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Opera 9.51 RC 2

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More fixes in the pipeline for 9.51! As always, we appreciate constructive feedback. Main focus was on stability and the installer - some issues that users have encountered when upgrading from 9.27 should now be finally solved.

Changelog:
  • Security status should be now always correctly set when navigating from HTTP to HTTPS.
  • Fixed an issue related to OCSP and CRLs that would lower security level - Yngve has a detailed article. You'll have to manually check for updates to activate this fix.
  • Fixed an issue in the content blocker that might cause no page to be loaded anymore. Homer: Doh!
  • Fixed a crash on Yahoo! Mail (now really!).
  • Fixed a crash with userjs.
  • Fixed a crash related to Dragonfly.
  • Fixed a crash on Print Preview.
  • Fixed an issue that caused unwanted line breaks in rich text editors.
  • Fixed loading of stylesheets when navigating in history.


UNIX specific:
  • Fixed an issue that would prevent pages from closing on Qt4 builds.
  • Fixed saving of changes to plugin configuration.


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Rafał Miłecki 27. June 2008, 21:32

Thanks for plugins work! Flash seems to work great under Qt4 build!

Alexs 27. June 2008, 21:42

Originally posted by Rijk:

Please add some details, and if it is not a regression from 9.50, it is not relevant to testing the release candidate for 9.51.


It's old regression bug from 9.50 snapshots build. I know this is in BTS, but i don't know the number...

nils 27. June 2008, 21:43

bluehost.to still not working

petersayce 27. June 2008, 21:50

Err, what does BTS stand for:o

ayespy 27. June 2008, 22:15

Bug tracking system

M-Z 27. June 2008, 22:37

Next version without properly visible active tab in Windows Native skin...

rseiler 27. June 2008, 22:37

Originally posted by Rijk:

Please add some details, and if it is not a regression from 9.50, it is not relevant to testing the release candidate for 9.51.


For future reference, when is it OK to talk about problems relative to 9.27 or even 9.50 betas? Because it seems that with any release of 9.51 thus far they haven't been entertained here even when they outweigh recent regressions.

Will it be OK with 9.52? Surely they're not going to have to wait until next year with v10, right?

Also on the subject of testing, I'm unclear why the list of fixes presented today wouldn't have naturally been listed as Known Issues in earlier builds. They look important and widespread enough to me, and they were certainly known.

zoquete 27. June 2008, 23:04

Fatal, thank you, I have corrected the testcase, but the bug is still there.

I have deleted so many rows as possible by making the testcase and have forgotten this rowspan in the last row.

Rijk 27. June 2008, 23:04

Originally posted by rseiler:

For future reference, when is it OK to talk about problems relative to 9.27 or even 9.50 betas?

If we ask for general feedback. Currently, we are trying to release an update that fixes some serious issues. So we want to be sure it only contains improvements over 9.50. We are quite aware that not all wishes and problems that have been mentioned in the past year are going to be solved with 9.51. A "Release Candidate" means that we've made up our mind about what stuff is important enough (and sometimes easy enough) to get fixed right now. At other times, when a build is not called a Release Candidate, more general feedback can be useful. But even then if there is too much of it, it can drown out new serious issue that really need attention. It takes quite some effort to find the useful bits (for the current focus we have) in the comments on this and the previous RC...

There's the forums to discuss everything you like and don't like about Opera 9.50.

Luis Carlos Carvalho 27. June 2008, 23:06

@Rijk: This site is the most used in Portugal and is not important? Add descriptions to the photos we do is upload the daily life .. Portugal has thousands of people .. thousands who may be potential users of the Opera. Concerned as much with Yahoo Mail or even with Gmail and Facebook why? Why are most used. I do not use, but I agree with the correction. The hi5 is the most used in Portugal and the correction will not be important?

Steve Darken 27. June 2008, 23:12

Regression from 9.50 > Wand button stay active after the login process [bug-341841]

skye11 27. June 2008, 23:12

Fixed a crash with userjs.
Fixed loading of stylesheets when navigating in history.


might these fixes be the reason this build feels a bit quicker & smoother


Originally posted by Rijk:

we are trying to release an update that fixes some serious issues


this (and last) build definately seems noticably improved

thanks :up:

Luis Carlos Carvalho 27. June 2008, 23:16

@Rijk: There is a lot of topics in the forum about the difficulty of viewing pdf's, and why we posted the topic.

Not only am I just more or another. It is a bug that Opera has. I'm also here to use the latest version of Adobe Acrobat. And the use WinXP SP3.
But the same computer and in Opera 9.27, the PDF's work properly through the plug.

Something is wrong.

sebt 27. June 2008, 23:16

Thanks for the build! I'm hoping the regular segfaults near startup (when checking mail) are fixed in Linux.

Seb :smile:

zoquete 27. June 2008, 23:29

The list of Search-Engines in the combo should not depend on the with of the search-engine-name. Looks terrible if the name is longer. Please make it overflow: hidden; the combo has to have the same with as the seach field - 150px.

serach bug

Geoff Gerlach 27. June 2008, 23:31

Thanks Team
I logged into my bank - Westpac - with RC2 and saw the correct security notification in the task bar. It's been a while since I have seen that happen in Opera. Nice and reassuring work, many thanks.

He then quietly breaths a sigh of relief.

alf245 28. June 2008, 00:01

@zoquete:

I strongly oppose this proposition.

Jerry L 28. June 2008, 00:57

Hello, when I installed this version it showed "Finis" after it was finished downloading and I had to click on this "Finis" button.

alf245 28. June 2008, 01:11

@zoquete

I don't want the width of the search field dropdown to be decreased. But this is not the right place to discuss things like that anyway. Please read the "Desktop Team FAQ", section III, paragraphs A & F.

FataL 28. June 2008, 01:35

Originally posted by ilyabirman:

In 9.5 you have introduced a bug when "Reload image" on the popup menu would just ignore your click in 1/3 cases.

Ilya, have you reported this bug? If so, what the bug #?

Rijk 28. June 2008, 01:52

Originally posted by Darken:

Regression from 9.50 > Wand button stay active after the login process [bug-341841]

I can see that in 9.50 as well, but it depends on the website. Happens on my.opera.com at least.

Originally posted by Darken:

@Rijk: This site is the most used in Portugal and is not important?

Did I indicate anywhere that things that don't get fixed in 9.51 are not important? But you filed this bug this friday, I'm not sure how you think this can be fixed a few hours laters, whatever it is. I haven't investigated it. A test account would be rather useful... If it isn't a regression from 9.50, it will not harm any Portuguese user if we release 9.51 to replace 9.50, right?

eddib 28. June 2008, 01:53

um...

i get this message in the download window
"it is not sure wether this file is safe, are you sure you want to download it?"

FataL 28. June 2008, 02:09

This is not regression from 9.5, but I think this is a regression from 9.27
Try to download file from this page (enter some e-mail and click Download button): http://site.xara.com/downloads/getdetails.asp
I found that transfer stopped almost immediately after start -- 800 bytes was downloaded.
This is not the first time I experienced this with Opera 9.5
Anyone else?

FataL 28. June 2008, 02:34

Still get wrong file extensions when downloading files.
Just get HTML extension, when it supposed to be RAR from http://ifolder.ru

Morten 28. June 2008, 02:51

For the records...

Originally posted by Rijk:

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf opens just fine here. Only delay is in Acrobat starting the plugin, that always takes some time when it is the first in a session.


Well, clicking that link resulted in freezing. Giving Opera 9.51 the benefit of doubt, I'll blame my old win xp PC.

However, it would benefit mainstream users if a message did pop up explaining the delay... caused by site loading a plugin, applet, etc.

(new users would think Opera is slow)

zoquete 28. June 2008, 03:00

alf245, I did not want to discusse anything, I justo wanted to point at this, I hope, easy to fix bugs. I expect the same behavor as by addressbar-dropdown.

Even if these bugs have lower priority they are very visible and should be fixed in 9.51, when they have not been fixed in 9.5.

Stop discussing with me, this is not the right place for it. Thanks

NeXaen 28. June 2008, 03:47

this bug is not fixed yet (an URLfilter.ini issue) :
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=235823
bug-343427
bug-337253

Raafel 28. June 2008, 04:28

Thanks for fixing some bugs I reported.

Still...

This site still crashes (since 9.5 RC1): http://www.cinemaemcena.com.br/Ficha_filme.aspx?id_critica=7192&id_filme=2444&aba=critica

And the following bugs are NOT related with websites; they're Opera core/app bugs:

- If you open a new window, you can open how much transfers tabs you want in the first window. Really weird.

- CTRL and link click still doesn't open the link in the same tab. But 9.2x does.

- Sometimes the Personal Bar bookmark icons dissapear without any sense. See:

Normal:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/Delerue/normal.png

Bug (I can't reproduce it when I want):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/Delerue/bug.png


The following bugs are related with websites:

- The Opera Snapshot FAQ has serious problems with text selection and copy: http://snapshot.opera.com/faq.html#packages;

- www.framebuffer.com.br site can't post a message seeing the font formatation tool bar;

xpatze85x 28. June 2008, 04:30

myspace menu still not working

Steve Darken 28. June 2008, 04:57

Originally posted by Rijk:

I can see that in 9.50 as well, but it depends on the website. Happens on my.opera.com at least.


Arfff, you are right, this bug exists in 9.50 final build (tested on digg + my.opera.com). Homer: Doh!

rseiler 28. June 2008, 05:10

Originally posted by FataL:

http://site.xara.com/downloads/getdetails.asp
I found that transfer stopped almost immediately after start -- 800 bytes was downloaded.


Here too, though resuming it works, or grabbing the actual file URL and starting over works. I don't think I've seen this happen elsewhere.

Phoenix 28. June 2008, 05:30

Right click link->"Go to URL" needs to come back! :yes:

When you right click some text in Opera 9.5, you can choose Go to Web Address. But if the text is in a link, that option is gone.:yikes:

This is lame. Why would Opera Devs wanna remove such a useful feature.!!??:furious:

Fiddling with the menu file to get this functionality is not the way forward. :no:

This has changed for the worse in 9.5. :frown:

zoquete 28. June 2008, 05:39

w2phoenix,

If the text allready is a link, no need to use right click. Just click on it with left mouse button.

rseiler 28. June 2008, 06:15

Regression/dubious decision: I've noticed for the last couple builds that Opera is automatically installing a quicklaunch shortcut icon over on the left side of Windows next to IE, Show Desktop, etc.

(This is not to be confused with the tray icon on the right side, which signifies Opera is running.)

It's bad form to do that without asking the user first during the install.

Pedrogo 28. June 2008, 06:42

Thanks...

I love Opera

zoquete 28. June 2008, 06:56

rseiler, use classic installer if you use xp and not vista.

Thomas Chah 28. June 2008, 07:07

PDF-XChange Viewer plugin doesn't work for me on Opera 9.50 and currently 9.51rc2.
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=236868&t=1214636818&page=1#comment2613768

It works fine on 9.10 and 9.27 though.

Please, could you fix it on 9.51?

rseiler 28. June 2008, 07:13

Originally posted by zoquete:

rseiler, use classic installer if you use xp and not vista.


You mean this is something they've implemented with the MSI installer only? Why?

I'm on Vista.

Mikhail Zaytsev 28. June 2008, 07:17

Why has Opera International more than one "same languages". For example, russian language packs? Which Russian should i choose in "Language" and what are the differences? Can't you simply leave only one language pack for the same languages?

zoquete 28. June 2008, 07:28

rseiler, I am using the classic installer, Opera never installed a quickstart icon. I have heard msi makes much more in the OS than classic, thats why I hate msi-installer, which makes only bad things in my XP. Since I use classic installer I have no problems to have more [different] Opera versions installed.

So, short, yes, this is msi-installer-"feature".

John Barnett 28. June 2008, 07:32

How do you guys keep track of the problems listed here :confused: I have great difficulty. Would it not be more officiant to have a system where each problem found had a title and if anyone found the answer or the same problem they could post into a thread ? I suppose it would be more like a forum or news group, I find this Blog type posting very hard to follow.

Just my two penny worth, take it or leave it :D

zoquete 28. June 2008, 07:35

mihmanz, there is only One russian file in the installer. Only english, spanish, norwagian? a chines have to different versions and it is sure necesorry.

For example in Spanish of Latin America are used different terms for things, and the language differs in some words a lot. That's the reason for 2 versions of "the same language". But in fact the languega is not the same, even if it still is en, es, zh. Zh-tw is chines of thai-wan.

Justas 28. June 2008, 07:37

>Security status should be now always correctly set when navigating from HTTP to HTTPS.

Dunno if that was an issue, but beatport.com is finnaly usable :yes: Thank you guys :beer:

malsumis 28. June 2008, 08:40

mihmanz, about that PSN site, yeah, it used to work. When they weren't sniffing for browsers, now things have changed. Now theyre gently lying to you, that your browser can't display the site properly, when in fact, it can. You should use site preferences, network tab, change identification(mask as) to Firefox.

Rijk 28. June 2008, 08:41

Originally posted by rseiler:

Regression/dubious decision: I've noticed for the last couple builds that Opera is automatically installing a quicklaunch shortcut icon over on the left side of Windows next to IE, Show Desktop, etc. (This is not to be confused with the tray icon on the right side, which signifies Opera is running.)It's bad form to do that without asking the user first during the install.

Not having Vista, I'm not sure what you mean. Note that Opera doesn't ask for such things when you use the MSI installer to 'Upgrade', it will simply reuse the previous choices. If you use the option 'Seperate installation', even if you don'y actually change the file paths, you'll get the options again for where to install shortcuts.

Petr Reznicek 28. June 2008, 09:40

What about disapearing favicons in personal bar? It's fixed yet? I tryed 9.51 RC1, but still disapearing.

phreax9802 28. June 2008, 10:21

Facebook chat, status and notifications bar (the one popping below) keeps disconnecting.

satkata 28. June 2008, 10:35

Thanks for the fixes:

"Fixed an issue that would prevent pages from closing on Qt4 builds."

But I still have problems loading http://www.cnr.com/

Opera shows a part of the page, but does not show the list of available packages.
Navigating within the page is not working too.

I tried the page with Firefox and had no problems.

I tried editing "site preferences" with Identify as FF or Mask as FF, which sometimes makes the page load correctly, but had no luck in this case.

John Barnett 28. June 2008, 10:46

I don't think the thread display is working properly under Mail. When I select Label (for example To Do) and I have 10 items labelled and I know some are part of a conversation, selecting the thread option dose not show the messages in the Feed as a thread.Same happens in M2

Can anyone confirm this please.

ThArGos 28. June 2008, 10:56

Thanks for the build!

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