicker {background:#ffffff url(/extra/weer/img/header/header_ds_right.gif) 0% 0% repeat-x; width:25%; font:bold 10px Verdana,arial,sans-serif; text-align:center; height:14px; color:#ffffff; padding:1px 4px 0px 4px; vertical-align:middle; text-transform:lowercase;} a.headerTickerLink {font:bold 10px Verdana,arial,sans-serif; color:#ffffff; text-decoration:none;} a.headerTickerLink:hover {font:bold 10px Verdana,arial,sans-serif; color:#ffffff; text-decoration:underline;} .iconTicker {padding:2px 0px 2px 0px; text-align:center; vertical-align:middle;} .dataTicker {padding:2px; height:13px; text-align:center;} a.dataTickerLink {font:bold 9px Verdana,arial,sans-serif; color:#006699; text-decoration:none;} a.dataTickerLink:hover {font:bold 9px Verdana,arial,sans-serif; color:#006699; text-decoration:underline;} .dataTickerT {font:bold 10px Verdana,arial,sans-serif; color:#333333; padding:2px 3px 2px 3px; vertical-align:middle; text-align:left;} VrZaZoMin-2ºC-1ºC0ºCMax5ºC7ºC6ºC
Meer weer...

Uses to work in former builds

Alnag 16. November 2007, 17:06

The bugs so far...

Opening *.jpg files in new window does not load them correctly. Opening the jpg for second time opens them quickly. This is not a new issue. I wonder why it is not in known issues despite the fact, the list is pretty short now.

Problem with attachments at some webmails. They save the attachment as default without suffix instead of the proper name. Also an issue from previous builds.

Opera tray icon does not change to envelope when new mail arrives. For how long will this problem last? Any yet still not in know issues?

The number and headlines of RSS feeds that appear in the bottom-right Opera popup are not from actuall incoming RSS but the previous round of them. Not a new issue.

What is the known issues good for? To make it optically shorter?

New issue with RSS headlines. When I click the RSS headline which contains other symbols than basic alphabeth (it means characters with acute, ague, wedge and so on...) they change into something like this - ˙ű˜H›Řœ˜^™[ˆŰšZݙ[ˆ?ţ˙ä€

BleedingHeart 16. November 2007, 17:06

%c %u %l etc all seem to be working again. :smile:

FataL 16. November 2007, 17:08

Added support for the XSLT document() function (poke to xmlhacker ;-) )

Aaaaaaa! :eyes: I can't believe it! :up:
Seems like all tests passed.

tomurbanowicz 16. November 2007, 17:12

Will be added color management to Opera like in the Firefox 3?

alexs 16. November 2007, 17:14

Windows specific
Fixed the animated gif corruption


I can't confirm this (XP home)

hurug 16. November 2007, 17:14

Great ! Thanks.

FataL 16. November 2007, 17:14

@rseiler: you should probably rerelease "future build" changelog with some corrections :wink:

rseiler 16. November 2007, 17:18

@FataL: Note that 9668 is still in the chute for next Friday. The Opera folks will be busy little beavers between now and then it seems.

MrBlueSky 16. November 2007, 17:19

Thanks! Hope this build is better than the alpha I had on. :smile:

Soleen 16. November 2007, 17:21

Thank you for new build:
Two questions:
Does plugin mechanism on *nix still not advised to use in this build, or were there some changes to it?
Any luck with Sparc Solaris issues? :frown:

tinezi 16. November 2007, 17:24

Thanks for fixing "%u" issue with custom menu.ini.
And plugins seems to work now with this build in linux.
Excellent work!

FataL 16. November 2007, 17:26

bug Regression in this build: hyperlink barely clickable.

csant 16. November 2007, 17:27

Originally posted by Soleen:

Does plugin mechanism on *nix still not advised to use in this build, or were there some changes to it?



They should work better now, but the big upcoming changes are not yet in - be patient :smile:

Any luck with Sparc Solaris issues?



It's getting almost a curse: first they were crashing on startup, we fixed it and they crashed right away as soon as they initialized anything related to mail, we fixed it and they stopped compiling, we fixed it and they failed compiling because of a new module taken in... Please be patient: we are focussing on getting them out as soon as possible (read: as soon as somebody else doesn't break them somewhere else p: ).

I am sorry for the continuous delays :smile:

FataL 16. November 2007, 17:32

bug Regression in this build: Opera can't find all "opera" on Slashdot page.
(For example, "video/3Dcanvas build" can)

profiT 16. November 2007, 17:32

Fixes to
and font sizes


?

Kuja-IX 16. November 2007, 17:33

The scrolling problem still not fixed ! try at http://www.avast.com/eng/vps_history.html

FataL 16. November 2007, 17:35

Please add to "New stuff":

HSL color model support

:up: HSL support in Core-2

elitegeek 16. November 2007, 17:36

Keep up the good work! :smile:

Anty 16. November 2007, 17:38

@Alnag: True, true...

Fyrd 16. November 2007, 17:42

Sounds excellent! :smile: *gets*

adas 16. November 2007, 17:44

I can't send mail to newsgroup with subject with polish characters. I have a encoding UTF-8.

Try a subject: Zażółć żółtą jaźń.

vinodkk1 16. November 2007, 17:46

Thanks for the new build .. It seems faster

Could you ps fix the cookie related bugs in the next build .. Most banking site dont seem to respond well to the new Opera .


Yahoo mail beta seems to crash Opy(pet name for Opera) in this build .

Also could u ps fix bugs when u scroll thru most watched videos in google reader


stranded 16. November 2007, 17:46

I have enough of this, most annyoing bugs are still there. I never thought I would say this but I'm throwing Opera away until there's a FINAL, STABLE version of the 9.5, I don't want to use 9.24 right now when I used 9.5 for so long.

I'll give Safari a chance.

Peace, waiting for new builds.

the.illidan 16. November 2007, 17:50

why you didn't fix animated gifs?
if there is a transparent background, in some frames i get black or gray or some other color

adas 16. November 2007, 17:51

Sometimes pages looks like this: http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/f2735aa74a090c11.html - without padding on menu (this screenshot on wikipedia)

cancel 16. November 2007, 17:53

Thanks for new build. Address bar dropdown list now works MUCH faster!

And probably to known issues: GTK dialog looks ugly. this is screenshot

I'm using Debian Etch, qt 4.3.1, kde 3.5.7, libgtk 2.12.1.

Fyrd 16. November 2007, 17:56

Hm, the new close buttons will take some getting used to. But they make sense. :smile:

Also, as cool as the MathML thing is, I hope I'll never need to learn its syntax! I mean, wow.

dantesoft 16. November 2007, 18:00

support for the XSLT document() function

Yeey!

derSchorsch 16. November 2007, 18:02

"Moved close button on tabs to the left hand side"

What? Noooooooooooo.
Why??

Ward 16. November 2007, 18:07

What does the XSLT document() function give us?

Fyrd 16. November 2007, 18:12

@derSchorsch

Because...that's where close buttons go in OS X? :smile:

SoulOfDoinel 16. November 2007, 18:19

fixed [BUG 296670]
Great !!

Khadgar 16. November 2007, 18:19

Originally posted by Toman:

Moved close button on tabs to the left hand side.


Thanks a bunch. There's two problems with this at the present time that I see, however.

1. For me to see the tabs this way I had to dump my preferences.
2. The favicon should go to the left of the words as well and to the right of the close icon.

*runs off to play with MathML*

indigoviolet 16. November 2007, 18:36

http://www.orkut.com/Scrapbook.aspx is broken in this build (and the previous build). You need an account.

Gurre 16. November 2007, 18:46

> Mac specific
> Moved close button on tabs to the left hand side

I´d like to have this in the Unix builds as well.

termoactiv 16. November 2007, 18:46

These build won't start on my vista ultimate.
I'v had to downgrade to a previous build.

Luchio 16. November 2007, 18:50

Originally posted by Gurre:

> Mac specific
> Moved close button on tabs to the left hand side

I´d like to have this in the Unix builds as well.


:no: The "standard" in most Linux distributions is have the close btn on the right, unless you modify your settings. By default it's on the right, where any sane person would put it. *runs away from the Mac crowd*

sebt 16. November 2007, 18:54

Windows specific..Fixed the animated gif corruption



Many users report that this is not fixed in the latest (Windows) build. However, it is fixed for me.. test page:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/

The rolling banner ad at the top was corrupting before, and looks fine now. It might be useful for others to confirm whether this page looks correct in the latest build.

Seb :smile:

Romain Vigier 16. November 2007, 18:56

I'm fine with the left position of the close button on tabs, it's consistent with Safari. However, I'm not sure that putting favicon on the right is good. In my opinion, it would be better to hide them on tabs.

By the way, triple click still selects only one sentence and not an entire paragraph. MacOS 10.4.

Thanks for adding MathML support. Viewing this page: http://devfiles.myopera.com/articles/186/stress.xhtml , Operators are big squares instead of big U. Viewing this page: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/demo/texvsmml.xhtml , entities don't display the caracter they refer to, e.g. &pi; doesn't display the Pi number.

FataL 16. November 2007, 18:58

Seems like History Navigation Mode = 3 is fixed...
Anyone else to prove it?..

BTW, I can easily see that Opera 8.54 still be much responsive than any Opera 9.x (including 9.5 builds).
Easy to test: go to digg.com, wait until home page is completely loaded, than found topic with 100+ comments and proceed to page with comment. Try to interrupt loading of comments page with BACK action (Backspace, Back toolbar button, mouse, etc.).
Try to do this sequence couple times with two browsers: Opera 8.54 and any 9.x.
In my tests it is clearly that Opera 8,54 go back immediately, but Opera 9.x needs pressing Back multiple times.
P.S. All tests I done was with History Navigation Mode = 3 for Opera 9.x.
P.P.S. I tested this on 3 different Windows PCs with clean Opera install.
P.P.P.S. Just tested also Safari 3 for Windows, and it appears that this browser going back much faster than any Opera 9.x, but not as fast as Opera 8.54.

So, anyone else can confirm this?..

ipa 16. November 2007, 18:58

Still very slow start-up: hdd is hardly using for 2.5 minutes. Maybe that depends on email messages count approx. 40 000.

Non-latin characters in RSS and Mail subjects and also contact names are still corrupted.

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