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New Peregrine build

By Haavardhaavard. Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:51:34 PM

We've finally got a new snapshot available for testing. As always, try to keep the comments on-topic. If you are wondering what, where and how you should post, take a look at the FAQ.


WARNING: This is a development snapshot: it contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.


What's new?
This time around there are lots of fixes all over. Some things are work in progress, such as the spell checking feature (see the changelog).

Mail database corruption check
In this build, Opera will also check the mail database for corruption on startup. If one of the files is found to be not consistent, Opera will try to recover that file. You can find information about how the process went in the recovery.log file in the mail folder. At the moment, this consistency check happens on every startup, and will delay the startup a bit. This is going to be improved in future builds, and the consistency check will likely happen for every update or on a monthly schedule.

Known issues
  • Sending private messages at Facebook doesn't work
  • Comments at digg.com overlap
  • Spelling checker isn't working for some users
  • If the Opera Mail lexicon is corrupt, it isn't correctly recovered
  • The names in the online feed dropdown are not showing correctly in the feed preview page

General changelog
  • Core fixes (including fixes for getElementsByClassName, which should now work with multiple classes in className)
  • Regex \b is now correctly not matching the point between a letter and underscore
  • Several autoupdate fixes (disabling it should work now)
  • Several stability fixes
  • Fixed Facebook chat
  • Some UI cleanup and polishing (moved "Remove From Toolbar" and other toolbar customization options into a submenu, added the ability to reset toolbar customization, and the mail spinner should look better)
  • Fixed search field crash
  • Added more online feed readers to the feed preview page

Mail
  • Mails can now have horizontal scrollbars
  • Fixes to mail compose - and adding links to HTML mails should now work fine
  • Added a recovery mechanism for corrupt mail databases
  • Fixed feed progress stuck on non-existent resources
  • Attachments in multipart/mixed part of multipart/alternative mail are now correctly displayed

Windows
  • Fixes for font fallback problems, particularly for those using Russian as their default language in Windows

Unix
  • Fixed painting of windowless plugins
  • Java now works again!

Mac
  • Fixed position of plugin windows
  • Fixed crash on startup in Mac OS X 10.4
  • New Dock menu items

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Comments

Petter Nilsenmitchman2 Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:20:19 PM

First!

Andrew FrazierAndrewDFrazier Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:24:59 PM

Is the mail ordering by date fixed for the Mac?

Martin RauscherHades32 Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:27:02 PM

YEAH! Finally!!!

Andrew FrazierAndrewDFrazier Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:28:58 PM

No, doesn't look like it. When sorting so that the most recent is at the top they appear in 'blocks' so that the most recent batch of messages is at the top but within that batch the oldest one is at the top and the newest at the bottom.

Second AND fourth, BTW wink

ColKilkenny Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:38:18 PM

Seems like the problems with flashplugin (Linux, 64bit) are still there sad
Youtube works fine but some others are not working at all.

But cheers still.

edit. It seems that starting opera with -noargb fixes this. So it probably has something to do with the recent ARGB visual changes.

Tri M. NguyenTriMN Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:40:02 PM

o_O I like the slimmer tab bar on the mac! up

But there's is a little graphical bug there: http://files.myopera.com/TriMN/test/Picture%204.png

arghwashier Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:42:45 PM

Seems like the problems with flashplugin (Linux, 64bit) are still there
Youtube works fine but some others are not working at all.



same problem on 32bit sad

eg. this flash doesnt work at all:

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/427621/914899a8/nieuw_dier_wolter_bonzo.html

Tim AltmanJunyor Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:42:49 PM

@TriMN: Please provide details beyond a screenshot when you're reporting a problem. There's no obvious graphical issue in your screenshot.

Quantic Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:42:57 PM

what do you mean by:
"Spell checking is being moved over to the Hunspell API"?
what were we using?

MyOpera team, please fix this!fearphage Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:44:04 PM

Any of you have experience upgrading a classic install with the msi auto-upgrader? Any good or bad experiences?

Шуйский Николай [krigstask, Ŝtérkrìg]Sterkrig Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:44:26 PM

Not so much news as I hoped
Good snapshot, though (-:E

Zotlan Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:44:34 PM

Originally posted by Junyor:

@TriMN: Please provide details beyond a screenshot when you're reporting a problem. There's no obvious graphical issue in your screenshot.


I think he is talking about the small gap between the top of the tabs and the rest of the interface. Was that intended?

ColKilkenny Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:45:31 PM

@arghwashier: I updated my post. Try to start Opera with "opera -noargb" and see if it helps.

@devs: Should I submit bug because of this or is it known?

@quantic: I'd guess Aspell was the previous.

Gordon GriswoldG1000 Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:47:09 PM

Thanks for the new snapshot of OP 10. Glad you fixed Mac OSX 10.4.11 support. Appreciate your continuing developmet of Opera.

arghwashier Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:48:35 PM

"moved "Remove From Toolbar" and other toolbar customization options into a submenu"

it doesnt really make sense to create a sybmenu when there are no other menu entries, except the submenu entry itself

arekm Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:49:10 PM

this snap, qt4 version using system qt 4.5.0, i686 Linux, fast scrolling back and forth causes rendering corruptions (the same text is rendered twice with little shift etc). Same was happening in previous snap.

jogger.pl as example:
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9748/operajoggerpl.png

lampacz Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:50:55 PM

unix build still have problem with pkcs12 certificates:

The key of the certificate was encrypted using an unsupported method, possibly one that is not considered strong enough.

after import password dialog

arghwashier Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:51:20 PM

@ ColKilkenny, you are right. When I start opera with -noargb flash works...

Petter Nilsenmitchman2 Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:53:53 PM

@fearphage: there is a known issue updating a classic install with the MSI, some data files are not overwritten in the defaults directory.

Galileo Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:54:39 PM

Thank you for the build yes

arghwashier Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:54:48 PM

@arek, confirmed, this bug has been around for almost a year now in the qt4 version; this is actually going to be a problem (plus the fact there are no x86_64 qt4 builds) because qt3 is being dropped from distributions (at least mandriva 2009.1 spring will have no official qt3 support)

NicoHellbillyDeluxe Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:00:00 PM

Thanks a lot for the new Snapshot.

Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to the first Beta, with some "bigger" changes and a revamped GUI (if we will get any wink).

arekm Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:01:36 PM

Also file selector seems broken (qt4 version), I see only dirs and the glob is "(*.*)(*)" so it actualy matches no files somehow (tested on avatar upload at my.opera.com).

hogehogehoge Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:03:43 PM

can't install
http://files.myopera.com/hogehogehoge/files/opera_10_1345.png

WinXPsp3 (Japanese version)

Zotlan Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:03:44 PM

hmm, auto-update seems not to be working again?
Has the new build simply not yet been uploaded to those servers or is something wrong with my installation?


Also file selector seems broken (qt4 version), I see only dirs and the glob is "(*.*)(*)" so it actualy matches no files somehow (tested on avatar upload at my.opera.com).


I've had the same problem. Switching to the GTK selector works around it.

Nonox Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:03:46 PM

Thx

There is a regression on http://www.dattebayo-fr.com , the left menu doesn't work anymore. It works with all the previous versions/snapshots. (Mac version Leopard)

The "tracker BT" button on the top menu, doesn't work anymore too.

Tri M. NguyenTriMN Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:07:51 PM

@Zotlan that's right

@Junyor there's gap there between the title bar and the tab (which have been in earlier Opera builds on the Mac) But there's no gap on the buttons (which should be the "right" thing?): http://files.myopera.com/TriMN/test/opera_gap.jpg

It's a clean install with its own Preferences Folder. So no modifications.

haruto8861 Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:07:57 PM

The line feed code of the character string copy is corrected.
Thanks.
However, there is a bug in the installer.
The dialog font is broken when trying to install it in Japanese Windows and it crashes when I try Japanese Install.
Quick correction, please.

traaance Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:08:38 PM

hi
in installation bug with fonts/language http://xs137.xs.to/xs137/09112/opera_lang_wtf645.png
but in next all seems to be ok http://xs537.xs.to/xs537/09112/opera_lang_ok420.png

Vlad Randomvladfrandom Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:10:16 PM

ACID3: 99/100

arekm Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:12:15 PM

Another one, opera, qt3 shared version, linux i686, go to http://domena.pl, block flash on top and now you won't be able to do anything on the page (like switching between hosting->vps->dedykowane tabs). The same bug was in previous devel snapshot. Works fine in stable opera.

experttease Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:14:10 PM

Ditto autoupdate, no such luck here (I had it set to notify me in the Security tab). Going manual. Also, Help>check for updates yields no result.

Tim AltmanJunyor Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:14:31 PM

@vladfrandom: 100/100 here.

arghwashier Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:14:41 PM

does anyone how to make a .desktop file for opera so opera is started with the -noargb flag, I can't seem to get a working .desktop after adding it sad

Bill PBill_P Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:19:59 PM

just 'cause sooner or later someone will ask:

64bit qt4 for Linux?

Tri M. NguyenTriMN Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:20:45 PM

@Junyor the tabs got to "normal size" sad with a big gap again after a restart( http://files.myopera.com/TriMN/test/opera_gapgap.png ). It might just be a UI bug after changing from Native theme to Opera Standard theme.

But I liked the slim Opera Standard bar, (WITH NO GAP!) sad

Bill PBill_P Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:27:22 PM

Java working - not for me on 64bit Linux with the browser plugin (1.7.0) and yes it works in FF.

wellofsouls Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:33:56 PM

I'll wait for the auto-update.

Haavardhaavard Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:36:34 PM

Originally posted by arghwashier:

it doesnt really make sense to create a sybmenu when there are no other menu entries, except the submenu entry itself

It would have made sense, as it keeps people from removing things by accident. But you should see 3 entries: Remove, reset, and "Appearance".

Originally posted by lwiczek:

This is very confusing. If it's not working why/how Opera underlines misspelled words?! O_o

I see no underlines. Are you using build 1345?

MichaelAndyleeSato Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:43:31 PM

Keep up the good work. Anyway I got an issue with the RSS-reader, because in the preview Opera does not seem to recognise any html-code (for example "ü" )
This is very annoying. Is this my fault (wrong configuration) or Operas?

Zotlan Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:47:01 PM

Originally posted by haavard:

I see no underlines. Are you using build 1345?


I do in 1345 but not in 4205.

Morphdreamer Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:55:43 PM

I see no underlines. Are you using build 1345?


Spelling checker works fine for me in this build too (but english dictionary is gone).

BTW Comments on digg.com are messed up.

belthur Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:05:22 PM

Whoa !! Thanks....

netwolf Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:06:57 PM

Thanks for the new build!

Could you please provide some info WRT spellchecker? I mean, wasn't Hunspell already introduced in the last snapshot(s)?

@arghwashier: do you have a custom menu.ini which did not get updated with the new submenu items?

Zotlan Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:08:04 PM

Excellent! The ING site works more or less properly again.

Ravindran NavaneethanRavindran Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:08:15 PM

Thanks for the new build.

But the bug with Google reader (keyboard shortcut 'v' opening a new blank window, but not navigating to the URL) is still there. I logged the bug with the earlier build, but don't remember it.

alicroche Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:16:00 PM

Netvibes still broken knockout

Passie Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:20:00 PM

I'm unable to send attachments with opera 10.x could anybody confirm this ?

PhoenixP3Kphoenixp3k Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:30:55 PM

Guys, that warning label seems pretty big. I mean isn't larger than usual.
I'm still going to try it out.

Nonox Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:31:38 PM

@Passie: I can't send attachments too with HTML formatting. It's OK with plain text. I think it's a know issue. There are encoding problems in mails too. Accentuated letters are replaced by "?".

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