Opera Desktop Team

The End of an Architecture

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We have some sad news for the 0.1% of our users who are still on the PowerPC architecture.

Starting with the Next version of Opera, as of the next snapshot release (due sometime later today), we are discontinuing the PowerPC architecture on Mac and Linux. Opera 10.6x series will be the last releases with support for this architecture. This is unfortunate, but with third party vendor support dwindling away, we can no longer keep developing Opera for this architecture.

After ending support for PowerPC, we will be able to focus more on our high quality browser to make sure that it meets the need of the modern web browser user on the popular architectures.

Bug fixing Wednesday on a unified build numberDialogs and text input

Comments

Tamil Monday, August 30, 2010 3:57:41 PM

rip

Zimak Monday, August 30, 2010 4:00:37 PM

cry

Diamond00744 Monday, August 30, 2010 4:03:03 PM

confused I don't know about that.bigsmile

Danieledarklink88 Monday, August 30, 2010 4:06:06 PM

I think you made the right choice

ouzowtfouzoWTF Monday, August 30, 2010 4:06:12 PM

bye bye PowerPC, hello better quality on the other platforms.

ChrisCjcr Monday, August 30, 2010 4:08:32 PM

R.I.P.

Waiting for new snapshot....
bigsmile

Ognian Karamfiloffnu4a Monday, August 30, 2010 4:10:35 PM

Yes! yes
Now waiting to see the end of Win98 and Win2k support.

marbross Monday, August 30, 2010 4:13:03 PM

Good move smile I agree with you.

MeKsevio Monday, August 30, 2010 4:14:26 PM

So which version do you recommend for someone still using PowerPC (old powerbook)? I'd like to use the latest, but it seems to have some nasty random crashes.

oke Monday, August 30, 2010 4:15:23 PM

Good choice. Developers must prioritize to be able to compete effectively in the market. There has not been significant other developments for Power PC for a long time and it is now a marginalized product.

dirkthetomster Monday, August 30, 2010 4:17:10 PM

rip ... keep on moving ...

Zimak Monday, August 30, 2010 4:17:17 PM

Originally posted by Ksevio:

So which version do you recommend for someone still using PowerPC


9.27 the best!

mopi1978 Monday, August 30, 2010 4:19:13 PM

At long last welcome to 2010 wait

rudl Monday, August 30, 2010 4:19:18 PM

I hope that it will increase quality on x64 + Linux
Opera 10.5/6/7 is still very crashy and slow compared to windows

BottleField Monday, August 30, 2010 4:22:18 PM

Originally posted by nu4a:

Now waiting to see the end of Win98 and Win2k support.



Since version 10.5, Opera work quite bad in Win2k. I wrote some bug reports, but they wasn't confirmed (but they are!).

BottleField Monday, August 30, 2010 4:23:42 PM

Originally posted by Zimak:

9.27 the best!


Absolutelly agree!

Zimak Monday, August 30, 2010 4:29:59 PM

Originally posted by BottleField:

Absolutelly agree!


:)

Dmitriy Kvasnikovfarmacevtua Monday, August 30, 2010 4:30:22 PM

Originally posted by ouzoWTF:

bye bye PowerPC, hello better quality on the other platforms.


Agree with you
Hope that quality will be better and better in future of Opera browser
Now PowerPC is a history!

Hugo Del Castillohcastill Monday, August 30, 2010 4:30:42 PM

sounds like we are getting HW Acceleration.....

Bucic Monday, August 30, 2010 4:35:38 PM

Originally posted by nu4a:

Yes! :yes:
Now waiting to see the end of Win98 and Win2k support.


thumbs up!

Morphdreamer Monday, August 30, 2010 4:38:29 PM

After ending support for PowerPC, we will be able to focus more on our high quality browser to make sure that it meets the need of the modern web browser user on the popular architectures.


Sounds like good news for 99.9% of Opera users smile .

Tiago Joao Silvatigas Monday, August 30, 2010 4:38:36 PM

no

Oh well, had to stop using my PowerBook some time...

Meanwhile, how about fixing the 10.4 text lag bug? That has nothing to do with PowerPC. Are you going to discontinue 10.4 as well?

Dustin WilsonKhadgar Monday, August 30, 2010 4:39:29 PM

Well, I knew this day was coming. Maybe now the devs won't be bogged down with actually getting Opera to function properly on Mac PPC and can get some of the big issues on Intel (such as printing) out of the way. \o/

Originally posted by Ksevio:

So which version do you recommend for someone still using PowerPC (old powerbook)? I'd like to use the latest, but it seems to have some nasty random crashes.


I didn't have many problems with Opera 10 on PPC. Used it daily at work, but I'd stay completely away from 10.5+.

Daniel Aleksandersendaniel Monday, August 30, 2010 4:45:36 PM

Originally posted by tigas:

how about fixing the 10.4 text lag bug? That has nothing to do with PowerPC.

Just you wait a few more hours. smile (PowerPC users will have to wait a bit more to get that fix, though.)

ChrisCjcr Monday, August 30, 2010 4:50:44 PM

Originally posted by daniel:

Just you wait a few more hours.


Small or long changelog? smile

JorgeOsoSentado Monday, August 30, 2010 4:52:18 PM

I just hope that support the Power PC architecture is the only thing done and not tell us in the future Linux support also ends

OlliOlli91 Monday, August 30, 2010 4:54:16 PM

Yeah, I knew that this would happen, and I think it's ok. All other bigbrowsers have discontinued the PowerPC-support, so Opera is the last one. Glad I'm running on Intel bigsmile

Tomppeli Monday, August 30, 2010 4:54:32 PM

I'd like to see Linux ARM support when some smartbooks (and tablets) come around (there are already very few of them). But anyway great job you have done already.

endorphinity Monday, August 30, 2010 5:07:57 PM

4 years after Apple's move to Intel architecture seem to be quite enough to stop supporting old architecture, especially considering how their market share has grown during these years in comparison to PPC park.

arekm Monday, August 30, 2010 5:28:00 PM

The next target for dropping is ... Linux wink

firstnight Monday, August 30, 2010 5:28:52 PM

"Good choice. Developers must prioritize to be able to compete effectively in the market. There has not been significant other developments for Power PC for a long time and it is now a marginalized product."

Indeed, all businesses must prioritize to compete effectively. They should stop producing anything for marginalized people because to support a minority is inefficient and produces less profit. Oh, wait.. that's kinda like the way it already is. bigsmile

I am not a PowerPC user, but there will be always be someone hurt by lack of support. Not everyone can apportion resources to replace hardware and software within a reasonable 'timeframe'. Those who can do so or who do not use the deprecated system are often eager to see support for it dropped. The ethical question of eliminating support should always be difficult to answer, so as to cause the least damage possible. How much profit margin one is willing to lose to avoid hurting someone is the test of how great a company is.

lazy codersStartBar Monday, August 30, 2010 5:37:46 PM

I hope Opera can finally make me (Start Bar) work! Maybe prioritizing will allow some of Opera's standard features to work again.

Originally posted by Zimak:

Zimak 30. August 2010, 16:17

Originally posted by Ksevio:

So which version do you recommend for someone still using PowerPC

9.27 the best!

Thanks for the heads up!

Joshua PhelpsJoshuaPhelps Monday, August 30, 2010 5:39:12 PM

Linux will always be supported. ;-)

lazy codersStartBar Monday, August 30, 2010 5:39:35 PM

Originally posted by rudl:

rudl 30. August 2010, 16:19

I hope that it will increase quality on x64 + Linux Opera 10.5/6/7 is still very crashy and slow compared to windows

+1 Seems as if Opera 10.10 is the best Windows version yet. Never crashes, uses RAM efficiently. It just works.

lazy codersStartBar Monday, August 30, 2010 5:40:15 PM

Originally posted by hcastill:

Hugo Del Castillo 30. August 2010, 16:30

sounds like we are getting HW Acceleration.....

+1 Well, everyone else is doing it... I see no reason Opera cannot.

Hokkuthokkut Monday, August 30, 2010 5:40:29 PM

Originally posted by arekm:

The next target for dropping is ... Linux


Bad joke whistle

It's sad for PPC users. I hope in future Opera fix almost all bugs smile

SardorbekpROCKrammer Monday, August 30, 2010 5:51:23 PM

Hm ...I am sorry for PowerPC users!

Andylee Satomichaelpuermayr Monday, August 30, 2010 5:56:51 PM

Originally posted by StartBar:

Originally posted by hcastill:

Hugo Del Castillo 30. August 2010, 16:30

sounds like we are getting HW Acceleration.....

+1 Well, everyone else is doing it... I see no reason Opera cannot.

ah... Opera already has HA, it's just disabled by default...

ksec Monday, August 30, 2010 5:57:33 PM

Great, next would be GPU acceleration, even faster JS ( is that even possible ? ) and finally a UI design rethink.

ChrisCjcr Monday, August 30, 2010 6:05:19 PM

Originally posted by michaelpuermayr:

ah... Opera already has HA, it's just disabled by default...


You are sure? ... one thing is ready to support HA, and other thing is disable by default.... whistle

Start BarStart-Bar Monday, August 30, 2010 6:06:06 PM

Originally posted by michaelpuermayr:

michaelpuermayr 30. August 2010, 17:56

Originally posted by StartBar:

Originally posted by hcastill:

Hugo Del Castillo 30. August 2010, 16:30

sounds like we are getting HW Acceleration.....

+1 Well, everyone else is doing it... I see no reason Opera cannot.

ah... Opera already has HA, it's just disabled by default...

Originally posted by ksec:

ksec 30. August 2010, 17:57

Great, next would be GPU acceleration, even faster JS ( is that even possible ? ) and finally a UI design rethink.

Huh? Whats the difference in Hardware Acceleration and GPU Acceleration? GPU = hardware right? Will my old power book support both? edit: Does the Windows version of Opera support both Hardware Acceleration and GPU Acceleration?

Andylee Satomichaelpuermayr Monday, August 30, 2010 6:25:03 PM

Originally posted by Start-Bar:

Will my old power book support both?


âaah... what about dropping support for Power books did you miss? :-D

Xombiemubaidr Monday, August 30, 2010 6:25:46 PM

Opera 11 Coming up.... whistle

Start BarStart-Bar Monday, August 30, 2010 6:34:09 PM

Originally posted by michaelpuermayr:

michaelpuermayr 30. August 2010, 18:25

Originally posted by Start-Bar:

Will my old power book support both?

âaah... what about dropping support for Power books did you miss? :-D

Am I mistakingly interpreting your reply? Are you meaning to be stating that Opera's end to PowerPC architecture on Mac and Linux means that my Power book will not utilize Hardware Acceleration or GPU Acceleration? I dont get it...

Originally posted by mubaidr:

Muhammad Ubaid raza 30. August 2010, 18:25

Opera 11 Coming up.... :whistle:

Ya think Opera 11 will offer full Hardware Acceleration (GPU?)... think we'll get a snapshot with that feature today?

Blaz(ž) Pristavitalianjob44 Monday, August 30, 2010 6:37:57 PM

Power PC rip

Can't wait for nightly build, that's intense.cool

Hector Macias Ayalahectormacias Monday, August 30, 2010 6:46:34 PM

Sad but true!! (Metallica)

Xombiemubaidr Monday, August 30, 2010 6:48:35 PM

nervous There was a blog post (with new snapshot,mostly mac fixes) b9036 but setup was not working...scared They removed Blog post... rolleyes

Start BarStart-Bar Monday, August 30, 2010 6:49:25 PM

Originally posted by italianjob44:

Power PC :rip:

Can't wait for nightly build, that's intense.:cool:



Oh! Can you provide me the link to Opera's "nightly build" like:
Firefox's ( http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/ )
& Chromium's ( http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp )?

Thanks for your all your help!

Xombiemubaidr Monday, August 30, 2010 6:49:44 PM

Originally posted by Start-Bar:

Ya think Opera 11 will offer full Hardware Acceleration (GPU?)...
think we'll get a snapshot with that feature today?


Nops... Today is just b9036 I think... For mac users Text input fixes!!! up

pedruh Monday, August 30, 2010 6:51:00 PM

You made the right choice wink

I think there isn't going to be a new snapshot today with hardware acceleration... maybe later! bigsmile

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