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Opera 10.0 Release Candidate

By Haavardhaavard. Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:00:00 AM

Opera 10.0 has reached the release candidate stage.

What this means is that Opera 10.0 should be considered to be in a stable state code-wise, and that only selected fixes will be added if necessary. Apart from those (if any), the RC should be considered ready for release testing for Opera 10.0.


Perhaps the most obvious change in this RC is the new application icon, designed by Oleg Melnychuk. The red O will continue to represent Opera, but it has received a major facelift. It is also available in bigger sizes that before for Windows and Mac, so that you can view it in all its glory on your desktop.

The document icon has also been updated.

Note to Mac and Windows users

This RC will no longer use the beta preferences on Mac, but will upgrade your old 9.64 preferences. Windows has been switched over to the non-beta installation path as well.

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Changelog

User Interface
  • New application icon
  • Fixed the new tab button on the sides
  • Various small Visual Tabs fixes
  • Fixed a BitTorrent crash
  • Fix to jumping up/down of the new tab button while on the sides
  • Fixed Bug DSK-195906 (Opera error page selects URL field when displayed, also when focus is already inside URL field)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-257578 ("..." in site titles in some cases overlap the close button)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-258585 (Can't remove menu button when main menu is disabled): The menu button can be removed as any other toolbar button now (upgraders may have to reset the toolbar first)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-261205 (Strings don't fit in Preferences > Downloads [pl])
  • Fixed Bug DSK-261206 (Strings don't fit in Preferences > Programs [pl])
  • Fixed Bug DSK-261757 (Missing "splitter" in bookmark split view)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-261933 (Text cut off in startup dialog (Polish translation))
  • Fixed Bug DSK-261962 ("Reset Toolbar to Its Default" resets all toolbars, not just the current)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-262181 (Empty [dropdown widget] section added to custom shortcuts by update)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-262283 (Skin.ini section inconsistencies)

Core
  • Various crash fixes
  • Fixed Bug CORE-19376 (Crash navigating history)
  • Fixed Bug CORE-23125 (Adding IFRAME with javascript: src through DOM adds history entry (Yandex))

Opera Mail
  • Fixed a crash
  • Fixed Bug DSK-245600 (Mail imported into account with no downloading of message bodies loses bodies)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-261035 (Crash when opening image attachments)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-261459 (Go to Unread View when requested, don't reuse a maximized mail view)

Windows
  • Crash Fix
  • Reverted Fix to Bug DSK-241262 (Error message when opening HTML files if Opera is not already running): This caused DSK-262363
  • Fixed Bug DSK-259756 (Installer removes icon pinned to the Windows 7 task bar)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-260498 (The list of closed tabs needs clicks to be shown)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-262363 (Other programs using the http protocol to open websites in Opera just open blank page in Windows Vista and Windows 7)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-259743 (Closed tabs and new tab buttons have non-native looks in native skin)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-262120 (Panel selector buttons in Native skin get Standard style when not on the left)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-262272 (Closed tabs and new tab positioned incorrectly when tabbar is placed on left or right side)

Mac
  • Fixed Bug DSK-261726 (Closed Tabs button overlaps tabs when set to right or left and new tab button is disabled)

Unix
  • Fixed Bug DSK-259575 (Dead keys don't seem to work on widgets)
  • Fixed Bug DSK-250495 (Spell checking not working for some UNIX users)

Another Unite roundOpera 10.0 Release Candidate 2

Comments

killdeer Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:26:08 PM

Any advice if I want to go back to the Beta release? Will a simple install work?

MartinMastermind1 Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:33:09 PM

Originally posted by patkoscsaba:

That is correct, it doesn't and should not ... as stated in the post:



Well you're wrong, on my XP machine at work (a Windows OS...) it did update all my bookmarks, feeds, toolbars and stuf.
I updated identical versions to RC, on from XP and the other from Win7.
My post was done after updating the Win7 machine having previously done the upgrade on XP, and that's why I said what I said.

ayespy Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:51:11 PM

Originally posted by eksasol:

One thing I notice is that after hiding my menubar, the show menubar button has also disappeared permanently and I don't know how to get it back.


It's because you upgraded with a custom toolbar setup. Try customizing appearance with "show hidden toolbars while customizing" checked. Then select that toolbar, go to buttons, and restore defaults. If that doesn't do it, you can press "alt" and get the menu. Then you have to use preferences/advanced/toolbars and select Opera Standard - OK. After that, you can return to any custom toolbar setup you were using before, and the button will stay.

Asteriks:WinMe[ PIII/800 MHz / 56k ]asteriks Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:56:13 PM

http://www.electricscotland.com/history/nation/images/david_hume.jpg

Whats wrong with Hume?

With k-meleon its a little bit better.

ayespy Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:08:07 PM

Originally posted by Rijk:

There was plenty wrong with the old icon.


Whatever. I'm sure you guys can figure out how to get smoother edges on the 16 pixel version of the new one. Small ver. looking very ragged here. Win XP SP3

Petter Nilsenmitchman2 Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:13:56 PM

Originally posted by illiad:

and then it is all ruined by build 1723.... hopefull will be fixed by RC...

no, all my horizontal space has been 'stolen' by excessive padding, *not* caused by the Skin, but by opera respecting the 'native' flag... I switch back to the non-native version, it looks ok..



I've tried to guess what you are actually talking about but fail. Please explain and post screen shots.

Vectronic Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:17:08 PM

Originally posted by asteriks:

Whats wrong with Hume?


You tell us.

That image displays the same in every browser I have (IE8, FF3.5, FF3.6, Safari 4, Chrome 2, Opera 10)

The only difference is that Opera displays it centered in the window, the rest display it top-left, which it does for any image smaller than the window (which i consider a useful feature)

Galileo Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:27:20 PM

Gmail and facebook working fine here, upgrade from 9.64.

NelsonnAFaNyA99 Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:45:26 PM

Why they dont want to fix turbo cache problem?? (clear on reopening)

Zukdeen Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:49:04 PM

I Think Beta 2 was better than this D;

Vectronic Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:54:32 PM

Originally posted by asteriks:

My Hume on PIII/128kb[WinMe]:


Looks like an incomplete download. Could try hitting F5, or clearing your cache, so it can re-download it again.

Asteriks:WinMe[ PIII/800 MHz / 56k ]asteriks Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:21:03 PM

Originally posted by Vectronic:

Originally posted by asteriks:

My Hume on PIII/128kb[WinMe]:

Looks like an incomplete download. Could try hitting F5, or clearing your cache, so it can re-download it again.



1.Same problem after F5/clearing cache
2.Same problem with K-meleon,seamonkey,IE6

Very strange!!!

lively Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:27:23 PM

RC is actually really good...but x.facebook.com still doesn't work. It is one of the most used sites and that should be fixed without errors...

Also, m not too sur about the new bright red icon. ITs too bright. USE the WINGOGI icon...it's way better than current.

andrewzandrewz1986 Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:28:01 PM

All of my search preferences don't work with Opera 10 RC... sad

Vectronic Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:28:56 PM

Originally posted by asteriks:

2.Same problem with K-meleon,seamonkey,IE6


Then don't blame Opera, I'm not sure how/what Opera uses for displaying JPEG files (whether it has internal code, or uses external libraries of the OS) but seems more likely that it's a corruption (or outdated plugin/dll) somewhere else.

test these 2 images
Same As Original
Re-Saved In Photoshop (JPG, Full Quality)

Or better yet:
Original
Re-Saved
(since My.Opera re-encodes the images on upload, the first 2 are sort of pointless)

Andresandresruiz Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:46:17 PM

Originally posted by Vectronic:

What's your resolution? 320x240? that context menu on mine is 340 pixels high, even on 640x480 it should still show without "More..."

Originally posted by andresruiz:

Windows Media Player Plug-in ... Adobe Reader Plug-in ... solve it just set Opera to launch the complete application

You should be able to do that yourself if the plug-ins don't work. Preferences -Advanced --Downloads then search for "pdf" and "wmv" or whatever, and change it from "Use Plug-In" to "Open with default/other application" which will likely already be setup "%path%" "%s" I don't use WMP, but PDFs work fine in mine with Adobe Acrobat (v8), you could try updating Adobe Reader, or checking this for what files it's using for WMP and Reader, they might be invalid. Also if you have a VirusScanner it might not be allowing "application interaction" between Opera, and WMP/Reader, so although Opera knows where the plug-in files are, it's not allowed to load them.


My display resolution is 1024 x 768, there is a lot of space free for the complete menu but Opera shows the "more items".
Yes, I can solve the plug-ins problems by myself, but the idea is that NORMAL PEOPLE wont be able to solve that, they're not techie people, they don't know how to deal with plug-ins... most of the people don't even know what a Plug-in is sad

Andresandresruiz Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:00:44 PM

Originally posted by Rijk:

I'm not sure what your issues are with the WMP and Adobe plug-ins. What Windows version do you use? Once the WMP plugin is installed from port25.technet.com, it works fine out-of-the box in a freshly installed Opera on Windows Vista.


Here at work and at home I use Windows XP, I've seen that issue on 5 PCs, it's only Opera's problem, on Firefox or Safari it works perfect sad after I click on "Open" on any .wmv file, Windows Media Player starts but displays: "Windows Media Cannot play the file. The player might not support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to compress the file"
BUT if I use "Windows Media Player" instead "Windows Media Player Plug-in" it Opens the video successfully.
The problem with PDF files is hard difficult to explain, it starts downloading the file but seems to stop downloading, when I try to click any button on the tab it doesn't work, the whole tab is like an image, if I click on other tab, example "youtube.com" and them go back to the PDF tab, I still see the youtube.con content but it's not functional it's just an image.

Vectronic Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:09:07 PM

Originally posted by andresruiz:

Yes, I can solve the plug-ins problems by myself, but the idea is that NORMAL PEOPLE wont be able to solve that


So what is your suggestion then? How can Opera solve that for "normal" people, without Opera becoming 150MB's with a background service that monitors and periodically informs the user their s**t might be broken?

If Opera found the plugin, then there is no reason for it to think that it won't work, and likely no way for it know if it doesn't work (not sure if there is any sort of specifications on the API's for np*.dll in that regard), so it can't automatically switch back to another loading option.

Not to say that it isn't Opera's fault, could be something like the Search problem a few builds back: Unable to find %s %s" nonsense, could be passing the wrong values to the plug-ins, but there again, there is Adobe Reader 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9... Acrobat 6, 7, 8 and 9... WMP 9, 10 and 11... all in common usage, all with different DLL's, and likely different error management, possibly even different API and such between say v6, and v9, so it's really hard for any application that deals with plug-ins to be all-encompassing nevermind being able to automatically fix things without it becoming essentially an Operating System.

Edgar P. NashNetegrof Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:17:27 PM

The Opera tray icon appear with a grey background and in other snapshot that was transparent. I used Ubuntu 9.04 Qt4.5.1 in x86_32 bits.

Kyle Bakerkyleabaker Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:27:14 PM

Originally posted by Netegrof:

The Opera tray icon appear with a grey background and in other snapshot that was transparent. I used Ubuntu 9.04 Qt4.5.1 in x86_32 bits.


This was fixed a couple of builds back, but the fix was reverted since it caused problems elsewhere. It's already a known issue.

ayespy Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:39:11 PM

Originally posted by andresruiz:

The problem with PDF files is hard difficult to explain



I see. Your .pdf problem appears to be a one-off. I have never seen anything like it in any install since 8.54 (and that was just failure to display in tab - not freezing tab) - and since 9.64, .wmp from the web works perfectly here, though not necessarily the case with .wmp attached to email - in which case, I save it and play it from the desktop.

Øzikzakatak Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:50:10 PM

gmail wont load only in https works out.

my browser.js is dated on 21-aug is that the latest?

maybe gmail AGAIN change things.

also opera file icon didnt change for me what can be wrong?

Daniel Ziltenerzilti Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:01:50 PM

Originally posted by Rijk:

Originally posted by zilti:

Still not working: JavaFX...

What JavaFX?


No JavaFX, like I said. Not one JavaFX Applet is working. Java: works mostly, JavaFX: doesn't work.
That incompatibility to JavaFX and some Java is caused by Opera's own implementation of the Java-PlugIn.

Daniel Ziltenerzilti Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:02:19 PM

By the way, the new Logo is just GREAT! smile

schouwerwou Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:06:46 PM

It would be very nice if the new interface of Google Adwords would work with Opera: http://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/answer.py?answer=116429

Fernandofernando823 Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:19:28 PM

Please, make the uninstaller erase this entries from windows registry
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Opera.*
or the installer to overwrite them.

I had them corrupted by another snapshot and I had to erase them manually and do a repair install in order to see the new icons. I'm using Windows 7

Thanks

TreeGo Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:20:00 PM

Originally posted by andresruiz:

I right click on any text that I'm writing and the context menu has a lot of space left on my screen I have to "mouse over" the "more items" option to see the dictionaries menu, would be better to have the "dictionaries" context menu available without the need of "mouse over" the "more items".
The second problem is that again, again, AGAIN the "Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Link Library" JUST DOESN'T WORK. Please, for God's love, don't set is as default, I've installed Opera in my 2 home PCs and 3 PCs here at work... on all of them I've the same error with the plug-in it just opens Windows Media Player and then shows an error, if I select just "Windows Media Player" it works but it's not the default, normal people wont be able to deal with it.



I agree with both of these issues.
I confirm both of these issues.
It makes me sad to say this.
For my eyes I now need tissues.

TreeGo Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:21:17 PM

Originally posted by zilti:

By the way, the new Logo is just GREAT!



I can't say it's much different in my way of viewing it. Much ado about little in my estimation ... one man's opinion, I know, though.

Rigwald Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:37:06 PM

Opera is Gettin' There! YEAH! jester

Hanging on the last element seems much better here, although not perfect.

(Still would like to see the page build and not just wait for everything to load before displaying. Somewhat annoying to bounce back and forth between tabs to see it building.) - Stand corrected thanks to input from someone. :-)

Vectronic Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:40:39 PM

Originally posted by Rigwald:

Still would like to see the page build and not just wait for everything to load before displaying.


Preferences
-Advanced
--Browsing
---Loading
----"Redraw Instantly"

mightyrff Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:47:01 PM

disabling the mouse gestures, doesn't disable them completely, for example back and forward functions are still being recognized, anyone one else have this prob?

darlana Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:49:40 PM

i'm very happy about the new version
but i don't like the new icon i think it is too thick and the previous one was more subtle

Edgar P. NashNetegrof Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:06:42 PM

Thank you for you comment, that is a litter detail like some issues in the skin, the most important is the behavior and features.

Andresandresruiz Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:20:55 PM

Originally posted by Vectronic:

So what is your suggestion then? How can Opera solve that for "normal" people, without Opera becoming 150MB's with a background service that monitors and periodically informs the user their s**t might be broken?


Thanks for your reply, I use Opera since version 7 and it's not the first time I know about this problem, I've read about it years ago in the forums, and there was an issue with the plug-in, I don't remember well but there was even a link in some forums to download the latest version of the plug-in... but in MY OPINION based in what I've seen recently on those 5 PCs and people with similar problems writing in the forums demonstrates that the plug-in method in Opera is not as reliable as in other browsers, so I suggest not using the plug-in but launching the complete application by default. It it's not an issue in your PC... great for you. But the IDEA is to build a Opera 10 final easy and reliable for everyone, not just for your or me, we can solve this issues by ourselves, why waste our time writing about it ?
@ayespay thanks for reply, yes I had not seem that issue for much time, and it doesn't always happen (the PDF issue).
@TreeGo thanks for CONFIRMATION of the 2 ISSUES, specially for the second one which some people don't want to believe is a real issue.

TreeGo Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:33:07 PM

You're welcome AndresRuiz. I'm curious Andres if you can get Opera 10 working with any of these WMP sites listed at my forum post here: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=3090958

If you can, I'd be delighted to know your workaround. Thank you.

LiteLite2 Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:35:35 PM

Looks like this version have scripting problems.
Take a look: http://acid3.acidtests.org/

The score is 97 of 100. And it says: "Scripting must be enabled to use this test.".

Beta 3 doesn't have this problem.

berend ytsmaytsmabeer Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:36:39 PM

Originally posted by Lite2:

Looks like this version have scripting problems.
Take a look: http://acid3.acidtests.org/


looks fine

LiteLite2 Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:40:42 PM

The score is 97 of 100. And it says: "Scripting must be enabled to use this test.".

Beta 3 doesn't have this problem.

PeterGiraffePC Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:41:04 PM

Originally posted by ytsmabeer:

Originally posted by Lite2:

Looks like this version have scripting problems. Take a look: http://acid3.acidtests.org/

looks fine



Getting 96% here sad

GroovyMicky Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:41:54 PM

1) go to http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/book_extracts/article6805656.ece
2) try to select some text inside article
Whole page becomes unclickable and unscrollable for me.

Two default buttons in Status Bar behaves inconsistently when clicking arrow(!) next to it: 'Show images' button becomes green, but not 'Turbo' button.

Speed Dial: click 'Configure Speed Dial' and hover X button. Notice how it is incompletely shown.

PS: I still can not understand why buttons in Address Bar are the only one that stand out from background. Buttons in all other bars are blended into background and stand out on hover... confused

Overall new skin and new icon: love

[WinXP_sp3]

LiteLite2 Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:43:23 PM

Beta 3 knocks out all 100 points.

Vectronic Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:50:11 PM

Originally posted by andresruiz:

so I suggest not using the plug-in but launching the complete application by default.

But if you do it that way, then you get everyone who expects it to be viewed within the webpage, complaining that it doesn't work like every other browser, and I'm fairly sure that's a much larger group considering it has been the expected result for quite a few years now, that's why it defaults to Plug-In.

Using myself as testing pool, it works on 3 different computers, ranging from XP to Win7, and using either Acrobat, or Adobe Reader (v7.0 or better), and very few people have mentioned it, so I am inclined to believe the problem is a rather small minority.

Changing to from Plug-In to External, is just as difficult as External to Plug-In, and if you consider stuff like "who gets to decide what opens internal or external?" you get even more problems, PDFs only, WMP stuff only? both? what if the user has VLC (or something else) and doesn't have WMP, is it still sent to external? If the user sets everything to Plug-In, and then upgrades, will it default back to External? If the Plug-In version changes, should it switch? just in case the Plug-In might not work?

LiteLite2 Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:50:29 PM

When Unite becomes a stable...
Сan the stable and beta releases be maked with a custom installation of Unite support? With Unite Opera is harder. But not all people need this function.

Andresandresruiz Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:00:31 PM

@Vectronic maybe using the external instead the plug-in is not very cool but is reliable, and yes, there will be people complaining about it. But I prefer reliable than cool. Bye

yozz84 Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:06:19 PM

everything is great but !!

opera have a few years and there is now good minimalistic skin to use...

people who haw 15" or less screen size must use now skins with big buttons (scale to 40% only?), spaces between buttons (for what?)...

there was a great skin: breeze series... could you do something like this for opera 10? !!

thank you very much smile))

elyon Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:10:47 PM

I'm not sure what people are saying about the Acid 3 test. I just tried it again and it passed 100%. The details just revealed that three of the tests were slower than 30 fps on my laptop, but that's all.

RSD Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:40:30 PM

There's a new bug in this RC, probably caused by bugfix DSK-261459 (Go to Unread View when requested, don't reuse a maximized mail view) but I'm not sure, I don't really understand the description.

When you double click a feed or an email, a new tab is opened.
In this build, the Mail header image appears under the mailbar buttons. This is happening because the text bar on top of the mailbar has been removed and the buttons don't respect the Mail header margin.
Opera 10 RC
http://files.myopera.com/RSD/albums/307719/BadMailheader.png -
Previous Opera 10 builds
http://files.myopera.com/RSD/albums/307719/GoodMailheader.png -
I have tried to solve it by adjusting the left padding in the [Mailbar Skin] but it doesn't work.
If it is caused by the solution used for bug DSK-261459, please change it back temporarily until you make those buttons respect the Mail header margin.

illiad Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:42:02 PM

mitchman2:

Please look at this post... smile
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/4278537?startidx=300#comment10022441

Daniel HendrycksDanielHendrycks Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:47:19 PM

Originally posted by Lite2:

The score is 97 of 100.



Turn off fit to width.

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