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Opera 9.5 RC - Prepare for launch

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You might have noticed we've focused on stabilizing the Opera 9.5 snapshots lately, waxing the new look and feel of Opera, improving performance, security and most of all fixing a lot of bugs. Almost two years after the release of Opera 9.0, Opera 9.5 is now (almost) ready to be released. :jester:
Thanks for your feedback on Opera Link, Quick Find, Dragonfly and EV and all the new features, usability improvements, new skin, tweaks and bugfixes. We hope you all feel proud of making Opera 9.5 the best choice for surfing the web!
Announcement of 9.5 release by Jon von Tetzchner

Tell your friends about Opera!
Even though everyone reading this blog knows that there is a difference between one browser and another, there are still too many people who don't. We need your help to spread the word!


WARNING: On Windows, this build will by default replace the default installation of Opera. Take special care when installing


Changelog
  • Copied the latest Dragonfly to the live servers - Check out their blog for the latest info
  • Various stability fixes
  • Opera no longer wants to update a nonexistent mail store when upgrading from 9.2 to 9.5
  • 'Download message bodies' is now enabled on all POP accounts
  • Fixed a loss of filter rules on upgrade from 9.2
  • Fixed an issue with a missing Panel button
  • Fixed an issue where the 'New tab' toolbar was hidden behind the panel toggle button when no tabs were open
  • Added sharper panel selector icons
  • Fixed dragging of multiple items in the bookmark manager
  • Fixed Russian and German dictionary search
  • Improvements in backwards compatibility with skins
  • Fixed login with cookie on the 31st of all months bug
Mac specific changes
  • The disk image should work on Mac OS X 10.2 again
  • Some improvements to the Mac Native skin

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Turtle Wax9.5 is available

Comments

skye11 10. June 2008, 15:40

yeah!

WOFall 10. June 2008, 15:40

Finally, i've literally been waiting for this for months...

Hope this is a stable one P: Great work guys :up:

lamarca 10. June 2008, 15:41

thanks for the new snapshot release candidate

zoquete 10. June 2008, 15:42

'< thank you Jon von Tetzchner :D

Galileo 10. June 2008, 15:43

:hat: Thank You :yes:

wirusek 10. June 2008, 15:43

Thanks for the new build :cheers:

Tamil 10. June 2008, 15:44

:happy:

Morphdreamer 10. June 2008, 15:44

Fantastic :cheers:
Downloading....

Dark_MX 10. June 2008, 15:54

this snapshot killed all my custom configurations O_O even speed dial websites

emaia 10. June 2008, 15:57

uhuu
:jester: :headbang: :drunk: :yes: :cheers: :hat:

varyform 10. June 2008, 16:02

Correct me if I'm wrong: 9.5 final won't pass acid3?

Publisher 10. June 2008, 16:02

not nice the scrollbar


spybot2d 10. June 2008, 16:06

Hooray! :jester: :hat: :headbang:

FataL 10. June 2008, 16:07

Originally posted by varyform:

Correct me if I'm wrong: 9.5 final won't pass acid3?

Believe or not there are things that are waaaay more important that Acid 3 test.... ( bug bug bug )
No, Opera 9.5 will not pass the test, and devs never say that it will...

efekan258 10. June 2008, 16:07

Thanks a lot :yes:

Raistlin 10. June 2008, 16:07

Is it not to early?

matt.porter 10. June 2008, 16:08

I haven't been keeping up with issues - but are these facebook errors I'm getting known?

Wade 10. June 2008, 16:09

http://www.foreca.com/ not loading flash weather maps. Linux build

fearphage 10. June 2008, 16:10

Originally posted by varyform:

Correct me if I'm wrong: 9.5 final won't pass acid3?

You are correct.

Button18, "Shorten with is.gd!"=Go to page, "http://is.gd/create.php?longurl=%u", 1
Button20, "TinyURL!"=Go to page, "http://tinyurl.com/create.php?url=%u", 1
Worked as buttons in 10048. They don't work in 10051 or the latest rc. Is this a bug? Can anyone confirm?

Originally posted by matt.porter:

I haven't been keeping up with issues - but are these facebook errors I'm getting known?

Good question. One of the best ways (maybe THE best way) is to file a bug. Then for sure they will know about it.

hurug 10. June 2008, 16:11

Thanks all devs. Until now, I don't see changes in the skin...

Junyor 10. June 2008, 16:12

@matt.porter: Facebook is aware of the issue.

@Dark_MX: Sounds like you didn't install in the correct directory.

EricJH 10. June 2008, 16:14

Installed it...:sherlock:

Buchtic 10. June 2008, 16:18

The new gmail http://mail.google.com/mail/?nocheckbrowser has still too wide left menu.

Misha v.3 10. June 2008, 16:20

thanks!

finally I can remove from toolbar button which add new tab!

but button (cross at top-right) for close panels don't work (my wife said that it worked in 9.2x, but I never used it myself because of I either use F4 or click at left edge of screen).

emperordarius 10. June 2008, 16:20

Very very good job. You finally reached the RC stage. But there's still the Yahoo mail beta javascript errors. Please, try to fix these issues in the final build (Or Opera 10).

Memory usage now stable, was high in the previous build.

Delerue 10. June 2008, 16:20

This famous brazilian website has a 'too bold' table borders that you can't see with Opera 9.2x and other browsers: http://www.boadica.com.br/query04.asp?ClasseProdutoX=5&CodCategoriaX=7&XG=1

This is a minor problem, but I think it deserves a little look. :smile:

This site here can't open the top links inside the bottom frame; instead, it opens a new tab. Can't reproduced it with 9.2x and other browsers: http://rdelerue.sites.uol.com.br/sia/

Thanks and keep going

thotypous 10. June 2008, 16:25

Thanks for the good work!

I'd like to ask if a Qt4 shared version for Linux will be available until 9.5 final. It would be great!

AleksOD 10. June 2008, 16:29

Why is it a release candidate if it still crashes when importing Newsfeeds on Vista? :mad:

jmechy 10. June 2008, 16:30

Facebook is still practically unusable with this build. Any chance of getting these problems fixed soon?

sites.web.pt 10. June 2008, 16:30

Problems displaying favicons in the search field, just showing the default opera icon. bug
BTW why not making local google the default search engine, like google.pt in the Portuguese version or google.fr in the French version? If I change the default to google.pt searching in address field stops to work.

Raistlin 10. June 2008, 16:30

in gmail2 doesn't work wysywig mail editor (linux, ubuntu).
http://mail.google.com/mail/?nocheckbrowser

alexs 10. June 2008, 16:31

the categories menu from http://deviantart.com doesn't work

Cyro 10. June 2008, 16:31

Thank you Jon and everybody else at Opera Software!
That's simply Morphinomental!!!

Stifu 10. June 2008, 16:31

One more time, I'd like to highlight the fact there's still an important CSS opacity regression in Opera 9.5.

See this testcase: http://stifu.free.fr/dl/temp/opera-opacity-bug.html

I already reported this bug last year.

subtitles 10. June 2008, 16:33

uTorrent WebUI still doesn't work with 9.5. it stalls at "Loading". Works fine in Firefox.

Edit:

Movable type issues: Rich Text editor still isn't fully working. When you click on the text entry box, though the cursor is blinking, the arrow keys don't move the cursor, and you can't type.

Also the image uploader doesn't work.

Economist.com - the "most commented" box at the top and a bit to the right doesn't work. Works fine in both IE and FF.

Chas4 10. June 2008, 16:34

http://www.9news.com/
can't get the log in to work

a widget should pop up

FataL 10. June 2008, 16:34

Originally posted by guga50:

http://www.metacafe.com/ - search doesn't work

Still doesn't work. It didn't work in Opera 8, 9, and now in 9.5

Originally posted by guga50:

https://www.fordconnection.ru/car.asp?car=FocusGhia&model=Focus&engine=1 - looks weird

Ugly regression. Can confirm.
Unfortunately I can bet that they will not fix such regressions until Opera 10. :irked:

mgillespie 10. June 2008, 16:35

Sad day, it seems this was pushed for RC status, not because it's ready, but because that's what Firefox is upto, and Opera wanted to beat them to it.

You know a successful company should be looking at what IT is doing, not what it's competitors are upto...

There are still may high profile websites, that work in 9.27, IE7 and FF, but fail to work in Opera 9.5RC :-(

As much as I love Opera, and will continue to use this, I feel the area at which Opera excels, i.e. polish is a bit dull at the moment. Need more Turtle Wax...

As for "Tell your friends about Opera!", sorry, with so many high profile sites not working, telling friends about Opera means lots of phonecalls for help :-(

John164 10. June 2008, 16:36

My problem with Find in page is still present.

Try finding 5.220 in the web page http://www.shortwavemonitor.com/05-10.htm

The page dose not scroll down to the found item and pressing enter dose not take you to the first item found! then you have to click in the displayed web page to gain focus and the found items are then lost:awww:

It might be the web page that has a design fault.

EricJH 10. June 2008, 16:36

Originally posted by jmechy:

Facebook is still practically unusable with this build. Any chance of getting these problems fixed soon?

I saw a reaction from a person from Facebook here at the forums, it may have been in the thread of the previous weekly, stating they are working on this problem.

zipatei 10. June 2008, 16:36

Thank you for this release but I have that much to ask that you take into account the following points.

- Please put the togler active by default and withdraw the "panel".

- Please put the button to close each tab, and more meior the tab. The button is so small that it is difficult clicking it.

The favicons of search engines in this release already show the favicon of their sites, but not update the favicons with their sites. For example, the "Google" remains the favicon old.

Finally, see this link http://home.utad.pt/~usc/objectivos.htm in the bottom of the page is appearing too much space, which is not supposed to be. In all other browsers and even in Opera 9.27 this happens.

Junyor 10. June 2008, 16:37

@AleksOD: Bug number?

Ravindran 10. June 2008, 16:39

kudos for your launch. :smile:

Derbeth 10. June 2008, 16:39

This version still has a bug of infinite page loading caused by JavaScript: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=235578&t=1213115812

I would also like to have a choice of picking up the old default skin. The new one seems a bit too revolutionary for me so far.

FataL 10. June 2008, 16:40

Finally, see this link http://home.utad.pt/~usc/objectivos.htm in the bottom of the page is appearing too much space, which is not supposed to be. In all other browsers and even in Opera 9.27 this happens.

Can confirm.

Gyrobo 10. June 2008, 16:41

For input type=number, I'm not seeing arrows. Just the buttons.

The new trashcan icon is appalling, as are the low contrast scrollbars. The panel toggle now has a very nice, instantly identifiable black triangle, why not make the scrollbars that color?

And the black tab bar is still pretty obtrusive and doesn't stand out all that much from the actual tabs. The panels icons DO seem a little more bearable, thank you for that.

I'm guessing this is only a RC because you want to get more peoples' opinions on the new skin and Kestrel is too complete to be called beta 3.

rhonnysparks 10. June 2008, 16:43

awesome!

is there a reason why flash has been really laggy and unresponsive in the last few linux builds? i.e youtube and the like aren't viewable (everything is fine in the window builds though)

AleksOD 10. June 2008, 16:47

@Junyor: just reported, bug # 336689

FataL 10. June 2008, 16:47

For input type=number, I'm not seeing arrows. Just the buttons.

Confirm!

MetalRaise 10. June 2008, 16:48

Release canditate already?
I'm at a loss for words, and that's not meant in a positive way...

I didn't try out the new build yet, but I bet there's still dozens of issues around that I've reported ages ago.
For example, there's still an issue with cookies deleting from the Cookie Manager, because they re-appear and sometimes you need to re-open the Cookie Manager 4 or 5 times until all those cookies permanently have been removed you wanted to.
Another cookie issue is that I can't login to certain websites, for example to my Flickr account when "Accept only cookies from the site I visit" is set. Editing the Site Preferences doesn't change a thing. And it has been that way all throughout the Kestrel snapshots.
There's dozens of other things, like features you changed and where you didn't care about your loyal users to provide a fallback option to the previous behaviour, e.g. auto-centering of mouse cursor when using auto-scroll.

I'm deeply disappointed, seriously.

Don't get me wrong. You've done a lot of work over the past months, but Kestrel isn't ready for a release, simple as that. But obviously Opera Software ASA doesn't care about quality releases as much as I do.

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