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New snapshot - Windows skin work

By Petter Nilsenmitchman2. Friday, January 18, 2008 4:10:00 PM

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WARNING: These are development snapshots: they contain the latest changes, but they also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, they may not work at all.

New known issues
  • UNIX: Tooltips with the native skins look weird
  • Last week's snapshot (Windows build 9735, Mac build 4603, and Linux/UNIX build 1754) contained a serious IMAP bug that could cause internal data corruption. This problem is most likely to affect those with TLS enabled. Symptoms include headers displaying, but bodies missing and/or duplicates messages. The underlying cause of this corruption is fixed in this snapshot, but unfortunately, there's no fix for the corruption. The only way to fix this corruption is to delete your Mail directory and start over.


Skin changes
The last week has seen quite a bit of work on improving the native skin on Windows. This includes both the "classic" look and the XP/Vista themed look. Some of the improvements you will see in this regard are:

  • The background in the panel selector toolbar is less dark
  • Close buttons in tabs and notifications have native elements
  • Tooltips and notifications have native elements
  • Margins on the dropdown button are gone
  • The element used to show/hide the list in Delete Private Data and other places is native
  • The sort arrows up/down on listview column headers are native
  • The tabs in the Windows "classic" skin are now more like real tabs and no longer sunken buttons


There will be more skin changes forthcoming.

Changelog
  • [266167] Fixed sorting issues in mail
  • [299821] Fixed several IMAP synchronization issues
  • [307698] Fixed secure connection on IRC
  • [306510] Fixed problem with closing wrong tab if click tab to minimize was enabled
  • [306920] The close button on tabs is now red again
  • [283037] Fixed syncing of speed dial update intervals
  • [306466] Mac: Fixed freeze on HTTP auth dialog
  • Experimental support for recursive mbox import
  • Fixed some issues regarding IMAP labelling of messages (eg, spam)
  • Calmed down the link status field a bit (Don't change it unless something actually happened)
  • Some improvements to fast forward, works better on ie engadget.com and ebay.com
  • Added /notrayicon command line argument on Windows as well (yay)
  • Fixed issue where downloaded message bodies would disappear
  • Fixed TLS handshaking issues, which could cause problems when sending mail
  • Fixed over-wrapping issue with right-aligned mail headers


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Comments

lamarca lamarca Friday, January 18, 2008 4:12:12 PM

thanks for the new build

AyushAyushJ Friday, January 18, 2008 4:15:04 PM

Added /notrayicon command line argument on Windows as well (yay)


party

Klaus Doblmanngamesmaniac Friday, January 18, 2008 4:15:38 PM

yay, thanks very much!

Any chance of seing an SSL-improved version soon?
On my machine the last weeklies crash frequently on SSL-sites (Amazon, banking, other shopping sites...)
Did a clean install yesterday with the last weekly - no improvement.

But, anyway, keep up the great work! smile

João Davidpiroxicam Friday, January 18, 2008 4:15:46 PM

thank you OPera

ŁukaszPientaL Friday, January 18, 2008 4:17:48 PM

Thanks a lot, let's test it bigsmile

Justasdrumblius Friday, January 18, 2008 4:19:46 PM

thank you

thobi Friday, January 18, 2008 4:29:54 PM

thx smile

LudvigKanel Friday, January 18, 2008 4:31:17 PM

Thanks up

James Cassellelitegeek Friday, January 18, 2008 4:32:23 PM

thank you.

A question: the bug mentioned for last week's build: does the corruption only happen within opera, or could it corrupt the data on the mail server? (when using IMAP with TLS enabled)

rseiler Friday, January 18, 2008 4:33:12 PM

Originally posted by gamesmaniac:

Any chance of seing an SSL-improved version soon?
On my machine the last weeklies crash frequently on SSL-sites (Amazon, banking, other shopping sites...)
Did a clean install yesterday with the last weekly - no improvement.


What platform is this on? I've never seen or even heard of such a thing on Windows.

Bill PBill_P Friday, January 18, 2008 4:36:59 PM

It still seg faults in Linux (probably java script) and it's been over a month with no resolution. Q - are the static, 64bit or .9 versions more stable? I'm using the .6 i386

Marcelus Trojahntrojahn Friday, January 18, 2008 4:37:38 PM

thanks!

Tim AltmanJunyor Friday, January 18, 2008 4:37:57 PM

@elitegeek: Only within Opera.

Ahjadann Friday, January 18, 2008 4:38:02 PM

Hi Opera Team! You do a wonderful job with your weekly builds. But since
months I notice some sites not working correctly. These sites are:

www.digg.com <- The "Digg"-Logo in the top left corner is party hidden.
www.gimp.org <- The whole page is messed up
Yahoo! Mail <- Performance is not that good

But there are even good news! Google Calendar is finally working nicely!
Thank's for that guys!

KoenJezus_Depeper Friday, January 18, 2008 4:38:30 PM

Is it me or aren't there any search engines with this build?

-( + )-Dasch Friday, January 18, 2008 4:41:35 PM

Please can you write for Mac users this build is not using the Opera Beta prefs anymore. For me now it is too late and I don't know what's going on here. sad

Daviddavidviolin Friday, January 18, 2008 4:43:27 PM

Hey and thanks for the new build. Unfortunatly, the google calendar still doesnt work properly, when you want to edit an entry and change the date, the little date box shows up, you click on a date, the box closes, but the date hasnt changed.

Alexsalexs Friday, January 18, 2008 4:44:32 PM

Thanks fixed the bug 305539 (byte-order mark)

- build 9745 crashes on Widgetize Feed widgets example
- crash when open irc channel list

Daviddavidviolin Friday, January 18, 2008 4:46:58 PM

@alexa: Crash confirmed, win XP SP2.

Investor Friday, January 18, 2008 4:47:28 PM

Bug ?
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/index.html
Scroll down (to video section) causes my Kestrel to freeze. Merlin while sluggish gets the job done.

Confirmation ?.

(Opera 9745 on Win XP)

Klaus Doblmanngamesmaniac Friday, January 18, 2008 4:47:37 PM

@rseiler:
Platform is WinXP SP1.

One day (last november or so) I installed a new weekly (been upgrading ever since some 7.xx version, ran at least 50 updates wink ) and found SSL to be crashing my machine. I didn't do anything else (i.e. change my proxy, install a new version of java, flash etc. - nothing).
I've been waiting for a bugfix ever since (I'm a patient guy bigsmile ) but today I felt like asking as it's a pain in the behind to have to use FF for all my shopping, netbanking etc wink
Didn't file a bugreport as I can't reproduce the crashes 100% - every fifth or so ssl-page I load crashes.

@Investor: Works over here...

Dan Alexandrudantesoft Friday, January 18, 2008 4:47:47 PM

Calmed down the link status field a bit


yes

AlexandrZybex Friday, January 18, 2008 4:49:06 PM

New dropdown buttons are ugly down
Size/position of tabs are slightly changing when moving thru tabs down

qoqosz Friday, January 18, 2008 4:49:32 PM

On Mac OS X 10.5 every 9.5 builds crash making Opera unable to use sad

berend ytsmaytsmabeer Friday, January 18, 2008 4:50:24 PM

-build 9745 crashed on Widgetize Feed widgets example


This is reported

RolfRocknRolf Friday, January 18, 2008 4:52:52 PM

@alexs: Crash confirmed, linux (sidux)

chasterford Friday, January 18, 2008 5:01:23 PM

Thanks to the Opera team smile

Just two questions:
When is the next official beta planned and when will the released version of Opera 9.5 comes out?

Bill PBill_P Friday, January 18, 2008 5:03:13 PM

Flash in Linux (386 and 64bit) is using major amounts of cpu and the weird thing is it's using it from both processor cores. Looks like pluginwrapper was rewritten and needs adjustments. Definetly a regression from earlier builds for 386 versions.

Trasak Friday, January 18, 2008 5:06:30 PM

1. In previous versions Opera been download size displayed in bytes, when will this feature return to the new version ? This feature is very usefull for professional.

2. Remember cursor position on bookmark?

jmechy Friday, January 18, 2008 5:10:24 PM

Any fix for [BUG 306466] Mac: HTTP auth freezes Opera?

Thomas HurstFreeky Friday, January 18, 2008 5:11:07 PM

Hate the new tabs; I have mine displayed vertically down the side of the window, and not only can I now fit a lot fewer of them there because they're taller, but they look like crap since they're clearly made to go at the top. Even there, they look silly when allowed to wrap. They were better as buttons, IMO.

On the other hand, the Windows sidebar now only needs a single click to switch pages, which makes it more suitable as a replacement for us weirdos who regularly have 40+ tabs, hurray. Now it just needs MMB to close a page, and a lower indent level so there's not a 25px margin down the side.

Sergio Uribesuribe Friday, January 18, 2008 5:13:11 PM

any screenshoot (of the windows skin)?

sacharja Friday, January 18, 2008 5:14:26 PM

Nevertheless the "bad" bugs that affect all sites are still there and there is no development.

The worst one (Opera doesn't continue loading when going backwards):
http://files.myopera.com/sacharja/files/back.html
(Bug-207229 affects every internet site).

Still maximized pop-ups when using windows instead of tabs and "Allow script to hide address bar" is disabled:
http://files.myopera.com/sacharja/files/bug-290456%20window_open.htm
(Bug-290456 affects every internet site)

This one affects every site that uses relative values, because Opera can't handle them:
http://files.myopera.com/sacharja/files/Width.html
(it was not submitted by me; if someone knows the bug number or original forum post please post)

On this site: http://groups.google.com/group/opera.linux/browse_frm/thread/b7b76ee77f8bef0e/b5%20%207635a6bc1c7c35 Opera fixed the overlapping dates. However the content has the wrong size now, a regression. That's not as urgent as the bugs above, but painfully that Opera is not able to display its own google group.

Another regression: http://groups.yahoo.com/ (search button is not diplayed in the same line).

rwf Friday, January 18, 2008 5:20:47 PM


UNIX: Tooltips with the native skins look weird



They look even worse if you select Windows skin and use the -style motif option when starting Opera. The tooltip are completely black.
O9.50-1766(.1)

Scott Viviansvivian Friday, January 18, 2008 5:33:36 PM

"There will be more skin changes forthcoming."
I hope you mean Linux, too wink Windows improvements look good anyhow, though Vista skinning sucks in every app. You should probably not have the white highlight on the address bar or panel bar, just the File/Edit/View bar.

One issue I just noticed: when downloading files, they are put at the top of the transfers list as normal, but when I restart Opera the newer transfers are at the bottom of the list.

Also when I change skin, the buttons of the address bar don't change.
EDIT: actually they change most of the time, but if I switch to Windows Navite skin then to another, most of the buttons (Forward/Back) stay as default.

Ismo Hänninenismoph Friday, January 18, 2008 5:33:42 PM

Nice, favicons and mail client are functioning again.

Tim AltmanJunyor Friday, January 18, 2008 5:34:53 PM

@gamesmaniac: If you don't report it (with a crash log), it's unlikely to be fixed.

@gogosz: Please provide more information about the crashing your experiencing.

@Uzm: http://snapshot.opera.com/faq.html#why-bug

@chasterford: http://snapshot.opera.com/faq.html#when

@jmechy: It's fixed.

MyOpera team, please fix this!fearphage Friday, January 18, 2008 5:37:47 PM

Added /notrayicon command line argument on Windows as well (yay)

And the crowd goes wild! \o/

While we are copying command line switches, I'd like to put my vote in for /nomail (pretty please love), all the /debug* switches, /newpage, /newwindow, and /backgroundpage.

Thanks again!

Tim AltmanJunyor Friday, January 18, 2008 5:39:24 PM

@Dasch: Yikes! I've pulled the OS X build while we investigate.

antini Friday, January 18, 2008 5:40:05 PM

NICE!

Any chance of metalink support in the download manager in 9.5 or 10.0? It makes it easier to automate a number of advanced features.

http://www.metalinker.org/

jmechy Friday, January 18, 2008 5:42:05 PM

After upgrading from 4591 OSX to 4614 Opera wants to upgrade my mailbox. About 1/4 of the way into the process Opera crashes. Looks like I'm back to 4591 for now.

Alexis DeveriaFyrd Friday, January 18, 2008 5:45:15 PM

*awaits result of the OS X investigation*

Tim AltmanJunyor Friday, January 18, 2008 5:47:02 PM

@jmechy: The upgrade is happening because Opera is not looking at the correct preferences directory. The crash shouldn't occur, though. sad

Klaus Doblmanngamesmaniac Friday, January 18, 2008 5:47:23 PM

@Junyor: I will provide a bug report now that I know a clean install didn't fix my problem smile

//edit: bugreport filed - #308183

rasenbaer Friday, January 18, 2008 5:49:22 PM

It really sucks that the Mac-Beta is using the regular ./Opera Preferences directory instead of the ./Opera Preferences Beta. What's the point???

After several crashes of this beta I restarted 9.25 which wouldn't come up again.
I finally found out that moving or deleting ~/Library/Application\ Support/Opera/
solved the problem.
The beta tried to change some IMAP settings and must have messed up something in this directory...

Rongar Friday, January 18, 2008 5:55:06 PM

Hi,
not only that the tooltips look funny under linux, they cause the X server to take any compute power it can get.

Can one of the Opera team can find out if there is some bad side effect (possible X-Server restarts or even worse?)

Edit:
Just noticed that the high X Server load happens while rendering...

João Davidpiroxicam Friday, January 18, 2008 6:00:53 PM

When I delete one RSS Feed, it does not update the counting in that feed. For example: if I had 10 feed and erase one, it should be counting 9. But it stays at 10. It only updates the list and I close and re-open Opera.

Is it necessary to submit a bug report?

Ilya Birmanilyabirman Friday, January 18, 2008 6:02:28 PM

Please remove the bevel within the status field element (Windows Native skin). Looks ugly when status panel is put onto some other bar.

serious Friday, January 18, 2008 6:05:12 PM

skin changes are quite nice, but preferences-tabs look quite messed up (no top border of the underlying element) in windows classic skin in windows xp x64 (which is windows classic theme in normal xp)

Ismo Hänninenismoph Friday, January 18, 2008 6:05:54 PM

Scolling makes the page to divide into two. 2 thirds of the page is 1 mm late.

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