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9.5 is available

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After lots of late night testing and bug fixing, 9.5 was released today. party
We would like to share some fun facts with you:
  • Opera is now available in 29 languages, 6 more than in 9.27 and more are coming
  • The number of Opera users has more than doubled since the release of 9.0
  • We fixed a new record of bugs, including 2350 showstoppers
  • The desktop team ate 12 pizzas while fixing bugs in 9.5 RC chef
  • IMAP is up to 4 times as fast in 9.5 than in 9.2
  • Almost 500.000 of you were already using betas of 9.5

Opera 9.5 is now available on www.opera.com/download
Enjoy!

The desktop team

Opera 9.5 RC - Prepare for launchTowards 9.51

Comments

Benjamin KoehneNetnose Friday, June 13, 2008 9:20:20 AM

Congratulations!
I like the new skin and overal feel.

I've got one problem, though:

HSBC Internet Banking (http://www.hsbc.co.uk) is broken. It starts with the login page (missing buttons, suddenly seeing page source instead of rendering) and continues wehen you're logged in (wrong placed tables and graphics).
Can somebody confirm this?

Otherwise: Thanks for your work! up

Regards,
Netnose

DanDan100 Friday, June 13, 2008 9:25:16 AM

Shame Opera didn't increase the vertical side bar contrast for the release. I tried using the new skin post-upgrade and quite liked it -- until I moused for the scrollbar, and found I had to actively search for it as it's so faint. Straight back to Classic -- which then had two "new tab" buttons post-install.

Shoddy, and the sort of basic UI bugs which should have been sorted out between a RC and final.

Opera Link is also not very useful -- I somehow ended up with two lots of most of my bookmarks and folders when syncing with standard settings for the very first time.

PixelDevil Friday, June 13, 2008 9:28:33 AM

the Opera 9.5 is a big disappointment. very sad to see such a quality erosion in Opera builds.this is just a beta build as the number of bugs has gone up. many sites not working properly ( gmail, metacafe, linkedin, facebook) This hurriedly released version by Opera to gain some brownie points over FF has backfired.

lots of users in forum complaining about many issues ranging from cache not working properly, high memory consumption, importing of files failing, flash sites not working. the list is endless.

it is very sad to see Opera like this.

lampacz Friday, June 13, 2008 9:36:27 AM

Hello,

using build 2042(official 9.5) on x86_64, 2.6.25.4:

13320 lmp 39 19 103m 5196 3992 R 100 0.3 1335:10 operapluginwrap

operapluginwrap again using 100% cpu.

János, Vinczevinczej Friday, June 13, 2008 9:52:19 AM

Whilst I use the new 9.50 final, I can feel the new improvements.

The stabilitiy and speed did grow very strongly. It isn't without bugs, but summarized, it's a very good release. I hope, that next builds will be even better. up

Somiknight Friday, June 13, 2008 10:22:45 AM

Never wrote here, but now i must, besides tripple click not selecting text as in previous version, what is more annoying to me is www.dota-league.com, cant enter comments in sig games, area where text should be written is non-clickable.

Mikhail Zaytsevmihmanz Friday, June 13, 2008 10:42:28 AM

New skin is maybe not so bad for Vista or Zune Theme for XP, but, guys, have you checked the statictics of OS usage and how your new skin looks on other OS than Vista??? Why have you deleted classic theme form installation package? New skin makes package bigger with more than 1,2Mb (Final - 8,51Mb; while 10034 is 7,23Mb). Forget about "small" and "compact".
I think you should include survey in uninstallation process:
"Please, say what is the reason of your decision to uninstall Opera 9.50 Final:
1. New "beautiful" skin and other "improvements" over classic UI that every Opera user adores.
2. A lot of bugs, even more than in some weekly 9.50 builds (9.50 beta2 somehow feels even better), so it simply doesn't work correctly with the most of my beloved sites.
3. Both reason 1 and reason 2."
My God, where's Scandinavian quality in 9.50 Final and who's said that Scandinavian design tradition is black and white design of funeral and sorrow. They call it "the most beautiful browser", how's interesting...
Is Opera the only browser where the color of tabs panel is much different than the colors of other panels? Genius idea... possibly.
I foresee bad reviews from critics.

johnnysaucepn Friday, June 13, 2008 10:46:18 AM

Originally posted by PixelDevil:

lots of users in forum complaining about many issues ranging from cache not working properly, high memory consumption, importing of files failing, flash sites not working. the list is endless.


These are the kinds of problems that people report on all browsers, in all builds. There's nothing new or specific to 9.5 here.

AlexeyI Friday, June 13, 2008 10:57:26 AM

Does'not work http://old.nomika.ru/ (listbox, refresh)

ps. opera 9.25 worked fine

postas Friday, June 13, 2008 11:19:08 AM

http://www.stern.de/ is not working. please do something!!!!!

Aurelijus Valeišaaurelijus Friday, June 13, 2008 11:23:42 AM

Also there is a strange problem with Google Analytics login page. After logging in it opens as a popup.

Tolque53Tolque53 Friday, June 13, 2008 11:26:13 AM

@johnnysaucepn:
Sites that used to work fine and do not any more are a complete failure for a new browser.
So many people liked what I showed them in Opera, but their sites did not work. Some even started using Opera, but went back to IE or firefox because they could not make Opera work on specific sites they frequented. That is why workarounds like masking a browser do not really help. If you have to explain something to a user that he does not understand, he will keep using another browser.
Just imagine you buy a car, and its really impressive with the fuel that is intended for it. Then you come home, and you cannot get that special fuel. Your car manufacturer explains to you how to make the car work with normal fuel, pressing a button here and there, pulling something hidden in the engineroom... would you keep that car?
Opera failed to make progress in market share, it is beginning to get surpassed by Safari on Windows, too, because its faster and simply works.
I really would like to make the suggestion to use another rendering machine that other browsers already use. Would help getting away from the trouble described above.
For me personally, I can live with most of the problems, I can work around. It still is better for me personally to have a high speed cache, great working mouse gestures (I cannot get them in this quality on Firefox) and I am used to Opera Mail. But winning users will not work, I predict. And yes, I foresee miserable critics like a speed comparison I read some weeks ago that Opera 9.5 beta lost to Safari and Firefox (3 beta, of course) - in all terms.

Cryptobionika Friday, June 13, 2008 11:28:47 AM

OPERA DEVELOPERS: Sorry for typing in capital letters, but I do not need a wild guessing of forum members, I need a professional answer to this one.
How can I PROPERLY prevent images from transferring to "transfers" window? All this "go to transfer -> view" I heard already. I need to know how can I make it the way it was in Opera 9.2.
I do realize that you believe hitting people in the face with "transfer" window and garbaging transfers is a good idea, but I certainly disagree.
If I disable transfer window popping up, it will not pop up at all, and I want to disable transfers for IMAGES ONLY.

I don't want the images to show up in transfers, I don't want transfers to show up when I save images, and I dont want to "download" images, just simply save them.

Why making it all so annoying? And why not make an option to set it like in Opera 9.2?! Anyway, since I save a lot of images, I simply cannot use Opera 9.50, even though I REALLY want to. I'd GREATLY appreciate any help. Any proper way to solve the problem. Thank you.

For those who didn't understand: no, my question has NOT been answered properly. Hiding transfer window is NOT a way to solve the problem. And it's a problem in my book.

And don't say I'm annoying. I'm using this program, I like it, and I need to know how to properly adapt it to my needs. It's only natural.

Tolque53Tolque53 Friday, June 13, 2008 11:33:17 AM

Hm, stern.de works fine here. And fast.

johnnysaucepn Friday, June 13, 2008 11:52:37 AM

Originally posted by Tolque53:

@johnnysaucepn:
Sites that used to work fine and do not any more are a complete failure for a new browser.


That's not the same kind of issue he was talking about. He's talking about issue specific to his installation, or his other installed software. Those kinds of problems are common across all browsers, and must be learned about on a case-by-case basis. Unless they truly affect the majority of users and have an obvious source, they're not show stoppers.

Mikhail Zaytsevmihmanz Friday, June 13, 2008 11:55:16 AM

If you ask what is the best browser, even today with a big disappointment with Opera 9.50 Final (well, you know I use 10034 now and I love it), I say with no doubt Opera is the best. But if you ask me what is the most beautiful browser with modern and slick view, I say with no doubt Safari is (though FF3 is looking not bad too, now for me its default skin is better than Opera950F's).

skydart Friday, June 13, 2008 12:08:02 PM

I found a "show-stopper" bug for me. I develop Joomla websites, and, with this release of Opera, I am not able to edit any of my Joomla pages. This could be a problem being that there are anywhere between 20 adn 40 million Joomla websites out there right now. I actually found this out just two days ago while running the latest RC candidate.

AxelAxxL Friday, June 13, 2008 12:13:32 PM

Congratulations, Opera! smile

EricJH Friday, June 13, 2008 12:14:46 PM

Originally posted by zix:

So i can't open it. Instead I have to save it, change the filetype and open it.

Change the way how Opera treats the Mime type here: Tools --> Preferences --> Advanced --> Downloads --> type PDF in the quick search field --> now you can edit it.

pincopallino Friday, June 13, 2008 12:16:36 PM

New bugs in (signatures in email client), broken what was running fine (favicons), unexpected keyboad shortcut changes (why CTRL+ALT+V has become CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+U? FOUR keys!), long awaited features still missing (email client: attachment stripping and delete from server)... and I am still exploring 9.50. Developers look like politicians: far away from the daily citizen / user furious

Pieter Van NuffelMuts Friday, June 13, 2008 12:37:34 PM

Nice work! Flash finally works again on linux! smile

But sometimes the (fav)icons from the bookmarks on my personal bar dissapear when I click on them. sad

Screenshot: http://muts.sin.khk.be/opera-bug-2.png
Bug number: 338030

Willy Buenollyborj Friday, June 13, 2008 12:46:24 PM

ZZZIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGG Goes Krestel. Opera has never been faster. Thank you very much for the new version of "The Fastest Browser on Earth!"

catapulted Friday, June 13, 2008 1:12:17 PM

On Mac OS X, when I copy a URL from Komodo Edit and paste into Opera's address bar, I am always redirected to "http://treck.as.http.de", no matter what encoding is set in Komdo Edit.


For example, if I type "http://google.com" into Komodo and copy/paste to Opera, the URL mysteriously becomes "http://http://google.com", which then effectively yields "http://treck.as.http.de" in the end (I have German as my primary system language).

However, a copy/paste from TextEdit.app or Smultron correctly opens Google.


I do not know why this is (might have to do with the clipboard format or the encoding ?), but when pasting the URL from Komodo, Opera correctly shows the address bar drop-down list with Google sites.


Googling yielded some results that mentioned "treck.as.http.de" as a redirection target but I found no explanation...

Is this some weird kind of 1337 hax0r east0r eggz or what ?


PS: @manwe_:
Thanks a lot, re-encoding the client certificate worked.
However, I still believe that Opera should support client certificates with RC4 certificate part as this does not impose any significant security risks (3DES is used for the key).

itsjustarumour Friday, June 13, 2008 1:37:52 PM

[RANT] I've been using Opera as my main browser since version 3.0 and have been using 9.5 since the first beta, and I just have to add my voice to the many on here that say Opera 9.5 has just been rushed out way, way too early in what I think is just a mis-placed desire to "beat" Firefox 3.0. Two days as "RC"? Crazy! This "final" is barely "beta 3", I'm using it on Ubuntu Linux 8.04 Hardy and experience many problems and performance issues, and this "final" is much worse than "beta 2"!!! :-( Within five minutes, it had locked up completely on the BBC website, and within half an hour I'd experienced two completely new bugs that weren't there in "beta 2"! I don't want to sound too negative, I've always LOVED the Opera philosophy and been a huge "Opera advocate" to friends, family and work colleagues, but I'm just really really disappointed with this release. There are so many awesome features, the "Opera Synchronisation" and download manager for example are fantastic. With another 3 months work this could have been the greatest browser ever, but ... its just been released way too soon. Its not ready! [/RANT]

itsjustarumour Friday, June 13, 2008 1:39:30 PM

Opps - moderators, thanks for deleting my duplicate posts, and thanks to dylanfan and A R Bridgewater for pointing out the "delete button" ;-)

I've been getting 500 server error for hours now when trying to access this blog, looks like the Opera infrastructure is having a very busy day...

János, Vinczevinczej Friday, June 13, 2008 1:47:05 PM

@ Filip007, # 12. June 2008, 18:17:40:
http://www.compusa.com/ (overlapping head):
Mask as FF! smile
https://www.cool-pc.org/ (Very long load time....:
Mask as FF! smile

I think, these sites "know" Opera only up to 9.27 bigsmile

Luchio Friday, June 13, 2008 1:51:43 PM

@Cryptobionika

To answer your question, no, there is no setting to deny images from showing up in the transfer window. Sorry.

If you use the "Show transfers in background" it is less annoying. Personnally, I always have the transfer tab open and locked down and I use the "don't popup" setting.

Liu Yunliu-yun Friday, June 13, 2008 2:03:19 PM

Thanks for the final version and all the hardwork.

However, this build is such a rush that some things doesn't work for me.

1. Quicktime plugin almost doesn't work at all.
2. When trying to "Save Linked Content As", Opera has a 50% chance of crashing.


Other than those, it is working generally fine and thanks for the new interface.

Gölök Zoltán Leenderdt Franco BudayOrff Friday, June 13, 2008 3:14:45 PM

A few new bugs on some Web 2.0 apps; but a huge improvement except loading this page or My Opera in general and speed suffers as time goes by; not vert good stanima and memory management.

Andrew G.consalt Friday, June 13, 2008 3:17:12 PM

Opssss....
In Opera9.27 I can select url as text by clicking at the end of text. In 9.50 this feature doesn't work. Fix it please.

ElectriX2 Friday, June 13, 2008 3:28:56 PM

Login form on this page is broken with this last build... whistle
And I must confirm problem witch showing icons of some pages in 'personal bar'... down

You had to wait longer before releasing final. Too many bugs by my opinion... bug

But, anyway, great job! yes

chivitli Friday, June 13, 2008 3:33:21 PM

After some surfing, Opera was using 50% of processor (C2D@2GHz), although all pages were closed! No page was open, but processor usage was constantly around 50%, here is screenshot: http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9981/screenshotcx9.jpg

nicetry Friday, June 13, 2008 3:40:46 PM

Congratulations!

Not to rain on the parade, but...the bug that refuses to disable the Master Password that I only wanted to use for 2 days while snoops were visiting is still there, and on top of that, all my passwords seemed to have disappeared (perhaps related to Mast Pass issue, don't have time to research why the wand suddenly broke). The username is there...you know, the info I can find in confirmation emails anyway...but the stuff I'll actually forget is inaccessible. On a positive note, the bug that forced text-only buttons (no, it was not set that way in preferences) is fixed as far as I can tell...I was getting tired of no graphics!

***To the Opera team: I want to reiterate that wand's inability to be cleanly backed up and merged is a serious, serious issue. I'm tired of these hit-and-miss will-it-or-won't-it work worries that come every time I update opera, move opera to a different computer, reinstall, and test a beta. Never mind the fun surprise of finding a site I rarely visit (and have no chance of remember username/pass) is no longer in my wand file. I have so many wand files I can't keep them straight...I only need 1!***

rseiler Friday, June 13, 2008 4:01:41 PM

It seems that My Opera sites, like this one, continue to be as suicidal as some Opera users have been these last couple days, so in the interest of stamping out harakiri, are there any alternate addresses for accessing these sites that would workaround the hanging or displaying of proxy errors? Now let's see if this actually submits.

Oddly enough, Opera.com seems fine throughout this.

ElectriX2 Friday, June 13, 2008 4:55:00 PM

Flash player plugin seems to be broken in Opera. I can se only plain text (of course I tried to reinstall both). Anybody can confirm?

for example:
http://www.tomtom.com/products/product.php?ID=402&Category=0&Lid=10&gclid=CNCerefx8ZMCFQuGugod6BmjVg

or

http://www.dsl.cz/

M4CH1N3pp-layouts Friday, June 13, 2008 5:01:37 PM

well... showstoppers fixed. sites I had to open with FF3 I can open w/ Opera now. good.

now, my champions, make dragonfly editable. hey, it looks and works sometimes better than firebug. i know editable stuff is hard as hell, because i code myself. but that would be _it_:)

well, and about acid3 test again. i do understand, that it's not the most important feature. some people treat is as just... numbers. i don't know. acid2 was to test if the browser handles CSS2. if it did, even if it was not quite complete, it passed the test. acid3 is about javascript. when browser fais, what does it mean? some poperly written javascript code would not work?

and, do really please replay, what was it with 100% score some months ago? fake? never really happened? it seems kinda unfair, or rather ridiculous. everyone can claim their special top-secret browser scores 100 in acid3. or even 120 smile

next question: when will be Opera CSS3 compliant? (to the extent of Safari 3.1.1 now)

kirk fontaine Friday, June 13, 2008 5:10:46 PM

I do love my new and now default browser but I just want to iterate that i do love it even with its annoying quirks
I just got back on my opera site after logging in a total of 6 times just today -what gives with this I know that this cryptic password generator is for security and privacy reasons but there needs to be a better and less annoying way to get logged in -for the love of god !
So I finally get in but want to let the proper developers to maybe look at this annoying issue for future versions and/or builds . Any one else have this issue?cry

Now I want to comment on the new DTV conversion issue. I did purchase the digital stream dtv converter for my TV's and I am satisfied with the result(clearer picture) but I did lose some of my favorite channels in th process and I just got this article in my email and the contents mirror my concerns with the program. I hope they iron out some of the problems as the deadline approaching. Any one have this issue and if so what resources are available to address this issues outline in this article eek
http://wdef.com/blog/digital_tv_converter_coupons_rendered_worthless_by_lack_of_supply_expiration/06/2008

zorroo08 Friday, June 13, 2008 5:12:02 PM

I was hoping that the final build was stable and fast .
It's a very pitty but it isn't , and I'm very disapointed how things went with Opera . As a matter of fact it irritates me that so many sites don't work and have to switch to FF.Even some functions in Opera are not properly , shame ,shame .

ustunozgur Friday, June 13, 2008 5:12:55 PM

Thank you!

MZBulletProofED Friday, June 13, 2008 5:24:03 PM

speed dial is a real mess with this "final", horrible. wrong picture, wrong adresses, problemes with the bookmarks etc..

ElectriX2 Friday, June 13, 2008 5:24:39 PM

I was hoping that the final build was stable and fast .
It's a very pitty but it isn't , and I'm very disapointed how things went with Opera . As a matter of fact it irritates me that so many sites don't work and have to switch to FF.Even some functions in Opera are not properly , shame ,shame .


Complete truth. I have to agree with every each word with you. This is not a final version, this is just early beta with too many bugs left. Now, I'm switching back to 9.27... sad

ElectriX2 Friday, June 13, 2008 5:28:36 PM

and, do really please replay, what was it with 100% score some months ago? fake? never really happened? it seems kinda unfair, or rather ridiculous. everyone can claim their special top-secret browser scores 100 in acid3. or even 120


Read here:
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2008/03/28/public-acid3-build
But this special build is too unstable for normal use wait

skye11 Friday, June 13, 2008 5:35:30 PM

Analysis of Opera 9.5 release strategy...

Opera's quick-release of 9.5 was and will prove to be a very CLEVER move, because:

1. it gives Opera a head start for attention & publicity (media coverage - hopefully) to recruit new users before FF-3 is released. Then when FF is released, people will see that it's just copy of Opera, and result in disappointment that it offers NO unique innovations.

2. it positions Opera to be able to be first again to release a "NEW and IMPROVED 9.51 upgrade", after FF-3 is released and FF users find themselves (potentially) unimpressed - and gives Opera a sooner attempt to satisfy its (and FF-3's) unhappy users.

3. it allows Kestrel to be associated as the "OLD" (pre-FF3) version, thus positioning Opera to already be working on an 'improved' version, while the world awaits FF-3. Releasing Kestrel after FF-3 would regrettably associate Kestrel as the "new" (post-FF3) version. This way, we are now heading towards 9.51, before FF-3 even appears - very smart, even with a yet imperfect 9.5.

4. All you complainers have no idea what Opera might (and long been) working on for their new version (ie. continual bug fixes & performance improvements, new innovations & exciting features, etc.). You'll see, after the new version(s) is released, all your complaints about 9.5 will be followed by surprise & elation, and profuse apologies for ever doubting Opera. Opera devs have have proved they possess the ingenuity & creativity to push innovation to the next levels and continue producing a high quality product.


As for FF 3 - BORING. whistle zzz rip
I will not install FF-3, but after just watching a couple videos on FF-3, it appears there are NO new innovating features (apart from the claimed memory & performance improvements). They merely conveniently copied all of Opera's innovations - ie. keyword quick search, history search, etc. And, FF requires Add-ons (ie. TabMix) to attempt to mimic what Opera already does standard, out of the box.

Opera is very sleek, retains that exotic sports-car look & feel (after a simple skin switch/tweak), and functionality & performance. FF-3 on the other hand, still looks & feels ugly & clunky. I would love to see Opera gain a larger user-base, but I actually enjoy that it's the underdog, while being such a powerhouse.

After several years of using & tweaking Opera, I'm extremely happy with it. It is the FASTEST and most solid and secure of all previous releases. The occasional temporary annoyances are trivial, knowing that more continual improvements & innovations are coming. knight

Soon, all you complainers will eventually realize that releasing Opera 9.5 now was a truly clever move. sherlock
Stay tuned for an improved 9.51! wait

ayespy Friday, June 13, 2008 5:39:00 PM

@ElectriX2:

Nope. Works perfectly on XP SP3

@zorroo08: That type of comment is utterly useless. First of all, you don't give your platform - which is critial to solving anything and everything. Second, for 99% of us, it's stable and fast. You give no clue what migh be different about your setup so the devs can make allowances for varying conditions. Third, WHAT site(s) "don't work?" HOW "don't" they "work?" Did you submit bug reports? (I'm betting not - easier to yell nothing works). "Even some functions in Opera..." WHAT functions? What's wrong with them?

Geez, what a total waste of perfectly good webspace.

At least when I bitch, I'm specific. Then maybe the devs can fix something.

Pawel Osmolskigofftiddums Friday, June 13, 2008 5:43:08 PM

just would like to add, opera hasn't crashed on me yet and i'm running on vista sp1 with all the trimmings.

thanks again guys, i hope you continue to make this product the best you possibly can.

stay focused!

rseiler Friday, June 13, 2008 6:00:28 PM

@skye11, so much of what you wrote can be read two ways: one sincere, one satirical, that you have me all confused.

It's a great way to spin the situation, that's for sure, and I must congratulate you on trying to diffuse all the sniper fire. Bill and Hillary could have certainly used someone with your abilities--but it's too late now.

otheos Friday, June 13, 2008 6:05:39 PM

Just one quick on Opera Sync:

I used it once when testing 9.50 alpha and it then stored my bookmarks and stuff online.

Now I need to delete all that online and sync with my new bookmarks and stuff.

There's no way. If I hit sync I get a mix of what was then online plus what is now my bookmarks and stuff. Thanks for the _before_sync opera6.adr backup file.

So anyone knows how to chose whether I need my opera to sync with Opera Sync OR Opera Sync to sync with my opera instance. Otherwise it's a dog to use.

At least some online editing (deleting) would be great.

Thanks.

PS. Checking stability on Vista64 wich was terrible with 9.27

Keep it up!

piotersu Friday, June 13, 2008 6:09:37 PM

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/ still doesn't work in Opera 9.5, it wokred in 9.2x. The issue has been reported before in the weekly builds.

DrDanny Friday, June 13, 2008 6:18:49 PM

I'm having a problem with content-blocking: it seems to create an entry of just "*" which means _nothing_ is displayed, ever. smile Not what I intended.
Anybody?

Luchio Friday, June 13, 2008 6:24:35 PM

@otheos about opera sync

I agree that the syncing DIRECTION is confusing, and often does stuff you don't want when setting it up the first time on the second computer...

I would also like to know more about this.

For the second part of your post, yes, you can edit your bookmarks online, at http://my.opera.com/YOURUSERNAME/account/link/ , but it's somewhat cumbersome to use.

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