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9.60 beta 1 RC

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Thats right, Opera 9.6 is soon ready for its first beta flight. We have now frozen all features and only critical fixes go in. Really soon now, the beta will be released, but we want more feedback from you guys before we do so.

Changelog
  • Added Core version (currently "Presto/2.1.1") to the User-Agent header; all our products will include this feature soon
  • Sites using HTTP Auth are now saved in typed history
  • Added setting to prevent bookmarks from showing in the Address field auto-completion drop-down
  • Properly stop loading pages with iframes when closing the page or pressing stop
  • Fixed problem where dynamically added xml-stylesheet processing instructions were ignored
  • Removed the document property from iframe objects for compatibility with Gecko, WebKit, and the Acid3 test
  • Added support for the caller property on functions
  • Fixed yet another case of having to press the back button twice
  • Improvements to feed preview page
  • Made feed preview page template location customizable
  • Made reloading Speed Dial while offline actually reload all thumbnails
  • Fixed Opera Link issue where notes could end up blank after being synced
  • The Opera Link queue file is no longer created before using Link
  • The fraud protection dialog now works when using a proxy
  • Made it possible to remove Speed Dial search again by unchecking the "Use as default Speed Dial search"
  • Fixed text input on Windows Tablet PC Edition 2005
  • Fixed open/save of images in Opera Mail when using the image context menu
  • Made all top-level access points (except All Messages) selectable
  • Fixed a problem deleting drafts from the Drafts view
  • UNIX: Additional fixes to flash plugin handling. Freezes when using flash should now be mostly gone.


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Comments

FrakkiaLP 7. September 2008, 08:08

Favicon Bug on Bookmarks.

If you open for the first time a bookmark, the favicon is not updated but it bacome a dark grey star instead of the right favicon... anyone can confirm this?

adamwysokinski 7. September 2008, 08:12

http://www.sciencedirect.com/ is still rendered incorrectly :-(

Twister 7. September 2008, 08:25

Additional Smilies java window in SMF Forum doesn't work on Opera 9.6 beta1. Sun Java Runtime Environment version 1.6 is installed and Opera use it.

See picture:
http://i37.tinypic.com/2expj51.jpg

zix 7. September 2008, 09:26

@sacharja
nope, in the waiting-time it's about 1,3% and while loading the webpage it's up to 23% cpu-usage.

sacharja 7. September 2008, 09:56

@zix
busy server? Try google.com.

DjiXas 7. September 2008, 10:04

When will you fix transfers issue? Half of them are being removed from transfers bar after I reopen Opera. Sick of this.

zix 7. September 2008, 10:20

@sacharja
It's a bug, not a server-issue. I tried a lot of websites, including google.com.

NTMan 7. September 2008, 10:42

@sebt

Why third item does not contain a bug report?
When recieve big letter (more than 2048 lines), I can't select by mouse line's over 2048 line.


The fourth item, I think memory leak is when after each hour memory allocation are more and more.

vinodkk1 7. September 2008, 10:53

Chrome is way faster than any thing around Ive tried .. Am gonna try that and see how it goes .. Javascript rendering specially ,is way faster.And a nice JS/HTML debugger

vinodkk1 7. September 2008, 11:14

http://dromaeo.com is broken . Running the tests causes lots of IO read/writes and hangs opera finally

lifenight 7. September 2008, 11:27

Really good release for mac os x !

Thank you :wink:

malsumis 7. September 2008, 13:40

vinodkk1: This issue happens also on 9.52 for me.

Also, you can't submit things to deviantart.com. It's completely broken and unusable even under different UA-strings.

pjn123 7. September 2008, 13:53

Something that's really starting to be annoying since I started using the right-click >>> Open in background tab option:

When I click on a link and select this it sometimes doesn’t open ANYTHING... Just do nothing. When I select it for the second time it works.

Come on Opera. You must start to bring your A-Game. Google Chrome is looking great and with more options (like disable pictures) I'm seriously thinking of switching over and suggesting it to others.

This bug reported here is still present in the latest build:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=245078&t=1217951839&page=1#comment2688169
Not even one reply. Thanks! (i even included the page ffs)

Another bug since 5.5:
- When I hover over the File|Edit|... buttons the hover state works great but when the hover goes away the button have a slightly darker color than it had prior to the mouse hover. But I guess this is such an obvious bug that you guys know about it already.

I hope Opera 10 loose the titlebar like Chrome have... Really free up space on the screen. And please.... include a spell checker. And no your current spell checker option isn’t enough. It must highlight as I type the words and it must be bundled with the installer.

One last thing :wink:
Is it possible to get Opera fullscreen but with the Tabs and navigation bars visible?

Thanks for this great browser. Will continue to spread the word :wink:

compman 7. September 2008, 17:16

heh, read it n weep...
Google Chrome vulnerabilities starting to pile up

but safari is still basic and still has more share than opera... it ought to show that 'ability' does not count as much as style, or 'product placement' ....

tenplus1 7. September 2008, 19:08

Thank you soooooo much for the latest build, have been using it since release and browser has never hung up at all, even when playing with flash 9 stuff... Nice one :smile:

Am gonna test Flash 10 now P:

g4qb 7. September 2008, 23:37

9.5x & 9.6x
don't show file size in d'load dialogue box.

have to rely on transfer window.

Alhjaeny 8. September 2008, 00:04

How can I download videos from Youtube with Realplayer in OPera ??
thanks

EricJH 8. September 2008, 01:46

Originally posted by Alhjaeny:

How can I download videos from Youtube with Realplayer in OPera ??
thanks

You can't.... neither you can in FF 3.

sebt 8. September 2008, 01:55

@NT Man

Why third item does not contain a bug report?
When recieve big letter (more than 2048 lines), I can't select by mouse line's over 2048 line.

That may be so, but without a bug report, there is very little chance of any fix. Look at your own url, there is no bug report there.

The fourth item, I think memory leak is when after each hour memory allocation are more and more.

Opera has been running here for over a week without restart and is currently at 280M, with 30 tabs open. Assuming we are running the same code, there is no memory leak. Opera's memory usage will naturally grow to a percentage of the available system memory - that is normal behaviour - but should not grow beyond that unless a rogue plugin is eating memory. I tend to run plugins disabled by default, and enable them for the odd sites I need them. In Windows, plugin-related memory leaks will appear as opera.exe eating memory, and in linux it can be seen as "operapluginwrapper" eating memory. Either way, that is not Opera's fault but the offending plugin's.

I just ran FF 3.01 which already uses more than 280M for my 30 tabs without any time passing, link navigation or other general use, so I can't confirm any kind of memory leak issue here.

If you have a lot of system RAM, expect Opera to use more of it. To keep things fast, Opera will continue to eat RAM for the purpose of memory-caching of pages (for instant back/forward), up to a ceiling determined by the available system RAM. You can adjust this behaviour by changing Prefs..Advanced..History..Memory cache from automatic to a lower value.

Seb :smile:

sebt 8. September 2008, 02:28

@pjn123:

When I click on a link and select this it sometimes doesn’t open ANYTHING... Just do nothing. When I select it for the second time it works.

I use the "Open in background" function all the time and it always works (you can also ctrl+shift+leftclick). The only time you might see a problem is if the link is a JS that is already trying to open another window or do some other 'clever' window management. Opera can't do much about that. Can you provide a repeatable example that consistently shows the problem?

I replied to your problem although I cannot reproduce it, sorry.

Your file..edit problem, do you see that with any other skins or just the default. And is this in Windows? I don't see it on Windows with a custom skin, or in Linux.

You can create shortcuts that will remove all extraneous screen elements (by toggling toolbars) and the menus from Opera. Can't remember how though, but I suggest looking at non-troppo's wiki, particularly the CustomButtons section.

Seb :smile:

nightfishing 8. September 2008, 03:29

10421 is deleting messages from server even when "leave message on server" is checked.

It is not 100%, but I lost a number of emails when I checked/deleted/emptied trash on a system set up to leave messages on server.

A later test failed to reproduce (messages were left).

xp3/10421

abramrosa 8. September 2008, 05:42

links still are not working on sites such as this one http://www.candystand.com/play.do?id=18043

Raistlin 8. September 2008, 08:06

Some css3 attributes doesn't work (which works in safari and Fx ;/)

http://www.xyz.avx.pl/testy_css3.php

emperordarius 8. September 2008, 08:08

"How can I download videos from Youtube with Realplayer in OPera ??
thanks"

You can't, but you can use RealPlayer's built-in browser

emperordarius 8. September 2008, 08:20

"Some css3 attributes doesn't work (which works in safari and Fx ;/)

http://www.xyz.avx.pl/testy_css3.php"

Seeing the screenshot from the page, Firefox did the same as Opera.

fearphage 8. September 2008, 08:27

This build reintroduced an unfortunate core regression: the ability for document to be undefined
JavaScript - https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=5ba4cb667f&view=ac
User Javascript thread
Error:
name: TypeError
message: Statement on line 16: Type mismatch (usually non-object value supplied where object required)
Backtrace:
Line 16 of User JS script
document.addEventListener('BeforeEvent.DomContentLoaded'
stacktrace: ...
JavaScript - https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=5ba4cb667f&view=ac
User Javascript thread
Error:
name: TypeError
message: Statement on line 174: Type mismatch (usually non-object value supplied where object required)
Backtrace:
Line 174 of User JS script
document.addEventListener('message', function(e) {
Line 109 of User JS script
this.initPage();
Line 1011 of User JS script
OS.init();
Line 9 of User JS script
(function() {
stacktrace: ... Line 109 of User JS script
this.initPage();
Line 1011 of User JS script
OS.init();
Line 9 of User JS script
(function() {
JavaScript - https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=5ba4cb667f&view=ac
User Javascript thread
Error:
name: TypeError
message: Statement on line 666: Type mismatch (usually non-object value supplied where object required)
Backtrace:
Line 666 of User JS script
document.addEventListener('load', function(){
Line 18 of User JS script
(function(opera){
stacktrace: ... Line 18 of User JS script
(function(opera){
Can anyone confirm?

Filip007 8. September 2008, 08:39

Sometimes Opera after a page is opened turns to black...

http://slike.poglej.net/files/8yo6cb1etelw5ntmrpw8.jpg

MultiHoster

NTMan 8. September 2008, 10:08

Comment containing e-mail address removed by moderator.

naphil 8. September 2008, 11:00

It looks that this build and even previous final ones take more that 10 seconds to terminate.

On this build few bookmarklets won't work anymore.


javascript:var WN7z=open('','Z6','width=400,height=200,scrollbars,resizable,menubar');var DL5e=document.getElementsByTagName('embed');with(WN7z.document){write('<base target=_blank>');for(lKi=0;lKi<DL5e.length;lKi++){write(DL5e[lKi].src.link(DL5e[lKi].src)+'<br><br>')};void(close())}


it looks like the with statement won't work properly.

Snake[CRO] 8. September 2008, 11:13

Facebook is still very slow ... When I click on any link 1-2 sec there's nothing, and then opera starts to loading. Slower then Firefox 3 :frown:( ... Cmon guys ... :smile:

g4qb 8. September 2008, 11:53

couldn't put my finger on it until tonight.

9.27
0. delete cache
1. type in broadbandchoice.com.au
gets redirected to
http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/

2. type in "br"
broadbandchoice.com.au
shows up


in 9.6x
only the redirected URL is remembered
0. delete cache
1. type in broadbandchoice.com.au
gets redirected to
http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/

2. type in "br"
nothing.

EricJH 8. September 2008, 12:37

Originally posted by NT Man:

It is correct, I understood, I must add reference to bugreport on the topic. For example for third item bug-360926

Please edit your post and take out the at bugs dot opera dot com (this is to prevent the mail box from being spammed.

You will need this userjs to make the blog pages editable: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=160450 .

artemeas 8. September 2008, 13:13

Moderator edit: English please.

pjn123 8. September 2008, 14:07

@sebt

It's a normal url link. It just happend again while I was posting a reply to the other bug report:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=245078&t=1217951839&page=1#comment2688169


As for the File|Edit|View|Bookmarks|... bug.
Here is a little picture I made to demonstrate the difference.
I'm using a default install of Opera on WinXp Sp3 with the latest nVidia drivers for GF 8600GT on AMD x2 6000+. I've seen this on more than one pc. (all windows xp)
http://stashbox.org/208488/opera%20bug2.png

I'm aware that Opera's UI is very customizable and I use it to my advantage :wink:
Its just that the titlebar waste lots of screen space.
Here is a quick mock on what opera without the window titlebar could look like:
http://stashbox.org/208510/opera10.png

Maybe Opera 10 should go for a more Office07 look and loose the Menubar and just have the tabs & navigation + search. Atm opera looks just like any other windows program. Something special will make people jump onboard the Opera train.

Ok a little of topic now but I gave Opera for my mother and watched as see used it. When she typed the url of her site she was looking for a button to press to GO to the url. I told her that she had to press enter. All other browsers have this so please.. its small but Opera really needs a new UI that have a modern layout and that it more friendly on the eye :wink:

illiad 8. September 2008, 16:39


How to download youtube??? YES you can... just look at the proper forum!
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=162503

you can even ask youtube!! :D :D

fearphage 8. September 2008, 16:53

@NT Man: please edit the email address out of your post. just leave the bug (#1234). Thanks.

illiad 8. September 2008, 16:55

pjn123: search the proper forum!
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/search.dml

oh, and I think your mum needs 'tools, appearance, buttons, browser view' - you can drag & drop the 'go' button.. :smile:

more than 8000 topics on customising here... http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=28


much more here..
http://operawiki.info/CustomButtons#menu

Junyor 8. September 2008, 18:26

@zix: OK. Well, I don't see the 30 second waiting problem on any site. I also have a MacBook Pro running Leopard.

@DoubleT: No, there isn't.

@DjiXas: Bug number?

@nightfishing: Did you read the changelog for Opera 9.50 (http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/mac/950/)? 'When using "Leave messages on server", POP3 messages are permanently removed from the server when the Trash view is emptied (disable by setting "Permanent delete=0" for the relevant account in accounts.ini).'

@g4qb: Have you filed a bug?

piotersu 8. September 2008, 18:36

Flash 10rc is not reconized by my Opera too :frown: Am using 32bit Opera on 64bit Linux. Flash 9 works as before.

bobpage87 8. September 2008, 19:53

When I click a link in gmail it opens a wierd blank gmail page in a tab before the actual link.

The login link still brings up an incorrect login box on www.studentfinancedirect.co.uk.

Freebase.com is extremely slow on Opera when compared to other browsers, all the pages load very slowly, and when one selects something on a drop down menu you have to select it twice.

FataL 8. September 2008, 20:23

Originally posted by Junyor:

Did you read the changelog for Opera 9.50 (http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/mac/950/)? 'When using "Leave messages on server", POP3 messages are permanently removed from the server when the Trash view is emptied (disable by setting "Permanent delete=0" for the relevant account in accounts.ini).'

As I said before, such fatal changes should be more visible. This option really should be included in mail accaunt GUI options, and should be disabled by default (at least for couple major releases, so people will accustom to this).
I have several people (not computer guys at all) that use Opera Mail, and some of them got in trouble with this update. And I can't help them by phone or e-mail because option not included in GUI.
At least somewhere in GUI (maybe near "Leave messages on server") should be written a warning message about permanent delition from a server.

emperordarius 8. September 2008, 21:08

Is the Flash clipboard hijacking fixed?

kyleabaker 8. September 2008, 21:27

I'm not sure exactly how far back this problem goes, but in Wordpress installations the Flash uploader only works the first time it is used.

For instance, if I create a page and upload several images to that page in the control panel it will allow me to use the Flash uploader. Then say I go create another page and try to upload photos to the new page...the Flash uploader will not load and the browser uploader (single uploades at a time) is the only option.

This works fine in Firefox. I will file a report, but I'm going to see if I can first pin-point the problem.

Can anyone else confirm this?

Chas4 8. September 2008, 21:37

@emperordarius Flash clipboard hijacking will be fixed by Adobe not Opera

emperordarius 8. September 2008, 21:48

@Chas4: I know but i thought that Opera could prevent the exploit from running, Adobe will take ages to fix the problem

veggen 8. September 2008, 23:12

nightfishing 8. September 2008, 23:37

@junyor: I recalled that "warning" but thought it had been a "known issue" during the beta period(s) and since it was no longer listed as a "known issue" I thought it would have been fixed.

Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought that it was a "feature" and would have been in the change log.

If such a dangerous and counter intuitive "feature" is going to be included, I would think the default would be "off" and an opera6.ini "hack" to turn it on would be more appropriate.

Regardless, it's fixed, now, without too much damage. Thanks for the help.

misoman 8. September 2008, 23:38

I'm on Windows, and wondering if anyone else has observed new behavior in this version regarding sessions? In the past, each tab was written to the saved session immediately, or at least it seemed so, as after a browser crash or some other forceful quitting of Opera, all the previously open tabs could be restored.

Now, if Opera crashes, or is closed via the task manager (as I've had to do a number of times due to the "freezing on opening new tab" bug mentioned by others here), the next launch only remembers tabs which were open during the last proper close of Opera.

So, if I open 3 tabs, close Opera properly, launch again, close all those tabs, open 10 new tabs, and kill Opera via the task manager when it eventually freezes on me, the next launch will open the 3 tabs from the earlier browser session, not the 10 new tabs from the last one.

I haven't filed a bug report on it since I'm not sure whether it's a bug or a deliberate design change by the Opera team. If it's a design change, please bring the old behavior back. :smile:

crabbit 9. September 2008, 00:34

had a "slight" problem with sync a few days ago... synced to another pc, turned this off and then returned to the first one just to find when i opened opera, all my bookmarks had doubled! that was much mopping up to do to reduce it to my original 1500 bookmarks.... (yes, i have tools for that, but still)

will i file a bug report for that?

Chas4 9. September 2008, 01:57

@ emperordarius you can always use the Content Blocker in Opera for the time being

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