Snapshot build with preview of the *new* Skin
By Jon Hickshicksdesign. Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:11:06 PM
Things to bear in mind while you're playing with this:
- What you see here is neither complete nor final, and there will be more iterations before the final release. Some elements will still look like the current skin!
- Currently the skin is implemented for the default setup, tabs at the top, panels on the left, panel toolbar on the left and status bar at the bottom. Other setups will look a bit odd - for now.
- This build doesn't include the new features in Opera 10, so one of the reasons for the revised skin isn't there. All we be clear when the beta comes out!
A more descriptive post about the thinking behind the new skin, and why we're changing it will follow with the beta. For now, give it time to 'settle down' and see what you think!
Please post your skin feedback in this forum thread.
We have also hit another issue no other browser has run into (yet!). By reaching the version number 10 we have noticed several high-profile sites and frameworks breaking because of wrong browser sniffing. Opera 10 gets (erroneously!) detected as... Opera 1. We have modified the UA string to read
Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.2.15 Version/10.00
(or similar - depending on your platform). The "real" version is added at the end of the string. We will publish a more detailed explanation of this soon. Please let us know if you come across some web sites that break now because of this change!
Update:
We have published today an article that details the UA string change. Make sure to read it.
Known Issues
- There are several issues with the skin: Speed Dial is unfinished, there are missing/outdated icons, some things may be placeholders/work in progress, and so on
- [DSK-253836] When reading mails, headers only show e-mail addresses rather than "name" <e-mail@address.invalid> for senders not in your contact list
Changelogs
- Some fixes to crash upload dialog
- Use default search engine rather than a specific search engine when tying two or more words and pressing Enter
- [DSK-180617] Links opened in external applications closes page if page is opened from a panel or mail
- [DSK-239506] Can't correct spelling using only the keyboard
- [DSK-251332] Changing the size of the searchfield when the addressbar is placed on the left causes it to disappear forever
- [DSK-251349] Search box and address field are misaligned
- [DSK-252737] No timeout when new spelling checker dictionaries can't be retrieved
- [DSK-252992] "Other Application..." doesnt' work in the BitTorren Client Selection dialog
- [DSK-253202] Replace 'Language' with 'Dictionary' in dictionary download wizard and spellcheck menu
Skinning improvements:
- Made the splitter dividers separately skinable with the sections [Splitter Horizontal Divider Skin] and [Splitter Vertical Divider Skin]. Remember their height/width is always 3px
- Text-shadow ability in the skin
Search UI updates:
- Use "?" as a shortcut (instead of, e.g., "g") in the URL field to search with the default search engine
- Show "Search the Web" and use the default search engine rather than Google specifically in the URL dropdown when typing in one or more words in the URL field
Core
- Reverted [CORE-14999] Send DOMContentLoaded when the parsing is complete even if it's discovered a little later than usual
- Partial fix: [CORE-20956] Wand does not submit if form includes two input fields and a password field
- [CORE-466] vertical-align is not inherited in tables
- [CORE-3587] Float not reset to none for absolutely positioned elements
- [CORE-4589] designMode: Text entered after creating link turns into link
- [CORE-8335] BiDi: Unable to reach end position of hilight text
- [CORE-17018] WebFonts break when using the OpenType format
- [CORE-19215] Deleted selected string incorrectly rolls back when composing using IME in editable document
- [CORE-19836] non-visible WMP not initialized
- [CORE-20012] Fastmail rich text editing breaks interface
- [DSK-244367] Error page on unsupported HTTP authentication scheme instead of showing the response body
Stability
- Mail: Crash fix for opening sent message that didn't have body
- Spelling checker: Crash fix for dictionaries that seems installed, but do not get picked up by the spellcheck module for some reason.
- Spelling checker: Fixed crash if the dictionary is downloaded but the check sum is not correct
- Fixes based on automated crash reporting
- [CORE-19581] Opera crash on searching text on a specific page
- [CORE-20406] Opera crashes on positioning tasks in Gmail2
- [CORE-20470] Calling referenced native function crashes opera
- [CORE-20598] Blog feed freezes Opera/doesn't load when Delayed Script Execution is enabled
- [CORE-20930] Inserting BODY element into existing BODY tag causes crash
- [CORE-20950] Crash at Facebook because of NULL base url (most common crash for Opera Mini)
- [CORE-21171] Freezes and eats all memory within seconds on certain pages (eztv.it, funfile.org)
- [DSK-223018] BitTorrent: Unreproducible bittorrent crash when selecting items in transfers panel
- [DSK-223722] Opera freeze for a long time when viewing transfers
- [DSK-240287] BitTorrent: Crash after downloading a few torrents
- [DSK-240724] Going to a fraud URL with a username crashes Opera
- [DSK-242050] Crash while managing feed items
- [DSK-249422] Crash when clicking certain mails
- [DSK-252115] "Feeds > (Feed name) -> Click on Post -> From -> Follow Contact" crashes Opera
- [DSK-252764] Setting feed update interval to 5 minutes for a lot of feeds makes Opera use too much memory over time
- [DSK-253542] Check spelling doesn't work or crashes in upgrade installation
- Fixed threading of reopened drafts
- Better error handling to avoid duplicate mails
- A new error message from m2 when a message fails to be indexed
- Added format=flowed parameters to the content-type header
- Fixes to "show sent" mail in threaded view
- Enable "show sent" when setting Sent IMAP folder
- Do the consistency check on exit after upgrade
- Wrapping should depend on account settings
- Show a bit more relevant context menu when using context menu button in compose window
- [DSK-189699] Mails are not sorted on latest message in thread view
- [DSK-199963] M2 doesn't add a name to e-mail address when composing the e-mail from existing address
- [DSK-233440] Dragging message between IMAP accounts sometimes fails
- [DSK-239836] Forwarding a feed in HTML will include the word "article" in a huge font
- [DSK-224803] Cannot view email headers if text/plain not opened by Opera: Force viewer to be Opera when opening raw mail
- [DSK-244169] Font used in body field doesn't reflect font in drop-down
- [DSK-246522] The compose action opens webmail page instead of compose window
- [DSK-247011] Automatic RTL detection on reply
- [DSK-247788] M2 wrongly claims that there are no new messages when connection to server is interrupted
- [DSK-248265] Hide HTML formatting in newsgroup compose window
- [DSK-248267] Directionality detection missing when editing an existing email
- [DSK-248543] The last part of Japanese Subject is not shown
- [DSK-249350] Database consistency check should be periodic
- [DSK-250841] Drafts appear in received folder when any characters was entered into the to field
- [DSK-251008] Opening a mail copy from Sent, changing its To address and sending it, replaces the copy in Sent instead of creating a new sent email entry
- [DSK-252156] Forced exporting mail option
- [DSK-252235] Upgrading results in duplicate and blank messages
- [DSK-252238] "Show read" gets unchecked for Received view when upgrading
- [DSK-252495] Bottom border in mail compose area missing
- [DSK-252658] Fetch all e-mails when switching from Low-bandwidth mode to "Make all messages available offline"
- [DSK-253417] Mail folder not copied when upgrading from 9.64
- [DSK-253425] To, CC, and BCC fields not shown when opening Mail in Sent view
Chat
- Partial fix: [DSK-246177] Connnecting to a malevolent IRC server can render Opera usuable with too many modal dialog popups
- [DSK-228014] Saving IRC/Chat window silently fails if MHT or "HTML with images" is chosen
- [DSK-248365] IRC password not memorized when using /join command
- [DSK-253327] Joining a password protected channel for the first time via a typed join command fails
Opera Link
- [DSK-249571] Link queue not sent when exiting Opera
Opera Turbo
- Context menu changes
- Changes to the Turbo dialog
- Adding Turbo icons for the turbo notification dialog
- [DSK-247507] Turbo button not automatically added to status bar in upgrade installations
- [DSK-248836] Turbo mode not keyboard accessible
- [DSK-249981] Turbo: Text color for the turbo button is not changeable by skin
- [DSK-252890] Turbo status icons should respect the text-only option
- [TURBO-159] A placeholder is needed for plugins that are not loaded yet: Changing the icon
- [TURBO-183] Turbo state not switched after clicking JavaScript links
- [TURBO-220] Tabs opened from mail, chat etc. windows should use global setting to determine Turbo Mode state
- [TURBO-224] Correct handling of history positions when reloading in new Turbo Mode state
Windows
- Fixed a problem that would prevent the previous opera instance to be registered for uninstallation
- Added registry value indicating whether installation was done by administrator
- [DSK-226188] Extension lost when renaming a file in the save dialog to include a period
- [DSK-231787] Unable to set default browser in the Start Menu
- [DSK-245142] Removed spellcheck.dll, as it's no longer needed for new spelling checker
- [DSK-245686] Silverlight crash when reloading quickly
- [DSK-246447] Can't install Opera with a limited account
- [DSK-246448] Fix for automatic updates with limited (non-admin) XP accounts
- [DSK-251584] Hidden popup blocks installation process when Opera is still running
- [DSK-252544] Information about installation directory missing must not be handled by browser
- [DSK-253587] Ddouble file extensions added on download
Mac
- [CORE-19054] Fix for showing print preview)
- [DSK-248272] Possible to insert non-images using Insert > Image)
- [DSK-248013] Sub-menu items replace menu items in the Opera menu)
Unix
- Removed '-nosession' as a separate command line option. It is already handeled as an alias to '-nowin'
- [DSK-230698] Serious drawing issues in the Qt4 build
- [DSK-235281] Refresh causes Opera to go backwards in history after interaction with Flash
- [DSK-251177] navigator.plugins.refresh() takes long time; cache the plugin information
- [DSK-251573] Don't renice pluginwrapper to 19
- [DSK-251805] Hang when doubleclicking text while flash is running
WARNING: This is a development snapshot: it contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.
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zoquete # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:47:57 PM
new emoticons:
nice old emoticons used since 7.5x:
Jacek Godlewskijacekgodlewski # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:48:09 PM
As far as new skin is concerned, I would also like buttons "less separated" and use less pixels in vertical.
Active tab distinct, at last!
Overall impression very good.
Good work, Opera Team. Keep it up!
evgeny-ig # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:51:14 PM
Cyro # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:58:10 PM
Originally posted by zoquete:
I agree. The old emoticons were much better. Maybe they change their mind and roll back.
John BarnettJohn164 # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:58:14 PM
Originally posted by TriMN:
Windows. That might explain why it works with my system and not yours.
John BarnettJohn164 # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:00:16 PM
Originally posted by mgillespie:
Same thing happened with me.
zoquete # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:01:10 PM
My avatar has been inspired by the old pacman
cyb0y # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:05:19 PM
Haavardhaavard # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:15:57 PM
cyb0y, please read the known issues list before commenting.
Originally posted by silas.lenz:
No, it's a snapshot. Treat it like (pre-)alpha software.z25blink # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:20:10 PM
Jacek Godlewskijacekgodlewski # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:20:30 PM
Too large spaces - if any needed - between buttons.
Nice new mail view button "show sent to" but I cannot see menu eqiuvalent.
Generally, very good job, congratulations1
Opera long-years-user
z25blink # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:21:49 PM
Marcelo Javierpunkesito # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:22:28 PM
MichailNTMan # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:30:37 PM
z25blink # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:32:22 PM
Now is Presto 2.2.15
What does it mean? Explain it. Is there any new chanches or is older Presto build?
Andrey # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:33:02 PM
FataL # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:36:25 PM
Originally posted by sysakPL:
Hate those Adobe and Apple skins, that just cover native Windows application title bar.
z25blink # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:37:40 PM
(For Me too)
Finally!!! Auto-update feature working fine!
No problems with bookmarks or other profile settings.
(Only change default language file to english. I had to find my language in other folder)
FataL # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:42:06 PM
Originally posted by evgeny-ig:
Can confirm!MyOpera team, please fix this!fearphage # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:43:19 PM
Originally posted by tsarhan:
Alt-F11 on all non-windows OS's. You can enable it manually in windows via Preferences > Advanced > Shortcuts > Keyboard.Originally posted by FataL:
Details please.Originally posted by z25blink:
.2 -> .3 ...etc... .8 .9 .10 .11 -> .15z25blink # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:46:29 PM
It is annoying to push stop/reload button in all webs
LamboMan # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:48:22 PM
There also seems to be a problem with the way the icons in the bookmarks dropdown menu are displayed. It shows only the new default opera skin icons and not the ones which come with any other skin which i use(all from My Opera Skins section).
The default skin is also being displayed in the panels instead of what should be shown when i use a different skin.
Other than these, i can't seem to find any problems.
BottleField # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:55:35 PM
New colored icon is beautiful.
Opera 9.5 skin was ugly, and I hope, new skin will be totally different.
Andresandresruiz # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:06:48 PM
FataL # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:07:51 PM
Originally posted by fearphage:
Simulating Chrome's Omnibar in OperaEnabling google's I'm feeling lucky search after failed url attempt (and more)
But Chrome works little better for me always going fast to search keywords without standard "http, ftp, etc." prefixes. Also it give me a warning for local host names if it match the keyword.
For example: "Did you mean to go to http://intranet/ ?" And after I click that proposed link every other time I type "intranet" Chrome always go to http://intranet instead googling it.
And all that is default behaviour of Chrome.
omnivox # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:08:15 PM
XenoAntaresXAntares # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:11:40 PM
I get a basic plain OK-button-messagebox stating something like "Unable to start module 43" (I know, literal reporting of error messages is rather essential for the developers – so forgive my bad memory tonight. ;))
Sergio Uribesuribe # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:14:58 PM
LamboMan # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:25:58 PM
I mean, it has lost that nice glossy effect in a lot of places, especially the tabs. The tabs should really be worked upon. Addition of some nice highlights, shadows, metallic shine etc. to them would help Opera in attracting new customers easily. I for one liked Opera when i first saw it because the default skin looked great. It had nice mouse over effects on tabs and buttons, but all this seems to have been lost in this 'upgrade'.
Hope the team corrects the problems quickly. We love you Opera!
Kamaleshkamalesh # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:26:49 PM
I like the cool progress circle on the tab when it loads (replaced by favicon when it fully loads).
Publisher # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:40:29 PM
very nice new skin.
Some small Things.
- could be make the Scrollbar darker?
- The Buttons on the Panel look bad when they on top or bottom.
- when given the Bookmark menu drag & drop?
Ivo Naninckinaninck # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:40:38 PM
Version 10.00 Beta
Build 4394
Platform Linux
Mağruf ÇolakoğluZAHEK # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:41:03 PM
Haavardhaavard # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:46:47 PM
Originally posted by HerwigF:
Unfortunately, there are more sites out there than the Jana proxy.The decision was made to do this because too many sites were affected. It was not an easy decision. I guess it's an easy decision if one does not have to work on site compatibility issues every day.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could all ignore the real Web and always do what's "right"? We can keep dreaming and wishing. But in the meantime, we have to deal with the real Web.
Keane Mcgoughkeanebean86 # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:00:16 PM
DStrohma # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:02:07 PM
also all the mail icons
János, Vinczevinczej # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:04:31 PM
Ravindran NavaneethanRavindran # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:11:58 PM
XenoAntaresXAntares # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:30:00 PM
Trying to launch Opera after some seconds I get an error message box under the title "Opera" displaying: "Error initializing Opera: module 44".
A Filemonitor reveals, that the last files Opera accessed before aborting with this message are Widget-.zips and their cache-folders (%LocalAppdata%\Opera\Opera\widgets\<id>\cache\*).
Ednilson Maiaemaia # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:30:47 PM
Other characters ok... ó ç ã... Only "^" bug.
With any letter... 6Â 6â 6ô...
In other applications, my keyboard is ok!
Versão 10.00 Beta
Build 6466
Plataforma Mac OS X
Sistema 10.5.7
Java Java Runtime Environment instalado.
And... pt_br
origPumu # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:33:05 PM
This new one is ugly.
MalinMalinkh # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:33:30 PM
fernando823Fer84 # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:51:06 PM
-I deeply hate the hearts in the fav icons, and the green/blue color in them as well.
-The 'closed tabs' icon was more intuitive before!
-The rounded shape of the tabs is not of my taste. Maybe something like this would be better / \
-The 'new tab' button was better before.
-The old delete private data button (!) was better.
-In general the buttons of the address bar were better before, and they need more horizontal space now.
-Like in previous skin, there's a lot of vertical space wasted, and status bar is higher than previous version
+Tabs bar integrated with address bar
+I dislike the previous black folders icons, the new ones looks better.
+Panels tab looks better
+The wand button is more intuitive now, in fact, IMO it should not be called wand anymore. But I'd put some yellow to that key when passwd are available
+More contrast between active and inactive tabs
+Progress circle on the tab while loads (but if animated better)
*Show thumb preview when dragging tabs
*Integrate file bar and personal bar
*Related: open new links on the right of active 'group' of tabs, like IE or Chrome
Why don't you add some animations, transparencies and especially, increase the vertical space? Those are the only reasons that make changing the skin worth, cause it was not so bad before.
Again IMHO, this skin has nothing to do with Chromes one.
lamarca lamarca # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:52:35 PM
Marekmarol # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:03:16 PM
I like the new look and can't wait to see the beta.
Sierd027 # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:17:34 PM
But... please stop this, and get back on the road again.
Awful design, childish, and it looks very cheap.
Also the email part is brrrrrrrr.
Don't do this please.
Previous build was a lot better.
DreemerNJ # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:19:25 PM
LaliLali19871014 # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:24:59 PM
Between the Address bar and tab bar are to little place.
Doliprane'Doliprane # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:26:08 PM
Ricardo FerreiraRichardCooper # Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:59:31 PM
The connetion to gmail frezzes (pop3).
The "ok" button in the settings some times doesn't work.
Congratulations for new skin