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New snapshot - Windows skin work

By mitchman2. Friday, 18. January 2008, 16:10:00

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WARNING: These are development snapshots: they contain the latest changes, but they also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, they may not work at all.

New known issues
  • UNIX: Tooltips with the native skins look weird
  • Last week's snapshot (Windows build 9735, Mac build 4603, and Linux/UNIX build 1754) contained a serious IMAP bug that could cause internal data corruption. This problem is most likely to affect those with TLS enabled. Symptoms include headers displaying, but bodies missing and/or duplicates messages. The underlying cause of this corruption is fixed in this snapshot, but unfortunately, there's no fix for the corruption. The only way to fix this corruption is to delete your Mail directory and start over.


Skin changes
The last week has seen quite a bit of work on improving the native skin on Windows. This includes both the "classic" look and the XP/Vista themed look. Some of the improvements you will see in this regard are:

  • The background in the panel selector toolbar is less dark
  • Close buttons in tabs and notifications have native elements
  • Tooltips and notifications have native elements
  • Margins on the dropdown button are gone
  • The element used to show/hide the list in Delete Private Data and other places is native
  • The sort arrows up/down on listview column headers are native
  • The tabs in the Windows "classic" skin are now more like real tabs and no longer sunken buttons


There will be more skin changes forthcoming.

Changelog
  • [266167] Fixed sorting issues in mail
  • [299821] Fixed several IMAP synchronization issues
  • [307698] Fixed secure connection on IRC
  • [306510] Fixed problem with closing wrong tab if click tab to minimize was enabled
  • [306920] The close button on tabs is now red again
  • [283037] Fixed syncing of speed dial update intervals
  • [306466] Mac: Fixed freeze on HTTP auth dialog
  • Experimental support for recursive mbox import
  • Fixed some issues regarding IMAP labelling of messages (eg, spam)
  • Calmed down the link status field a bit (Don't change it unless something actually happened)
  • Some improvements to fast forward, works better on ie engadget.com and ebay.com
  • Added /notrayicon command line argument on Windows as well (yay)
  • Fixed issue where downloaded message bodies would disappear
  • Fixed TLS handshaking issues, which could cause problems when sending mail
  • Fixed over-wrapping issue with right-aligned mail headers


Download

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Comments

lamarca 18. January 2008, 16:12

thanks for the new build

AyushJ 18. January 2008, 16:15

Added /notrayicon command line argument on Windows as well (yay)


:hat:

tsarhan 18. January 2008, 16:15

Thanks.

gamesmaniac 18. January 2008, 16:15

yay, thanks very much!

Any chance of seing an SSL-improved version soon?
On my machine the last weeklies crash frequently on SSL-sites (Amazon, banking, other shopping sites...)
Did a clean install yesterday with the last weekly - no improvement.

But, anyway, keep up the great work! :smile:

piroxicam 18. January 2008, 16:15

thank you OPera

PientaL 18. January 2008, 16:17

Thanks a lot, let's test it :D

drumblius 18. January 2008, 16:19

thank you

tsarhan 18. January 2008, 16:21

What about bug-307003 and GIF-animation?

thobi 18. January 2008, 16:29

thx :smile:

Kanel 18. January 2008, 16:31

Thanks :up:

elitegeek 18. January 2008, 16:32

thank you.

A question: the bug mentioned for last week's build: does the corruption only happen within opera, or could it corrupt the data on the mail server? (when using IMAP with TLS enabled)

rseiler 18. January 2008, 16:33

Originally posted by gamesmaniac:

Any chance of seing an SSL-improved version soon?
On my machine the last weeklies crash frequently on SSL-sites (Amazon, banking, other shopping sites...)
Did a clean install yesterday with the last weekly - no improvement.


What platform is this on? I've never seen or even heard of such a thing on Windows.

Bill_P 18. January 2008, 16:36

It still seg faults in Linux (probably java script) and it's been over a month with no resolution. Q - are the static, 64bit or .9 versions more stable? I'm using the .6 i386

trojahn 18. January 2008, 16:37

thanks!

Junyor 18. January 2008, 16:37

@elitegeek: Only within Opera.

Ahjadann 18. January 2008, 16:38

Hi Opera Team! You do a wonderful job with your weekly builds. But since
months I notice some sites not working correctly. These sites are:

www.digg.com <- The "Digg"-Logo in the top left corner is party hidden.
www.gimp.org <- The whole page is messed up
Yahoo! Mail <- Performance is not that good

But there are even good news! Google Calendar is finally working nicely!
Thank's for that guys!

Jezus_Depeper 18. January 2008, 16:38

Is it me or aren't there any search engines with this build?

Dasch 18. January 2008, 16:41

Please can you write for Mac users this build is not using the Opera Beta prefs anymore. For me now it is too late and I don't know what's going on here. :frown:

davidviolin 18. January 2008, 16:43

Hey and thanks for the new build. Unfortunatly, the google calendar still doesnt work properly, when you want to edit an entry and change the date, the little date box shows up, you click on a date, the box closes, but the date hasnt changed.

alexs 18. January 2008, 16:44

Thanks fixed the bug 305539 (byte-order mark)

- build 9745 crashes on Widgetize Feed widgets example
- crash when open irc channel list

davidviolin 18. January 2008, 16:46

@alexa: Crash confirmed, win XP SP2.

Investor 18. January 2008, 16:47

Bug ?
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/index.html
Scroll down (to video section) causes my Kestrel to freeze. Merlin while sluggish gets the job done.

Confirmation ?.

(Opera 9745 on Win XP)

gamesmaniac 18. January 2008, 16:47

@rseiler:
Platform is WinXP SP1.

One day (last november or so) I installed a new weekly (been upgrading ever since some 7.xx version, ran at least 50 updates :wink: ) and found SSL to be crashing my machine. I didn't do anything else (i.e. change my proxy, install a new version of java, flash etc. - nothing).
I've been waiting for a bugfix ever since (I'm a patient guy :D ) but today I felt like asking as it's a pain in the behind to have to use FF for all my shopping, netbanking etc :wink:
Didn't file a bugreport as I can't reproduce the crashes 100% - every fifth or so ssl-page I load crashes.

@Investor: Works over here...

dantesoft 18. January 2008, 16:47

Calmed down the link status field a bit


:yes:

Zybex 18. January 2008, 16:49

New dropdown buttons are ugly :down:
Size/position of tabs are slightly changing when moving thru tabs :down:

qoqosz 18. January 2008, 16:49

On Mac OS X 10.5 every 9.5 builds crash making Opera unable to use :frown:

ytsmabeer 18. January 2008, 16:50

-build 9745 crashed on Widgetize Feed widgets example


This is reported

RocknRolf 18. January 2008, 16:52

@alexs: Crash confirmed, linux (sidux)

Uzm 18. January 2008, 16:58

GIF-animations STILL broken! Problem found 6 or 7 builds ago - and hasn't been fixed yet. :S

chasterford 18. January 2008, 17:01

Thanks to the Opera team :smile:

Just two questions:
When is the next official beta planned and when will the released version of Opera 9.5 comes out?

Bill_P 18. January 2008, 17:03

Flash in Linux (386 and 64bit) is using major amounts of cpu and the weird thing is it's using it from both processor cores. Looks like pluginwrapper was rewritten and needs adjustments. Definetly a regression from earlier builds for 386 versions.

Trasak 18. January 2008, 17:06

1. In previous versions Opera been download size displayed in bytes, when will this feature return to the new version ? This feature is very usefull for professional.

2. Remember cursor position on bookmark?

jmechy 18. January 2008, 17:10

Any fix for [BUG 306466] Mac: HTTP auth freezes Opera?

Freeky 18. January 2008, 17:11

Hate the new tabs; I have mine displayed vertically down the side of the window, and not only can I now fit a lot fewer of them there because they're taller, but they look like crap since they're clearly made to go at the top. Even there, they look silly when allowed to wrap. They were better as buttons, IMO.

On the other hand, the Windows sidebar now only needs a single click to switch pages, which makes it more suitable as a replacement for us weirdos who regularly have 40+ tabs, hurray. Now it just needs MMB to close a page, and a lower indent level so there's not a 25px margin down the side.

suribe 18. January 2008, 17:13

any screenshoot (of the windows skin)?

sacharja 18. January 2008, 17:14

Nevertheless the "bad" bugs that affect all sites are still there and there is no development.

The worst one (Opera doesn't continue loading when going backwards):
http://files.myopera.com/sacharja/files/back.html
(Bug-207229 affects every internet site).

Still maximized pop-ups when using windows instead of tabs and "Allow script to hide address bar" is disabled:
http://files.myopera.com/sacharja/files/bug-290456%20window_open.htm
(Bug-290456 affects every internet site)

This one affects every site that uses relative values, because Opera can't handle them:
http://files.myopera.com/sacharja/files/Width.html
(it was not submitted by me; if someone knows the bug number or original forum post please post)

On this site: http://groups.google.com/group/opera.linux/browse_frm/thread/b7b76ee77f8bef0e/b5%20%207635a6bc1c7c35 Opera fixed the overlapping dates. However the content has the wrong size now, a regression. That's not as urgent as the bugs above, but painfully that Opera is not able to display its own google group.

Another regression: http://groups.yahoo.com/ (search button is not diplayed in the same line).

rwf 18. January 2008, 17:20


UNIX: Tooltips with the native skins look weird



They look even worse if you select Windows skin and use the -style motif option when starting Opera. The tooltip are completely black.
O9.50-1766(.1)

svivian 18. January 2008, 17:33

"There will be more skin changes forthcoming."
I hope you mean Linux, too :wink: Windows improvements look good anyhow, though Vista skinning sucks in every app. You should probably not have the white highlight on the address bar or panel bar, just the File/Edit/View bar.

One issue I just noticed: when downloading files, they are put at the top of the transfers list as normal, but when I restart Opera the newer transfers are at the bottom of the list.

Also when I change skin, the buttons of the address bar don't change.
EDIT: actually they change most of the time, but if I switch to Windows Navite skin then to another, most of the buttons (Forward/Back) stay as default.

ismoph 18. January 2008, 17:33

Nice, favicons and mail client are functioning again.

Junyor 18. January 2008, 17:34

@gamesmaniac: If you don't report it (with a crash log), it's unlikely to be fixed.

@gogosz: Please provide more information about the crashing your experiencing.

@Uzm: http://snapshot.opera.com/faq.html#why-bug

@chasterford: http://snapshot.opera.com/faq.html#when

@jmechy: It's fixed.

fearphage 18. January 2008, 17:37

Added /notrayicon command line argument on Windows as well (yay)

And the crowd goes wild! \o/

While we are copying command line switches, I'd like to put my vote in for /nomail (pretty please :love:), all the /debug* switches, /newpage, /newwindow, and /backgroundpage.

Thanks again!

Junyor 18. January 2008, 17:39

@Dasch: Yikes! I've pulled the OS X build while we investigate.

antini 18. January 2008, 17:40

NICE!

Any chance of metalink support in the download manager in 9.5 or 10.0? It makes it easier to automate a number of advanced features.

http://www.metalinker.org/

jmechy 18. January 2008, 17:42

After upgrading from 4591 OSX to 4614 Opera wants to upgrade my mailbox. About 1/4 of the way into the process Opera crashes. Looks like I'm back to 4591 for now.

Fyrd 18. January 2008, 17:45

*awaits result of the OS X investigation*

Junyor 18. January 2008, 17:47

@jmechy: The upgrade is happening because Opera is not looking at the correct preferences directory. The crash shouldn't occur, though. :frown:

gamesmaniac 18. January 2008, 17:47

@Junyor: I will provide a bug report now that I know a clean install didn't fix my problem :smile:

//edit: bugreport filed - #308183

rasenbaer 18. January 2008, 17:49

It really sucks that the Mac-Beta is using the regular ./Opera Preferences directory instead of the ./Opera Preferences Beta. What's the point???

After several crashes of this beta I restarted 9.25 which wouldn't come up again.
I finally found out that moving or deleting ~/Library/Application\ Support/Opera/
solved the problem.
The beta tried to change some IMAP settings and must have messed up something in this directory...

Rongar 18. January 2008, 17:55

Hi,
not only that the tooltips look funny under linux, they cause the X server to take any compute power it can get.

Can one of the Opera team can find out if there is some bad side effect (possible X-Server restarts or even worse?)

Edit:
Just noticed that the high X Server load happens while rendering...

piroxicam 18. January 2008, 18:00

When I delete one RSS Feed, it does not update the counting in that feed. For example: if I had 10 feed and erase one, it should be counting 9. But it stays at 10. It only updates the list and I close and re-open Opera.

Is it necessary to submit a bug report?

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