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Another step…

By Claudio Santambrogio. Friday, 19. September 2008, 11:01:53

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…closer to 9.60 - with a special attention to our Chinese mail users :smile:

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: it contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

Known Issue
  • Dragonfly is still a bit unstable…


Changelog
  • Several stability fixes
  • Fixed copying of multiple entries from history manager
  • Fixed DCC transfers in IRC
  • Fixed quick find in feeds
  • Added popular Chinese mail providers in mailproviders.xml


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A New Snapshot and My First Post Here9.6 approaching

Comments

Raafel 19. September 2008, 18:56

@Rijk and illiad
Continuing the message in the earlier blog post: it's impossible to copy an Opera folder and use it in another computer/Windows without losing the skin and layout configurations. I tried with the exact same folder. See the images below:

Instance one (x86):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/Delerue/x86.jpg

Instance two (x64):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/Delerue/x64.jpg

The most weird thing is that if I set the layout in one Windows instance, the other gets messed. But if I set this messed instance, the first one gets messed. As it seems, Opera layout configurations are mutually exclusive. :frown:

squillaz 19. September 2008, 19:01

The following java script command causes current tab to close out: "javascript:resetPage();".

Example:
1. Go here: http://myneu.neu.edu/cp/home/logout?uP_tparam=frm&frm=
2. Click "Log In"

Opera kills the tab completely. It works ok in Firefox where you are redirected to the main login page: http://myneu.neu.edu/cp/home/loginf

It may be a problem with site itself since IT dept sucks and hates Opera. I have to change user agent to Firefox to login otherwise it returns a bogus error message. :rolleyes:

Can anyone else confirm?

michael 19. September 2008, 19:05

the rightclick bug is finally fixed, thanks guys :D

miki69 19. September 2008, 19:12

Originally posted by EricJH:

Get the needed userjs here: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=160450 .



Thanks mate, works awesome!:drunk:

ledjani 19. September 2008, 19:21

Wachovia Online Banking don't work. It works perfectly on 9.5 but not on these betas. always gives the following error:

"Please do not use your browser back or forward button to navigate Online Banking. Please click on the Return to View Accounts link below to return to Online Banking. If this does not work, please login to online banking again.

Note: You may have received this message if you tried to bookmark a page within Online Banking. The Online Banking Login page is the only page that can be bookmarked.
Please reference error code 100-120."

Brad Beglin 19. September 2008, 19:35

Avast! me hearties, I be a little disappointed t'opera team does not celebrate Talk Like a Pirate Day. :raider:

KamYuen 19. September 2008, 19:38

Serious issue with flash i've encountered causes the mouse pointer to disappear/flash. Strange thing is not all flash pages seem to cause it. Even more odd is that once the page with the flash is opened it causes this to happen to all the pages that the browser has opened. To see the effect go to www.dell.co.uk and the main flash advertisment, specifically the one regarding the "Mike Ming" decorative laptops. Once that has loaded it will start causing the problem not just on that page, but on other pages within the browser as well. Once that page is closed the effect disappears. Note that this does *not* happen with pages like youtube. It seems quite specific as far as i can see.

Blaz Pristy 19. September 2008, 20:10

Step by step, day by day, fresh start every single day...:lol:

Test in progress..:sherlock:

Missing favicons from Personal bar finally fixed.


Check this site...Flashing text !!!
http://www.tweakerzone.com/

Jim E. Lee, Jr. 19. September 2008, 20:15

Wachovia Online Banking don't work. It works perfectly on 9.5 but not on these betas. always gives the following error:

"Please do not use your browser back or forward button to navigate Online Banking. Please click on the Return to View Accounts link below to return to Online Banking. If this does not work, please login to online banking again.

Note: You may have received this message if you tried to bookmark a page within Online Banking. The Online Banking Login page is the only page that can be bookmarked.
Please reference error code 100-120."



I haven't tried it with Wachovia, but I'm noticing a possibly related issue: this beta seems to slow down on certain online banking or webmail sites - *way down*. The page will eventually pop up after something like 30 seconds. I think I'll file a bug report.

EDIT - bug #363841

squillaz 19. September 2008, 20:35

@tech10171968: Bank of America's site works fine so not all banking sites have issues.

Bill P 19. September 2008, 20:50

Feeds problem? When I do a feed reload it stops a bit before the end like @ 102 of 131 feeds to read. I reverted to last week's and the issue went away.

Anyone else ecperience this? 64bit Linux

pjn123 19. September 2008, 20:52

Yay! Finally I can reproduce the bug where these right click menu options dont work:
- Open
- Open in new Tab
- Open in background tab

Right click a webpage background(not a url/button link!)
Now without closing the menu(Back,Forward,Rewind,Fast Forward) rightclick on a url button or what ever you can open/openInNewTab/openInBgTab...
Dont matter what you select, your selection will do nothing.

This is really annoying and normally happen when you miss the url and click the button miss.. then give it another try :wink:

Please fix for 9.6 :D

Cheers!

Rafal 19. September 2008, 21:39

@pjn123: but this is fixed in THIS build.

pjn123 19. September 2008, 21:43

@d.i.z - lol. Ok thanks. Will update to this weeks update then :wink: (couldn't update before post since I was busy download stuff)
Didn't see it in the changelog so thought it still would be there :wink:

Thanks Opera!

Andrew Nguyen 19. September 2008, 21:44

I love Fridays. :happy: Thanks Opera team. :yes:

Witold Wasiczko 19. September 2008, 21:51

I'm waiting for Opera Link for feeds...

Jim E. Lee, Jr. 19. September 2008, 21:51

@tech10171968: Bank of America's site works fine so not all banking sites have issues.


Yeah, I noticed that, too. Still, certain other sites seem to have this problem with extraordinary slow loading. For example, try http://webmail.att.net . Not sure if it's my computer, the site, or Opera. Maybe someone else can try that link and see if they have any better luck?

Rijk 19. September 2008, 21:59

@Delerue: not the same paths, once starts with C: the other with F:. After moving a folder, you have to edit opera6.ini, otherwise it will keep pointing to the old config files.

miki69 19. September 2008, 22:28

Originally posted by kam_yuen:

Serious issue with flash i've encountered causes the mouse pointer to disappear/flash.


I have also experienced this many times. Any way to resolve this issue? Is this flash related? I have installed latest Adobe Flash Player 10 beta (dated 15.09.2008), and with Flash 10 I don't have freeze ups/hangs anymore (unlike flash 9).

zikzakatak 19. September 2008, 22:37

3 tabs open 85% cpu usage and a lot lot lot of memory...


why?.

g4qb 19. September 2008, 23:38

http://my.opera.com/g4qb/blog/opera-notes

someone actually reads my posts!
cool!

<space> bug almost fixed,
google chrome also has similar problem
not all spaces are found.
eg.
search for <space> in this blog

regression from 9.27
d'loading files
full file size not shown in dialogue box
have to view file size in transfer panel.
eg.
9.27
25.5 MB (26,692,216 bytes)

9.5/6x
25.5 MB

Max Steep 19. September 2008, 23:55

In about half an hour opera starts to consume one of the cpu cores. Now I dont know what it does, but usage is at a 100% of that core all the time, making opera ridiculously slow and sluggish. ALL the 9.60 builds do that to me. Please help..

SteelRealm 20. September 2008, 00:36

Samsung, as I posted previously, works fine.

The other three do however display incorrectly and are unusable.
Hugoboss doesn't load at all unless you turn off plug-ins just like before.

Originally posted by By excastis, # 19. September 2008, 18:33:41:

Cool keep up the good work but....

These sites all still have menu problems that make them almost unuseable.

http://www.circuitcity.com/
http://www.samsung.de/common/index_main.aspx
http://www.fujifilm.ch/
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/

And
http://www.hugoboss.com/

Completely unuseable doesnt load what so ever still.

David 20. September 2008, 00:53

Can anyone confirm some of the controls dont work... for instance the volume and fullscreen button.

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=4226712&cl=9816070&src=news


Also this page - the page with is not fitting to my screen.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/18/mccain-spain.aspx

XP SP3

SteelRealm 20. September 2008, 01:13

BUG?

Opera, dispite being set to 40MB memory, is taking up far more then it was before this update.. I had managed to limit it to 50MB or RAM. Its not floating just below 80MB. Considering I only have 512 MB of RAM i'm not crazy about this.

Edit - RAM usage on start up is also up about 4-5 MB.

abramrosa 20. September 2008, 01:15

Noticed when using adobe flash player 9, buttons wont work at all here > http://www.candystand.com/play.do?id=18043 However when upgrading to the not so popular version 10 beta everything works normaly but is not recognized in other sites (telling me to upgrade to the lastest version of flash? Is there a fix? I think It's a flash problem...

Abílio Araújo 20. September 2008, 01:41

I'm finding it very hard to handle file types in Opera right now. For example, when I try to click a "mp3" file, I want it to ask me where to save it to. Instead it tries to run QuickTime plugin who fails. If I try to make it so Opera asks me where to save for all QuickTime files, it saves them all as "mpeg". If then, after closing Opera, I delete the lines in the ini that refer to the plugin, OPERA PUTS IT BACK IN THE SETTINGS.
Is this hardcoded now in Opera or what? The only way to make this work as it should is to delete the plugin, but then it defies the purpose of the plugin itself, doesn't it?

Make it simple, people, SIMPLE!

abramrosa 20. September 2008, 01:51

And what can I do about sites that used to load fine, then all of a sudden don't ever load completely until I click stop. Even if I refresh over and over again, it doesn't make it better? Anybody? I'm on Vista...

searchme 20. September 2008, 02:07

Originally posted by AyushJ:

It's working in other browsers because they don't use browser.js See this: http://www.opera.com/docs/browserjs/


Useful pointer, but I don't understand. The yamaha site loads, but isn't functional until javascript is enabled. browserjs doesn't yet include compatibility fix for bad coding on this site. Other browsers work because they don't use browserjs? Doesn't seem to compute. How's that work? Build 2430.

edit: Is this what you mean? /opera:illegal-url-5/

FataL 20. September 2008, 04:04

Just small addition to messed up sites list:
http://www.llbean.com/
(Mess disapears after disabling JavaScript)

AECX 20. September 2008, 04:31

Doesnt load properly
Totally messed up layout

http://www.jnj.com/connect/healthcare-products/recent/?flash=true

also layout slightly messed up here but the big thing is the really excessive vertical scroll bar.

http://www.embarq.com/Residential/Voice?pid=p_26202310

Excessive scroll bar here too
http://www.maniatv.com/shows

Site doesnt fully load. Like only the first section of watches load. There suppose to be many more to the right (horizontal scroll). Can anyone confirm?

http://www.gucci.com/us/us-english/us/fall-winter-08/timepieces/

I do agree this build seems a little slow and uses alot of cpu usage.

Andres 20. September 2008, 05:13

Ohh, thanks a lot Desktop Team.
I'm some worried about Opera speed, I've noticed that Opera is the slowest of my installed browsers, specially on webs like Facebook or New Yahoo Mail, don't laugh about me but I've a very old machine, right now I'm working on a 667 MHz Pentium 3 with 256 MB RAM memory; for such a slow machine nothing better than Opera, you're real genius ! Thanks a lot... but hey, when I check my facebook Opera is almost UNRESPONSIVE, and using Yahoo Mail is a very slow experience on Opera, so I tried with Safari or Chrome and woww, they are fast...they fly !!
It seems its a real problem that you have with JS performance, check this:
http://avencius.nl/content/king-hill-squirrelfish-extreme
Opera is the slowest by FAR.
This is big deal nowdays.

zikzakatak 20. September 2008, 05:25

all builds 9.60 so far consumes a lot of memory and cpu usage.


but this is the worst, after some time opera becomes unusable and slows sooooooooo much.


if opera targets faster computers from now on...thats so terrible news cause there is many people not been able to upgrade to faster computers today.


i hope is not the time when old computers have to move on to diferent browser cause opera is too much for certain computers...


Michelle Beloshitsky 20. September 2008, 06:11

Fixed DCC transfers in IRC

What it means? Are resuming stopped downloads is now avaiable?

PS: Thanks for you work.

DD32 20. September 2008, 07:28

You may've fixed DCC's in IRC... But you broke IRC channels in the process..

you can join, post messages, get alerted theres new messages, But the tab will never actually list any messaged after the join statement...

Raafel 20. September 2008, 07:33

@Rijk, that's what I'm talking about. I think that if 'Multi User' flag is set to '0', so Opera must assume relative paths, not full paths. For example, instead of 'F:\Arquivos de programas\Opera\defaults\', Opera should write only 'defaults\'. Makes sense, don't you think?

Thanks for your attention.
:wink:

rejdi 20. September 2008, 09:12

What's the status of bug-360576? It's still not fixed in this build.

Ad von Reeken 20. September 2008, 10:44

@ledjani

Wachovia Online Banking don't work. It works perfectly on 9.5 but not on these betas. always gives the following error:



The note they give indicates that, under
Extra | Preferences | Advanced | Network,
you might have switched off "Send Referrer Information"
(I don't have a us-en version so the names may be somewhat different).

They check the referrer information to see if you come from a (specified) page on their own domain to this page. Only then they allow you to continue.

I found this out when requesting information on the site of the Dutch bank Triodos Bank http://www.triodos.nl/

You can overrule the general setting of referrer information for the banks domain by going to one of the banks pages and unchecking the ckeck box under (right-click page) "Site preferences..." | Network.

Regards, a3ano

wirusek 20. September 2008, 11:05

www.dolsat.pl

IE, FX, Chrome: OK

Opera: error
http://img.wklej.org/v/71654opera3.png

Lilo 20. September 2008, 12:03

Ugly DDE bug (Bug 357722) under Windows with install of Opera 9.5 and 9.6 :frown:
Hope this will be fixed in 9.60 Final.

Gordon Griswold 20. September 2008, 12:40

The Build # for the Mac version of 9.6B reads 5224 NOT 5228 in the About Opera screen. Is this a coding error or a regression in Mac version of OP 9.6B?:yikes:

piotersu 20. September 2008, 15:28

On my Linux system Opera detects newest Flash 10 RC, but it doesn't display any plugin content, just blank space on page.
Got this output when run from console:
opera: Plug-in 4909 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.

David 20. September 2008, 16:19

Can anyone get this page to work? The video and buttons dont really work until I reload the page - then it seems to work.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/17/campaign.wrap/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

Mr. Patton 20. September 2008, 16:34

I take my words back. Gmail replying message is broken again ... sometimes I can reply a mail like it is supposed to do it, sometimes I can't enter a reply: textbox is not selectable.

Raafel 20. September 2008, 16:59

@davidviolin, nothing here too. Black image without sound. :frown:


Another flash problem: Oprah media page doesn't work: http://www.oprah.com/media/20080919_tows_charice

Can anyone confirm, please?

equate 20. September 2008, 18:29

Compusa has layout problem where the header/menu at the top is messed up not allowing it to be clickable.

http://www.compusa.com/

Also in that error at

http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html

Once you get a new email, the button that states "Click here to copy this e-mail address to your clipboard." Does not work.

kaitum 20. September 2008, 21:09

Thanks for the new snapshot!

A new issue for me with this one is:

My RSS feeds freeze when they update now...

chasterford 20. September 2008, 21:46

Sometimes I have difficulties with high cpu usage. If I start to scroll in this window cpu load will go to normal use:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/


Here pictures inside this frame will not be displayed:
http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews_fujifilm_finepix_f100fd_2.php

Could anybody confirm?

Raafel 20. September 2008, 22:25

@chasterford, confirmed. The first site gets all the CPU (one thread) for itself, but if you scroll, it stops.

The second site works perfectly here.

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