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Opera 10.0 Beta 3

By Haavard. Thursday, 13. August 2009, 08:00:00

Opera 10.0 Beta 3 is now available for download!

So what are we focusing on this time around?

Stability

We have been doing a lot of work on stability since beta 1 and beta 2, which means that this is likely one of our most stable releases ever. Keep reporting those crashes, though! We want to make Opera even more stable for the final version.

Opera in your language

This beta has also been translated into nearly 40 languages, so give it a spin and look for any problems with the available translations (please see the list of known issues). Let us know about any problems you encounter with the translations through comments here or in the beta forum, and through the Bug Report Wizard. With your help, we can ensure that Opera works great with all supported languages.

Visuals

On the visual site, the skin has received further facelifts, including a new attention state design where a dot tells you if a page is unviewed. Visual tabs can also be placed to the left or right, which is especially useful for widescreen monitors.

Known Issues

  • The Dutch translation is missing a few strings
  • Can't install a different Asian language on some Asian language Windows computers

Beta 3 changelog and download

The beta 3 changelog is available for Windows, Mac and Linux.

Download beta 3!

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Opera Unite and beta 3?

Don't worry, we haven't forgotten about Opera Unite!

It might not be part of beta 3, but we have still been working hard on improving it. So for those of you who want to test that, please download one of the builds below instead of the official beta 3. These builds are basically the same as beta 3, only with Unite included.

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

Download Snapshot With Unite


Snapshot Changelog

User Interface
  • Fixed Bug DSK-260997 (Crash when closing a page with inline find dialog still open)

Core
  • Reverted Fix to Bug CORE-22242 (Fixed some hardcoded strings for unstyled XML pages)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-260922 (Crash when exiting Opera with Unite enabled)

Opera Unite
  • Fixed an access control problem with the Photosharing Service
  • Fixed ASD related problems with the old Photosharing Service when updating
  • Fixes to the Home, Mediaplayer, Photosharing and Messenger services
  • Fixed Bug DSK-253358 (Upgrading from one unite build to another adds non-working services)
  • Fixed Bug CORE-23364 (UPnP service discovery doesn't work any more): untrusted device classified as error and removed

Windows
  • Use a higher quality image for mail systray icon on systems where it is possible

Time to try Unite again!Please, more complaints!

Comments

Tamil 13. August 2009, 08:05

:up:

IKoke 13. August 2009, 08:09

:up:

Galileo 13. August 2009, 08:09

:hat:

Nico 13. August 2009, 08:11

Glad to hear it's official now :smile:.

By the way: The "Latest Snapshots" category on the right side of this page still links to the old Snapshots.

Furkan 13. August 2009, 08:11

Is changelog poor for a new beta?

z@h3k 13. August 2009, 08:12

Thanks.

lugansk 13. August 2009, 08:20

Thanks!

MVE 13. August 2009, 08:23

I can't open my letters on live.com in 1651, 1679, 1691, 1699 and 1701. Fix this bug please. I can't wait anymore!

metude 13. August 2009, 08:23

:up:

haruto8861 13. August 2009, 08:25

Why disabled IME on '/'search？

ShadowFX 13. August 2009, 08:26

Not sure if it's something on my end, but I can't load up Gmail. It says the URI is too long. Can anyone else verify? I logged out of my account to try to sign in on another, if that's of any importance.

Ismo Hänninen 13. August 2009, 08:26

This page won't open all the way.
It did, just took like 5 minutes.

Furkan 13. August 2009, 08:31

Originally posted by ShadowFX:

ShadowFX # 13. August 2009, 10:26


Not sure if it's something on my end, but I can't load up Gmail. It says the URI is too long. Can anyone else verify? I logged out of my account to try to sign in on another, if that's of any importance.



Same here with Google Reader.

Mimi's Mum 13. August 2009, 08:32

Good job, team. Thank you for your hard work. Downloading +Unite build while the official Beta's autoupdating.

CypherNEUK 13. August 2009, 08:34

I have noticed a new config setting:
opera:config#Network|AllowCrossDomainAccess
I was wondering how this affects CrossDomain access with XMLHttpRequests, and what is required to get them to work.
As always another great release :D

Arturo 13. August 2009, 08:43

Alway after update, icons from bottom bar disappear... U shuold fix this DT. :wink: Btw. changelog is minimal so it's going to RC soon! :wink:

Btw. Strange behaviour Opera with Unite. Graphics can't load on DT... Release without unite doesn'a have this problem. After time I reload it's everytnig alright

IKoke 13. August 2009, 08:45

Bug..

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2815/kotor26.jpg

Look at the menu bar, there are two! This happens when it expands the search box, change box shortcuts while, etc..!

Wladimir 13. August 2009, 08:46

I have a problem in the network in my company, that's why I can't post you an URL.
We have a SSO (single sign on) login site which forwards to the real site, after login. So if you call a certain site and no valid session is available for you, you will be redirected to the SSO-site, after logging in you are redirected to the site you originally have called.

For some reason since the previous snapshot (or maybe since some snapshots before) Opera comes in a loop:

1. Calling a site without session -> redirect to SSO site works.
2. Logging in works, too. But after that the SSO site (HTTPS) tries to redirect to a HTTP site and shows a warning. After choosing "continue", the last site is called again with the warning HTTPS->HTTP and so on...

It definiteley worked in one of the previous snapshots...

Has someone a similar problem?

MyOpera team, please fix this! 13. August 2009, 08:49

Originally posted by Beta 3 changelog:

HTML clipboard now works with both MS Office® and OpenOffice.org®

Any more details about this?

Are these showstopper-able?
DSK-254092 - unable to find text in unstyled xml documents (post prettification) (sample 1 sample 2)
DSK-245578 Overrides/ignores stylesheets for RSS feeds (sample)

They seem relatively important since this is the first time opera has styled xml and rss feeds at all. Seems optimal that they'd work properly.

Galileo 13. August 2009, 08:51

Gmails opens fine and i can read mail on hotmail.

Groovy 13. August 2009, 08:53

Links in Error Console to Source needs Comments on hover.

Preferences-Advanced-Browsing-Show_window_menu - It should say "Show 'Window' menu in Menu Bar" or something to increase clarity.

On opera:* pages keyboard shortcut for Zoom is not working. Intentional?

Print preview: keyboard shortcut for zoom makes Opera "unzoom" (DSK-257118).

"Create search" is available in right click menu in source viewer (DSK-260122).

"Synchronization disabled" in Status Bar - please remove if user is not using Opera Link.

Compare Error page ( http://no.page.com/ ) in 9.6 and new one. Old one looks more professional.

Opera Chat: When you go offline, wrong status sign (Online) stays next to server name (forum topic).

karnayna 13. August 2009, 09:02

I get lots of those annoying "Request queued..." status messages. Haven't seen them with any of the 10... builds.

Anyone else?

Vectronic 13. August 2009, 09:10

Originally posted by silencer22:

Btw. changelog is minimal so it's going to RC soon!


I hope not, IMHO Opera 10 is still quite a ways from RC.

Originally posted by kokeee:

Look at the menu bar, there are two!


What? I've stared at that image now like 5 times, still can't find anything wrong with it. Unless you mean that the Menu is enabled, but the button is still there, I noticed that too.

Is the slowness of the site (and never completes, some images never load, etc) because all 100 Opera users (joke) are downloading Beta3, or is it something else?

Matthew Brown 13. August 2009, 09:12

The MSI is in French only. The classic installer runs but then gives me an error saying, "you do not have administrator privileges. Run the installer again as an administrator." Of course, I AM logged in as the administrator (only user of the PC, in fact).

Hoborg 13. August 2009, 09:19

Very Good...

It seems we're very close to final version :hat:

coolmyll 13. August 2009, 09:19

You cant remove the Show menu button (if you disable your menu bar) in any way now :frown:

MyOpera team, please fix this! 13. August 2009, 09:19

Originally posted by @hicksdesign:

BTW: This is how the tab bar should've looked in Opera 10 beta3, but necessary big fix didn't make it in time: http://bit.ly/dedcJ

(source)Hicksdesign screenshot

The problem is that the panel/sidebar icon still has a very distinct bottom. So when this is floating midair it still looks awkward and out of place. The other 2 icons, new tabs and undo/recycle bin, don't have anything that makes them look like they should be resting on some other surface. I think changing that icon would be optimal. Maybe a sideways pointing arrow "-->" with no tab part around it. Just throwing out ideas.

EDIT: I just noticed in the last 2 shots the close button has switched sides (like Anakin). Is that OS X only or is that a coming change to all? Sounds scary.

dgoemans 13. August 2009, 09:22

Messenger service is failing and your servers are insanely slow today. :/ it took 20 minutes to upload a profile image.

dgoemans 13. August 2009, 09:23

By messenger not working i mean i have a colleague 3 meters away from me using the same beta3 with unite and we can't chat.

Bugfixer 13. August 2009, 09:24

It's x-mas now. :D

Thanks Opera

rriiicchh 13. August 2009, 09:26

As of this build Opera still crashes on launch when startup box is enabled and click a link in a 3rd party application

DSK-257238

Opera still crashes sometimes when loading http://football365.com

Other than those two Opera is great for me, but of course those two occur 2 or 3 times a day on bad days.

Nicolas 13. August 2009, 09:26

Mod edit: English only, please.

Mark Gillespie 13. August 2009, 09:28

Originally posted by fearphage:

BTW: This is how the tab bar should've looked in Opera 10 beta3, but necessary big fix didn't make it in time: http://bit.ly/dedcJ



This explains alot, Hicks seems to be focusing on Mac, at the expense of Windows look and feel. On a Mac, there is no "menu bar", so the Panels button looks fine, however on Windows if you hide the menu bar, you have that pig-ugly thing hanging around at the side of the screen that stinks of a Windows afterthought...

Yoan Blanc 13. August 2009, 09:30

I tested it using Steve Souders UA Profiler: http://stevesouders.com/ua/

and it seems that the result is different than before? The overall score remains the same 6/11

Max Connections (HTTP/1.1): 20 (or 19) was 60
Cache Resource Redirects: yes was no

Build: 6612

Cheers

Lena 13. August 2009, 09:31

Issue with ALT+SHIFT still NOT FIXED!!!

Jan Henrik Helmers 13. August 2009, 09:32

The tab bar feels jittery when resizing, and slower in general than the rest of the UI. Please give it some more <3.

Egor 13. August 2009, 09:42

I hope the final release will be available as unite-free version too, for use in corporate networks.

Unite is not compatible with typical corporate security concerns (such as commercial data leakage prevention).

c1973 13. August 2009, 09:45

The following happens when I click a link in a Thunderbird mail:

1) Opera already running -> link opens
2) Opera not running -> Opera starts but opens only the saved session, not the link I clicked in the mail

XP SP3

Can anyone confirm?

Martin 13. August 2009, 09:53

Cool!

frajdek 13. August 2009, 09:58

No way to use Opera 10 in my company. We use proxy and opera asks for password all the time :-(

Opera Fanboy 13. August 2009, 09:58

I actually like the Native skin for Windows Vista :smile: . The Standard skin still needs some work but it's improving. I agree with the others who say the Menu button is ugly.
Also, I'm not sure if the trash can icon is very intuitive. I think newbies wouldn't know the purpose of that icon. On the whole, great work. Does this mean we are not going to see any more new features before Final and that we are only working on the stability now ?
I was hoping to see search suggestions implemented in the search bar before final. :whistle:

MyOpera team, please fix this! 13. August 2009, 10:00

Originally posted by Patatina:

Issue with ALT+SHIFT still NOT FIXED

I've seen people say this several times. What should alt-shift do and how is it broken?

g4qb 13. August 2009, 10:02

"alt-shift" issue might be related to this:

regression began with build 1679

9.2 shortcuts
ctrl-alt-w <> alt-ctrl-w

do it slowly, 1 keypress at a time
1. ctrl
2. alt
3. w
vs
1. alt
2. ctrl
3. w

one good reason to change to <Opera Standard>

would be interesting to do a poll on people who still use 9.2 keyboard s'cuts
eg.
ctrl-alt-shift-w = close other windows
ctrl-alt-t = show transfers

Robert90 13. August 2009, 10:09

Originally posted by fearphage:

Originally posted by Patatina:


Issue with ALT+SHIFT still NOT FIXED

I've seen people say this several times. What should alt-shift do and how is it broken?


On Windows Alt+Shift switches the keyboard layout/language settings (what you also can do if you the tiny keyboard next to the sys tray). But when you click Alt when Opera is focused Opera immediately reacts by opening the menu, which means you get the menu unwanted, and you can't switch the keyboard layout (because Opera already handles the Alt click)

The *nix version has also a problem with the "special" key's, when I click Ctrl+Esc to open KSysguard, I close KSysguard, and start to scroll in the Opera window, it thinks control is still pressed, and so it does zoom, instead of just scroll.

Edit:
Never mind about the *nix problem, seems to be fixed in this build/beta, but older builds had this behavior.

Edit2:
Thanks illiad

Joakim 13. August 2009, 10:09

Am i the only one who is not satisfied with the skin? I doubt there will be any major changes either...

illiad 13. August 2009, 10:11

Originally posted by ismoph:

ismoph # 13. August 2009, 08:26


This page won't open all the way.
It did, just took like 5 minutes.



may be low bandwidth caused by *everyone* trying to download it???

Joak1m: hey, if you dont like the jacket you were given, why dont you exchange it for one of the others????

http://my.opera.com/community/customize/skins

Vladimyr Ivanov 13. August 2009, 10:13

Aaaaaaaaaaaarh!
Tabs on the left still can not bound the page area, panels do instead. Oh no :bomb:

illiad 13. August 2009, 10:16

Originally posted by Vladimyr:

bound the page area


please explain.... :smile:

illiad 13. August 2009, 10:18

:o: :o: Robert90: you forgot a F, you shift.... :lol: :cool:

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