The Return of Hot Chocolate
By Daniel Aleksandersendaniel. Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:15:00 AM
The Mac team has made a lot of progress with the Cocoa migration, and here is the snapshot release (and a screenshot) to prove it! It should be a much smoother ride now….
Presto has been upgraded to version 2.5.20 with improved stability and site compatibility fixes. Among the fixes are the crash when enabling fit-to-width, crash when opening a PDF, and the Acid3 and DOM performance regression from Saturday’s snapshot build.
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Our bug wizard is very interested in any serious bugs. We want to bring this up to beta quality fast, so please help us out by reporting the problems you encounter!
Update: If you are using Windows 7, you will notice that Opera shows a green progress bar behind the Opera icon in the Windows taskbar when downloading files. You can also Turn off opera:config#UserPrefs|UseWindows7TaskbarThumbnails to disable the Windows 7 taskbar thumbnails. Please note that a bug causes this setting to also disable the download progress bar behind the Opera icon.Known issues
- "Copy Link Address" doesn’t work
- No <video> on Mac
- Mac crash on start-up with IPv6 connectivity
- Disabling Windows 7 taskbar thumbnails also disables download progress in the taskbar
This build still represents early work in progress; as before many things are known not to work. It can still annoy you, crash, and potentially wipe all your precious bookmarks. Backup first!
Download
- Windows MSI / Windows Classic
- Mac (Intel) OS 10.5 or later
- Unix — in the very near future



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Sebastiánslalaurette # Friday, January 22, 2010 3:56:22 PM
Originally posted by Vectronic:
This is no solution for per-site problems. For example, I want to have a particular site always at 90% in my machine at work, but everything else at 100%. So I want it smaller, not larger; thus, a minimum font size would have no effect.
Ward # Friday, January 22, 2010 3:58:44 PM
I'm really looking forward to a build without the copy link crasher. That one bug is a deal breaker.
cousin333 # Friday, January 22, 2010 4:00:35 PM
- inline search doesn't work for me. it doesn't do anything until I check and uncheck the Match case option. Really annoying, besides I have to type fast, or it will close before I can do that.
- this text field redraw issue should be gone as well
- Mail created a lots of contacts
- opening a PDF inside Opera and closing its tab freezes Opera badly (using Adobe Reader plugin)
- inline spell check is not working
- context menu is not working in a note at all
- copy link crash
- inseting Notes into text fields
I have other issues of course, but I can live with them (at least in the alpha)
A suggestion: I see a great progress on UI, and I like that you finally get rid of fast forward and rewind and integrated them into back and forward, because the lots of arrow were distracting (they are nice features anyway, but depite being there and cluttering the UI, I almost never used them). I guess, aReload | Reload all (by pressing long) button will also be a nice addition
Vectronic # Friday, January 22, 2010 4:14:35 PM
Originally posted by slalaurette:
It wasn't intended to be, the person I was replying to was having problems with websites that use small fonts, thus that setting would help, if not alleviate their particular problem, not everyone's problem.Sebastiánslalaurette # Friday, January 22, 2010 4:37:48 PM
Originally posted by Vectronic:
OK.
Arguggi # Friday, January 22, 2010 4:44:52 PM
http://www.tomshardware.com/us/
and with every other text box i've seen so far, has anyone reported a bug or is this bug already known by the devs?
masterofopera # Friday, January 22, 2010 5:06:20 PM
does not happen with Opera 10.10 or 10.20 alpha
example:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Internet-explorer-usage-data.svg
reported as bug DSK-276970
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and the popups missing the maximize button
But generally great work desktop-team!
Find in page
add search engine from directly too
jump-list
private (tab) browsing (I wished so long)
SPEED!!!
(at the moment some) Visual improvement for usability
Platform integration
I hope following features are coming too:
*Advanced Plugin Manager (global & site preferences)
(same as or even better than than FF 3.5)
*Complete FF-NoScript Functionality (incl. blocking some Javascript-attacs)
*Plug-in-, Widget-, Unite-app- and search-engine
Auto-Update-check (better than Firefox 3.6)
*Google maps search-engine default included.
(The user do not want to search for a solution)
*Advanced AD-Blocker: Blocking of specific AD flash
and AD text like the pictures and auto-download for AD block-lists
(same as or even better than than AdBlock+ @ FF 3.5)
ayespy # Friday, January 22, 2010 5:13:10 PM
Originally posted by illiad:
Not necessarily.
It's horrible if one doesn't even have an account. Their method for fetching from off-site to display in the page and for deploying counters, etc., is giving Opera indigestion.
A person who is signed-in may simply be getting MORE off-site communication attempts than one who is not (display of messages "you haven't joined our (other domain) social networking," etc.) - the cookie function may be trivial or irrelevant to the actual problem.
One should remember this is an aggregating site - so much of its content is updated elsewhere and retrieved from off-site to show in an automatically-refreshing front end.
Regardless, ALL other browsers (including 9.6, now - tho it had similar problems early in its development) handle the site without incident - so it is possible to do so.
mjpa # Friday, January 22, 2010 5:13:27 PM
Originally posted by EricJH:
It probably can thinking about it. Scroll to the anchor as soon as it is rendered and then modify the scroll position whenever the page is repainted in the UI. Of course, if the user manually scrolls it should stop updates to the scroll position.
asfaltas # Friday, January 22, 2010 5:17:16 PM
EricJH # Friday, January 22, 2010 5:39:38 PM
Originally posted by mjpa:
I keep hoping that one day they change the jump to anchor behaviour.....masterofopera # Friday, January 22, 2010 5:47:55 PM
Originally posted by asfaltas:
Confirmed, same with Opera 10.10
Does not happen with Firefox 3.6 or Safari 4.
ouzowtfouzoWTF # Friday, January 22, 2010 6:57:35 PM
Martin KadlecBS-Harou # Friday, January 22, 2010 7:15:05 PM
Luchio # Friday, January 22, 2010 7:15:40 PM
Originally posted by mjpa:
+1 !!!
Lonesome Bullet # Friday, January 22, 2010 7:32:50 PM
mlewellyn # Friday, January 22, 2010 7:37:47 PM
z-o-o-m # Friday, January 22, 2010 7:40:13 PM
some mice 2 wheels or 4way wheel ... but Opera still does not accept it
(even if I set Button6/7 to scroll right/left)
Øzikzakatak # Friday, January 22, 2010 8:13:33 PM
Originally posted by lucideer:
IMHO right thing to do...
Danieledarklink88 # Friday, January 22, 2010 8:30:16 PM
http://files.myopera.com/darklink88/files/Schermata%202010-01-22%20a%2021.23.31.png
Another thing...when I try to upload a file to my myopera account, opera 10.5 doesn't recognize the jpg or png files..i mean when the window in wich you have to choose the stuff you want to upload opens, image files are not selectable
NEOAethyr # Friday, January 22, 2010 8:41:56 PM
Originally posted by illiad:
I think that is an excellent idea for page zooms (not mentioning text zooms but I don't need that I think).
I'm gonna work on that for my setup later on today.
Thanks for giving me the idea to do so, probably look nicer and reduce clutter.
I'm thinking a toggle button, on = 200%, off = 100%.
Originally posted by BS-Harou:
I haven't read up on css in a while now.
But I do know ie6 has a gradient thingy as well.
I would like to see both implemented.
I'll try this build in win7 later on tonight probably.
I found I can use a usb stick or a seperate hd to install on my array, instead of a dvd.
Hopefully the new gui is still looking nice from what it was originally...
poorrichard01 # Friday, January 22, 2010 8:50:34 PM
Originally posted by ferrisnox:
Am I incorrect that anyone can replace the default combined buttons with the old ones, including the key?
syplex # Friday, January 22, 2010 10:03:03 PM
Nancy López a.k.a. CyBeRGaTacybergata # Saturday, January 23, 2010 3:19:23 AM
Andrew Samandrewsam # Saturday, January 23, 2010 5:07:34 AM
FavDjiXas # Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:58:51 AM
It's extremely slugish and hate those close/open tab login forms slide animations, which do not disappeared, even if I disable special effects.
z-o-o-m # Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:22:00 AM
Originally posted by cvm:
I see, I didn't notice the change
Kai OckendorfOckendorf # Saturday, January 23, 2010 10:21:16 AM
Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:
Please tell us
FavDjiXas # Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:28:34 AM
Also, lets say small pop up appears on the main page, sometimes its not possible to click on that main page (pop up stays on top). Not sure how to explain this
lucideer # Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:26:41 PM
Originally posted by DjiXas:
This is not really a "bug" per se - more of a deficiency, and a known one. There's an entire (very long) thread discussing this if you'd like to join in: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=344471
illiad # Saturday, January 23, 2010 1:12:02 PM
Originally posted by ayespy:
illiad # Saturday, January 23, 2010 1:15:07 PM
Raistlin # Saturday, January 23, 2010 1:43:41 PM
in Opera 10.1: if I enter ie. "opera,com", Opera changes it to "opera.com". Opera 10.5 doesn't do it anymore.
Danieledarklink88 # Saturday, January 23, 2010 2:28:13 PM
http://files.myopera.com/darklink88/files/Senza%20titolo.pdf
Daniel HendrycksDanielHendrycks # Saturday, January 23, 2010 2:31:02 PM
Here it is:
If you don't remember, it makes the the menu button an on-and-off switch rather than an on-and-on switch. This bugs importance is increased because the menu button is in the default set-up.
KerenSkyy # Saturday, January 23, 2010 2:34:41 PM
Daniel HendrycksDanielHendrycks # Saturday, January 23, 2010 2:39:27 PM
Originally posted by Daniele Pellegrini:
+1 for mac tab changes, maybe a wish-list thread or a beta forum thread.
lipuringas # Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:13:09 PM
Wernererror-at # Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:18:23 PM
awesome!
MyOpera team, please fix this!fearphage # Sunday, January 24, 2010 2:11:13 PM
Originally posted by EricJH:
I filed this bug in 2008 (Bug #362738). Another effect of this regression was that stopping a page from loading never jumps to the #anchor.leolchat # Sunday, January 24, 2010 4:41:25 PM
Originally posted by mgillespie:
Thanks a lot. Saved me.Net Surfer 2.0netsurfer20 # Monday, January 25, 2010 7:43:29 AM
Ruarí Ødegaardruario # Monday, January 25, 2010 8:24:21 AM
Originally posted by netsurfer20:
You forgot to add 'yet'.
Martin KadlecBS-Harou # Monday, January 25, 2010 11:44:59 AM
Originally posted by ruario:
Matt Coxcoxy # Monday, February 1, 2010 10:22:10 AM
tapazukk # Saturday, February 13, 2010 3:10:46 PM
Originally posted by dom0410:
+1 This is very annoying (blocker bug)