I'm not either of the things you are looking for, but I've never wanted to be so badly until this moment.

Even if I was a software developer worth enough to join, I wouldn't be able to keep a secret :-D

Originally posted by AVL:

I can't tell you exactly what's being developed in this top-secret Opera base, but it's technology that's able to transform the browser as we know it, using the latest computer hardware to our advantage.

top-secret as CUDA for opera ?

Mail / Desktop Developers :
- Experience with calendar protocols and technologies

Hummm, it seems to me Opera browser will soon have a calendar in it....

3D Web Page Shooter based on DirectX 11...
Quest: Search the Holy Grail (feat. Google)
Google Maps Live (feat. Microsoft Flight Simulator and Google)
...

Damn... I was always waiting for this oportunity, and now... I can't I will spread the top secret word among my friends

sounds good

I guess it is the same as Opera Core, isn't it?

but it's technology that's able to transform the browser as we know it, using the latest computer hardware to our advantage.

Very cool. Can't wait for the first weekly build.....
I assume this will not be part of upcoming Kestrel. Is that a right stab at reality? Would it be Direct X 11 in Opera 11.....?

Implementing Direct X 11 in Linux and MacOS? Don't think so.

Originally posted by FoxM:

Implementing Direct X 11 in Linux and MacOS? Don't think so.

Just joking with numbers...

3D Browsing? Sounds promissing!

FUn.
Just when we hear that "Mozilla has unveiled a spectacular new concept browser, dubbed Aurora."

http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/08/06/1212223.shtml

Getting late?

recently I've stumbled across this Spolsky's article:

Top Five (Wrong) Reasons You Don't Have Testers

#3 is the best! :-)

It's 3D bugs shooter! They want to kill all bugs in the browser!

lol so its a joke for u peeps..... lol lol

any ways me not a SW developer but i can keep secretc if you want

Lol means lol. Get it?

Originally posted by tisme:

recently I've stumbled across this Spolsky's article:

Top Five (Wrong) Reasons You Don't Have Testers

#3 is the best! :-)

I completely agree! Although in my programming field is somehow difficult to find testers I will talk about this in my workplace...

>>>>>Here in the desktop team we are always looking at ways to make your browsing experience better.

If so, give for us EXTENSIONS for Opera !
Please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn. I am a software dev but I can't go so far. I live in France. Don't you have a secret base here too ?

"Lol means lol. Get it?: hhaaaahha RALMAO

Trolling removed.

FIX your browser first then think about new features.

stranded: haha, my thoughts exactly.

Too bad the Opera staff doesn't think that way (or at least those taking decisions). I guess "New Opera version - now with new features X and Y!" sounds better to the marketing team than "New Opera version - now fixed!".

Bad priorities... Too bad, since the browser has the potential to be much better. You know something is wrong when you spend more time on the (currently mostly useless) Acid3 than on severe regressions. But here too, marketing and bragging rights matter more than real life use and comfort.

ACID3 shows, what does not wark as expected. I see it very important for future development of Opera. For me Opera works 99,9%. I don't remember when it crashed last time.

Hypezor's link is a good sci-fi. I don't want this Aurora with 200? MB installer.

originally by FoxM:
> I will talk about this in my workplace...

I encourage everyone to talk about this at their workplaces. it should make for better software world for everyone.

but since you might be a developer yourself please mind that most important para is this one :-)

The QA department should be independent and powerful, it must not report to the development team, in fact, the head of QA should have veto power over releasing any software that doesn't meet muster.

not sure if the QA team is reading this blog (they gotta be prety busy with fielding bug reports ;-)

however, new features and/or the new platforms ain't that bad at all. they may bring the needed money and that will benefit for the desktop app as well.

As a user who always runs the latest development version of opera, I think it's mean to say that opera should just fix the browser, or that 9.5x is not as good as 9.2x. And I've been mean enough myself on occasion to say opera should just fix the browser. The simple truth is that 9.5x is better by far than 9.2x. It's not fair to deny this.

But there is some point to perfecting a superior product. The most important user problem with opera is that it is impossible to use it exclusively. Plain and simple. So if something needs to be fixed, that's what needs to be fixed.

There is development and there is qa. But it's almost as if there needs to be another department. Let's call it ca = compatibility assurance -- with the power to ensure that unless a final release is at least as functional as competitors in the internet world of mixed standards, it isn't final. It needs more work before the bleeding edge bunch goes to work.

Opera has no extensions -- no api, so far as I know. The objections are no doubt proprietary- and performance-related. Both objections are valid. Both need to be addressed. And both need to be overcome.

In the end, a browser needs to be able to do what a variety of users want it to do. I want a browser that performs the way opera 9.5x does. But I want to use it exclusively. So it must be broadly compatible with the major portals and other rogue sites. And it needs to facilitate my work or my play -- whatever. In my case it's work: research. in my case, I want something very like scrapbook and zotero. But that kind of flexibility can only come with an api, I'm sure. And it's opera's challenge to work out the performance and proprietary considerations that come into play.

Good news, always wanted to see rdfs read by it.

i wish i new more about software development, it would be exciting to help...im learning more every day, someday i'll be where you all are at, with some help...I will spread the word to my friends.

i like 3D Browsing idea

@stranded: please troll more!

Go Oper, go!!

... but remember also about OpenGIS standards and specifications for web mapping portals