All right!

Thanks!

Thank you for the good work!

hey it is slower than the last benchmarking made please check thire is some core problem



http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action

Thanks, really great job!
Just one question - are fixes from 10.63 included in latest 10.70 build?

Very cool. Thanks

Thanks!

and before you ask, yes if you have 10.63 RC2, you already have the final.

Ruari, as I said But yeah, of course you are right.

Whats the point releasing 10.63 if there is 10.70 ?

Originally posted by Tygas:

Whats the point releasing 10.63 if there is 10.70 ?

This is a stable version with fixes for those who do not want to use experimental builds.

I think you're wasting your time for another 10.6X builds. You should focus on Opera 10.70 instead, make it more stable and release it soon !

Installation of Opera 10.63 on Windows 7 x64:

* triggers the "unsigned msi" warning
* wants to create icon in the non-existent Quick Launch bar
* demands to create a desktop icon although I deselected the option when installed 10.60 and on every update after it

Needs more work!

Originally posted by ouzoWTF:

Ruari, as I said

Yeah, I wondered when you would show up to point this out!

Originally posted by hyypia:

I think you're wasting your time for another 10.6X builds. You should focus on Opera 10.70 instead, make it more stable and release it soon !

We're not using that much time on 10.63. It is mostly a matter of patching safe and stable fixes from 10.70, which is our development branch. Security is always the highest priority for us, and users of stable Opera versions such as 10.6 can always expect this kind of service from us.

Originally posted by Tygas:

Whats the point releasing 10.63 if there is 10.70 ?

Originally posted by hyypia:

I think you're wasting your time for another 10.6X builds. You should focus on Opera 10.70 instead, make it more stable and release it soon !

You will notice from the changelogs that these builds include 5 security fixes. Hence we needed to get it out ASAP to keep our users secure. We couldn't just release a 10.70 as final because 10.70 contains a lot of other things as well (some of which currently cause regressions). Hence getting 10.70 stable takes longer, which would have delayed how fast we could get out a secure version. So yes, this build was needed.

Originally posted by Morphdreamer:

Just one question - are fixes from 10.63 included in latest 10.70 build?

Not quite, but almost. However before 10.70 (or some future release with a different number) goes final it will contain all of the fixes from 10.63.

Originally posted by getnikkoo:

hey it is slower than the last benchmarking made

Could you be a bit clearer. Are you comparing with the previous 10.70 build snapshot, which is faster because it has a newer Core rendering engine (hence that is expected) or are you saying that 10.63 is slower than 10.62?

Thanks.

Mod edit: Vague comment removed. Please be specific, and list the exact details of any problems you may be referring to.

From the changelog:

> Release date: Octobeer 12, 2010

I can see why this build is needed :-)

I have a question to the opera team. How long are you going to support the 10.6X branch after you release the next version? I have a win 98se machine at work with the kernel ex layer and where the 10.6X brach works great but the 10.70 branch doesn't so I would like to know how much longer I can keep using a modern and supported browser on this machine

It's OK i guess, on Linux i wish that some fix the fixed wallpapers to work on sites and also try using custom sidebar from Facebook on blogs Tumblr and Blogger it's not clamped in place when scroll, related issues i think.

Originally posted by toman:

We're not using that much time on 10.63. It is mostly a matter of patching safe and stable fixes from 10.70, which is our development branch. Security is always the highest priority for us, and users of stable Opera versions such as 10.6 can always expect this kind of service from us.

I remind those complainers that there are users who need 10.63 because 10.7x -series doesn't support their system (PPC Mac users) Support has ended in 10.7x but 10.63 is best we can get and we are grateful for fixes...

Works great so far =D

For me, 10.63 (Linux build 5450) crashes when left unattended for a few hours (like overnight or while at work) after balooning to way above 2GB RAM usage. How do I best report this, can I make Opera generate core files or crash reports or something? I see no such files in my home directory or ~/.opera/ .

Yeah!... Thanks!

This is the first version above 10.00 I've used, due to Unite concerns.

I've followed the advice to disable Opera Unite in /etc/operaprefs_fixed.ini (using "Enable Unite=0" and "Do Not Use Opera Account=1") but there are still some Unite things visible in the browser (Advanced -> Notifications -> "Show notifications for Opera Unite applications" and Advanced -> Security -> "Trusted websites..." -> "Opera Unite Repositories" in the preferences), which makes me distrust the disabling mechanism. Are these just bugs/omissions in this version, or is there still some Unite functionality in 10.63 (and other 10.6x / 10.7x versions) despite my attempts to disable them? I work at a place where security is taken seriously, and I also do my best to secure my home machine, so must I go back to 10.00 to ensure that Unite is not in any way active?

@tomatofan: I'm not sure I'm understanding correctly what you want. Why should the fact that Opera Unite is disabled affect the fact that the Unite Repositories are a trusted data source for Opera, no matter *it is not being used*, for instance?

Could somebody tell me about 10.64 - will it be or not?

@Luis Machuca Bezzaza: I was looking at http://www.opera.com/support/mastering/sysadmin/ where it says "To disable Opera Unite and remove all traces of it from the user interface...". As not all traces are removed from the user interface, since I can find at least two references to Unite, I worry that there is a bug in 10.63 and that Unite is in fact not disabled at all.

Originally posted by tomatofan:

I work at a place where security is taken seriously, and I also do my best to secure my home machine, so must I go back to 10.00 to ensure that Unite is not in any way active?

Do I understand that right? You work at a place where security is taken seriously and instead of using an up-to-date version with several security fixes you use an old version of Opera where those security fixes do not exist?

@ouzowtf: No, sorry, I want to use Opera but right now I can't due to security holes in older versions and security concerns regarding Unite in newer versions (the bit about going back to 10.00 was just to make my point that I want a version without Unite). Having used Firefox lately I really miss Opera's user interface and would very much like to go back to Opera.

Anyways, this seems to be drifting away from what I imagine Opera wants to be discussed in the comments section to their release announcement. If someone wants to continue discussing I'd be glad to move to the forums.

Originally posted by farmacevtua:

Could somebody tell me about 10.64 - will it be or not?

There will be one if there is an security issue in the 10.60 branch before "next" is released I think.

The rc2 worked very well and the official version works very well.
Thank you very much opera desktop team for your hard work and quality product.

This wont let me update from my 10.70 build 9067 on XP, it says installer was interrupted and to try again, but the same thing happens again

Originally posted by npo4:

This wont let me update from my 10.70 build 9067 on XP, it says installer was interrupted and to try again, but the same thing happens again

You shouldn't update the 10.70 snapshot but you're stable 10.62 version

Originally posted by ytsmabeer:

You shouldn't update the 10.70 snapshot but you're stable 10.62 version

Oh, but I updated from the rc2 to the 10.70 snapshot, so I'd have to downgrade somehow

Originally posted by npo4:

Originally posted by ytsmabeer:

You shouldn't update the 10.70 snapshot but you're stable 10.62 version

Oh, but I updated from the rc2 to the 10.70 snapshot, so I'd have to downgrade somehow

Uninstall 10.70 then install 10.63 again. (rc2 and final are the same)

Originally posted by npo4:

Oh, but I updated from the rc2 to the 10.70 snapshot, so I'd have to downgrade somehow

10.7 and 10.6 are not sequential builds, but different BRANCHES of development. You cannot upgrade and downgrade between them.

will have to uninstall .7 and reinstall .6 - WITHOUT uninstalling settings and files, or back up settings and files and then do full uninstall followed by install of the other branch.

OR, just install a fresh 10.6 to a totally new directory, and migrate your old files and settings to it.

Have you tried manually downloading the normal installer from www.opera.com ? Sometimes the auto upgrade system does not work.

tomatofan: The sysadmin guide quite clearly spells out what to do, and you can check it with a simple network test. At this point, completely disabling Unite should work exactly as intended. There may still be a checkbox or two buried under the interface, but those option fields will be nonfunctional. (Changing their settings will not activate Unite) As an additional precaution, you can add a step to the post-setup script: remove the entire Unite Apps folder.

But you're right that this isn't the place to discuss such things. PM me, or send a link if you have already opened a forum topic.

Originally posted by Ruari Ødegaard:

...and before you ask, yes if you have 10.63 RC2, you already have the final.

You're getting good at this.
Great work everyone!

I'm having an issue in 10.63, but it was already present in 10.62, from a few days ago, so I'm not sure if it's a bug or my system (10.70 works fine though). It's like this: there are addresses in the address bar for my tabs, but absolutely zero is drawn in the window, ever. The only thing which renders at all is Speed Dial. I've no idea what has happened...

I notice the chopped/repeated text line on scroll-wheel again today for the first time since I installed this build.

You guys really need to do something about that.

experttease: Is this actually on Windows? Because if you're on Linux one of your libraries just died. If this is on Windows, try getting the classic installer from the FTP, and make a clean install. (Different folder, single profile for all users) You could also try repair-installing over your current installation.

ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/

Do the pic links at the following site work for anyone?

http://www.nissanusa.com/sav/?tool=home.sav.link

I'm not having any luck with them and I've no time to dig through the source just to find out if it's a known issue.

btw, great job on the rendering improvements guys. Looks great. Things are scaling much better now.

@Innbound I can see the initial pics in 10.70.9067 but I get nothing in the popup when I click on one.

Well I definitely have mixed feelings about this one; enough to report back about it:

1) It seems definitely faster.
2) Rendering in general seems slightly better, not sure how.

3) Severe UI corruption when opening Speed Dial. (?!)
4) Grossly underreports allocated memory requests.
\This requires some qualification. Opera was pulling about
\"175MB", which seemed suspiciously low. Then I noticed that
\available RAM had plummetted from 1400MB to 120MB, and my
\total commit charge had increased by nearly 2GB. When I
\closed Opera, I regained all of the phantom RAM.
5) WHEN I closed Opera, Link hung; but it responded to "Exit"

Machine is, as always WinXP SP3, Atom N280, 2GB mem, ESET ESS
4, this installation was clean as of 10.60, have upgraded
with every point revision, but not any testing builds.