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HTML5, and then some

By Haavardhaavard. Monday, June 14, 2010 11:00:00 AM

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The web is moving quickly these days, and Opera would like to stay at the forefront of open web standards. Opera has been promoting HTML5 since the beginning (and HTML5 actually has its roots at Opera), and in this build we have added four features related to HTML5 and other open standards, and an update for a previous implementation:


We have also added sets of specific fonts to be used for CJK web sites, which should improve readability. We would appreciate your feedback on this.

In addition to these new/improved features there are quite a few bug fixes for Linux/FreeBSD. Mac users will notice that plug-ins will generally perform better too. Take a look at the changelog for more information.

Note that there are no Linux PPC builds for this snapshot.

WARNING: This is a development snapshot of Opera. It is released for testing purposes, and there may be serious bugs and unfinished features.

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Changelog

Desktop and Core
  • Bing is the new Speed Dial search engine
  • WebM, Geolocation, Web Workers, Offline Web Applications, Cross-Document Messaging
  • Added sets of default fonts per language
  • DSK-301799 (Crash on exit after visiting page with Flash)
  • CORE-30617 (Crashes when closing tabs)

Linux/FreeBSD
  • DSK-267262 (Support Clipboard Managers)
  • DSK-300970 (First typed letter disappears when adding a web page to Speed Dial)
  • DSK-298548 (Access keys (Shift+Esc) do not work)
  • DSK-295563 (Opera should not fail to start if only Core fonts are installed)
  • DSK-301410 (Tooltip not cancelled when mouse moves away from Opera)
  • DSK-301128 (Problems with colors in certain themes)
  • DSK-301633 (Tooltip text color is hardcoded)
  • DSK-301651 (Goto Page (F2) dialog can not show a dropdown if compositing is not available)
  • DSK-300106 (Crash when launching widget or Dragonfly with 16-bit color depth)
  • DSK-292110 ("Installed-Size" of a Debian package should be measured in KB)
  • DSK-292282 (Can't install on Centos because of missing symbol FT_Library_SetLcdFilter)
  • DSK-299246 (Problems copying text containing Unicode characters)
  • DSK-300824 (X11 based color picker dialog missing)
  • DSK-288814 (Opera does not respond to GTK theme changes while running)
  • DSK-293797 (Polyester style has wrong unchecked state image)
  • DSK-297194 (Ctrl+Tab window can not be opened if previously canceled)
  • DSK-301305 (Zoom Slider missing in X11 version)
  • DSK-301340 (Printer dialog should not fail silently if CUPS can not be loaded)
  • DSK-300739 (Add support for X11 based printer dialog)
  • DSK-284289 (Implement color selector)

Saturday SnapshotHTML5-enhanced 10.60 Beta is coming!

Comments

cyberdude mminicyberdude Monday, June 14, 2010 11:13:48 AM

here comes new snapshot....bigsmile wizard party
wait with webm support yahooooooo!!!....

BS-Harou Monday, June 14, 2010 11:16:11 AM

party awesome! ... btw its already Beta??

OperaDrBruce Monday, June 14, 2010 11:16:52 AM

Yes! And WebM, omg! cheers

JosemiJosemi16 Monday, June 14, 2010 11:17:50 AM

The use of Bing is due to an agree with Microsoft?

Gertjan Lettinkknurpht Monday, June 14, 2010 11:29:27 AM

Pull down search, Manage Search Enginges, click Bing, click Delete. Done.

thanks opera people.

bachokocho Monday, June 14, 2010 11:29:51 AM

WOW, I knew there will be something, but these are quite a few features implemented smile
Your work is appreciated!

JosemiJosemi16 Monday, June 14, 2010 11:32:06 AM

Great Build!yes

I Only hope that these features continue existing in next snapshot, not as Geolocation dissapear some months ago.

Pleple Monday, June 14, 2010 11:33:24 AM

thanks a lot, went to the test)

Idan AdarYtseJam Monday, June 14, 2010 11:33:30 AM

Geolocation demo fails for me (red-color "failed" text) despite getting the User Agreement and toolbar.

WebM demo seemingly fails as well.
This is what I get: http://i47.tinypic.com/2rfr3h2.png

Kai OckendorfOckendorf Monday, June 14, 2010 11:34:59 AM

Originally posted by YtseJam:

Geolocation demo fails for me (red-color "failed" text)


for me too!

W7x64

BS-Harou Monday, June 14, 2010 11:35:22 AM

Originally posted by YtseJam:

Geolocation demo fails for me (red-color "failed" text) despite getting the User Agreement and toolbar.



same for me, I had to enable geolocation in opera:config (checkbox in geolocation and set number from "-1" to "2" in User Prefs)

RolfRocknRolf Monday, June 14, 2010 11:35:51 AM

Mod edit:

1. No swearing or other offensive behavior
2. Describe problems properly

Arguggi Monday, June 14, 2010 11:37:11 AM

Thanks! bigsmile

Idan AdarYtseJam Monday, June 14, 2010 11:39:19 AM

However, everything seems to be OK on the laptop...

BS-Harou Monday, June 14, 2010 11:39:27 AM

In "Web workers" demo - Canvas is NOT running whilst an prime number finder runs in a worker

Taxidriver05 Monday, June 14, 2010 11:41:06 AM

Hmmm... When will there be a fix of the Silverlight-bug???

(OS: Windows 7 Professional (x64))

Jimmy Tsatsosjimmy_tsatsos Monday, June 14, 2010 11:42:36 AM

Originally posted by YtseJam:

Geolocation demo fails for me (red-color "failed" text) despite getting the User Agreement and toolbar.

WebM demo seemingly fails as well.


For me Geolocation and WebM are working fine with default settings.
Win7x64 location Greece

fresco Monday, June 14, 2010 11:43:38 AM

Since the Saturday build my middle mouse button doesn't do anything in Opera (it is set to open the link in a background tab).
Using Win7x64, Setpoint 6.1 and and Logitech MX1000. It worked perfectly until build 3413.
/edit: I just figured out that it works when I set my middle mouse button to "Open" within Opera. However it does NOT WORK when I set it to "Open in new tab" or "Open in background tab". Please fix this!

The new features:
- WebM seems to work great although the video pauses when I right-click the page (audio doesn't pause).
- GeoLocation, Offline Apps and COM also work great
- the Web Worker didn't seem to work for me somehow ...

Oh, and before going final: Please fix these skin issues under Win7x64:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=431521

ChrisSlamdex Monday, June 14, 2010 11:45:21 AM

Originally posted by BS-Harou:

In "Web workers" demo - Canvas is NOT running whilst an prime number finder runs in a worker


Which is why it says right there - "might be a slight delay before it starts working"?

BS-Harou Monday, June 14, 2010 11:48:12 AM

Originally posted by Slamdex:

Which is why it says right there - "might be a slight delay before it starts working"?



it doesn't work even after delay p

MaxFragg Monday, June 14, 2010 11:50:22 AM

geolocation works fine here (Ubuntu Linux x68)

BS-Harou Monday, June 14, 2010 11:51:28 AM

btw am I the only one with new font for "input" element? (not CJK)

Vectronic Monday, June 14, 2010 11:52:31 AM

These two preferences have periods on the end...
User Prefs|Maximum Number Of Web Workers Per Session.
User Prefs|Maximum Number Of Web Workers Per Window.

Like OMG I know right? Showstopper!...lol...

ВикторWebSinner Monday, June 14, 2010 11:53:20 AM

Finished instal 3409, this error?

cyberdude mminicyberdude Monday, June 14, 2010 11:54:36 AM

for me all demos are working.......and offline web apps is great feature....when working in offline mode and refreshing this page it loads the entire page normally.....
win 7 32 bit

JosemiJosemi16 Monday, June 14, 2010 11:56:29 AM

Ohhh Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!! Taringa.Net working after several builds!!no


But Word Web App continues getting freeze on 95%... sad

Bill PBill_P Monday, June 14, 2010 11:57:21 AM

html5 on Linux (64bit) seems to use 2x's the cpu then Flash playing YouTube videos

is this the norm?

EnricoEnrico89 Monday, June 14, 2010 11:58:54 AM

All the demo work for me.
But i still have these problems: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9KeMjFcOAs

When scrolling down the page, this happens: http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1602/scrolldown.jpg

lubuntu 10.04 32 bit

nimu_channimuchan Monday, June 14, 2010 12:00:28 PM

Thanks smile

DSK-273213, or when did you?

experttease Monday, June 14, 2010 12:02:00 PM

@BS-Harou confirmed, canvas NOT running.
XP SP3

Шуйский Николай [krigstask, Ŝtérkrìg]Sterkrig Monday, June 14, 2010 12:03:23 PM

No news about fonts on Linux yet… Rolling back to 6346.

arghwashier Monday, June 14, 2010 12:05:00 PM

lol geolocation puts me in the dutch parliament building

Andrew G.consalt Monday, June 14, 2010 12:06:11 PM

WOW!!! You are the Best!!!!!!!

joshas Monday, June 14, 2010 12:06:28 PM

From html5test.com :
6355 - 129 and 4 bonus points
6363 - 159 and 7 bonus points
out of a total of 300 points

Looking good.

Lucalucaviozzi Monday, June 14, 2010 12:07:21 PM

can't clic on the pop-up blocked message.
Bug appeared in the last snapshot.

Xp sp3

Jakalynxlynxlynx Monday, June 14, 2010 12:12:14 PM

the webm demo/youtube also don't work here (custom 32-bit linux).

JosemiJosemi16 Monday, June 14, 2010 12:14:19 PM

Originally posted by lynxlynxlynx:

the webm demo/youtube also don't work here (custom linux).



Cant confirm, Have you enabled youtube.com/html5?

Ruarí Ødegaardruario Monday, June 14, 2010 12:15:59 PM

Originally posted by Sterkrig:

No news about fonts on Linux yet… Rolling back to 6346.

Hey, Sterkrig you don't need to mention this every single snapshot. I noticed you complained about others repeating issues but you are starting to do it yourself. p

Just look out in future change logs for further font work and if nothing is mentioned you should not expect a change (yet).

EDIT: We know that we have a couple more things that need adjusting to improve the situation for a minority of users.

haruto8861 Monday, June 14, 2010 12:16:18 PM

DSK-279742 (Incorrect font used for UTF8 page without lang specified) returns.
It is a pardon that I am made to have already written the bug report of this problem.

Ruarí Ødegaardruario Monday, June 14, 2010 12:17:07 PM

Originally posted by arghwashier:

lol geolocation puts me in the dutch parliament building

Geoloation work on Linux is not finished. It is only the start of the work. it is finished for the other two platforms (Mac and Windows). More updates on this will be coming your way soon.

Volkodavwolf4914 Monday, June 14, 2010 12:17:11 PM

Same as Bill P mentioned here on Ubuntu x86_64- CPU usage too high

techlawsam Monday, June 14, 2010 12:18:49 PM

ha Bing included default in opera and has a speed dial search excellent!

Bhikkhu PesalaPesala Monday, June 14, 2010 12:19:44 PM

Originally posted by Rijk:

not having a top border on the window with the default window buttons was definitely a bug (and ugly and clearly broken)

True enough in a window, perhaps, but when maximised the window has no border anyway.

Fixing the bug should have restored the "Chrome drag area" not broken the "Show only when needed" setting.

blangbl4nG Monday, June 14, 2010 12:20:05 PM

*right click, open in background tab still doesn't work the right way
*still have bug DSK-297676 sad (get duplicate characters with fn+option+number)

Giuseppe Bilottagbilotta Monday, June 14, 2010 12:20:18 PM

Geolocation not working for me either. Accepted the terms, enabled, changed the settings from -1 to 2 ... always puts me somewhere in New York, almost on the other side of the Earth wrt of where I am 8-D

Giuseppe Bilottagbilotta Monday, June 14, 2010 12:20:40 PM

Forgot to specify: Linux x86_64, running on Debian unstable

Ruarí Ødegaardruario Monday, June 14, 2010 12:21:12 PM

Originally posted by gbilotta:

Geolocation not working for me either. Accepted the terms, enabled, changed the settings from -1 to 2 ... always puts me somewhere in New York, almost on the other side of the Earth wrt of where I am 8-D

Originally posted by gbilotta:

Forgot to specify: Linux x86_64, running on Debian unstable

Then it is expected that it doesn't work entirely correctly yet.

I have updated the main blog post to clarify this.

Jacek JędrzejewskieXtremo Monday, June 14, 2010 12:28:47 PM

DSK-301554, my widget "RMF RDS" http://widgets.opera.com/widget/7354/ does not work on 10.60, because you have broken something

Шуйский Николай [krigstask, Ŝtérkrìg]Sterkrig Monday, June 14, 2010 12:29:24 PM

Hey, Sterkrig you don't need to mention this every single snapshot. I noticed you complained about others repeating issues but you are starting to do it yourself.


Well, I've got nothing against small comments about kinda major issues not mentioned in changelog or known issues d-:E
Personally I always search comments for some keywords like "fonts" or something before anything else, if I have my own petty pending bug (-%E

Just look out in future change logs for further font work and if nothing is mentioned you should not expect a change.


It'd be better if we heard anything about our fonts. Simple "Yep, seen the bug, WIP" would do. "Blurry fonts on some Linux distros" in Known Issues is all I want, really.

Bill PBill_P Monday, June 14, 2010 12:34:33 PM

bookmarks process in 64bit Linux seems to be performing much better, as in not hanging the system for up to 30 sec or more when deleting or opening a bookmark's properties. But still not as quick as earlier versions, as there's still a lag (<2 sec) though not a system hang cause of cpu spike

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