9.5 is available
By Huib Kleinhouthuibk. Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:50:06 AM
We would like to share some fun facts with you:
- Opera is now available in 29 languages, 6 more than in 9.27 and more are coming
- The number of Opera users has more than doubled since the release of 9.0
- We fixed a new record of bugs, including 2350 showstoppers
- The desktop team ate 12 pizzas while fixing bugs in 9.5 RC
- IMAP is up to 4 times as fast in 9.5 than in 9.2
- Almost 500.000 of you were already using betas of 9.5
Opera 9.5 is now available on www.opera.com/download
Enjoy!
The desktop team



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Benjamin KoehneNetnose # Friday, June 13, 2008 9:20:20 AM
I like the new skin and overal feel.
I've got one problem, though:
HSBC Internet Banking (http://www.hsbc.co.uk) is broken. It starts with the login page (missing buttons, suddenly seeing page source instead of rendering) and continues wehen you're logged in (wrong placed tables and graphics).
Can somebody confirm this?
Otherwise: Thanks for your work!
Regards,
Netnose
DanDan100 # Friday, June 13, 2008 9:25:16 AM
Shoddy, and the sort of basic UI bugs which should have been sorted out between a RC and final.
Opera Link is also not very useful -- I somehow ended up with two lots of most of my bookmarks and folders when syncing with standard settings for the very first time.
PixelDevil # Friday, June 13, 2008 9:28:33 AM
lots of users in forum complaining about many issues ranging from cache not working properly, high memory consumption, importing of files failing, flash sites not working. the list is endless.
it is very sad to see Opera like this.
lampacz # Friday, June 13, 2008 9:36:27 AM
using build 2042(official 9.5) on x86_64, 2.6.25.4:
13320 lmp 39 19 103m 5196 3992 R 100 0.3 1335:10 operapluginwrap
operapluginwrap again using 100% cpu.
János, Vinczevinczej # Friday, June 13, 2008 9:52:19 AM
The stabilitiy and speed did grow very strongly. It isn't without bugs, but summarized, it's a very good release. I hope, that next builds will be even better.
Somiknight # Friday, June 13, 2008 10:22:45 AM
Mikhail Zaytsevmihmanz # Friday, June 13, 2008 10:42:28 AM
I think you should include survey in uninstallation process:
"Please, say what is the reason of your decision to uninstall Opera 9.50 Final:
1. New "beautiful" skin and other "improvements" over classic UI that every Opera user adores.
2. A lot of bugs, even more than in some weekly 9.50 builds (9.50 beta2 somehow feels even better), so it simply doesn't work correctly with the most of my beloved sites.
3. Both reason 1 and reason 2."
My God, where's Scandinavian quality in 9.50 Final and who's said that Scandinavian design tradition is black and white design of funeral and sorrow. They call it "the most beautiful browser", how's interesting...
Is Opera the only browser where the color of tabs panel is much different than the colors of other panels? Genius idea... possibly.
I foresee bad reviews from critics.
johnnysaucepn # Friday, June 13, 2008 10:46:18 AM
Originally posted by PixelDevil:
These are the kinds of problems that people report on all browsers, in all builds. There's nothing new or specific to 9.5 here.
AlexeyI # Friday, June 13, 2008 10:57:26 AM
ps. opera 9.25 worked fine
postas # Friday, June 13, 2008 11:19:08 AM
Aurelijus Valeišaaurelijus # Friday, June 13, 2008 11:23:42 AM
Tolque53Tolque53 # Friday, June 13, 2008 11:26:13 AM
Sites that used to work fine and do not any more are a complete failure for a new browser.
So many people liked what I showed them in Opera, but their sites did not work. Some even started using Opera, but went back to IE or firefox because they could not make Opera work on specific sites they frequented. That is why workarounds like masking a browser do not really help. If you have to explain something to a user that he does not understand, he will keep using another browser.
Just imagine you buy a car, and its really impressive with the fuel that is intended for it. Then you come home, and you cannot get that special fuel. Your car manufacturer explains to you how to make the car work with normal fuel, pressing a button here and there, pulling something hidden in the engineroom... would you keep that car?
Opera failed to make progress in market share, it is beginning to get surpassed by Safari on Windows, too, because its faster and simply works.
I really would like to make the suggestion to use another rendering machine that other browsers already use. Would help getting away from the trouble described above.
For me personally, I can live with most of the problems, I can work around. It still is better for me personally to have a high speed cache, great working mouse gestures (I cannot get them in this quality on Firefox) and I am used to Opera Mail. But winning users will not work, I predict. And yes, I foresee miserable critics like a speed comparison I read some weeks ago that Opera 9.5 beta lost to Safari and Firefox (3 beta, of course) - in all terms.
Cryptobionika # Friday, June 13, 2008 11:28:47 AM
How can I PROPERLY prevent images from transferring to "transfers" window? All this "go to transfer -> view" I heard already. I need to know how can I make it the way it was in Opera 9.2.
I do realize that you believe hitting people in the face with "transfer" window and garbaging transfers is a good idea, but I certainly disagree.
If I disable transfer window popping up, it will not pop up at all, and I want to disable transfers for IMAGES ONLY.
I don't want the images to show up in transfers, I don't want transfers to show up when I save images, and I dont want to "download" images, just simply save them.
Why making it all so annoying? And why not make an option to set it like in Opera 9.2?! Anyway, since I save a lot of images, I simply cannot use Opera 9.50, even though I REALLY want to. I'd GREATLY appreciate any help. Any proper way to solve the problem. Thank you.
For those who didn't understand: no, my question has NOT been answered properly. Hiding transfer window is NOT a way to solve the problem. And it's a problem in my book.
And don't say I'm annoying. I'm using this program, I like it, and I need to know how to properly adapt it to my needs. It's only natural.
Tolque53Tolque53 # Friday, June 13, 2008 11:33:17 AM
johnnysaucepn # Friday, June 13, 2008 11:52:37 AM
Originally posted by Tolque53:
That's not the same kind of issue he was talking about. He's talking about issue specific to his installation, or his other installed software. Those kinds of problems are common across all browsers, and must be learned about on a case-by-case basis. Unless they truly affect the majority of users and have an obvious source, they're not show stoppers.
Mikhail Zaytsevmihmanz # Friday, June 13, 2008 11:55:16 AM
skydart # Friday, June 13, 2008 12:08:02 PM
AxelAxxL # Friday, June 13, 2008 12:13:32 PM
EricJH # Friday, June 13, 2008 12:14:46 PM
Originally posted by zix:
Change the way how Opera treats the Mime type here: Tools --> Preferences --> Advanced --> Downloads --> type PDF in the quick search field --> now you can edit it.pincopallino # Friday, June 13, 2008 12:16:36 PM
Pieter Van NuffelMuts # Friday, June 13, 2008 12:37:34 PM
But sometimes the (fav)icons from the bookmarks on my personal bar dissapear when I click on them.
Screenshot: http://muts.sin.khk.be/opera-bug-2.png
Bug number: 338030
Willy Buenollyborj # Friday, June 13, 2008 12:46:24 PM
catapulted # Friday, June 13, 2008 1:12:17 PM
For example, if I type "http://google.com" into Komodo and copy/paste to Opera, the URL mysteriously becomes "http://http://google.com", which then effectively yields "http://treck.as.http.de" in the end (I have German as my primary system language).
However, a copy/paste from TextEdit.app or Smultron correctly opens Google.
I do not know why this is (might have to do with the clipboard format or the encoding ?), but when pasting the URL from Komodo, Opera correctly shows the address bar drop-down list with Google sites.
Googling yielded some results that mentioned "treck.as.http.de" as a redirection target but I found no explanation...
Is this some weird kind of 1337 hax0r east0r eggz or what ?
PS: @manwe_:
Thanks a lot, re-encoding the client certificate worked.
However, I still believe that Opera should support client certificates with RC4 certificate part as this does not impose any significant security risks (3DES is used for the key).
itsjustarumour # Friday, June 13, 2008 1:37:52 PM
itsjustarumour # Friday, June 13, 2008 1:39:30 PM
I've been getting 500 server error for hours now when trying to access this blog, looks like the Opera infrastructure is having a very busy day...
János, Vinczevinczej # Friday, June 13, 2008 1:47:05 PM
http://www.compusa.com/ (overlapping head):
Mask as FF!
https://www.cool-pc.org/ (Very long load time....:
Mask as FF!
I think, these sites "know" Opera only up to 9.27
Luchio # Friday, June 13, 2008 1:51:43 PM
To answer your question, no, there is no setting to deny images from showing up in the transfer window. Sorry.
If you use the "Show transfers in background" it is less annoying. Personnally, I always have the transfer tab open and locked down and I use the "don't popup" setting.
Liu Yunliu-yun # Friday, June 13, 2008 2:03:19 PM
However, this build is such a rush that some things doesn't work for me.
1. Quicktime plugin almost doesn't work at all.
2. When trying to "Save Linked Content As", Opera has a 50% chance of crashing.
Other than those, it is working generally fine and thanks for the new interface.
Gölök Zoltán Leenderdt Franco BudayOrff # Friday, June 13, 2008 3:14:45 PM
Andrew G.consalt # Friday, June 13, 2008 3:17:12 PM
In Opera9.27 I can select url as text by clicking at the end of text. In 9.50 this feature doesn't work. Fix it please.
ElectriX2 # Friday, June 13, 2008 3:28:56 PM
And I must confirm problem witch showing icons of some pages in 'personal bar'...
You had to wait longer before releasing final. Too many bugs by my opinion...
But, anyway, great job!
chivitli # Friday, June 13, 2008 3:33:21 PM
nicetry # Friday, June 13, 2008 3:40:46 PM
Not to rain on the parade, but...the bug that refuses to disable the Master Password that I only wanted to use for 2 days while snoops were visiting is still there, and on top of that, all my passwords seemed to have disappeared (perhaps related to Mast Pass issue, don't have time to research why the wand suddenly broke). The username is there...you know, the info I can find in confirmation emails anyway...but the stuff I'll actually forget is inaccessible. On a positive note, the bug that forced text-only buttons (no, it was not set that way in preferences) is fixed as far as I can tell...I was getting tired of no graphics!
***To the Opera team: I want to reiterate that wand's inability to be cleanly backed up and merged is a serious, serious issue. I'm tired of these hit-and-miss will-it-or-won't-it work worries that come every time I update opera, move opera to a different computer, reinstall, and test a beta. Never mind the fun surprise of finding a site I rarely visit (and have no chance of remember username/pass) is no longer in my wand file. I have so many wand files I can't keep them straight...I only need 1!***
rseiler # Friday, June 13, 2008 4:01:41 PM
Oddly enough, Opera.com seems fine throughout this.
ElectriX2 # Friday, June 13, 2008 4:55:00 PM
for example:
http://www.tomtom.com/products/product.php?ID=402&Category=0&Lid=10&gclid=CNCerefx8ZMCFQuGugod6BmjVg
or
http://www.dsl.cz/
M4CH1N3pp-layouts # Friday, June 13, 2008 5:01:37 PM
now, my champions, make dragonfly editable. hey, it looks and works sometimes better than firebug. i know editable stuff is hard as hell, because i code myself. but that would be _it_:)
well, and about acid3 test again. i do understand, that it's not the most important feature. some people treat is as just... numbers. i don't know. acid2 was to test if the browser handles CSS2. if it did, even if it was not quite complete, it passed the test. acid3 is about javascript. when browser fais, what does it mean? some poperly written javascript code would not work?
and, do really please replay, what was it with 100% score some months ago? fake? never really happened? it seems kinda unfair, or rather ridiculous. everyone can claim their special top-secret browser scores 100 in acid3. or even 120
next question: when will be Opera CSS3 compliant? (to the extent of Safari 3.1.1 now)
kirk fontaine # Friday, June 13, 2008 5:10:46 PM
I just got back on my opera site after logging in a total of 6 times just today -what gives with this I know that this cryptic password generator is for security and privacy reasons but there needs to be a better and less annoying way to get logged in -for the love of god !
So I finally get in but want to let the proper developers to maybe look at this annoying issue for future versions and/or builds . Any one else have this issue?
Now I want to comment on the new DTV conversion issue. I did purchase the digital stream dtv converter for my TV's and I am satisfied with the result(clearer picture) but I did lose some of my favorite channels in th process and I just got this article in my email and the contents mirror my concerns with the program. I hope they iron out some of the problems as the deadline approaching. Any one have this issue and if so what resources are available to address this issues outline in this article
http://wdef.com/blog/digital_tv_converter_coupons_rendered_worthless_by_lack_of_supply_expiration/06/2008
zorroo08 # Friday, June 13, 2008 5:12:02 PM
It's a very pitty but it isn't , and I'm very disapointed how things went with Opera . As a matter of fact it irritates me that so many sites don't work and have to switch to FF.Even some functions in Opera are not properly , shame ,shame .
ustunozgur # Friday, June 13, 2008 5:12:55 PM
MZBulletProofED # Friday, June 13, 2008 5:24:03 PM
ElectriX2 # Friday, June 13, 2008 5:24:39 PM
Complete truth. I have to agree with every each word with you. This is not a final version, this is just early beta with too many bugs left. Now, I'm switching back to 9.27...
ElectriX2 # Friday, June 13, 2008 5:28:36 PM
Read here:
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2008/03/28/public-acid3-build
But this special build is too unstable for normal use
skye11 # Friday, June 13, 2008 5:35:30 PM
Opera's quick-release of 9.5 was and will prove to be a very CLEVER move, because:
1. it gives Opera a head start for attention & publicity (media coverage - hopefully) to recruit new users before FF-3 is released. Then when FF is released, people will see that it's just copy of Opera, and result in disappointment that it offers NO unique innovations.
2. it positions Opera to be able to be first again to release a "NEW and IMPROVED 9.51 upgrade", after FF-3 is released and FF users find themselves (potentially) unimpressed - and gives Opera a sooner attempt to satisfy its (and FF-3's) unhappy users.
3. it allows Kestrel to be associated as the "OLD" (pre-FF3) version, thus positioning Opera to already be working on an 'improved' version, while the world awaits FF-3. Releasing Kestrel after FF-3 would regrettably associate Kestrel as the "new" (post-FF3) version. This way, we are now heading towards 9.51, before FF-3 even appears - very smart, even with a yet imperfect 9.5.
4. All you complainers have no idea what Opera might (and long been) working on for their new version (ie. continual bug fixes & performance improvements, new innovations & exciting features, etc.). You'll see, after the new version(s) is released, all your complaints about 9.5 will be followed by surprise & elation, and profuse apologies for ever doubting Opera. Opera devs have have proved they possess the ingenuity & creativity to push innovation to the next levels and continue producing a high quality product.
As for FF 3 - BORING.
I will not install FF-3, but after just watching a couple videos on FF-3, it appears there are NO new innovating features (apart from the claimed memory & performance improvements). They merely conveniently copied all of Opera's innovations - ie. keyword quick search, history search, etc. And, FF requires Add-ons (ie. TabMix) to attempt to mimic what Opera already does standard, out of the box.
Opera is very sleek, retains that exotic sports-car look & feel (after a simple skin switch/tweak), and functionality & performance. FF-3 on the other hand, still looks & feels ugly & clunky. I would love to see Opera gain a larger user-base, but I actually enjoy that it's the underdog, while being such a powerhouse.
After several years of using & tweaking Opera, I'm extremely happy with it. It is the FASTEST and most solid and secure of all previous releases. The occasional temporary annoyances are trivial, knowing that more continual improvements & innovations are coming.
Soon, all you complainers will eventually realize that releasing Opera 9.5 now was a truly clever move.
Stay tuned for an improved 9.51!
ayespy # Friday, June 13, 2008 5:39:00 PM
Nope. Works perfectly on XP SP3
@zorroo08: That type of comment is utterly useless. First of all, you don't give your platform - which is critial to solving anything and everything. Second, for 99% of us, it's stable and fast. You give no clue what migh be different about your setup so the devs can make allowances for varying conditions. Third, WHAT site(s) "don't work?" HOW "don't" they "work?" Did you submit bug reports? (I'm betting not - easier to yell nothing works). "Even some functions in Opera..." WHAT functions? What's wrong with them?
Geez, what a total waste of perfectly good webspace.
At least when I bitch, I'm specific. Then maybe the devs can fix something.
Pawel Osmolskigofftiddums # Friday, June 13, 2008 5:43:08 PM
thanks again guys, i hope you continue to make this product the best you possibly can.
stay focused!
rseiler # Friday, June 13, 2008 6:00:28 PM
It's a great way to spin the situation, that's for sure, and I must congratulate you on trying to diffuse all the sniper fire. Bill and Hillary could have certainly used someone with your abilities--but it's too late now.
otheos # Friday, June 13, 2008 6:05:39 PM
I used it once when testing 9.50 alpha and it then stored my bookmarks and stuff online.
Now I need to delete all that online and sync with my new bookmarks and stuff.
There's no way. If I hit sync I get a mix of what was then online plus what is now my bookmarks and stuff. Thanks for the _before_sync opera6.adr backup file.
So anyone knows how to chose whether I need my opera to sync with Opera Sync OR Opera Sync to sync with my opera instance. Otherwise it's a dog to use.
At least some online editing (deleting) would be great.
Thanks.
PS. Checking stability on Vista64 wich was terrible with 9.27
Keep it up!
piotersu # Friday, June 13, 2008 6:09:37 PM
DrDanny # Friday, June 13, 2008 6:18:49 PM
Anybody?
Luchio # Friday, June 13, 2008 6:24:35 PM
I agree that the syncing DIRECTION is confusing, and often does stuff you don't want when setting it up the first time on the second computer...
I would also like to know more about this.
For the second part of your post, yes, you can edit your bookmarks online, at http://my.opera.com/YOURUSERNAME/account/link/ , but it's somewhat cumbersome to use.