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Getting prettier

By Ruarí Ødegaardruario. Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:21:53 PM

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Following on from the 10.51 snapshot for Windows. Here is a nice little suprise for our UNIX users. It includes all the Core and Carakan fixes of the 10.51 Windows snapshot, plus a little something just for UNIX: our latest improvements to GTK integration.

Whilst UNIX remains in alpha status for now, we are trying our very hardest to get you something more stable ASAP. So keep an eye out for more big improvements soon.

Highlights
  • It looks nicer! wink

Known Issues
  • Carakan crashes on some sites (such as yahoo.com).
  • Font problems
  • Language input issues
  • No .deb or .rpm packages
  • No KDE integration (yet)
  • Problem with address field drop down position under non compositing Window Managers
  • Black drop down menus for some KDE3 users
  • Black border around Ctrl+Tab dialog when running under a compositing Window Manager
  • Some command line options don't work


WARNING: This is a development snapshot: it contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

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Changelog
Unix
  • Buttons in dialogs have the correct order for a GTK application
  • Improved GTK integration when using a dark themes
  • The default GTK fonts are now used for menus and dialogs
  • The default GTK colors are now used
  • Treeview GTK skin support
  • Panels use GTK native colors
  • Zoom button enabled on UNIX
  • Fixed an issue with the old menu appearing on top of the 'O' Menu

10.51 snapshot for WindowsNew Mac Snapshot

Comments

IKoke Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:58:11 PM

up

Zotlan Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:59:09 PM

Nice!

*resumes waiting for KDE integration*

Ruarí Ødegaardruario Friday, March 12, 2010 12:01:14 AM

Originally posted by Zotlan:

*resumes waiting for KDE integration*

I know it can feel like a long wait but it will come. wink

kill100 Friday, March 12, 2010 12:03:20 AM

yes up

Barraco Mármol Jerónimojerobarraco Friday, March 12, 2010 12:11:11 AM

penguin <-- he feels lonely and sad....

Zotlan Friday, March 12, 2010 12:11:33 AM

BtW, the tar.gz file seems not to be working here. (linux x86_32)

Ruarí Ødegaardruario Friday, March 12, 2010 12:13:37 AM

Originally posted by Zotlan:

the tar.gz file seems not to be working here.


Could you clarify? it doesn't untar?? the build doesn't run??

Oopsthunpin Friday, March 12, 2010 12:15:33 AM

unix... unix... unix \o/

Zotlan Friday, March 12, 2010 12:19:25 AM

Originally posted by thunpin:

Could you clarify? it doesn't untar?? the build doesn't run??


hm, weird, when i tried running it before (./opera in command line) it refused to run, now it works fine. I guess my first downloads got corrupted.

Glad to see the bug with the menu bar re-appearing when settings were saved has been resolved BtW.

Sergio Rafael Lemkebedi1982 Friday, March 12, 2010 12:22:35 AM

Hell yea! smile)
The must annoying in the release im actually using are the fonts and unaligned flash(easy to note in mafiawars properties section)
Kudos!

David Tereidterei Friday, March 12, 2010 12:22:49 AM

hooray! Will try when I get home.

Sergio Rafael Lemkebedi1982 Friday, March 12, 2010 12:26:46 AM

To keep your data, backup the "profile" directory, untar the new snapshot and copy the 'profile' directory into-it.
just a tip for our opera Linux users ;D

Kyle Bakerkyleabaker Friday, March 12, 2010 12:31:13 AM

Woohoo!

Danieledarklink88 Friday, March 12, 2010 12:32:20 AM

YOU ARE THE BEST!
now I'm waiting for the mac snapshot...maybe tomorrow?

techlawsam Friday, March 12, 2010 12:35:04 AM

*drooling* I am already spoiled more builds for windows as well plz

and hopefully mac final comes out so i can install on my schools macs bigsmile

pios Friday, March 12, 2010 12:39:28 AM

address bar text is kind of hard to read..

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5144/screenshotina.png

Strago Friday, March 12, 2010 12:41:17 AM

nice!!!

Joshua PhelpsJoshuaPhelps Friday, March 12, 2010 12:43:48 AM

So far, it's looking pretty good! Only one crash, though. I reported it. XD

TA5K Friday, March 12, 2010 12:46:03 AM

... this snapshot spam is really crazy bigsmile party smurf drunk

L2D2 Friday, March 12, 2010 12:51:29 AM

When will you get a Linux version that will have all Java and flash libraries and plugins necessary for Opera browser to play videos and music players on OC and Facebook games? Out of the box, like Firefox and Chrome. I'm really upset that I can't use my Linux Opera fully.

oceanic Friday, March 12, 2010 1:11:53 AM

sweet, tank you!!

Joshua PhelpsJoshuaPhelps Friday, March 12, 2010 1:20:20 AM

Originally posted by L2D2:

When will you get a Linux version that will have all Java and flash libraries and plugins necessary for Opera browser to play videos and music players on OC and Facebook games? Out of the box, like Firefox and Chrome. I'm really upset that I can't use my Linux Opera fully.



Actually, they don't come with those pre-installed. Usually, you have to install them yourself. In other cases, they are included I guess.
It's not a big deal for me. Everything works great. bigsmile

www.nenelinux.tk ®nenericardo Friday, March 12, 2010 1:22:26 AM

great !! thanks opera team bigsmile

rasive Friday, March 12, 2010 1:30:19 AM

Wow, looks pretty neat compared to last time i checked the unix version

Things i have found so far:
= Major bugs =
- No, or limited, sub-pixel rendering (looks a bit ugly compared to other gtk apps
- A bit laggy when you resize the window (it doesn't redraw instantly, maybe it is a feature?)
- Scrollbar is rendered wrong on some themes (to reproduce this, try running opera with the new wave skin on ubuntu karmic)
- Menu arrows are rendered wrong on some themes (same as above)

= Minor bugs =
- Fullscreen mode is not working as intended
- Submenue draw time is too low compared to other gtk apps (theyt appear too fast)

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Also, do you have any plans for placing the opera menu button (and maybe the tabs) on the window title bar? You could do it permanently, or just when the window is maximized?

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Anyway, i am really looking forward to this! You guys do a great job. Greetings from Denmark

Megafmegaf Friday, March 12, 2010 1:32:17 AM

Great! Thanks a million!

If you want a good looking fonts, just change it.
I have changed everything to Bitstream font family, it looks cool!

Sigil ThaneCrinos512 Friday, March 12, 2010 1:33:05 AM

WOOT!

Abhinavdecodedthought Friday, March 12, 2010 1:37:15 AM

up

d4rkn1ght Friday, March 12, 2010 1:49:40 AM

up

techlawsam Friday, March 12, 2010 1:55:48 AM

yes

hth90nor Friday, March 12, 2010 2:16:14 AM

After use of mouse panning the keyboard don't work, to get it to work again I have to right click and then left click with the mouse.

www.nenelinux.tk ®nenericardo Friday, March 12, 2010 2:21:04 AM

WOW the change is amazing really yes yikes

looks like opera 10.51 in windows

good job guys !!!

Bill PBill_P Friday, March 12, 2010 2:24:55 AM

BIG improvement in start time verses previous release and the huge delay in displaying bookmarks much improved

sebt Friday, March 12, 2010 2:45:47 AM

Thanks for remembering us Unix users smile

Any word on the proxy issues with the 10.5x line? Still seeing a lot of posts about it and couldn't use final at my work's network behind the (necessary) proxy without it being dreadfully slow.

Can't wait for nice fonts and KDE integration!!

Confirm brief black flashing before menus are drawn. Also (in all linux builds so far) graphical garbage appearing momentarily when menus/popup windows appear (like prefs) and most visibly when resizing the Opera window bigger, or hitting maximise.

Would love to hear that printing/print preview is going to get some love (it's pretty broken). It's a showstopper for my family.

Seb smile

Poromenos Friday, March 12, 2010 2:48:38 AM

How about some .debs :/ Seriously guys, #1 priority. I can't have this as my main browser now, and I **really** want to!

Think about how many bug reports you'd get if only you had .debs/.rpms.

sebt Friday, March 12, 2010 2:50:32 AM

Originally posted by megaf:

If you want a good looking fonts, just change it...


The real problem is the fonts used in webpages, whose rendering is nasty compared with 10.10. This is most likely as it's not using KDE/Gnome fonts but just X11 for now.

Seb smile

sebt Friday, March 12, 2010 2:53:25 AM

Originally posted by Poromenos:

How about some .debs :/ Seriously guys, #1 priority. I can't have this as my main browser now, and I **really** want to!

Think about how many bug reports you'd get if only you had .debs/.rpms.


I think this move is fairly logical until release builds are available. The last thing Opera wants is people installing 10.5x into their system only to get a shedload of complaints about how Opera is broken and they don't know how to backtrack to 10.10. Remember, it's still alpha grade snapshots.

If you know what you're doing you can install it "properly" from the tarfiles, or more sensibly just keep opera running in its own folder for now; you can always move the "profile" subdir to $home/.opera later when the final's released.

Seb smile

Rianav AntaresKerenSkyy Friday, March 12, 2010 2:54:38 AM

Yes! New UNIX build!

Originally posted by sebt:

Can't wait for nice fonts and KDE integration!!


Agreed.

Thanks for a new build.beer

Mustache61 Friday, March 12, 2010 3:00:33 AM

Looking good up

Rianav AntaresKerenSkyy Friday, March 12, 2010 3:15:23 AM

Originally posted by sebt:

Confirm brief black flashing before menus are drawn. Also (in all linux builds so far) graphical garbage appearing momentarily when menus/popup windows appear (like prefs) and most visibly when resizing the Opera window bigger, or hitting maximise.



Think I've seen that.

netxus Friday, March 12, 2010 4:10:15 AM

*Language input issues*
FFFFFUUUUUU~

marcorion Friday, March 12, 2010 4:10:33 AM

Any word on when Xbindkeys will work with Opera again? My only usability problem with 10.50 is that Xbindkeys is b0rked.

celiochido Friday, March 12, 2010 4:20:05 AM

great job , but

f11 does not work properly only hides the bars, but not shown in full screen, openbox

atoyu Friday, March 12, 2010 4:50:40 AM

big problem on display chinese fonts.!!!!!!pls fix

Nathan OyamaCulip Friday, March 12, 2010 5:10:42 AM

Originally posted by atoyu:

big problem on display chinese fonts.!!!!!!pls fix

I'm curious. Tell us a little more about it.

Daniel Davistagawa Friday, March 12, 2010 5:14:35 AM

Definitely prettier.
Thanks for the Linux love.

Blaz(ž) Pristavitalianjob44 Friday, March 12, 2010 5:27:54 AM

Good job...and even on Tekzilla Opera Unite was mentioned just by the end of the show.up
http://revision3.com/tekzilla/arcade/opera-unite-the-diy-pogoplug-

i also found this...
Shrani.si
That's your widget site comparing Chrome to Opera produce bad graphics.

The rest is on my blog...

acaden Friday, March 12, 2010 5:34:10 AM

Well PPC Linux crashed within 2 minutes of starting it up. Guess that's why it's not beta yet.

Tobias C. Bernertcberner Friday, March 12, 2010 5:44:58 AM

Nice, but..
Position of the dialog to edit a speed-dial url is still off on my two-monitor setup. On the first monitor the dialog to the right most dial-buttons aren't fully visible. On the second monitor they don't even appear.


sebt Friday, March 12, 2010 6:03:58 AM

This build is still eating a shedload of memory under Linux over time. With JS/plugins disabled, memory use remains healthy (real:180M/virtual:280M), but with JS/plugins enabled, its climbing and climbing. After an hour or so of joomla editing of a website, opera is using 1G/1.3G, with my linux laptop having only 1.5G of RAM installed.

My feeling is that the leaks lie within JS/Carakan, since Joomla editing has a lot of JS (TinyMCE for instance), but no other plugins.

Seb smile

negram Friday, March 12, 2010 7:17:25 AM

>Font problems
>Language input issues

cry

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