The new styling can be seen in opera:about, opera:config, and so on.

The search suggestions on error pages should be helpful when there is a typo somewhere, but please read the known issues. It will only work in English and Russian installation, and will be in Russian in this snapshot.

This is just temporary.

it is not possible to reload the entries in the speeddial

Twice in a week!

I get a C++ runtime error on exit if I've accessed the settings at anytime during the session. Is this known?

I like the glowing red writing on mouse hover.

Nice, thanks! Twice is fantastic.

yey

The new styling is looking good.
The speed dial animation is also sweet. This is way more elegant than the previous solution.

so sweet, tnx

very nice styling

Thank you for the new snapshot. It would be nice if there was a way to disable the "+"-button within the speed dial without settint "speed dial state" to "2". I'd like to be able to remove and move speed dial entries but not to add any new pages to my speed dial. Please add this feature

Nice animations on speed dial, and search suggestions on faulty URLs are also nice! Happy weekend to all!

It sure took a long time for these visual tips to be added, but it looks great! Now if only you would do the same for dragging tabs out of the tab bar.

!!!!!!!!!!

CSS3 Multi-column support! Absolutely necessary for large screens and sites like mine that have a dynamic/liquid layout.

I've updated my site so that Opera 11.1 will now render content in multiple columns when CSS3 is enabled on my site...

http://www.jabcreations.com/

Originally posted by haavard:

The new styling can be seen in opera:about, opera:config, and so on.

And now (fixed background style) when will be fixed the smooth scroll slowdown issue?

The new animations are very nice (even if I remember those from Chrome - but hey, where do they have their Speed Dial from?).

The look of the about and page (etc.) was better before this snapshot, but it's my personal opinion. The Speed Dial config-button looks ugly - but I think this is not the final draft of the button, so who cares?!

Very nice looking new internal pages! Good job so far.

But scrolling on that pages is kinda IE-like! Anything but smooth! Should finally be fixed in next versions/final version.

Speeddial animations are just great, but what about sharpness of site-thumbnails? In 11.01 final build 1190 it's just fine and sharp.

I like the new improvements a lot, but I think that the Speed Dials should move farther. For example: I grab my first Speed Dial to the right to switch positions with the second one. The second Speed Dial should then move completely to the left so that there is a clear visual gap where the second Speed Dial has been and I can now place my Speed Dial #1 there.

Basically, it should behave like the iPhone/iPod touch/iPad when replacing Apps on the homescreen.

Originally posted by operabaker:

I get a C++ runtime error on exit if I've accessed the settings at anytime during the session. Is this known?

Can not confirm here.

Originally posted by lordvj:

it is not possible to reload the entries in the speeddial

Works fine here by pressing F5 or right click on one of them and click on reload.

Small reminder: unchecking "Enable UI Animations" doesn't work for speed dial animation.

how to trigger error page ? can anyone give example ?

// New styling for internal pages is classy

Originally posted by c69:

Haavard, how to trigger error page ? can you give example ?

Try an invalid url.... like http://someerrorsite.org/

Thank you!!

I'm try it now!!

Now to be able to get rid of the "+ box" in speedial

super cool THANKS OPERA TEAM

Originally posted by fherrerav:

Try an invalid url.... like http://someerrorsite.org/

Athough if you use OpenDNS (and why not??) You won't see them.

However if you use http://localhost:9999

You will.

Very nice animations! I think you should remove the search field from the speed dial since it's redundant with the address bar 20 pixels above.

The new styles are FANTASTIC!

The speed dial animation is nice, but to me it's unintuitive that when dropping a speed dial it still gets swapped. The animation seems to suggest that the dragged item will be placed after the hovered item...

Mod edit: Off-topic comment removed.

Animations? Where?

Edit: OK, I see.

Originally posted by booz0r:

Now to be able to get rid of the "+ box" in speedial

How? Right clicking here gets no response.

At about comment 225 (page 5) on the last build, I just noted the images on my 5x5 were off the screen in both directions and that the configure options had no effect (in addition to requiring the unwanted blue background). Well, a funny thing happened right after with that build. Using Cntl-mouse scroller, I rezoomed the Speed Dial to make the 5x5 viewable. Then tried one entry, but it was super large. So I went to Page > Zoom and though it showed 100% currently starred, I clicked on it again and the page returned to normal. Then I went back to Speed Dial and it all showed as I had zoomed it. Closed/reopened Opera and still right. And still that way with this new build (2020). The only thing is that now there's more blank space than needed around the outside of the 5x5, while the configure settings, e.g., stretch, have no effect.

Now that is Barracuda! Great work Opera Team

Originally posted by highstream:

Originally posted by booz0r:

Now to be able to get rid of the "+ box" in speedial

How? Right clicking here gets no response.

Exactly, I wish there was a way.

Ah btw: Video controls for embedded youtube videos work on Mac!!

As I have an older computer I do find that certain web sites while downloading are hogging CPU usage at 100% to the point that the browser freezes completely, forcing me to re-boot the computer.
One of these sites is this very desktop team one, and the only way I can post this comment is using Firefox, which does not create these problems.
So unless this can be corrected in future snapshots, I'm unable to use Opera, which is very unfortunate for now, as previously I was very satisfied with this browser.

Originally posted by highstream:

On first glance, animation strikes me more useful for marketing than functioning.

Not at all. It's a clear visual indication that something is happening. Much more useful than the way it used to be (no visual clues that you could do something).

Speed dial animations look really great! And the search onerror page is also nice idea! But I don't like the new design of internal pages because it doesn't use all available space.

Nice build, I like the new internal pages. Why does pressing the Tab key in opera:config first jump to "show all" instead of the quick find search field though? Minor thing, but please make the search field activate first.

Trolling removed by moderator.

Speed dial stacking in next build?

Originally posted by Slamdex:

Originally posted by highstream:

On first glance, animation strikes me more useful for marketing than functioning.

Not at all. It's a clear visual indication that something is happening. Much more useful than the way it used to be (no visual clues that you could do something).

I don't know, I hadn't noticed any visual problem in moving Speed Dial thumbnails. When it comes down to problems with Opera's functioning - bugs, new features needed, etc. - I wasn't aware that there were complaints about the lack of animation. Rather, the thing that seems to have changed with a recent build, or sometime along the way, is that moving a Speed Dial image into another slot exchanges images one for the other, instead of pushing the ones in front forward one slot. I much prefer the latter. Making small changes now is like working with a Rubrik's cube.

Mod edit: If you want to report problems, do so without trolling.


I have NO idea what trolling is. I complemented you and just stated a opinion on what was important. I knocked MYSELF saying that I shouldn't expect in this build my problem was fixed when it isn't mentioned and I was just saying it still existed. I see MUCH worse than that here all the time. Also you tell people to be specific all the time Explain what trolling is.

I have NO idea what your problem is or was. Maybe your English isn't up to par and it is your problem because of a misunderstanding.

Really liked the baracuda builds.

Discoveribility is a must for Opera as most of the features go unnoticed.

Liked how the recycle bin animates.

The speed dial animations are nice. It would have been better if we are allowed to mention the number of rows / columns and an option to fix it. Also found the movement of speed dials a bit un-intuitive. if i have 1,2,3 and if i want the order to be 3,1,2 ... i drag 3 to the left of 1 and release it. It makes the order as 321 instead of 312. The swap gets irritating in the long run.

Coming to speed, i dont know if there have been any improvements, but it feels real fast and smooth

And yea google sites look the way they should finally!

Menu bug on play-asia.com. In previous builds too.

http://i.imgur.com/MK6z1.png

Originally posted by highstream:

I must be missing something, since when I needed to move things it was pretty obvious what was happening.

That's because you know about it. Now it's much easier for everyone to see that something is actually happening.

The thing that seems to have changed with a recent build, or sometime along the way, is that moving an image (thumbnail?) into another slot exchanges image placement one for the other, rather than pushing the ones in front of it forward one slot.

That's the way it worked in older versions too, unless you are using a different browser.

Originally posted by Slamdex:

Not at all. It's a clear visual indication that something is happening. Much more useful than the way it used to be (no visual clues that you could do something).

Animations and visual clues are different things. The "tab closing" animation is a nice to have, but the "disappeared" tab already indicates the tab is closed. And the "tab closing" animation is a good example, because at least some weeks/months back the animation was so bad I had to disable them because I was getting mad by the constant moving and resizing of the tabs while the animation was running. It just draw my attention to the tab bar, instead of what I was doing. Animations also must not slow down the workflow, and some animations just do. Don't have any in Opera in my mind right now, but I have seen (mostly on phones) so much sliding animations et cetera that you're just waiting a sec. before the animation is finished and you can finally click on something. I think Opera at least has a good balance between shinny animations and usability. For example when moving a tab the sliding of the tabs to there knew position doesn't distract you and doesn't slow down the time it takes to move the positions. But yes, for me at least, the animations aren't necessary and thus I have to agree with highstream.

We are still working hard, juggling with implementing, code-reviewing, testing, and rebasing various tasks.

I think you have found the right balance, one known issue fixed against two new known issues getting added to the already long list of known issues. And you've added two knew features/changes of which IMHO only one is interesting (the speed dial animations, which I don't use). I'm not saying the internal pages don't have to be changed, but with the long list of known issues it surely isn't the highest priority to get some new styling of the internal pages.

I am noticing a cpu spike every time i scroll.. almost at 100% for more than a couple of seconds

My speeddial comments:

1. The speedial moving out of the way should move further.

2. If you drag a speed dial to a different monitor or out of the Opera window, then it no longer gets the animations when moved back over the Opera window.

3. If a specific number of columns is set by a user, surely the size of the speedials should automatically resize themselves to accomodate that amount of columsn in whatever size window the user has Opera at that moment. However many columsn the user has set should always be visible no matter what the size of the actual speedial thumbnail.

4. Allow users to remove the huge "+" button

5. If you have Opera set as Window and Opera doesn't have focus, then make the first click into the window not actiavte the speeddial. Very annoying if you you want to do is give Opera focus but you get whisked off to a speeddial site.

6. Like the new internal pages.

7. Please help get XMarks extension!!!!!! - (This will bring lots of new people to Opera!!!)

8. An option to allow custom speed dial icons or thumbnails would be nice.

9. A checkbox to force Opera to automatically fit ALL speeddials into the current Opera window. Just gives users an extra choice.

10. "Configure Speeddial" button seems to disapear.

11. I have a very large widescreen monitor and Opera is maximised on it. When speeddial columns are set to automatic it only shows 3 across, it looks like at least 4 could fit.



Anyway, good progress is being made, just need further tweaks and improvements. I think point number 3, above is most annoying and import to be fixed.

- I too notice a CPU spike when scrolling

- Also, what dicoverability features are there?, I haven't "discovered" any yet I don't think?

Thanks

Neil

Originally posted by Robert90:

Animations and visual clues are different things.

Animations are one type of visual clue.

Originally posted by Robert90:

I'm not saying the internal pages don't have to be changed, but with the long list of known issues it surely isn't the highest priority to get some new styling of the internal pages.

Why not? You can fix bugs and streamline and tweak things to improve them at the same time. It would be silly to never touch things to give them a facelift or improve them. Complaining about someone taking the time to give old things a facelift is just silly.

Also, they were already adding the search suggestions, so it's not like they aren't doing anything else.

And finally, styling/design is typically done by designers. Did you expect them to teach the designers who made the new internal pages to program in order to be able to fix bugs?

Quick response:

• New animations are nice and helpful
• New styling is pretty, but I still dislike this huge and red "O" (it's too distracting)
• New styling looks inappropriate for Info panel (BTW, Info panel layout still broken: CORE-34789)
• After using for a week, I realized that add new speed dial button is pretty disturbing. I don't add new items so often, that I need such a big button for this action. I would propose to make this button the same size as Configure Speed Dial is, and would add couple new ways to add new SD item: double click on empty space, new context menu item.

I really like that Opera again started bringing some attention to details.
Keep up a good work!

Originally posted by Slamdex:

The thing that seems to have changed with a recent build, or sometime along the way, is that moving an image (thumbnail?) into another slot exchanges image placement one for the other, rather than pushing the ones in front of it forward one slot.

That's the way it worked in older versions too, unless you are using a different browser.

Well, I am getting old, but I do think you're wrong on this one. Moving a thumbnail in Speed Dial to a new slot without changing the rest of the order was not a multi-step puzzle until just recently.