Mac Beta 2... well almost
By Adam Minchintonminch. Friday, April 9, 2010 2:13:08 PM
Enjoy the weekend and the build
Known Issues
- Some stability problems on PPC
WARNING: This is a development snapshot: it contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.
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Changelog
Desktop
- Revamped screen reader code
Core
- Fixed CARAKAN-1224 (Westpac Australian Bank carshes)
- Fixed CORE-27688 (Dragonfly doesn't select active tab when opened)
Mac
- Reintroduced VoiceOver support
- Fixed DSK-270588 (Scrolls too fast and jumpy with momentum)
- Fixed DSK-276581 (Long Accept-Language headers causes site compatibility issues (also for Unite!))
- Fixed DSK-285106 (1 minute freeze on initial startup)
- Fixed DSK-288368 (.focus removes existing textarea selections)
- Fixed DSK-288381 (Context menu stops working after bringing it up on a plugin object)
- Fixed DSK-288762 (Cmd changed to Ctrl without making changes)
- Fixed DSK-290280 (Add shortcut for changing tab from HIG)
- Fixed DSK-290489 (Text not being rendered when whole string is not fully visible after scrolling)
- Fixed DSK-290499 (Right-click-scrolling doesn't bring up tab cycler)
- Fixed DSK-291273 (Opera crashes when loading video (Flip4Mac))
- Fixed DSK-291291 (Crash when changing to Opera Standard skin)
- Fixed DSK-291744 (Should be possible to escape crash-on-startup loops)
- Fixed DSK-292890 (Enable smooth scrolling by default on Mac)
Mac Widgets
- Fixed DSK-271514 (Widget secondary-click menu don't display correct keyboard shortcuts)
- Fixed DSK-272038 (Widget notifications)
- Fixed DSK-282896 (Widget is presented on panel if removed manually)
- Fixed DSK-282903 (Widget does not contain (2) on panel)
- Fixed DSK-285581 (Widget do not sticks to desktop in always on top mode)
- Fixed DSK-285593 (Upgrade widgets texts are truncated in PL version)
- Fixed DSK-285601 (Impossible to install multiple instances of one widget)
- Fixed DSK-285623 (Unite music player & Ebook reader widgets always captures focus)
- Fixed DSK-286035 (Impossible to install widget with default settings as a standard user)
- Fixed DSK-287451 (Wrong widget name suggested if widget is installed after previous upgrade)
- Fixed DSK-288256 (Possible to minimize application even it it is Always on top or Always below)
- Fixed DSK-288955 (Default widget name is displayed on panel even if custom name was set)
- Fixed DSK-288959 (Why do I need to upgrade explanation is clipped)
- Fixed DSK-290047 (Notifications don't display text on Mac)
- Fixed DSK-290731 (widget with long name failed to install)



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arnaud lautierGrouick # Friday, April 9, 2010 2:57:21 PM
Volshebnyi # Friday, April 9, 2010 3:05:00 PM
inkoherence # Friday, April 9, 2010 3:13:55 PM
Originally posted by Grouick:
+1! Me too!
IusedtobeOOlli91 # Friday, April 9, 2010 3:25:43 PM
scrolling is nearly very smooth now!
Tri M. NguyenTriMN # Friday, April 9, 2010 3:33:40 PM
This is the first time I activate smooth-scrolling (after having to try it very long time ago) it seems jumpy.
I'm on the latest and biggest Macbook Pro with Mac OS X 10.6.3
More edits: and using the Magic Mouse with momentum scrolling (hurray for the cmd and option key switch in the other build)
TimFetimo # Friday, April 9, 2010 3:39:36 PM
Although this and the last build has an issue with Spaces, when you move it to a separate Space it just 'follows' wherever you are and doesn't stick to the right Space. I can provide a video of the behaviour if you wish?
Thanks for the build.
8324 / 10.6.3
mops # Friday, April 9, 2010 3:41:09 PM
Found one big mistake:
web.de uses for its web mailer an iframe (to display the messages). This iframe is shrunken to maybe 100x100 pixel. This bug is only relevant in this version.
tunnelblick # Friday, April 9, 2010 4:22:46 PM
Tri M. NguyenTriMN # Friday, April 9, 2010 4:25:33 PM
Jeff ™intelimac20inch # Friday, April 9, 2010 4:36:56 PM
techlawsam # Friday, April 9, 2010 4:53:27 PM
Harlekin Mondharlekinmond # Friday, April 9, 2010 4:56:57 PM
Tarmas # Friday, April 9, 2010 5:04:08 PM
The drop down dialog for selecting a username comes down, you select one, and the screenshot below shows the thing that's left.
It's been present in the previous builds, I just forgot to report it.
Minimizing Opera to the Dock and maximizing it back makes it disappear.
Anyway, thanks for this build. A lot of bugs that I have reported are gone by now. Opera Mac is looking a lot better than I expected, so please keep up the great work!
Kiuzekiuze # Friday, April 9, 2010 5:14:57 PM
adidasprince # Friday, April 9, 2010 5:17:40 PM
I tried all snapshots here without lucky.
Intel Mac, Snow Leopard 10.6.3.
Tri M. NguyenTriMN # Friday, April 9, 2010 5:41:30 PM
or, they're using h.264 hum? ... humm...
IusedtobeOOlli91 # Friday, April 9, 2010 6:04:36 PM
Originally posted by TriMN:
of course, EVERY video on youtube does! Just cause the original is in an open source codec it doesn't stay if you upload it on tube. Of course it is converted to h.264...
blangbl4nG # Friday, April 9, 2010 6:13:09 PM
Originally posted by Fetimo:
Ugh and i was just hoping that this build fixes it. Not gonna try it then, sticking to the older one
d4rkn1ght # Friday, April 9, 2010 6:22:02 PM
petos515 # Friday, April 9, 2010 6:24:45 PM
I filed a bug report for the last build (DSK-293368) and I’ll file it again for this build.
It makes Opera unusable.
Martin EberhardtDarkFoxDK # Friday, April 9, 2010 6:28:21 PM
Martinpolov # Friday, April 9, 2010 6:43:33 PM
Kamaleshkamalesh # Friday, April 9, 2010 6:49:19 PM
Still seeing a glitch that doesn't allow removing search field from address bar when set to "show progress inside addr bar."
Also, when address bar is showing progress (page is loading), the old button set is visible, not the new integrated Rewind/Back buttons; but strangely, the OLD buttons show favicons in the Rewind/Back list, while the new integrated Rewind/Back show text of sites, but no favicons.
(OSX v10.5.8-intel)
Kamaleshkamalesh # Friday, April 9, 2010 6:53:34 PM
Originally posted by ansujay:
This Opera v10.5x branch is a full-Cocoa rewrite, so many native items have been & will continue, to be added. Having said that, your comment was sufficiently vague...by not mentioning even 1-2 native Cocoa items you think that should be prioritized.
Петър Славовpetersl # Friday, April 9, 2010 7:43:18 PM
Adrianapa240 # Friday, April 9, 2010 7:49:09 PM
Oh I can't wait until that is no longer there.
Sujayansujay # Friday, April 9, 2010 7:51:23 PM
Originally posted by kamalesh:
My bad. Let me think of some. (most complaints may be Mac specific)
* When you hover over some text, the mouse tool does not change to text select tool but stays as pointer. I know you can select text with the normal mouse pointer in Opera, but it just doesn't seem right to me. Especially since every other app doesn't do it this way.
* I feel Opera toolbars are oversized. I'm aware that I can change the Icon size in Tools > Appearance. But it doesn't change the height of the toolbar. With the current way it is implemented, I see no point in changing the Icon size setting.
* Where is the History menu? I know I can access History from sidebar/Trash, but I have found the History menu to be of soooo much use in Safari, Chrome, etc than using the sidebar. (Speaking on sidebar, what's with its hideous color in Native skin?)
* When I'm using Safari, I don't have to visit another page to check a word's meaning. I simply key in Cmnd + Ctrl + D while hovering above the word. I believe this is a Cocoa feature, and I'd greatly appreciate it if it's implemented in Opera as well. (no browser other than Safari seems to have this, Evernote has this)
* Why does the Find in page bar disappear after a few seconds. If I have typed in a long string, but want to just edit some part of it after some time, I'll have to type in the entire thing again. Again, why is the Find bar so clunky?
* Resizable text areas.
* Integration of search suggestions in the Search field. (With Safari, I can at least install Glims to achieve this)
And, in general, the looks don't seem to blend so well on Mac.
(Make no mistake, I'm a huge Opera fan. I just want to see it pretty and polished, that's all)
PS: For an excellent example of a non-Apple and well-done Cocoa app, look at Transmission.
cellist # Friday, April 9, 2010 8:02:18 PM
Fraterius # Friday, April 9, 2010 8:05:09 PM
Matt LaingSquirrellyMcGee # Friday, April 9, 2010 9:47:27 PM
Danieledarklink88 # Friday, April 9, 2010 9:56:52 PM
theradex # Friday, April 9, 2010 9:58:37 PM
PS. Better mac integration would be also appreciated
Danieledarklink88 # Friday, April 9, 2010 10:18:00 PM
Originally posted by TriMN:
me too
mac osx 10.6.3
mmpietro # Friday, April 9, 2010 10:27:43 PM
But, what's wrong with the headline Flash banner in the the Star Wars home page?
http://www.starwars.com/
I'm using Mac OS X 10.6.3
Espenher # Friday, April 9, 2010 10:38:04 PM
Maybe for Opera as a whole, and not just the UI, since that has become pretty good in 10.50 already. The voting and community is great there, and quite a few of them seems to like and use Opera, so you could probably get some nice feedback and based on the sorting system some sence over what most people want fixed.
lince # Friday, April 9, 2010 10:46:38 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/
starenka # Friday, April 9, 2010 11:01:28 PM
Danieledarklink88 # Friday, April 9, 2010 11:19:10 PM
But Unfortunately Opera doesn't follow spaces's rules...
Daneelsun242 # Saturday, April 10, 2010 1:06:14 AM
senbey # Saturday, April 10, 2010 1:19:33 AM
Thank you!!
but still need more CPU usage than 10.10 when Flash, scrolling, Google Reader...etc.
8324 / 10.6.3
adioni # Saturday, April 10, 2010 1:33:28 AM
If I move the variable-width search bar (the one with the favicon drop down on the left and the magnifying glass on the right) to the main bar, then Opera no longer starts thereafter or takes an extremely long time.
Also it shows up under the "Customize-->Appearance-->Buttons-->Search "section as a selectable item only at random times; most of the time it isn't even there.
adioni # Saturday, April 10, 2010 2:05:30 AM
Likewise with the "New Tab" button I like to place to the left of all the tabs, its height is now much taller then all the other tabs and its background color is much lighter.
Both of these listed elements stick out like a sore thumb, while they certainly didn't back in Opera 10.10
adioni # Saturday, April 10, 2010 2:27:18 AM
drufix # Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:53:08 AM
Danieledarklink88 # Saturday, April 10, 2010 8:06:42 AM
did you realize that this is a snapshot or not?
SteveKong # Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:29:07 AM
Originally posted by SquirrellyMcGee:
Have done a clean install? If not, remove "Opera 10.50"-folders from "Library/Preferences" and "Library/Application Support" in your user folder.
DaleCooper666 # Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:06:02 AM
mmpietro # Saturday, April 10, 2010 2:22:37 PM
Every time I'm going to test a new snapshot, I do remove the current version installed in my mac using AppCleaner; a free software that removes apps and all its vestiges. After that, I install the latest snapshot.
It is the best method for a clean install?
Kamaleshkamalesh # Saturday, April 10, 2010 4:20:56 PM
Couple tweaks I may suggest, but not regressions. Have these been reported already? I can submit as bugs.
o Nickname Mode doesn't show any menu of auto-fill nicknames (shift+F2)
o Fast-fwd (shift+x) stops working after 2nd page of "latest blog posts" list at Wired.
o The slide-down dialog animations are nice, but many are too instantaneous. The point is to allow the user to see & feel organic movement, otherwise just popping them up in 1 ms like in Windows would be sufficient.
o Also noticed the "Add Bookmark" still pops-up, instead of sliding-down.
Keep it up.
(OSX v10.5.8-intel)
SteveKong # Saturday, April 10, 2010 4:23:30 PM
Originally posted by mmpietro:
AppCleaner is not recommendable in general, use these 3 steps for Opera: