Opera Desktop Team

9.60 beta 1 RC

By Tommy A. Olsentoman. Friday, September 5, 2008 3:05:00 PM

Thats right, Opera 9.6 is soon ready for its first beta flight. We have now frozen all features and only critical fixes go in. Really soon now, the beta will be released, but we want more feedback from you guys before we do so.

Changelog

Added Core version (currently "Presto/2.1.1") to the User-Agent header; all our products will include this feature soon
Sites using HTTP Auth are now saved in typed history
Added setting to prevent bookmarks from showing in the Address field auto-completion drop-down
Properly stop loading pages with iframes when closing the page or pressing stop
Fixed problem where dynamically added xml-stylesheet processing instructions were ignored
Removed the document property from iframe objects for compatibility with Gecko, WebKit, and the Acid3 test
Added support for the caller property on functions
Fixed yet another case of having to press the back button twice
Improvements to feed preview page
Made feed preview page template location customizable
Made reloading Speed Dial while offline actually reload all thumbnails
Fixed Opera Link issue where notes could end up blank after being synced
The Opera Link queue file is no longer created before using Link
The fraud protection dialog now works when using a proxy
Made it possible to remove Speed Dial search again by unchecking the "Use as default Speed Dial search"
Fixed text input on Windows Tablet PC Edition 2005
Fixed open/save of images in Opera Mail when using the image context menu
Made all top-level access points (except All Messages) selectable
Fixed a problem deleting drafts from the Drafts view
UNIX: Additional fixes to flash plugin handling. Freezes when using flash should now be mostly gone.

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Tamil # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:07:50 PM

mrd # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:08:07 PM

Seem to be progressing quickly; quicker than the run up to 9.5 even?

Good to see.

Ar1Pear1pe # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:08:23 PM

Thank you

mrd # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:08:43 PM

Beta RC Tamil, not Final RC. (Though an RC of a Beta does seem a bit... peculiar to me!)

lamarca lamarca # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:11:41 PM

thanks for the release candidate

wirusek # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:12:44 PM

thanks for the new build

Serpher # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:13:09 PM

yay

Øzikzakatak # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:18:43 PM

sounds new

cousin333 # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:22:50 PM

"Made all top-level access points (except All Messages) selectable"

Uhmm, what does that mean?

MaciejZarov # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:23:58 PM

Thx!

theonehorst # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:24:25 PM

Still no support for third party newsreaders

Tim AltmanJunyor # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:27:57 PM

@cousin333: It means you can click on access points like "Mailing Lists" to see all messages from mailling lists or "Attachments" to see all messages with attachments.

@theonehorst: Support for external feed clients will not be added to 9.60.

halabund # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:30:32 PM

Diacritics like vector signs are positioned incorrectly in MathML. This makes Opera practically unusable for viewing MathML pages ...

Is there a chance that this problem would be fixed soon?

Here's a test case: http://pastebin.com/f5c1e8ff3

Vladimyr IvanovVladimyr # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:30:53 PM

Still the loupe instead of Wikipedia search icon...

cousin333 # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:31:54 PM

Junyor: Why, it didn't work?

I thought, we now have the option not to show these elements in the Mail panel. Thanks for the quick answer anyway.

Tim AltmanJunyor # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:32:19 PM

@halabund and Vladimyr: Bug number?

@cousin333: Various reasons.

Vladimyr IvanovVladimyr # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:34:26 PM

No bug number... should I submit it?

EdwardMrBlueSky # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:35:37 PM

Great stuff as always! Thanx.

Dkbikeboydk # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:36:08 PM

Moderator note: See http://snapshot.opera.com/faq.html#where-rfe for information about submitting feature requests.

Idan AdarYtseJam # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:40:37 PM

bikeboydk, please read the blog post - NO MORE FEATURES IN 9.6 - Features freeze.

I guess feeds and other sync options will come in the future - maybe.

FavDjiXas # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:41:16 PM

So b/c 9.6 is a mail upgrade?

Alexis DeveriaFyrd # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:41:48 PM

Adding "Presto" to the UA string is an interesting idea...I was just wondering if it ought to be there or not the other day.

I know that Presto replaced "Elektra" in '03, do you expect to keep the Presto name even if significant changes are to be made to it in the future?

DartSky # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:42:42 PM

so my problem is not solved and remained

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=247186

MaximSailorMax # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:49:41 PM

Acid3: 85/100
^_^

MisterNobody # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:50:07 PM

Since Opera 9.5 in form's input fields don't work moving of selected text - always copying

Tim AltmanJunyor # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:51:09 PM

@DartSky: I doubt it will be fixed if you don't report it properly.

Delerue # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:51:35 PM

Still has this weird bug: sometimes the Google search used in the adress bar deletes some part of the typed string. I use this search by typing the string and pressing UP_ARROW and then RETURN. See the image below and notice that the typed string isn't the same in the Google search:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/Delerue/search_bug.png

BTW, I can't believe Opera team hasn't fixed the link-hover-once in this same page yet. It's not good to a browser reputation that it doesn't work perfectly with your own pages. Another example is the Opera Snapshot FAQ, that has serious problems with text selection and copy: http://snapshot.opera.com/faq.html#packages .

And it seems that ghost-favicons still exists.

I love Opera, but really disagree with the build politics. I think that a release build must have all the obvious bug fixed. By obvious bug I mean all bugs not related with sites compatibility (except Opera web site, of course). In other words: Opera must works pefectly with it's own interface. Unfortunately, it doesn't now.

Ben Tudballtudsta # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:56:15 PM

When there are 22 or more files listed in the Transfers tab, the list is trimmed to 21 files on Opera restart.

friguron # Friday, September 5, 2008 4:01:28 PM

All my custom search engines gone (from opera link), and so they dissapeared from all 3 synched operas I have !! DAMN @#~|@#€|@#€!"·. They're in the limbo now... They don't exist anywhere... 25 custom searches... ARGH, damn!

Is it a known fact ????? Have I overseen something?

Ednilson Maiaemaia # Friday, September 5, 2008 4:08:43 PM

where option language "Portugês (Brasil)" on installer (Windows)? removed??

Delerue # Friday, September 5, 2008 4:24:43 PM

@emaia, only release builds have language files. Snapshots come with default english only. Mas você pode instalar a versão oficial em português e o snapshot por cima.

Rafał MiłeckiZajec # Friday, September 5, 2008 4:25:21 PM

The first build where I am NOT able to crash Flash plugin nor freeze browser! I opened 3 movies on youtube at the same time and Opera didn't freeze!
Finally Flash works stable!

My last wish about plugins: SWFDEC support.

skynet1248 # Friday, September 5, 2008 4:30:28 PM

thx

sacharja # Friday, September 5, 2008 4:34:08 PM

Because of the changelog some builds ago I hoped it'll be possible to display the source of a page even if disc cache is off. So "disc cache off" means no source view?

Are all those regressions improvements?

- [Regression] Search is not working http://www.shortwavemonitor.com/05-10.htm (search for 5.100) bug-334564 http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/ (search for simpsons)
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=236993

- [Regression] pop-up notification is shown at the UPPER left corner when main bar is shown bug-349478

- [Regression] SpeeDial is not shown at startup when feeds and windows are used instead of tabs bug-349479 & bug-327295

- [Regression] If the URL contains an anchor Opera jumps to the anchor even on the first visit (former versions like Merlin just did this when clicking on a link) bug-349494

- [Regression] Freeze (http://www.hstt.net/forum/profile.php?mode=register&agreed=true) bug-349430 (not reported by me)

- [Regression] Browser.js disables the no-click-to-activate script bug-349528

If not it would be great to fix these before the final. IMHO regressions should have a high priority. At least everybody wants a (final) build that is noticeable better than the last.

OlegSkor # Friday, September 5, 2008 4:39:53 PM

Maybe i post my comment not in a right place, but still.

Opera has an old problem with Winows Media Player 11 which is still not resolved. For example if u go to www.gametrailers.com and starting watch videos there in WMP, you will see that WMP plugin doesn't work correctly there (compare to IE)(videos doesn't feet to the place where it should be if the video size is bigger, navigation bar dissapeared). The same problem can be seen on a lot other web pages where WMP is using. Is it possible to do smth with it.

Thanks a lot.

sacharja # Friday, September 5, 2008 4:44:20 PM

"Block Unwanted Pop-Ups" fails here http://www.popupcheck.com/freescan/popup/popup_test_standard.asp (JS "encrypted")

MyOpera team, please fix this!fearphage # Friday, September 5, 2008 4:52:16 PM

Fixed problem where dynamically added xml-stylesheet processing instructions were ignored
Added support for the caller property on functions

God bless core devs

Removed the document project from iframe objects for compatibility with Gecko, WebKit, and the Acid3 test

Can anyone translate this into english please?

Thanks gents. Keep up the good work.

EDIT:

Removed the document project from iframe objects for compatibility with Gecko, WebKit, and the Acid3 test

opera used to support iframeReference.document but does not any longer. This was probably just an alias to iframeReference.contentDocument.

EricJH # Friday, September 5, 2008 4:54:08 PM

Nice list of fixes.

What is the idea behind putting Presto version number in the User Agent string? Just curious here.

Tim AltmanJunyor # Friday, September 5, 2008 4:57:13 PM

@fearphage: "project" -> "property"

mhakali # Friday, September 5, 2008 5:14:08 PM

Junyor: I find it that many bugs that are reported just keep sticking around. I've given up on it and I am hoping for the best until next build(s)

Kudos on flash improvements though. That has been a huge issue for me (segfaulting operapluginwrapper & flash freezing)

otzi # Friday, September 5, 2008 5:16:45 PM

I have still problems with java applet where is situated map, for example try to go on www.mapy.sk input city which is called humenne and zoom in for the highest detail and you will see that map will move to another city which is called myjava... but this bug is on many sites which are using this applet.. but maps.google.com works good therefore I dont know where is the problem.. please fix it

Daniel Sitnikdanielcs # Friday, September 5, 2008 5:18:35 PM

UNIX: Additional fixes to flash plugin handling. Freezes when using flash should now be mostly gone.

www.nenelinux.tk ®nenericardo # Friday, September 5, 2008 5:20:53 PM

OPERA LINUX IS THE BEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

more support in flash

thanks opera

MaximSailorMax # Friday, September 5, 2008 5:23:22 PM

looks like code like:

imageWin = open("/gfx/index.html", "pilt");
imageWin.document.open();
imageWin.document.write("<html><head>" + title); imageWin.document.write("</head><body bgcolor=black scrolling=no marginheight=0 marginwidth=0 leftmargin=0 topmargin=0>");
imageWin.document.write("test string");
imageWin.document.write("</body></html>");
imageWin.document.close();

not work any more...

filled bug report, but don't remember bug number

sample: http://www.forumcinemas.lv/movie/5250/gallery/?lang=eng
click on images should open preview window with image...

SergeySergey239 # Friday, September 5, 2008 5:31:44 PM

thanks for unix flash fix

Kamaleshkamalesh # Friday, September 5, 2008 5:37:40 PM

Is it just me, or did you tweak the addr bar shading? I have "show progress bar inside addr bar" and it looks very cool, for some reason (using OSX v10.5.4).

I'm getting a plug-in problem here. Click on WATCH in right column. Child window opens, but not Real Video plug-in.
Reported as bug# 360 558.
(Build 5215, Real v11.0)

HanShenghansheng # Friday, September 5, 2008 5:38:54 PM

Thanks fixes for Linux..

and the Wand Button(Address bar) work better now.

Good Luck~`

Kyle Bakerkyleabaker # Friday, September 5, 2008 5:39:05 PM

Feed Previews look better now...hopefully there will still be large improvements to it. I like the larger subscribe button (much more Web 2.0-ish) and the helpful "Learn more about feeds" link. I do hope that the actual feeds help page is working when 9.60 is released though.

Also digging the new and more descriptive UA string:
Opera/9.60 (Windows NT 6.0; U; en) Presto/2.1.1

Kamaleshkamalesh # Friday, September 5, 2008 5:41:47 PM

Originally posted by kyleabaker:

Presto/2.1.1

Yeah, very cool. Will this have any effect on web stats or better handling of entry scripts & site compatibility...?

Haavardhaavard # Friday, September 5, 2008 5:59:07 PM

Originally posted by DjiXas:

So b/c 9.6 is a mail upgrade?

I don't know what you mean by "b/c" (could you try to use full words and sentences and perhaps indicate who and what your question is aimed at?), but if I understand you correctly: No, there are also improvements that are not related to the e-mail client.

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